Some of these U.S. school districts are either cowards or slaves to Islam

[ninja007]

the difference also is Jesus was/is real and God, allah is a false moon god that does not exist.

 

[ogibillm]

the difference also is Jesus was/is real and God, allah is a false moon god that does not exist.

your opinion. but what is the 'difference' your belief makes in the classroom?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I'm wondering why a public school is teaching religion.

If they are teaching religion in public schools, it should be stopped by whoever is in charge of the school.

It was a history lesson.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I can't believe you think that there are secret muslim conversions happening in schools. And that Islam is the only religion taught in schools. Even for a total loon that's impressive.

This is a court case. The facts of the case include that children were REQUIRED to confess the Shihada. This isn't speculation or innuendo, it is fact.

You same leftists who sue to have Christmas trees outlawed are defending proselytizing in the public schools.

I am an agnostic and it is painfully clear that you of the radical left offer no support for separation of church and state, you are simply waging war on Christians, as part of the greater war by the left on American culture.

 

[Uncensored2008]

How was your latest trip to the closet with your rope? Remember David Carradine and don't be careless.

Hitting the vodka and paint chips hard again, I see.

 

[ogibillm]

I can't believe you think that there are secret muslim conversions happening in schools. And that Islam is the only religion taught in schools. Even for a total loon that's impressive.

This is a court case. The facts of the case include that children were REQUIRED to confess the Shihada. This isn't speculation or innuendo, it is fact.
.

nobody was required to 'confess' anything.

 

[Uncensored2008]

an ignorant parent made ignorant claims in an attempt to keep his daughter ignorant. then, when he threatened the school, the school sought out and was granted a restraining order.

why is anyone championing the idiot parent?

Should refusal to confess the Shihada in public school be grounds for expulsion, or do you leftists demand beheading as your ISIS allies do?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This character made threats to the school and was told to keep away. Its not really a story and its a shame that the school should have to spend time dealing with an ignorant bigot who even scares his own kids.

What is more interesting here is the way that groups are trying to politicise education. What is obvious from a brief glance at this board,and this thread, is that Americans need more knowledge of Islam and other religions in order to form a rounded view of the world and its history.

I would suggest that school is a better forum for that than some nutjob internet site.

 

[ogibillm]

an ignorant parent made ignorant claims in an attempt to keep his daughter ignorant. then, when he threatened the school, the school sought out and was granted a restraining order.

why is anyone championing the idiot parent?

Should refusal to confess the Shihada in public school be grounds for expulsion, or do you leftists demand beheading as your ISIS allies do?

nobody had to confess anything. why do you make such a silly claim?

 

[Uncensored2008]

nobody was required to 'confess' anything.

Well you're a fucking liar, you must be a democrat.

