South Carolina schools may teach gun safety and training

[WinterBorn]

I highly doubt that the kids will be going to the range with guns anyway. Lol!

That is not an answer. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns, yes or no?

According to the OP, yes it will include going to the range. That is not all it will include, but it will be part of the class.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Why would you NOT want your child to learn how to properly handle a gun? What if your child happened upon one, out the in woods while playing, over a friend's house? Wouldn't you rather they realize the deadly potential of the weapon, or to be ignorant of it and perhaps look at it as if it were a toy?

Basically, you are saying that you would rather your child remain ignorant.

The rules are very simple - see a gun, don't not "handle" it, and run for your life. That is all the Gun Safety any child needs in this day and age. Got it?

Yeah, I understand your "head in the sand" method of safety.

I just think it is stupid.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So in a class about drugs, one should use drugs? You want the full experience right?

A gun is not a drug, strawman.

Most people use drugs safely, and most use guns safely, but people still get dead from both. If we can teach about drugs without the kids using them then we can teach about guns without the kids firing them, but you wouldn't like that kind of class now would you?

Also, guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Answer the question. What if we teach Gun Safety but no kid fires a gun, yes or no?

Well I don't have a problem with it either way. It's always better to be educated on a subject than ignorant about it.

Good, an answer at last. It's like pulling teeth but good. And the class taught without firing a gun will last 20 minutes. Done deal. And that one I would make mandatory because of all the fucking loose guns in this country.

 

[ChrisL]

It's pretty much a fact that if you are educated about a thing, you are less likely to hurt yourself or others with that thing.

So in a class about drugs, one should use drugs? You want the full experience right?

A gun is not a drug, strawman.

Most people use drugs safely, and most use guns safely, but people still get dead from both. If we can teach about drugs without the kids using them then we can teach about guns without the kids firing them, but you wouldn't like that kind of class now would you?

Are you alright? Drugs are illegal. Guns are a constitutional right.

Alcohol is illegal? Pot is illegal in all states? The prescription drugs in the bathroom are illegal? The things kids can buy and use as a drug are illegal?

If we can teach Drug Safety without using drugs what's the problem with teaching Gun Safety without firing a gun?

You are an idiot, obviously.

 

[WinterBorn]

The article in the OP stated that the kids would be taken to a local gun range for the actual shooting part of the class. I am fine with that.

Really? And IF a kid gets shot while at the range, who will be responsible? The NRA? Aren't they conducting the class?
OR were the parents asked to sign an agreement that the parent wouldn't hold anyone responsible if their kid was accidentally shot?

I have no idea what the legal requirements will be for a class that does not exist yet.

But I do know that if teh students follow the safety rules, they will not be shot by accident.

I would imagine that the gun range time would come after some extensive classroom training, and that they would not all be lined up to handle the guns their first time at the range.

 

[ChrisL]

A gun is not a drug, strawman.

Most people use drugs safely, and most use guns safely, but people still get dead from both. If we can teach about drugs without the kids using them then we can teach about guns without the kids firing them, but you wouldn't like that kind of class now would you?

Also, guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Answer the question. What if we teach Gun Safety but no kid fires a gun, yes or no?

Well I don't have a problem with it either way. It's always better to be educated on a subject than ignorant about it.

Good, an answer at last. It's like pulling teeth but good. And the class taught without firing a gun will last 20 minutes. Done deal. And that one I would make mandatory because of all the fucking loose guns in this country.

Why would it last 20 minutes? There is PLENTY to learn about guns, the history of guns, etc. As I'm sure you know, our country (since it has been America) has ALWAYS had guns. Always, and they aren't going anywhere either.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That is not an answer. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns, yes or no?

According to the OP, yes it will include going to the range. That is not all it will include, but it will be part of the class.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Why would you NOT want your child to learn how to properly handle a gun? What if your child happened upon one, out the in woods while playing, over a friend's house? Wouldn't you rather they realize the deadly potential of the weapon, or to be ignorant of it and perhaps look at it as if it were a toy?

