Strategist: Democrat Party in Decline

I look at George Bush as the high water mark of the Republican Party. His 90% approval after 9-11 and subsequent collapse highlighted the failed policies of his party

Unless they reform, the party will never recover
 
I look at George Bush as the high water mark of the Republican Party. His 90% approval after 9-11 and subsequent collapse highlighted the failed policies of his party

Unless they reform, the party will never recover

For clarity, would your definition of 'reform' involve endorsing big government, even greater spending and additional entitlements, doing away with sovereignty, and seeing to it that the Constitution continues to be no more than a suggestion?


And....would you suggest that all the Republicans apply for membership in the Congressional Progressive Caucus and their sister organization, the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA?

Would that do it....or would they have to actually march in the May Day parade?
 
I look at George Bush as the high water mark of the Republican Party. His 90% approval after 9-11 and subsequent collapse highlighted the failed policies of his party

Unless they reform, the party will never recover

For clarity, would your definition of 'reform' involve endorsing big government, even greater spending and additional entitlements, doing away with sovereignty, and seeing to it that the Constitution continues to be no more than a suggestion?


And....would you suggest that all the Republicans apply for membership in the Congressional Progressive Caucus and their sister organization, the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA?

Would that do it....or would they have to actually march in the May Day parade?

Hyperbole?
 
I look at George Bush as the high water mark of the Republican Party. His 90% approval after 9-11 and subsequent collapse highlighted the failed policies of his party

Unless they reform, the party will never recover

For clarity, would your definition of 'reform' involve endorsing big government, even greater spending and additional entitlements, doing away with sovereignty, and seeing to it that the Constitution continues to be no more than a suggestion?


And....would you suggest that all the Republicans apply for membership in the Congressional Progressive Caucus and their sister organization, the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA?

Would that do it....or would they have to actually march in the May Day parade?

Hyperbole?

Well, then....let me answer for you.

Yes, that is exactly what you'd like....desire....pray for....

Because then you'd no longer fear that the obvious errors of Liberalism would be exposed.

You wouldn't have the constant dread that educated folks would point out that the logical conclusion of your program is destruction of society at best....

...a return of the gulags at worst.
 
For clarity, would your definition of 'reform' involve endorsing big government, even greater spending and additional entitlements, doing away with sovereignty, and seeing to it that the Constitution continues to be no more than a suggestion?


And....would you suggest that all the Republicans apply for membership in the Congressional Progressive Caucus and their sister organization, the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA?

Would that do it....or would they have to actually march in the May Day parade?

Hyperbole?

Well, then....let me answer for you.

Yes, that is exactly what you'd like....desire....pray for....

Because then you'd no longer fear that the obvious errors of Liberalism would be exposed.

You wouldn't have the constant dread that educated folks would point out that the logical conclusion of your program is destruction of society at best....

...a return of the gulags at worst.

Gulags?

Was I spot on about the hyperbole or what?
 
Hyperbole?

Well, then....let me answer for you.

Yes, that is exactly what you'd like....desire....pray for....

Because then you'd no longer fear that the obvious errors of Liberalism would be exposed.

You wouldn't have the constant dread that educated folks would point out that the logical conclusion of your program is destruction of society at best....

...a return of the gulags at worst.

Gulags?

Was I spot on about the hyperbole or what?


As was I about your fear to engage on ideas.
 
Hyperbole?

Well, then....let me answer for you.

Yes, that is exactly what you'd like....desire....pray for....

Because then you'd no longer fear that the obvious errors of Liberalism would be exposed.

You wouldn't have the constant dread that educated folks would point out that the logical conclusion of your program is destruction of society at best....

...a return of the gulags at worst.

Gulags?

Was I spot on about the hyperbole or what?


As was I about your fear to engage on ideas.





You should know by now that I can always back up what I say.

Barack Obama was intimately involved with terrorists such as Bill Ayers...'Weatherman.'




During the heyday of the Weathermen, an FBI informant infiltrated.

In the following he describes conversations with these folks, in which they explain the need for gulags when they took over.

And extermination.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ]Larry Grathwohl on Ayers' plan for American re-education camps and the need to kill millions - YouTube[/ame]



Pay attention at 1:28 of the vid.
 
Well, then....let me answer for you.

Yes, that is exactly what you'd like....desire....pray for....

Because then you'd no longer fear that the obvious errors of Liberalism would be exposed.

You wouldn't have the constant dread that educated folks would point out that the logical conclusion of your program is destruction of society at best....

...a return of the gulags at worst.

Gulags?

Was I spot on about the hyperbole or what?


As was I about your fear to engage on ideas.

