Sure I burned their bodies but ...Stand Your Ground defense!

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SC man who shot and ’slow-cooked’ two men out on bail thanks to ‘stand your ground’ law

Dead men have no defense....

FTA: James Edward Loftis, 39, is facing murder charges in the deaths of taxi driver Guma Oz Dubar, 46, and his friend James Cody Newland, 32, on March 5 after they demanded he pay his fare following a ride home from a strip club.

While Loftis has given police varying accounts of what happened that evening — once saying he invited the men in, while another time saying they barged into his home — several facts are not in dispute.

Loftis admitted that he shot both men before dragging their bodies outside his house, where he placed them in a shallow grave and set them on fire along with his bloody clothes before burying them.

“They were essentially just slow-cooked inside the grave site,” Deputy Solicitor Bryan Alfaro said during the bail hearing.

Conceding that what Loftis did was “heinous,” his attorney defended his client saying he was within his rights to defend himself in his own home under the state’s “stand your ground” laws.

“He’s a human being,” Stephen Harris said. “He freaked out and thought he was going to prison, so he tried to hide the bodies. Nobody knows how you’re going to react when you kill two people.”

Circuit Judge Markley Dennis agreed to allow Loftis to post $250,000 bail, saying his choice of the defense makes him less of a flight risk.


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They can't prove he didn't fear for his life :dunno:

Murder is mostly legal in America these days in certain states and with the right lawyer.
 
He murdered two guys because he didn't want to pay his fare but

“He’s a human being,” Stephen Harris said. “He freaked out and thought he was going to prison, so he tried to hide the bodies. Nobody knows how you’re going to react when you kill two people.”

Awwwww ... poor guy.

I want to know if the guys he murdered were black. If so, he'll get off. Bet on it.
 
He need to claim " Stand your Ground " and " Affluenza " and all will be alright in the strange bizarro world...
 
They can't prove he didn't fear for his life :dunno:

Murder is mostly legal in America these days in certain states and with the right lawyer.
but they cant prove he cant either.
Tell me, how do you feel about releasing terrorists from gitmo?
 
He should AT LEAST face charges of messing with a dead body crime scene whatever.
 
They can't prove he didn't fear for his life :dunno:

Murder is mostly legal in America these days in certain states and with the right lawyer.
but they cant prove he cant either.
Tell me, how do you feel about releasing terrorists from gitmo?
They don't need to.

If the terrorists had committed their crimes in certain states, they could have claimed they were in fear of their life. And sell paintings for money to conservatives on ebay.
 
Tbey did force their way into his home with the intent to take money.

He won't be found guilty of murder. But because he tampered with the crime scene....manslaughter is almost guaranteed.
 
SC man who shot and ’slow-cooked’ two men out on bail thanks to ‘stand your ground’ law

Dead men have no defense....

FTA: James Edward Loftis, 39, is facing murder charges in the deaths of taxi driver Guma Oz Dubar, 46, and his friend James Cody Newland, 32, on March 5 after they demanded he pay his fare following a ride home from a strip club.

While Loftis has given police varying accounts of what happened that evening — once saying he invited the men in, while another time saying they barged into his home — several facts are not in dispute.

Loftis admitted that he shot both men before dragging their bodies outside his house, where he placed them in a shallow grave and set them on fire along with his bloody clothes before burying them.

“They were essentially just slow-cooked inside the grave site,” Deputy Solicitor Bryan Alfaro said during the bail hearing.

Conceding that what Loftis did was “heinous,” his attorney defended his client saying he was within his rights to defend himself in his own home under the state’s “stand your ground” laws.

“He’s a human being,” Stephen Harris said. “He freaked out and thought he was going to prison, so he tried to hide the bodies. Nobody knows how you’re going to react when you kill two people.”

Circuit Judge Markley Dennis agreed to allow Loftis to post $250,000 bail, saying his choice of the defense makes him less of a flight risk.


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Where exactly does stand your ground come into this? Please....explain in detail. You do realize that if he shot these guys in his home...Stand Your Ground would not be the defense......but please....don't let facts, the truth or reality ruin your lying thread........
 
SC man who shot and ’slow-cooked’ two men out on bail thanks to ‘stand your ground’ law

Dead men have no defense....

FTA: James Edward Loftis, 39, is facing murder charges in the deaths of taxi driver Guma Oz Dubar, 46, and his friend James Cody Newland, 32, on March 5 after they demanded he pay his fare following a ride home from a strip club.