{
The First Amendment
prohibits the
promoti
on of
the religion of
Islam
over other
faiths, such as Christianity or Judaism,
in our public schools.
2.
The
United States
Supreme Court has held that our public schools should not
promote
a certain religion
over others
:
“School sponsorship of a religious message is
impermissible because it send
s
the ancillary message to members of the audience who are
nonadhe
rants ‘that they
are outsiders,
. . .
and an accompanying message to adherants that they
are insiders.
’
”
Santa Fe Indep. Sch. Dist. v. Doe
, 530 U.S. 290, 309
-
10 (2000) (quoting
Lynch v.
Donnelly
, 465 U.S. 668, 688 (1982) (O’Connor, J., concurring)).
3.
United States
Supreme Court precedent
does not create a double standard that
allows for the promotion of Islam in our public schools while disallowing
and silencing
the
teaching
s
of Christianity and Judaism
.
4.
This case, therefore, seeks to protect and vindicate
the
fun
damental constitutional
rights
of two Maryland parents and their daughter, C.W., who were harshly punished for voicing
concerns about the desecration of their Christian
beliefs and
heritage and the promotion of
the
Islam
ic
faith in
the
Defendants’
World
History c
lass
.
5.
Defendants concealed th
at
t
heir high school World History c
lass promoted Islam.
The class syllabus
failed to mention that the course involved the teaching and promotion of
Case 8:16-cv-00239-GJH Document 1 Filed 01/27/16 Page 2 of 25
3
Islam
. The class syllabus
also failed to mention that Defendants
were
us
ing two
different
textbook
s. Defendants required that
students keep
the
second textbook
,
which extensively
cover
ed
Islam
,
at
the
school.
Defendants only allowed students to take home the first textbook
that did not
extensively cover or devote a se
parate chapter to Islam
.
6.
Defendants
patently
rejected the
valid
requests and complaints
of
Pl
aintiffs, as
concerned parents, and
discriminated against
Plaintiffs’ daughter, C.W., by
removing her from
the academic environment of her World History class,
relegating her to the student
library
,
and
issuing
he
r failing grades on assignments
because
C.W.
refuse
d
to deny and insult her
Christian
beliefs by affirming, for example,
that Muslims hold stronger faith convictions than Christians
.
See
Exhibit 1 (“Mos
t Muslim’s
faith is stronger
than the average Christian.”) (emphasis in
original).
7.
Defendants
’ curriculum
, practices, policies, actions,
procedures,
and customs
promote
the Islamic faith
by
requiring students to
profess
the five pillars of Islam and
to
write
out faith statements
of
the religion.
Defendants require that students write out and
confess
the
Shahada
,
the Islamic Profession of Faith.
8.
Defendants, however, do not
treat
Christianity in the same manner
as Islam
.
Defendants
do not require
students to profess or write out faith statements of
Christian
ity,
including cre
eds
associated with Christianity
. In fact,
Defendants
teach about Christianity in a
disparaging manner and
do not require students to lea
rn
any tenants of Christianity or Juda
ism,
such as
the Ten
Commandments
.
9.
Defendants spent only one day teaching Christianity, but devoted
approximately
two weeks
to
promoting Islam.
Case 8:16-cv-00239-GJH Document 1 Filed 01/27/16 Page 3 of 25
4
10.
A school cannot achieve d
iversity by punishing and alienating students who hold
Judeo
-
Christian beliefs
, while b
olstering the doctrine
s
and
teachings
of other religions
.
11.
Defendants have treated Plaintiffs’ Christian
beliefs and
heritage
as subordinate to
Islamic
beliefs and
heritage, have treated Plaintiffs’ Christian
beliefs and
heritage
with deliberate
indifferenc
e, and
have been hostile toward
C.W.
and her
family.
12.
Plaintiffs
challeng
e
Defendants’
acts, policies, practices, customs, and procedures,
which deprive
d and are depriving
Plaintiffs and
C.W. of
their
fundamental right
to be free from
a
public school’s
promotion of
certain religious belief
s
, the
ir
fundamental right to be able to speak
freely and raise concerns about religion being taught in our public schools
without
retaliation,
and the
ir
fundamental right
to be free from unjust discrimination against t
heir Christian heritage.
13.
Plaintiffs bring this civil rights action under the First and Fourteenth Amendments
to the United States Constitution, 42 U.S.C. § 1983, Title IX of the Education Amendments of
1972, Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
, and un
der the laws of the State of Maryland
.}

https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-conte...mic-Indoctrination-Complaint-Time-Stamped.pdf

 

[Uncensored2008]

This character made threats to the school and was told to keep away. Its not really a story and its a shame that the school should have to spend time dealing with an ignorant bigot who even scares his own kids.

What is more interesting here is the way that groups are trying to politicise education. What is obvious from a brief glance at this board,and this thread, is that Americans need more knowledge of Islam and other religions in order to form a rounded view of the world and its history.

I would suggest that school is a better forum for that than some nutjob internet site.

So the democratic - socialist party is on record demanding Islamic proselytizers in public schools.

Hey, it's not like you filthy fucks are traitors, oh wait, yes it is...

 

[ogibillm]

nobody was required to 'confess' anything.

Well you're a fucking liar, you must be a democrat.