Basically, you are saying that you would rather your child remain ignorant.

The rules are very simple - see a gun, don't not "handle" it, and run for your life. That is all the Gun Safety any child needs in this day and age. Got it?

Yeah, I understand your "head in the sand" method of safety.

I just think it is stupid.

And I think letting children be around, fire, or even worse, own guns is stupid.

 

[ChrisL]

According to the OP, yes it will include going to the range. That is not all it will include, but it will be part of the class.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Why would you NOT want your child to learn how to properly handle a gun? What if your child happened upon one, out the in woods while playing, over a friend's house? Wouldn't you rather they realize the deadly potential of the weapon, or to be ignorant of it and perhaps look at it as if it were a toy?

Basically, you are saying that you would rather your child remain ignorant.

The rules are very simple - see a gun, don't not "handle" it, and run for your life. That is all the Gun Safety any child needs in this day and age. Got it?

Yeah, I understand your "head in the sand" method of safety.

I just think it is stupid.

And I think letting children be around, fire, or even worse own guns is stupid.

Who said anything about children owning guns? You are jumping the gun.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Most people use drugs safely, and most use guns safely, but people still get dead from both. If we can teach about drugs without the kids using them then we can teach about guns without the kids firing them, but you wouldn't like that kind of class now would you?

Also, guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Answer the question. What if we teach Gun Safety but no kid fires a gun, yes or no?

Well I don't have a problem with it either way. It's always better to be educated on a subject than ignorant about it.

Good, an answer at last. It's like pulling teeth but good. And the class taught without firing a gun will last 20 minutes. Done deal. And that one I would make mandatory because of all the fucking loose guns in this country.

Why would it last 20 minutes? There is PLENTY to learn about guns, the history of guns, etc. As I'm sure you know, our country (since it has been America) has ALWAYS had guns. Always, and they aren't going anywhere either.

Gun Safety doesn't require one to know the history of the gun. All it requires is to know what to do should you happen upon one, what they are for, and why so many people get dead by them year after year here but not in other nations.

 

[WinterBorn]

I have no idea where they will get the materials for their study of the 2nd Amendment. Got a link for this "forced study of NRA material"?

Right here:

"South Carolina lawmaker has proposed making local school students spend three weeks studying the Second Amendment using materials “developed or recommended” by the NRA, reports CarolinaLive."
South Carolina lawmaker wants high schools to spend 3 weeks teaching NRA class on guns

Good news! Our rights are very important, and the children should know their rights. I never learned much about my rights in school. I really think the schools should start talking more about it.

Well if the NRA can teach guns you should have no problems with Playboy or Planned Parenthood teaching sex.

Does Playboy have 100 years of experience teaching sex ed?

Was the NRA started to teach Gun Safety?

No, that is not the reason they were formed. But then, they were formed in 1871. They started teaching gun safety in 1903.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Why would you NOT want your child to learn how to properly handle a gun? What if your child happened upon one, out the in woods while playing, over a friend's house? Wouldn't you rather they realize the deadly potential of the weapon, or to be ignorant of it and perhaps look at it as if it were a toy?

Basically, you are saying that you would rather your child remain ignorant.

The rules are very simple - see a gun, don't not "handle" it, and run for your life. That is all the Gun Safety any child needs in this day and age. Got it?

Yeah, I understand your "head in the sand" method of safety.

I just think it is stupid.

And I think letting children be around, fire, or even worse own guns is stupid.

Who said anything about children owning guns? You are jumping the gun.

His kids have guns. And what kid, after taking this class, wouldn't want a gun? That's the whole point of the class, making more gun nuts.

 

[WinterBorn]

I highly doubt that the kids will be going to the range with guns anyway. Lol!

That is not an answer. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns, yes or no?

