Socialism Creates Poverty

[gipper]

Isn't it strange how countries that don't observe capitalism don't seem to have much in the way of technology?

which countries are those?

The countries you should seek citizenship.

 

[Rotagilla]

Isn't it strange how countries that don't observe capitalism don't seem to have much in the way of technology?

Is China a "capitalist" country now? They only have one of the best computer hacking groups in the world. What technology they couldn't develop they stole from us. But those Chinese don't have much technology eh?

LMAO..yeah..china has always been known for their advanced technology...

China uses a mix of the worst practices of capitalism mixed with the worst sacrifices of socialism to produce a system where there are very clear differences in how people are treated based on where they live and what they do. The rich live in relative political and economic freedom while labor is brutally controlled by government and industry.

Oh..ok...you don't want to talk about chinese "technology" any more. Now you're off on some other tangents.
I'm not chasing you around as you randomly change the subject rather than support your premises.
Have fun!

WTF are you going on about? Who do you think you are replying to?

you.
See..you replied to a comment I made..then I replied to your comment...Complicated, I know...try your best, though!

 

[occupied]

Is China a "capitalist" country now? They only have one of the best computer hacking groups in the world. What technology they couldn't develop they stole from us. But those Chinese don't have much technology eh?

LMAO..yeah..china has always been known for their advanced technology...

China uses a mix of the worst practices of capitalism mixed with the worst sacrifices of socialism to produce a system where there are very clear differences in how people are treated based on where they live and what they do. The rich live in relative political and economic freedom while labor is brutally controlled by government and industry.

Oh..ok...you don't want to talk about chinese "technology" any more. Now you're off on some other tangents.
I'm not chasing you around as you randomly change the subject rather than support your premises.
Have fun!

WTF are you going on about? Who do you think you are replying to?

you.
See..you replied to a comment I made..then I replied to your comment...Complicated, I know...try your best, though!

Ok I get it, just being a dick, carry on.

 

[Discombobulated]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Socialism creates poverty, another vague generic premise. One could just as easily say the same about capitalism; a free market society creates poverty too. It becomes a question of how much poverty a society can tolerate and ignore......since all economic systems create poverty.

 

[Rotagilla]

LMAO..yeah..china has always been known for their advanced technology...

China uses a mix of the worst practices of capitalism mixed with the worst sacrifices of socialism to produce a system where there are very clear differences in how people are treated based on where they live and what they do. The rich live in relative political and economic freedom while labor is brutally controlled by government and industry.

Oh..ok...you don't want to talk about chinese "technology" any more. Now you're off on some other tangents.
I'm not chasing you around as you randomly change the subject rather than support your premises.
Have fun!

WTF are you going on about? Who do you think you are replying to?

you.
See..you replied to a comment I made..then I replied to your comment...Complicated, I know...try your best, though!

Ok I get it, just being a dick, carry on.

That's nice, scooter...
Despite your ad homs and evasions, I stand by what I said.
China has never been known for their "technology" .

 

[occupied]

China uses a mix of the worst practices of capitalism mixed with the worst sacrifices of socialism to produce a system where there are very clear differences in how people are treated based on where they live and what they do. The rich live in relative political and economic freedom while labor is brutally controlled by government and industry.

Oh..ok...you don't want to talk about chinese "technology" any more. Now you're off on some other tangents.
I'm not chasing you around as you randomly change the subject rather than support your premises.
Have fun!

WTF are you going on about? Who do you think you are replying to?

you.
See..you replied to a comment I made..then I replied to your comment...Complicated, I know...try your best, though!

Ok I get it, just being a dick, carry on.

That's nice, scooter...
Despite your ad homs and evasions, I stand by what I said.
China has never been known for their "technology" .

What does it matter? China has a wealth of labor and the means to exploit it, they are not so pressed to increase productivity through automation as the rest of the world and they quickly adopt and master what tech they need.

 

[Rotagilla]

What does it matter?.........

Translation;

"You were right but I just can't bring myself to admit it so maybe if I pretend to be above it all, I can retreat and no one will notice"

Wouldn't it have been easier to just say, "I see your point" 5 or 6 posts ago?

 

[occupied]

What does it matter?.........

Translation;

"You were right but I just can't bring myself to admit it so maybe if I pretend to be above it all, I can retreat and no one will notice"

Wouldn't it have been easier to just say, "I see your point" 5 or 6 posts ago?

OK nothing of substance just another asshole going on ignore, goodbye.

 

[Rotagilla]

What does it matter?.........

Translation;

"You were right but I just can't bring myself to admit it so maybe if I pretend to be above it all, I can retreat and no one will notice"

Wouldn't it have been easier to just say, "I see your point" 5 or 6 posts ago?

OK nothing of substance just another asshole going on ignore, goodbye.

See ya!

 

[The Rabbi]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Socialism creates poverty, another vague generic premise. One could just as easily say the same about capitalism; a free market society creates poverty too. It becomes a question of how much poverty a society can tolerate and ignore......since all economic systems create poverty.

One could say that. If he were a complete numbskull totally ignorant of the facts. As you appear to be.

 

[The Rabbi]

Bullshit
Areas where TVA did not go like GA have outperformed areas where TVA did go. Socialism is a failure Period.

