Taliban has entered Kabul and the Afghan president has fled the country .

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Lol, the Taliban will fuck them up.

Let the Chinese waste money and resources there for a while. We've done enough.

Correct.

The rapid collapse of the Afghan government and military is proof that Afghanistan was making no effort to become self-sufficient; that American support would be forever needed – an absolutely untenable position.

 

[Godboy]

So you contend that there would have been no collapse under Trump? What would he have done differently?

Trump wouldnt have pulled everyone out. Once Biden declared he was doing that, it was game over. He did it because democrats think troops abroad are a bad thing. His military advisors undoubtedly told him this would happen, but he rolled the dice anyway.

Biden is a fucking fool and you people are fools for voting him into office. Your loony political beliefs just unleashed horrors on millions of people.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How would Trump's withdrawal have had a different outcome from Biden's?

It wouldn’t.

Or if Obama had withdrawn troops.

Indeed, this was a failure from the very outset – which is why whatever happens is the sole blame and responsibility of George W. Bush.

 

[Crepitus]

With the exception of Tibet, all of those examples are people inside of China. China has the right to do what they want with Chinese people.

Goddamn, that's a really fucked up attitude.

So your ok with rounding up the antivaxers, antimaskers, and tRumplings for concentration camps then? After all, they're all inside America and we have the right to do what we want to with them.

 

[Desperado]

This tragic, failed effort at ‘nation-building’ is coming to an end.

The question is: have the American people finally learned an important lesson, to never make such a mistake again.

I would hopefully think that would be the case but I would not bet on it

 

[Crepitus]

Trump wouldnt have pulled everyone out.

It was tRump who promised the Afghanis that we would do exactly that. You kids are all blaming this on the Biden Administration bit it all started under tRump. Unless you go back to the beginning and it started under Bush.

Biden faces Trump's deadline on Afghanistan troop withdrawal: 'Any way you cut it, we are headed for a messy outcome'

U.S. troops have been in Afghanistan two decades. Will they be out by May 1?

www.usatoday.com

 

[Natural Citizen]

It was tRump who promised the Afghanis that we would do exactly that. You kids are all blaming this on the Biden Administration bit it all started under tRump. Unless you go back to the beginning and it started under Bush.

Biden faces Trump's deadline on Afghanistan troop withdrawal: 'Any way you cut it, we are headed for a messy outcome'

U.S. troops have been in Afghanistan two decades. Will they be out by May 1?

www.usatoday.com

Well the Biden administration didn't have any problem overturning the Iran thing. Or the Keystone thing. And a couple other things which escape me at the moment.

You should likely stick to your usual empty one-liners, winger.

Intellect simply isn't your thing.

BOOM! goes the dynamite, every time you try.

 

[toobfreak]

things are going south rapidly in Afghanistan .... Afghanistan president, Ashraf Ghani, reported to have left country as Taliban orders fighters to enter Kabul – live

I just spent the morning watching CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox show after show go on about how Biddum made his foreign policy experience the cornerstone of his campaign! Yet it has unraveled as an epic disaster instead, the latest of which was his Administration's estimates of how long his US trained Afghan government could hold up has utterly collapse instead now to where the whole country is now imploding far faster than even their fastest estimates! Which means that either they were totally incompetent in their understanding and intelligence or they simply LIED to us.

And the thousands and thousands of people who had given aid or worked with the USA all fleeing , their lives in grave danger.

ITMT, the US has umpteen zillion dollars invested in training the Afghan military and government and it has all been wasted, for naught---- all falling apart, imploding with a concussive bang, so fast so that now the US must flee its own embassy as the USA hands a 20 year old Christmas gift to the Taliban as our allies and enemies look on watching.

 

[Sunni Man]

so who will the next puppet be?.....

There won't be a puppet president.
He will be decided by the Afghan people. ...

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh, is this funny to you? Is the horror to be visited upon so many people there a source of humor to you? I know leftists don't give a shit about human life, so maybe you are enjoying all this.

Republicans who oppose Americans getting vaccinated parading on political forums about Afghan plight are hard to take. Sorry.

 

[shockedcanadian]

pffft! LOL! Tiananmen Square? That was an armed revolt? China has 1.4B people. How many party members do you think there are? I will tell you, 95M. Military? (10M including reserves) Police? (300K)...Come on now...critical thinking time. Military aged males and females? 400M?

Further...why do you think policies changed so drastically AFTER Tiananmen? Hmmmmmm? hmmmmmmmm?

No, that's the point. The CCP have celebrated 100 years of control for a reason. You think a few rabble rousers can get the Chinese citizens to rise in unison against the Party?

Now with technology, it's far more difficult today than it was 30 years ago, and the prospects of a revolt weren't very good then either.

I will say this, without Western money, the CCP would have an exponentially more difficult time. Even now, most citizens accept their plight, but they don't buy what the CCP is selling. They are just realists. It's why a Western face sells products in China, their citizens trust them more.

 

[Crepitus]

Well the Biden administration didn't have any problem overturning the Iran thing. Or the Keystone thing. And a couple other things which escape me at the moment.

You should likely stick to your usual empty one-liners, winger.

Intellect simply isn't your thing.

BOOM! goes the dynamite, every time you try.

So, you'd rather just stick with your fantasy that this is all Joe Biden's fault?

It's not. Not only is this the deal tRump "negotiated" he also released all the fighters that are currently overrunning the country.

So what it actually is is another tRump disaster for Joe Biden to deal with.

 

[Synthaholic]

Nuke them. Kill them all. Taliban soldiers, families, pigs and goats. Send a message to the world. Mess with us....you die.

Well, definitely the Taliban soldiers. But Bush set the terms of this war, and that did not include "kill the enemy".

 

[Crepitus]

Republicans who oppose Americans getting vaccinated parading on political forums about Afghan plight are hard to take. Sorry.

What they are is massive hypocrites.

 

[Natural Citizen]

So, you'd rather just stick with your fantasy that this is all Joe Biden's fault?

It's not. Not only is this the deal tRump "negotiated" he also released all the fighters that are currently overrunning the country.

So what it actually is is another tRump disaster for Joe Biden to deal with.

 

[Unkotare]

....
He will be decided by the Afghan people. ...

Bad time for jokes like that.

 

[Synthaholic]

Trump didn't set up Afghan to be taken over by the terrorists---Biden (XI's puppet) did.

He wanted to invite them to the WH for a 9/11 sleepover while he announced their takeover of the country.

How fucking stupid are you, anyway?

 

[Unkotare]

Republicans who oppose Americans getting vaccinated parading on political forums about Afghan plight are hard to take.

Go talk to them or stay on topic or shut the fuck up.

 

[Crepitus]

Yup, that's about the usual success rate when discussing things with dumbassed tRumplings.

 

[Synthaholic]

Go talk to them or stay on topic or shut the fuck up.

I'm talking to you. You are a Republican.