Supreme Court upholds Obamacare subsidies

[jknowgood]

Another freedom taken by the Obama administration.

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

 

[Freewill]

So we have to wait until a conservative is elected president in 2016, big deal.

The bill will get repealed, one way or another, period.

Too late

Its a done deal, especially since Republicans won't see the White House in the next twenty years

yeah Jake an Bush would never win a second term in the midst of an illegal war. And Obama wouldn't be handed the biggest loss in a mid-term in history. Yeah jake you are quite the prognosticator.

 

[hangover]

Once again the pettyness of Republicans trying to hurt 6 million Americans just so they can continue their hatred of Obama gets slapped down

Cons are losing the Civil war all over again.

 

[Statistikhengst]

The Right has lost on this issue - permanently.

Clinton will campaign mightily on this and she will win on this.

Until January 20th, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Pres. Obama can veto any bill that would try to dismantle Obamacare.

If Hillary is elected in 2016, then the same thing applies from 2017-2021.

If a Republican is elected, he will need a 60 seat Republican Senate to even get an Obamacare-repeal bill through.

And by then, this legislation will be so anchored into American life that you will not be able to uproot it.

This is a lot like the desperate fight against Social Security in the 1930s, a fight that the Right lost, miserably.

 

[ogibillm]

Another freedom taken by the Obama administration.

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

then don't buy it and pay the penalty. taxes are anti-freedom?

 

[Moonglow]

Tea Party hopes for as National disaster collapse....

many recalcitrants are known to be butthurt...breaking story

The bruise is yet again,,,deep....

 

[Statistikhengst]

The end of Scalia's Dissent. I could not agree more.

Perhaps the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will attain the enduring status of the Social Security Act or the Taft-Hartley Act; perhaps not. But this Court’s two decisions on the Act will surely be remembered through the years. The somersaults of statutory interpretation they have performed (“penalty” means tax, “further [Medicaid] payments to the State” means only incremental Medicaid payments to the State, “established by the State” means not established by the State) will be cited by litigants endlessly, to the confusion of honest jurisprudence. And the cases will publish forever the discouraging truth that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others, and is prepared to do whatever it takes to uphold and assist its favorites. I dissent.

Scalia is such an upset old drag queen.

 

[candycorn]

Another piss-poor decision from the Roberts court. They find ambiguity where none exists, then correct the ambiguity.

Scalia's dissenting opinion is dead-on.

 

[martybegan]

The end of Scalia's Dissent. I could not agree more.

Perhaps the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will attain the enduring status of the Social Security Act or the Taft-Hartley Act; perhaps not. But this Court’s two decisions on the Act will surely be remembered through the years. The somersaults of statutory interpretation they have performed (“penalty” means tax, “further [Medicaid] payments to the State” means only incremental Medicaid payments to the State, “established by the State” means not established by the State) will be cited by litigants endlessly, to the confusion of honest jurisprudence. And the cases will publish forever the discouraging truth that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others, and is prepared to do whatever it takes to uphold and assist its favorites. I dissent.

Scalia is such an upset old drag queen.

So, can't refute what he said, so right to the ad hominem.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Screenshots of today's ruling in the major media:

2015-06-025 media screenshots of the SCOTUS ACA ruling US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[candycorn]

Maybe this will take the left loon's minds off a flag for awhile....until some dope white woman comes out as black or some mental midget former Olympian decides he's a fake woman.

 

[Edgetho]

Trust me people, this is a MAJOR defeat for dimocraps.

They WANTED the ACA to go down because if it did, next up would be Socialized Medicine.

Believe it. I shit you not, this is a huge burden lifted off of Republicans

 

[Geaux4it]

Obamacare is least of our worries. America is in deep shit

-Geaux

 

[JakeStarkey]

What a relief. Anyone who understands the Constitution knows the decision was inevitable. Merge threads, please.

 

[hangover]

Another freedom taken by the Obama administration.

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

But you think denying healthcare to the poor is freedom?

 

[Statistikhengst]

The end of Scalia's Dissent. I could not agree more.