While Loftis has given police varying accounts of what happened that evening — once saying he invited the men in, while another time saying they barged into his home — several facts are not in dispute.

Loftis admitted that he shot both men before dragging their bodies outside his house, where he placed them in a shallow grave and set them on fire along with his bloody clothes before burying them.

“They were essentially just slow-cooked inside the grave site,” Deputy Solicitor Bryan Alfaro said during the bail hearing.

Conceding that what Loftis did was “heinous,” his attorney defended his client saying he was within his rights to defend himself in his own home under the state’s “stand your ground” laws.

“He’s a human being,” Stephen Harris said. “He freaked out and thought he was going to prison, so he tried to hide the bodies. Nobody knows how you’re going to react when you kill two people.”

Circuit Judge Markley Dennis agreed to allow Loftis to post $250,000 bail, saying his choice of the defense makes him less of a flight risk.


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Where exactly does stand your ground come into this? Please....explain in detail. You do realize that if he shot these guys in his home...Stand Your Ground would not be the defense......but please....don't let facts, the truth or reality ruin your lying thread........


You're saying his lawyer is lying or this story isnt true?
 
SC man who shot and ’slow-cooked’ two men out on bail thanks to ‘stand your ground’ law

Dead men have no defense....

FTA: James Edward Loftis, 39, is facing murder charges in the deaths of taxi driver Guma Oz Dubar, 46, and his friend James Cody Newland, 32, on March 5 after they demanded he pay his fare following a ride home from a strip club.

While Loftis has given police varying accounts of what happened that evening — once saying he invited the men in, while another time saying they barged into his home — several facts are not in dispute.

Loftis admitted that he shot both men before dragging their bodies outside his house, where he placed them in a shallow grave and set them on fire along with his bloody clothes before burying them.

“They were essentially just slow-cooked inside the grave site,” Deputy Solicitor Bryan Alfaro said during the bail hearing.

Conceding that what Loftis did was “heinous,” his attorney defended his client saying he was within his rights to defend himself in his own home under the state’s “stand your ground” laws.

“He’s a human being,” Stephen Harris said. “He freaked out and thought he was going to prison, so he tried to hide the bodies. Nobody knows how you’re going to react when you kill two people.”

Circuit Judge Markley Dennis agreed to allow Loftis to post $250,000 bail, saying his choice of the defense makes him less of a flight risk.


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Where exactly does stand your ground come into this? Please....explain in detail. You do realize that if he shot these guys in his home...Stand Your Ground would not be the defense......but please....don't let facts, the truth or reality ruin your lying thread........


You're saying his lawyer is lying or this story isnt true?
Is it Wednesday?
 
SC man who shot and ’slow-cooked’ two men out on bail thanks to ‘stand your ground’ law

Dead men have no defense....

FTA: James Edward Loftis, 39, is facing murder charges in the deaths of taxi driver Guma Oz Dubar, 46, and his friend James Cody Newland, 32, on March 5 after they demanded he pay his fare following a ride home from a strip club.

While Loftis has given police varying accounts of what happened that evening — once saying he invited the men in, while another time saying they barged into his home — several facts are not in dispute.

Loftis admitted that he shot both men before dragging their bodies outside his house, where he placed them in a shallow grave and set them on fire along with his bloody clothes before burying them.

“They were essentially just slow-cooked inside the grave site,” Deputy Solicitor Bryan Alfaro said during the bail hearing.

Conceding that what Loftis did was “heinous,” his attorney defended his client saying he was within his rights to defend himself in his own home under the state’s “stand your ground” laws.

“He’s a human being,” Stephen Harris said. “He freaked out and thought he was going to prison, so he tried to hide the bodies. Nobody knows how you’re going to react when you kill two people.”

Circuit Judge Markley Dennis agreed to allow Loftis to post $250,000 bail, saying his choice of the defense makes him less of a flight risk.


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Where exactly does stand your ground come into this? Please....explain in detail. You do realize that if he shot these guys in his home...Stand Your Ground would not be the defense......but please....don't let facts, the truth or reality ruin your lying thread........


You're saying his lawyer is lying or this story isnt true?


If you shoot someone in your home it is not a Stand Your Ground defense.....it would be the Castle Doctrine......

Yes...the lawyer is wrong...not every lawyer understands self defense law....even in the Zimmerman case it wasn't a stand your ground case since he could not retreat......even though it was in a public space.
 

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