Fail, you think you can just say shit like that and I will just buy it? There is nothing to back up such a claim, besides, the rural electrification program went everywhere and laid down infrastructure where capitalists would have taken 20 more years to reach.

Compare growth rates for GA and TN. GA's is much higher.
QED.
You can apologize now for wasting everyone's time with your ignorance.

Georgia got a big healthy dose of socialism too in the form of hydroelectric dams, road and rail improvements, water treatment etc. Not sure what you are going on about. Maybe you should read up on what the south used to be before FDR before you go further in the hole.

Bullshit.
I've lived here over 30 years, asshole. You dont know what you are talking about. Why dont you tell us GA is doing so well because of Ft Benning?

I am talking about what it was around 1920 and what it became by 1960 as a direct result of federal investment in infrastructure. It's a very clear case where socialism lifted a poverty stricken, flood plagued agrarian society with no cash flow into a place where people could live and consume as if they actually lived in the 20th century. You live surrounded by federally built infrastructure and still think the government never did anything good for people.

Every area of the country increased living standards between 1920 and 1960, dumbshit. But in point of fact areas of the South that went without TVA experienced faster growth than those with. A point you simply cannot comprehend.

 

[Discombobulated]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Socialism creates poverty, another vague generic premise. One could just as easily say the same about capitalism; a free market society creates poverty too. It becomes a question of how much poverty a society can tolerate and ignore......since all economic systems create poverty.

One could say that. If he were a complete numbskull totally ignorant of the facts. As you appear to be.

Good come back, who could possibly argue with that. So then capitalism doesn't produce poverty....is that part of your premise?

 

[Discombobulated]

free markets are self correcting and spontaneously make us aware of where to apply our efforts.

centralized planning and control are useless in free markets.

No, they're useful in making some people rich and others powerful politically. For the average guy, not so much.

Sounds like a good description of our free market society.

 

[Theowl32]

It certainly expands poverty. Funny, how as poverty expands, so does the democrat voting base.

Liberals are such morons being pulled around by their noses by the rich wicked elite limousine left wing asshole.

"If it feels good then it must be right."

The living philosophy of every left wing elitist moron.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It certainly expands poverty. Funny, how as poverty expands, so does the democrat voting base.

Liberals are such morons being pulled around by their noses by the rich wicked elite limousine left wing asshole.

"If it feels good then it must be right."

The living philosophy of every left wing elitist moron.

How does Medicaid expand poverty? Who gets poor who formerly wasn't?

 

[Theowl32]

free markets are self correcting and spontaneously make us aware of where to apply our efforts.

centralized planning and control are useless in free markets.

No, they're useful in making some people rich and others powerful politically. For the average guy, not so much.

Sounds like a good description of our free market society.

The free market system is what has given you ALL of the things you enjoy today. Yeah, even toilet paper you use you fucking useless asswipe.

 

[JoeNormal]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

Wow, that is a really misinformed post.

Why is it that every example of so-called "successful socialism" is really an example of capitalism?

Yes, and every example of "successful capitalism" has a socialistic component to rein it in.

 

[The Rabbi]

Venezuela's Chavez was a big hero of the Left here. He came in with a program of Hope and Change that involved every leftist's wet dream: punish the rich, nationalize industry, screw the big corporations.
How'd that work out?
http://online.wsj.com/articles/despite-riches-venezuela-starts-food-rationing-1414025667
The country is out of basic necessities. Every adverse event was followed by more and stricter government controls. These in turn led to more problems. Price controls led to people diverting toilet paper across the border.
You cannot legislate laws of economics out of existence. Which is what the left here wants.

Socialism creates poverty, another vague generic premise. One could just as easily say the same about capitalism; a free market society creates poverty too. It becomes a question of how much poverty a society can tolerate and ignore......since all economic systems create poverty.

One could say that. If he were a complete numbskull totally ignorant of the facts. As you appear to be.

Good come back, who could possibly argue with that. So then capitalism doesn't produce poverty....is that part of your premise?

It's taken you this long to figure that out?
No, capitalism overall produces prosperity. Socialism produces poverty. Just repeat those last two sentences to yourself and eventually you might get it and quit posting stupid shit.

 

[The Rabbi]

free markets are self correcting and spontaneously make us aware of where to apply our efforts.

centralized planning and control are useless in free markets.

No, they're useful in making some people rich and others powerful politically. For the average guy, not so much.

Sounds like a good description of our free market society.

If you're drunk.

 

[The Rabbi]

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

- Fidel Castro

Capitalism works well in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, but Castro is right about Africa and Latin America. Nothing works well there. The standard of living is low.

The World Factbook

The crime rate is high.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nevertheless, socialized medicine works well in Cuba. The infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States.

The World Factbook

The life expectancy is nearly as high as in the United States.

The World Factbook

The closest approximation to democratic socialism is Scandinavian Social Democracy. By most criteria the quality of life there is better than in the United States.

Wow, that is a really misinformed post.

Why is it that every example of so-called "successful socialism" is really an example of capitalism?

Yes, and every example of "successful capitalism" has a socialistic component to rein it in.

You mean to make it less successful. Yes, that is correct. The more socialism and control, the less successful it is.