According to the OP, yes it will include going to the range. That is not all it will include, but it will be part of the class.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Your question was answered in the link in the OP (almost 50 pages ago).

From that linked article: "The second bill, being proposed in the Senate, would offer an optional gun safety or gun marksmanship course to students, though at an off-campus location."

So yes, it is optional and yes they go to a gun range.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

I answered the question. You seem unable to read. In fact, the answer was in the post you quoted.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why would you NOT want your child to learn how to properly handle a gun? What if your child happened upon one, out the in woods while playing, over a friend's house? Wouldn't you rather they realize the deadly potential of the weapon, or to be ignorant of it and perhaps look at it as if it were a toy?

Basically, you are saying that you would rather your child remain ignorant.

The rules are very simple - see a gun, don't not "handle" it, and run for your life. That is all the Gun Safety any child needs in this day and age. Got it?

Yeah, I understand your "head in the sand" method of safety.

I just think it is stupid.

And I think letting children be around, fire, or even worse own guns is stupid.

Who said anything about children owning guns? You are jumping the gun.

His kids have guns. And what kid, after taking this class, wouldn't want a gun? That's the whole point of the class, making more gun nuts.

My kids have guns? How old are my kids? And when did the kids of mine that own guns buy their guns?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That is not an answer. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns, yes or no?

According to the OP, yes it will include going to the range. That is not all it will include, but it will be part of the class.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Your question was answered in the link in the OP (almost 50 pages ago).

From that linked article: "The second bill, being proposed in the Senate, would offer an optional gun safety or gun marksmanship course to students, though at an off-campus location."

So yes, it is optional and yes they go to a gun range.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

I answered the question. You seem unable to read. In fact, the answer was in the post you quoted.

I'm asking you. Does a Gun Safety class including firing a gun? So far one here says no, and I say no, so what's your opinion and is the Gun Safety class optional?

 

[WinterBorn]

Also, guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Answer the question. What if we teach Gun Safety but no kid fires a gun, yes or no?

Well I don't have a problem with it either way. It's always better to be educated on a subject than ignorant about it.

Good, an answer at last. It's like pulling teeth but good. And the class taught without firing a gun will last 20 minutes. Done deal. And that one I would make mandatory because of all the fucking loose guns in this country.

Why would it last 20 minutes? There is PLENTY to learn about guns, the history of guns, etc. As I'm sure you know, our country (since it has been America) has ALWAYS had guns. Always, and they aren't going anywhere either.

Gun Safety doesn't require one to know the history of the gun. All it requires is to know what to do should you happen upon one, what they are for, and why so many people get dead by them year after year here but not in other nations.

That is your opinion and based on the wish that guns were banned. But, in reality, people have guns for a variety of reasons. Making them safer gun owners (if they ever own one) is a good idea. I could eliminate the accidental shootings.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The rules are very simple - see a gun, don't not "handle" it, and run for your life. That is all the Gun Safety any child needs in this day and age. Got it?

Yeah, I understand your "head in the sand" method of safety.

I just think it is stupid.

And I think letting children be around, fire, or even worse own guns is stupid.

Who said anything about children owning guns? You are jumping the gun.

His kids have guns. And what kid, after taking this class, wouldn't want a gun? That's the whole point of the class, making more gun nuts.

My kids have guns? How old are my kids? And when did the kids of mine that own guns buy their guns?

Your kids would be 20 to 35, you undoubtedly bought them their first guns. You like guns and so do they you said.

 

[WinterBorn]

According to the OP, yes it will include going to the range. That is not all it will include, but it will be part of the class.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Your question was answered in the link in the OP (almost 50 pages ago).

From that linked article: "The second bill, being proposed in the Senate, would offer an optional gun safety or gun marksmanship course to students, though at an off-campus location."

So yes, it is optional and yes they go to a gun range.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

I answered the question. You seem unable to read. In fact, the answer was in the post you quoted.