Perhaps the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will attain the enduring status of the Social Security Act or the Taft-Hartley Act; perhaps not. But this Court’s two decisions on the Act will surely be remembered through the years. The somersaults of statutory interpretation they have performed (“penalty” means tax, “further [Medicaid] payments to the State” means only incremental Medicaid payments to the State, “established by the State” means not established by the State) will be cited by litigants endlessly, to the confusion of honest jurisprudence. And the cases will publish forever the discouraging truth that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others, and is prepared to do whatever it takes to uphold and assist its favorites. I dissent.

Scalia is such an upset old drag queen.

So, can't refute what he said, so right to the ad hominem.

It's the same old tired argument that was used against Social Security,and you can see how that worked out.

So yes, Scalia, a mean old nasty son of a bitch, is nothing more than a worn out old drag queen.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Obamacare is least of our worries. America is in deep shit

-Geaux

Ahhhh, nice pivot!

 

[toxicmedia]

Another loss for conservatives trying to take away peoples healthcare

So basically if a law is big enough, and poorly written enough, it can't be overturned no matter how much the court realizes the wording was explicit to the States?

From the decision:

If the statutory language is plain, the Court must enforce it according to its terms. But oftentimes the meaning—or ambiguity—of certain words or phrases may only become evident when placed in context. So when deciding whether the language is plain, the Court must read the words “in their context and with a view to their place in the overall statutory scheme.”

So basically the Chief Justice stretched as much as he could to save the law, even though he knows they screwed up on the language.

Yep, they read the law, didn't like what it said so they said it said something else and that was what was meant. In other words they made law. The read the mind of those who wrote the law. Regardless of which side you are on one would think what is happening is bad for the country. But I think those who just love shoving crap down on people will think this is the best thing that ever happened, they win and we all lose.

It isn't going to happen but imagine if the SCOTUS rules 5-4 against gay marriage. What do you think those crowing today will say about the SCOTUS?

All due respect...that just sounds like the third stage of grieving...bargaining.

If a Republican beats Hillary, and congress stays red after 2016, you'll not once hear righties, possibly you as well, say the phrase "shoving crap down throats".

If it turn out that way, the GOP will be doing what our government does regardless of who's in charge, they will spend all the money we send them, and some more on top of that...only then, on things righties want, as opposed to things lefties want.

The concept of having things "crammed down somebody's throat"...is simply a demonization of what happens to the losers of an election, after the winners implement what they ran on.

Obama ran on Obamacare, and was reelected.

Right now I'm listening to Fox News, and they're all a mixed bag of the 2nd and 4th stages of grieving, anger, and depression.

Who elected the SCOTUS? I certainly don't remember that vote. Your whole posts sounds like the little kid that is happy they got what they wanted.

That's just the anger talking.

Congress was the one who voted, and passed the law. The SCOTUS ruled on challenges to it.

The challenger lost.

There are no demons here, but I'm listening to Karl Rove now, and his buck up speech includes a good strategy. He's already getting righties fired up about repealing Obamacare after 2016.

He's babbling a bit, like he's bargaining. Not as bad as election night 2012 on Fox, now that was funny..."Romney by a landslide"....hehe...good times, good times...but my concern isn't just a hobby. I work for a medical insurance company, and my company has itself, and me, so far out on a limb with Obamacare, undoing it would be catastrophic to my company and millions of America.

Righties are all about the idea of "right or wrong, you break it, you bought it" when defending the decision to g into Iraq, but not so much on post Obamacare healthcare in America.

 

[Geaux4it]

Another freedom taken by the Obama administration.

which freedom is that?

Forcing someone to buy something isn't freedom.

then don't buy it and pay the penalty. taxes are anti-freedom?

You mean, pay the fine

-Geaux

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Maybe this will take the left loon's minds off a flag for awhile....until some dope white woman comes out as black or some mental midget former Olympian decides he's a fake woman.

Dude, stop bothering me.....and wipe that nasty "O" ring from around your mouth