Lets talk about the republican budget committee chairmen- Paul Ryan (R) basing his entire life on a a novelist whose work was average. :razz: You a Randian as well PoliChic?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand
Ayn Rand was a philandering, Russian atheist,[2] the author of vast doorstop-sized tomes like Atlas Shrugged and the ripped-off biography The Fountainhead, and other thick, boring books espousing, essentially, psychotic libertarian themes and ideology.

The drooling fans:
Generally, the work of Ms. Rand is hugely enjoyed by people with the literary sensitivities of 11 year olds who imagine they have fierce political sophistication. These people, due to their often-slavish devotion to Objectivist principles, are often called Randroids.
Alan Greenspan is known to be one. So is U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R - WI), who unfortunately is the chairman of the House Budget Committee ran for Vice President. Outsiders perceive them as greedy, callous wankers with economic OCD. Insiders know they are greedy, callous wankers with economic OCD.
 
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I look at George Bush as the high water mark of the Republican Party. His 90% approval after 9-11 and subsequent collapse highlighted the failed policies of his party

Unless they reform, the party will never recover

we are kind of saying the same thing about the democrats and Obama's fall from grace
 
Well, then....let me answer for you.

Yes, that is exactly what you'd like....desire....pray for....

Because then you'd no longer fear that the obvious errors of Liberalism would be exposed.

You wouldn't have the constant dread that educated folks would point out that the logical conclusion of your program is destruction of society at best....

...a return of the gulags at worst.

Gulags?

Was I spot on about the hyperbole or what?


As was I about your fear to engage on ideas.





You should know by now that I can always back up what I say.

Barack Obama was intimately involved with terrorists such as Bill Ayers...'Weatherman.'




During the heyday of the Weathermen, an FBI informant infiltrated.

In the following he describes conversations with these folks, in which they explain the need for gulags when they took over.

And extermination.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ]Larry Grathwohl on Ayers' plan for American re-education camps and the need to kill millions - YouTube[/ame]



Pay attention at 1:28 of the vid.

Tell us the one about he FEMA Death camps

Please?
 
This is good news, hopefully soon it will be great news. When the Democrat Party loses, America wins! The Democrats are in trouble with unions starting to fall out over Obamacare, and Obamacare can only be tied to Democrats. Wait until Americans suffer through Obamacare, Democrats will be the only ones to blame. Once Obamacare starts screwing Americans over...it's over for the Democrats. That is why they are wanting to grant amnesty to so many illegals..they need new voters to replace this who will abandon them.

Unfortunately, Republicans are not much better at this point. Senator Ted Cruz made a brave and bold stand by stating he doesn't trust his own party. The Republican Party has an opportunity to win big...follow Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Deb Fischer and others like them. They need to abandon Democrat Trojan horses like John McShame, Lyndsay Gramnesty, Marco Boobio, and Jeff Fake (the letter "L" purposely left out).
 
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It is interesting to note that everyone here read the OP and then suddenly jumped on the national bandwagon. Notice that the source was not speaking about any particular election or office but as the party as a whole. While the Democrats have held on to the presidency and the senate as well as making some gains in the house, the republicans hold fairly comfortable majorities at ALL OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. They have far more governors as well as majorities in more states legislators as well as lower legislative bodies. Where the Republican Party is growing in strength is NOT on the national scale but on the local scale. Ignore that at your own peril.

I do find that interesting though. I have to wonder shy such is happening. I don’t really have any particularly strong theories as to why this is at this point. Perhaps the evangelical influence on national republicans and social issues is dragging the national stage down but at the local level that would be FAR less harmful to a candidate.
 
Sometimes events occur, as they say, 'when you least expect it....."
That is the truth that Democrat analyst Doug Sosnik speaks to his party....

Democratic strategist: Party 'in decline'

1. “Since Obama was elected President, the Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik, the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House, writes in a new memo..... , the Democratic Party’s favorability rating has declined by 15 points since Obama took power. A Pew Research Center survey this January showed that the Democratic Party was viewed favorably by 47 percent of Americans, down from 62 percent in Jan. 2009.


2. Obama neither directly campaigned nor raised money for down-ticket Democrats last year. The post-election creation of Organizing for Action to push his own agenda has upset party regulars because it makes the Democratic National Committee less relevant than ever, squeezes fundraising for other Democratic groups and emphasizes issues that put moderates in a bind.

3. “Obama not only got elected by running against the party establishment, but he has governed as a President who does not emphasize his party label,” writes Sosnik.






4. Sosnik outlines several challenges facing his own party:

• Obama’s personal popularity does not easily translate for other candidates. The president is not building the Democratic Party’s institutional apparatus in a way that it will thrive when he’s gone.

• The losses in the 2010 midterms gave Republicans control of the redistricting process, which will be in effect until after the 2020 census. This gives the GOP a structural advantage in keeping the House.

• Millennials, born 1981 to 1994, and Generation X’ers, born 1965 to 1980, are voting Democratic, but a plurality identify themselves as independents — which makes them less reliable.