I'm asking you. Does a Gun Safety class including firing a gun? So far one here says no, and I say no, so what's your opinion and is the Gun Safety class optional?

Are you asking about the gun class that may be added to the SC public school system?

Or are you asking me to speak about every gun class everywhere?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Answer the question. What if we teach Gun Safety but no kid fires a gun, yes or no?

Well I don't have a problem with it either way. It's always better to be educated on a subject than ignorant about it.

Good, an answer at last. It's like pulling teeth but good. And the class taught without firing a gun will last 20 minutes. Done deal. And that one I would make mandatory because of all the fucking loose guns in this country.

Why would it last 20 minutes? There is PLENTY to learn about guns, the history of guns, etc. As I'm sure you know, our country (since it has been America) has ALWAYS had guns. Always, and they aren't going anywhere either.

Gun Safety doesn't require one to know the history of the gun. All it requires is to know what to do should you happen upon one, what they are for, and why so many people get dead by them year after year here but not in other nations.

That is your opinion and based on the wish that guns were banned. But, in reality, people have guns for a variety of reasons. Making them safer gun owners (if they ever own one) is a good idea. I could eliminate the accidental shootings.

You will never eliminate accidental shootings. That is your magical thinking again.

And for nearly everyone I would ban guns. The average person need not own one.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

Your question was answered in the link in the OP (almost 50 pages ago).

From that linked article: "The second bill, being proposed in the Senate, would offer an optional gun safety or gun marksmanship course to students, though at an off-campus location."

So yes, it is optional and yes they go to a gun range.

You seem to be unable to answer this simple question. Does a Gun Safety class including firing guns and is the class itself optional?

I answered the question. You seem unable to read. In fact, the answer was in the post you quoted.

I'm asking you. Does a Gun Safety class including firing a gun? So far one here says no, and I say no, so what's your opinion and is the Gun Safety class optional?

Are you asking about the gun class that may be added to the SC public school system?

Or are you asking me to speak about every gun class everywhere?

I'm asking you. Does a Gun Safety class including firing a gun? So far one here says no, and I say no, so what's your opinion and is the Gun Safety class optional?

 

[WinterBorn]

Yeah, I understand your "head in the sand" method of safety.

I just think it is stupid.

And I think letting children be around, fire, or even worse own guns is stupid.

Who said anything about children owning guns? You are jumping the gun.

His kids have guns. And what kid, after taking this class, wouldn't want a gun? That's the whole point of the class, making more gun nuts.

My kids have guns? How old are my kids? And when did the kids of mine that own guns buy their guns?

Your kids would be 20 to 35, you undoubtedly bought them their first guns. You like guns and so do they you said.

My kids are all adults.

As for your conjecture about their first guns, or any guns, you are wrong. My kids bought their own. When they were adults.

Not surprising that you want to act as if you know me and mine, when you clearly do not.

 

[WinterBorn]

Well I don't have a problem with it either way. It's always better to be educated on a subject than ignorant about it.

Good, an answer at last. It's like pulling teeth but good. And the class taught without firing a gun will last 20 minutes. Done deal. And that one I would make mandatory because of all the fucking loose guns in this country.

Why would it last 20 minutes? There is PLENTY to learn about guns, the history of guns, etc. As I'm sure you know, our country (since it has been America) has ALWAYS had guns. Always, and they aren't going anywhere either.

Gun Safety doesn't require one to know the history of the gun. All it requires is to know what to do should you happen upon one, what they are for, and why so many people get dead by them year after year here but not in other nations.

That is your opinion and based on the wish that guns were banned. But, in reality, people have guns for a variety of reasons. Making them safer gun owners (if they ever own one) is a good idea. I could eliminate the accidental shootings.

You will never eliminate accidental shootings. That is your magical thinking again.

And for nearly everyone I would ban guns. The average person need not own one.

Only because not everyone follows the basic gun safety rules. If they did, there would be no accidental shootings.