{
The First Amendment
prohibits the
promoti
on of
the religion of
Islam
over other
faiths, such as Christianity or Judaism,
in our public schools.
2.
The
United States
Supreme Court has held that our public schools should not
promote
a certain religion
over others
:
“School sponsorship of a religious message is
impermissible because it send
s
the ancillary message to members of the audience who are
nonadhe
rants ‘that they
are outsiders,
. . .
and an accompanying message to adherants that they
are insiders.
’
”
Santa Fe Indep. Sch. Dist. v. Doe
, 530 U.S. 290, 309
-
10 (2000) (quoting
Lynch v.
Donnelly
, 465 U.S. 668, 688 (1982) (O’Connor, J., concurring)).
3.
United States
Supreme Court precedent
does not create a double standard that
allows for the promotion of Islam in our public schools while disallowing
and silencing
the
teaching
s
of Christianity and Judaism
.
4.
This case, therefore, seeks to protect and vindicate
the
fun
damental constitutional
rights
of two Maryland parents and their daughter, C.W., who were harshly punished for voicing
concerns about the desecration of their Christian
beliefs and
heritage and the promotion of
the
Islam
ic
faith in
the
Defendants’
World
History c
lass
.
5.
Defendants concealed th
at
t
heir high school World History c
lass promoted Islam.
The class syllabus
failed to mention that the course involved the teaching and promotion of
Case 8:16-cv-00239-GJH Document 1 Filed 01/27/16 Page 2 of 25
3
Islam
. The class syllabus
also failed to mention that Defendants
were
us
ing two
different
textbook
s. Defendants required that
students keep
the
second textbook
,
which extensively
cover
ed
Islam
,
at
the
school.
Defendants only allowed students to take home the first textbook
that did not
extensively cover or devote a se
parate chapter to Islam
.
6.
Defendants
patently
rejected the
valid
requests and complaints
of
Pl
aintiffs, as
concerned parents, and
discriminated against
Plaintiffs’ daughter, C.W., by
removing her from
the academic environment of her World History class,
relegating her to the student
library
,
and
issuing
he
r failing grades on assignments
because
C.W.
refuse
d
to deny and insult her
Christian
beliefs by affirming, for example,
that Muslims hold stronger faith convictions than Christians
.
See
Exhibit 1 (“Mos
t Muslim’s
faith is stronger
than the average Christian.”) (emphasis in
original).
7.
Defendants
’ curriculum
, practices, policies, actions,
procedures,
and customs
promote
the Islamic faith
by
requiring students to
profess
the five pillars of Islam and
to
write
out faith statements
of
the religion.
Defendants require that students write out and
confess
the
Shahada
,
the Islamic Profession of Faith.
8.
Defendants, however, do not
treat
Christianity in the same manner
as Islam
.
Defendants
do not require
students to profess or write out faith statements of
Christian
ity,
including cre
eds
associated with Christianity
. In fact,
Defendants
teach about Christianity in a
disparaging manner and
do not require students to lea
rn
any tenants of Christianity or Juda
ism,
such as
the Ten
Commandments
.
9.
Defendants spent only one day teaching Christianity, but devoted
approximately
two weeks
to
promoting Islam.
Case 8:16-cv-00239-GJH Document 1 Filed 01/27/16 Page 3 of 25
4
10.
A school cannot achieve d
iversity by punishing and alienating students who hold
Judeo
-
Christian beliefs
, while b
olstering the doctrine
s
and
teachings
of other religions
.
11.
Defendants have treated Plaintiffs’ Christian
beliefs and
heritage
as subordinate to
Islamic
beliefs and
heritage, have treated Plaintiffs’ Christian
beliefs and
heritage
with deliberate
indifferenc
e, and
have been hostile toward
C.W.
and her
family.
12.
Plaintiffs
challeng
e
Defendants’
acts, policies, practices, customs, and procedures,
which deprive
d and are depriving
Plaintiffs and
C.W. of
their
fundamental right
to be free from
a
public school’s
promotion of
certain religious belief
s
, the
ir
fundamental right to be able to speak
freely and raise concerns about religion being taught in our public schools
without
retaliation,
and the
ir
fundamental right
to be free from unjust discrimination against t
heir Christian heritage.
13.
Plaintiffs bring this civil rights action under the First and Fourteenth Amendments
to the United States Constitution, 42 U.S.C. § 1983, Title IX of the Education Amendments of
1972, Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
, and un
der the laws of the State of Maryland
.}

https://www.thomasmore.org/wp-conte...mic-Indoctrination-Complaint-Time-Stamped.pdf

just because the plaintiffs claim it doesn't make it true.

nobody had to confess anything

 

[turzovka]

nobody had to confess anything. why do you make such a silly claim?

The students, the complaint says, were required to “write out and confess the shahada, the Islamic profession of faith.” The legal team notes the shahada states, “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”

“For non-Muslims, reciting the statement is sufficient to convert one to Islam,” the complaint says. “Moreover, the second part of the statement, ‘Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,’ signifies the person has accepted Muhammad as their spiritual leader. The teenager was also required to memorize and recite the Five Pillars of Islam.”

