Tea Party is the biggest threat to the GOP

Only in your wet dreams.

But you keep dreaming.

It won't be as good as it is now.

I know people (part of that 10 million you claim are being helped and would vote to keep it) who were forced onto it when their plans were cancelled (and you can spare me the junk plan bulls**t) who have no intention of voting to keep it.

It is unpopular for good reason and it is getting more unpopular.

Most of the uninsured were there by choice. Healthmyths clearly demonstrated that in a thread you morons wouldn't touch.

Our system left 5 to 10 million who wanted insurance and could not get it. That needed to be fixed. Obamacare leaves roughly the same.

Great job. You can be proud of something that was a bigger loser than the Titanic.

Why don't Republicans run on cancelling peoples insurance then? Everyone on Obamacare has an option of getting a policy from the private sector, very few do

Better yet, why don't Republicans let us in on their grand plan of replacing Obamacare?


the truth is that we are probably stuck with the POS law called ACA. So get ready to stand in line america. Get ready to wait 6 months or a year for treatment, get ready to die waiting for an appointment. Because that is what obama and the libs have given us.

Not really
We can always work to make it better. Why won't Republicans do that?


they have already tried. In case you forgot, no GOP amendments were allowed to come to a vote during the ACA congressional process, the dems wrote and passed the bill without anyone knowing what it contained, not one republican voted for it. The dems own it.

since it was passed, the house has passed several bills to amend it, but they are sitting on Reid's desk. Obama refuses to discuss any revisions to it.

Why isn't it being improved???? is that your question? because obama and the dems refuse to discuss or vote on any improvements.

That is far from the truth. GOP participation was encouraged throughout the process. Obama even asked what could be added so they would support the bill. They replied to a man, tear it up and start over

Same offer stands...Obamacare is here to stay
What can Republicans offer to make it better?

Republicans have voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. How many votes have they had to improve it?


there was no discussion with the GOP on the ACA bill, there was no open floor debate in either house. You are lying once again.

that law is such a disaster that the best thing would be to repeal it and start over with a bill that was actually aimed at helping fix the few problems that existed. There was no healthcare crisis. Anyone who makes that claim is either lying or dumb as a dead snail
 
the truth is that we are probably stuck with the POS law called ACA. So get ready to stand in line america. Get ready to wait 6 months or a year for treatment, get ready to die waiting for an appointment. Because that is what obama and the libs have given us.

Not really
We can always work to make it better. Why won't Republicans do that?


they have already tried. In case you forgot, no GOP amendments were allowed to come to a vote during the ACA congressional process, the dems wrote and passed the bill without anyone knowing what it contained, not one republican voted for it. The dems own it.

since it was passed, the house has passed several bills to amend it, but they are sitting on Reid's desk. Obama refuses to discuss any revisions to it.

Why isn't it being improved???? is that your question? because obama and the dems refuse to discuss or vote on any improvements.

That is far from the truth. GOP participation was encouraged throughout the process. Obama even asked what could be added so they would support the bill. They replied to a man, tear it up and start over

Same offer stands...Obamacare is here to stay
What can Republicans offer to make it better?

Republicans have voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. How many votes have they had to improve it?

Want to make it better....

Get rid of it.
Ok let's do that

10 million people now do not have insurance. Healthcare exchanges are closed. People with prexisting conditions now must shop the open market

What do Republicans do next?


listen carefully, read this slowly

NOT HAVING INSURANCE DOES NOT MEAN YOU DID NOT GET TREATMENT. NO ONE WAS DENIED MEDICAL CARE BEFORE OBAMACARE. NO ONE.
 
the truth is that we are probably stuck with the POS law called ACA. So get ready to stand in line america. Get ready to wait 6 months or a year for treatment, get ready to die waiting for an appointment. Because that is what obama and the libs have given us.

Not really
We can always work to make it better. Why won't Republicans do that?


they have already tried. In case you forgot, no GOP amendments were allowed to come to a vote during the ACA congressional process, the dems wrote and passed the bill without anyone knowing what it contained, not one republican voted for it. The dems own it.

since it was passed, the house has passed several bills to amend it, but they are sitting on Reid's desk. Obama refuses to discuss any revisions to it.