• Democrats cannot count on the same level of African-American turnout without Obama at the top of the ticket. Sosnik cites new analysis showing that in 2012 for the first time ever eligible black voters turned out a higher rate than whites.





5. While Republicans have a serious Hispanic problem, Sosnik explains, “younger Hispanics feel less of an allegiance to the Democratic Party than their elders.” Only 50 percent of Hispanic voters aged 18-34 identify themselves as Democrats, according to Gallup, compared to 59 percent of Hispanic voters 55 or older.

6. If Hillary Clinton does not run, Sosnik fears that Democrats will be left with a thin bench of top-flight presidential contenders in 2016.

7. Looking to 2014, Democratic base groups also tend to turn out at lower rates for midterms than presidential elections.

8. In terms of actual policy making, Sosnik believes that it will be “almost impossible” for Obama to effectively engage Congress.

9. ... the fact that he didn’t set out a clear policy agenda for a second term left him without a clear mandate to govern over a politically divided Congress....

10. “Furthermore,” he writes, “there’s not a single member of either party who fears paying a political price for not falling in line with the President, making it even more difficult to get members to cast difficult votes.”
Read more: Democratic strategist: Party 'in decline' - POLITICO.com






First, the socialist/communists took over the Democrat Party..

11. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.

a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies

b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.
Aaron Klein, "Red Army"

.....but even that wasn't extreme enough for them....



Interesting....the folks talking about a third party didn't recognize that we have one now.....
the Obama Fanatics Party.

I find this laughable. Both parties are in decline. To single out democrats and ignore the obvious decay in the republican party is just nauseating.

I think you could make the argument that neither one is in decline necessarily. I think what we are seeing is a lack of faith in contemporary politics by the American people. Both parties have the opportunity to rebound. Right now its just a slump in general. Until one or both parties gets another '08 Obama candidate, things are going to stay as they are.
 
I find this laughable. Both parties are in decline. To single out democrats and ignore the obvious decay in the republican party is just nauseating.

I think you could make the argument that neither one is in decline necessarily. I think what we are seeing is a lack of faith in contemporary politics by the American people. Both parties have the opportunity to rebound. Right now its just a slump in general. Until one or both parties gets another '08 Obama candidate, things are going to stay as they are.

Laugh away but that does not make things any less true.

Both parties are NOT declining. Such a supposition would REQUIRE that third party groups were coming in and taking up that vacuum. I don’t think there is anything to show that third parties are gaining any more voters let alone higher numbers in office. I would actually venture a guess that they are losing more than gaining.

In that manner, the national parties are in a direct relationship with their power. When one decreases the other increases, no matter how much we may want both to simply crumble already.

What I see happening is simple division. Republicans are taking local elections and democrats are taking national ones.
 
Gulags?

Was I spot on about the hyperbole or what?


As was I about your fear to engage on ideas.





You should know by now that I can always back up what I say.

Barack Obama was intimately involved with terrorists such as Bill Ayers...'Weatherman.'




During the heyday of the Weathermen, an FBI informant infiltrated.

In the following he describes conversations with these folks, in which they explain the need for gulags when they took over.

And extermination.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ]Larry Grathwohl on Ayers' plan for American re-education camps and the need to kill millions - YouTube[/ame]



Pay attention at 1:28 of the vid.

Tell us the one about he FEMA Death camps

Please?



So I proved my point.

Good.



Try to learn from that.
 
Gulags?

Was I spot on about the hyperbole or what?


As was I about your fear to engage on ideas.

Lets talk about the republican budget committee chairmen- Paul Ryan (R) basing his entire life on a a novelist whose work was average. :razz: You a Randian as well PoliChic?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand
Ayn Rand was a philandering, Russian atheist,[2] the author of vast doorstop-sized tomes like Atlas Shrugged and the ripped-off biography The Fountainhead, and other thick, boring books espousing, essentially, psychotic libertarian themes and ideology.

The drooling fans:
Generally, the work of Ms. Rand is hugely enjoyed by people with the literary sensitivities of 11 year olds who imagine they have fierce political sophistication. These people, due to their often-slavish devotion to Objectivist principles, are often called Randroids.
Alan Greenspan is known to be one. So is U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R - WI), who unfortunately is the chairman of the House Budget Committee ran for Vice President. Outsiders perceive them as greedy, callous wankers with economic OCD. Insiders know they are greedy, callous wankers with economic OCD.



What's your hurry to change the subject?
 
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As always democrats misjudge the intelligence of Americans who care about the Country. That's one of the reasons the DNC promoted the IRS criminal profiling of right wing political action organizations. The democrat party has been propped up by the liberal media since Clinton was playing doctor under his desk with Monica. Once the media support starts to erode the ugly bigoted criminal side of the democrat party starts to appear and it's ugly.
 

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