Not only did the district refuse permission for C.W. to opt out of the religious assignments, it imposed grades of zero.

 

[ogibillm]

nobody had to confess anything. why do you make such a silly claim?

The students, the complaint says, were required to “write out and confess the shahada, the Islamic profession of faith.” The legal team notes the shahada states, “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”

“For non-Muslims, reciting the statement is sufficient to convert one to Islam,” the complaint says. “Moreover, the second part of the statement, ‘Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,’ signifies the person has accepted Muhammad as their spiritual leader. The teenager was also required to memorize and recite the Five Pillars of Islam.”

Not only did the district refuse permission for C.W. to opt out of the religious assignments, it imposed grades of zero.

yeah. dumbasses are using the word 'confess' where it does not apply. what's your point?

 

[Uncensored2008]

your opinion. but what is the 'difference' your belief makes in the classroom?

Mention or promotion of religion is STRICTLY illegal in public schools - unless that religion is Islam.

There is no hypocrisy like demopocrisy.

 

[Tilly]

This character made threats to the school and was told to keep away. Its not really a story and its a shame that the school should have to spend time dealing with an ignorant bigot who even scares his own kids.

What is more interesting here is the way that groups are trying to politicise education. What is obvious from a brief glance at this board,and this thread, is that Americans need more knowledge of Islam and other religions in order to form a rounded view of the world and its history.

I would suggest that school is a better forum for that than some nutjob internet site.

There is no evidence his threats consisted of anything other than contacting the media and a lawyer. Stop presenting unproven allegations as fact. And no, they aren't gaining a 'rounded view' of Islam, they are being fed pro Islamic propaganda.

 

[ogibillm]

This character made threats to the school and was told to keep away. Its not really a story and its a shame that the school should have to spend time dealing with an ignorant bigot who even scares his own kids.

What is more interesting here is the way that groups are trying to politicise education. What is obvious from a brief glance at this board,and this thread, is that Americans need more knowledge of Islam and other religions in order to form a rounded view of the world and its history.

I would suggest that school is a better forum for that than some nutjob internet site.

There is no evidence his threats consisted of anything other than contacting the media and a lawyer. Stop presenting unproven allegations as fact. And no,mother aren't gaining a 'rounded view' of Islam, they are being fed pro Islamic propaganda.

the school was granted a restraining order. do you think those are given out like gum?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This character made threats to the school and was told to keep away. Its not really a story and its a shame that the school should have to spend time dealing with an ignorant bigot who even scares his own kids.

What is more interesting here is the way that groups are trying to politicise education. What is obvious from a brief glance at this board,and this thread, is that Americans need more knowledge of Islam and other religions in order to form a rounded view of the world and its history.

I would suggest that school is a better forum for that than some nutjob internet site.

So the democratic - socialist party is on record demanding Islamic proselytizers in public schools.

Hey, it's not like you filthy fucks are traitors, oh wait, yes it is...

Well you twist my words in a primitive way. When did "not knowing" become a desirable trait ?

 

[regent]

Reminds me of the college elective I took during the McCarthy period. It was a course on communism and the instructor suggested we put a book cover on the "Karl Marx" book as a barrier to being called a communist or the school be accused of teaching communism. For some, education is a threat, and ignorance a blessing.

 

[Uncensored2008]

nobody had to confess anything. why do you make such a silly claim?

The students, the complaint says, were required to “write out and confess the shahada, the Islamic profession of faith.” The legal team notes the shahada states, “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.”

“For non-Muslims, reciting the statement is sufficient to convert one to Islam,” the complaint says. “Moreover, the second part of the statement, ‘Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,’ signifies the person has accepted Muhammad as their spiritual leader. The teenager was also required to memorize and recite the Five Pillars of Islam.”

Not only did the district refuse permission for C.W. to opt out of the religious assignments, it imposed grades of zero.

What we have to accept is that leftists do not object to the use of public schools to promote religion, in fact they support it. Leftists are at war with Christianity - pure and simple. Anything that furthers the goal of crushing their enemy, including the promotion of Islam in public schools, is supported by the left.

Christians are a problem for the left, Christians hold the view that their god is the ultimate authority and the each individual is directly responsible only to god. The left holds that only the state has authority and all must be obedient without question to the state. So the left wages war to end or make irrelevant, Christianity.