Why isn't it being improved???? is that your question? because obama and the dems refuse to discuss or vote on any improvements.

That is far from the truth. GOP participation was encouraged throughout the process. Obama even asked what could be added so they would support the bill. They replied to a man, tear it up and start over

Same offer stands...Obamacare is here to stay
What can Republicans offer to make it better?

Republicans have voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. How many votes have they had to improve it?

Want to make it better....

Get rid of it.
Ok let's do that

10 million people now do not have insurance. Healthcare exchanges are closed. People with prexisting conditions now must shop the open market

What do Republicans do next?


REPEAL IT, LET THE FREE MARKET HANDLE IT.

It is not the government's responsibility to make sure you have your adult diapers and hire someone to change them for you.
 
Why don't Republicans run on cancelling peoples insurance then? Everyone on Obamacare has an option of getting a policy from the private sector, very few do

Better yet, why don't Republicans let us in on their grand plan of replacing Obamacare?


the truth is that we are probably stuck with the POS law called ACA. So get ready to stand in line america. Get ready to wait 6 months or a year for treatment, get ready to die waiting for an appointment. Because that is what obama and the libs have given us.

Not really
We can always work to make it better. Why won't Republicans do that?


they have already tried. In case you forgot, no GOP amendments were allowed to come to a vote during the ACA congressional process, the dems wrote and passed the bill without anyone knowing what it contained, not one republican voted for it. The dems own it.

since it was passed, the house has passed several bills to amend it, but they are sitting on Reid's desk. Obama refuses to discuss any revisions to it.

Why isn't it being improved???? is that your question? because obama and the dems refuse to discuss or vote on any improvements.

That is far from the truth. GOP participation was encouraged throughout the process. Obama even asked what could be added so they would support the bill. They replied to a man, tear it up and start over

Same offer stands...Obamacare is here to stay
What can Republicans offer to make it better?

Republicans have voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. How many votes have they had to improve it?


there was no discussion with the GOP on the ACA bill, there was no open floor debate in either house. You are lying once again.

that law is such a disaster that the best thing would be to repeal it and start over with a bill that was actually aimed at helping fix the few problems that existed. There was no healthcare crisis. Anyone who makes that claim is either lying or dumb as a dead snail
Of course there was. Remember Olypia Snowe? The Republican who was driven out of the party for daring to talk healthcare with the Dems? Republicans boycotted all discussions and refused to agree on anything

Their plan was the same as it was in 1992. Delay, delay, delay and wait until you have the votes to permanently block healthcare
 
Not really
We can always work to make it better. Why won't Republicans do that?


they have already tried. In case you forgot, no GOP amendments were allowed to come to a vote during the ACA congressional process, the dems wrote and passed the bill without anyone knowing what it contained, not one republican voted for it. The dems own it.

since it was passed, the house has passed several bills to amend it, but they are sitting on Reid's desk. Obama refuses to discuss any revisions to it.

Why isn't it being improved???? is that your question? because obama and the dems refuse to discuss or vote on any improvements.

That is far from the truth. GOP participation was encouraged throughout the process. Obama even asked what could be added so they would support the bill. They replied to a man, tear it up and start over

Same offer stands...Obamacare is here to stay
What can Republicans offer to make it better?

Republicans have voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. How many votes have they had to improve it?

Want to make it better....

Get rid of it.
Ok let's do that

10 million people now do not have insurance. Healthcare exchanges are closed. People with prexisting conditions now must shop the open market

What do Republicans do next?


REPEAL IT, LET THE FREE MARKET HANDLE IT.

It is not the government's responsibility to make sure you have your adult diapers and hire someone to change them for you.
That's it?

Tell 10 million people to go fuck themselves?
 
"Tea Party is the biggest threat to the GOP"

The failed, reckless fiscal policies advocated by the TPM is the biggest threat to the American economy. The credit rating downgrade and the government shutdown are proof of that.

 
Not really
We can always work to make it better. Why won't Republicans do that?


they have already tried. In case you forgot, no GOP amendments were allowed to come to a vote during the ACA congressional process, the dems wrote and passed the bill without anyone knowing what it contained, not one republican voted for it. The dems own it.

since it was passed, the house has passed several bills to amend it, but they are sitting on Reid's desk. Obama refuses to discuss any revisions to it.

Why isn't it being improved???? is that your question? because obama and the dems refuse to discuss or vote on any improvements.

That is far from the truth. GOP participation was encouraged throughout the process. Obama even asked what could be added so they would support the bill. They replied to a man, tear it up and start over

Same offer stands...Obamacare is here to stay
What can Republicans offer to make it better?

Republicans have voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. How many votes have they had to improve it?

Want to make it better....

Get rid of it.
Ok let's do that

10 million people now do not have insurance. Healthcare exchanges are closed. People with prexisting conditions now must shop the open market

What do Republicans do next?


listen carefully, read this slowly

NOT HAVING INSURANCE DOES NOT MEAN YOU DID NOT GET TREATMENT. NO ONE WAS DENIED MEDICAL CARE BEFORE OBAMACARE. NO ONE.


no, they weren't denied medical care before the ACA, now insurance companies pick up the bills less deductibles, NOT taxpayers paying for county hospital services ... apparently idiots like you prefer the latter.
 
Redfish said:

“Let the free market handle it.”

We tried that, and the 'free market' failed miserably – the consequence of that failure was millions of Americans with no access to affordable healthcare.

This is one of many problems with the authoritarian right: their blind, slavish adherence to failed fiscal and political dogma, where instead an objective, pragmatic approach predicated on the facts is best, blending the best of the public and private sectors based on what's proven to work.
 
Redfish said:

“Let the free market handle it.”

We tried that, and the 'free market' failed miserably – the consequence of that failure was millions of Americans with no access to affordable healthcare.

This is one of many problems with the authoritarian right: their blind, slavish adherence to failed fiscal and political dogma, where instead an objective, pragmatic approach predicated on the facts is best, blending the best of the public and private sectors based on what's proven to work.
Why must you continue to lie
 
It isn't the Democrats, it's the Tea Party. GOP's been co-opted by stupid people.
It is not just the Tea Party, but the rightwing media that keeps Republicans in check and punishes those who dare to compromise with the left


So tell me something bed wetter...

Who's the maverick in the democrook party?

Who's that distinguished non-partisan democrook who's praised in the media for bucking Whory Reid and reaching across the isle to defend the unborn, protect the 1st and 2nd Amendment, lower taxes, roll back obozocare, reduce regulation or secure the border? Who is that heroic democrook veteran that is verbally abused by the spokesmen of liberalism?

THERE AREN'T ANY, because you statist sociopaths wouldn't allow them to exist let alone compromise with us. You don't want compromise, you want to win, period. Even when we did "compromise", you assholes immediately came back after the half you "gave up" in order to reach the compromise.

Well I say FUCK COMPROMISE. The bottom line is the libtard democrooks ARE WRONG. "Compromising" with them only ensures we're never more than half right. We've given away far too much of our wealth and freedoms to support the chains of dependency and statism. It's time we rolled back liberal bullshit, no compromise, just reverse it.
 
It isn't the Democrats, it's the Tea Party. GOP's been co-opted by stupid people.
It is not just the Tea Party, but the rightwing media that keeps Republicans in check and punishes those who dare to compromise with the left


So tell me something bed wetter...

Who's the maverick in the democrook party?

Who's that distinguished non-partisan democrook who's praised in the media for bucking Whory Reid and reaching across the isle to defend the unborn, protect the 1st and 2nd Amendment, lower taxes, roll back obozocare, reduce regulation or secure the border? Who is that heroic democrook veteran that is verbally abused by the spokesmen of liberalism?

THERE AREN'T ANY, because you statist sociopaths wouldn't allow them to exist let alone compromise with us. You don't want compromise, you want to win, period. Even when we did "compromise", you assholes immediately came back after the half you "gave up" in order to reach the compromise.

Well I say FUCK COMPROMISE. The bottom line is the libtard democrooks ARE WRONG. "Compromising" with them only ensures we're never more than half right. We've given away far too much of our wealth and freedoms to support the chains of dependency and statism. It's time we rolled back liberal bullshit, no compromise, just reverse it.


VOTE LIBERTARIAN !!! KILL THE GOP DEAD IN ITS TRACKS!1

LAMO.
 
It isn't the Democrats, it's the Tea Party. GOP's been co-opted by stupid people.
It is not just the Tea Party, but the rightwing media that keeps Republicans in check and punishes those who dare to compromise with the left


So tell me something bed wetter...

Who's the maverick in the democrook party?

Who's that distinguished non-partisan democrook who's praised in the media for bucking Whory Reid and reaching across the isle to defend the unborn, protect the 1st and 2nd Amendment, lower taxes, roll back obozocare, reduce regulation or secure the border? Who is that heroic democrook veteran that is verbally abused by the spokesmen of liberalism?

THERE AREN'T ANY, because you statist sociopaths wouldn't allow them to exist let alone compromise with us. You don't want compromise, you want to win, period. Even when we did "compromise", you assholes immediately came back after the half you "gave up" in order to reach the compromise.

Well I say FUCK COMPROMISE. The bottom line is the libtard democrooks ARE WRONG. "Compromising" with them only ensures we're never more than half right. We've given away far too much of our wealth and freedoms to support the chains of dependency and statism. It's time we rolled back liberal bullshit, no compromise, just reverse it.
Even when you post in blue, I realize you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about
 
Redfish said:

“Let the free market handle it.”

We tried that, and the 'free market' failed miserably – the consequence of that failure was millions of Americans with no access to affordable healthcare.

This is one of many problems with the authoritarian right: their blind, slavish adherence to failed fiscal and political dogma, where instead an objective, pragmatic approach predicated on the facts is best, blending the best of the public and private sectors based on what's proven to work.

Saul;

Are you trying to fool people into thinking that your sentient, and can carry on a conversation with humans? :eek:
 
they have already tried. In case you forgot, no GOP amendments were allowed to come to a vote during the ACA congressional process, the dems wrote and passed the bill without anyone knowing what it contained, not one republican voted for it. The dems own it.

since it was passed, the house has passed several bills to amend it, but they are sitting on Reid's desk. Obama refuses to discuss any revisions to it.

Why isn't it being improved???? is that your question? because obama and the dems refuse to discuss or vote on any improvements.

That is far from the truth. GOP participation was encouraged throughout the process. Obama even asked what could be added so they would support the bill. They replied to a man, tear it up and start over

Same offer stands...Obamacare is here to stay
What can Republicans offer to make it better?

Republicans have voted over 50 times to repeal Obamacare. How many votes have they had to improve it?

Want to make it better....

Get rid of it.
Ok let's do that

10 million people now do not have insurance. Healthcare exchanges are closed. People with prexisting conditions now must shop the open market

What do Republicans do next?


listen carefully, read this slowly

NOT HAVING INSURANCE DOES NOT MEAN YOU DID NOT GET TREATMENT. NO ONE WAS DENIED MEDICAL CARE BEFORE OBAMACARE. NO ONE.


no, they weren't denied medical care before the ACA, now insurance companies pick up the bills less deductibles, NOT taxpayers paying for county hospital services ... apparently idiots like you prefer the latter.
Millions of Americans were denied health maintenance, routine screenings and checkups they couldn't afford because they had no health insurance, screenings and checkups mostly not available at the ER. Indeed, it was when relatively minor health issues would become serious because of no access to health maintenance that low income Americans were compelled to go to the ER, where that treatment was more expensive as a result and the cost was shouldered by the hospitals and passed on to patients.

It was a bad, broken, costly, and wasteful 'system,' an untenable 'system' most on the right ignorantly seek to return to.
 
Millions of Americans were denied health maintenance, routine screenings and checkups they couldn't afford because they had no health insurance, screenings and checkups mostly not available at the ER. Indeed, it was when relatively minor health issues would become serious because of no access to health maintenance that low income Americans were compelled to go to the ER, where that treatment was more expensive as a result and the cost was shouldered by the hospitals and passed on to patients.

It was a bad, broken, costly, and wasteful 'system,' an untenable 'system' most on the right ignorantly seek to return to.

That's because as bad as it was, Obama's Fascist Care is far worse.
 
if the dems had any sense they'd all vote for a libertarian candidate and oust all the old republicans that have been living in congress for two decades, then oust the crazy ass libertarians next election

the right wing politicians are fighting each other and getting pretty busy at it.

United they stand, divided they fall.
 

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