Teenager Who Has Been Dating Her Father For Two Years Reveals The Pair Are Planning To Get Married..

[JFK_USA]

"The defenders of homo marriage said it couldn't happen, yet here it is:"

Yet here's another example of the bigotry and stupidity common to many on the right.

So we should support incestuous marriages?

Marriage is dead.

Time to just get over it and move on.

The pervs have won on all fronts.

Buy some land, secede.

Only way to stay semi-sane.

Oh okay, you got tanks, F-18s, nuclear weapons? Well, good luck.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Actually we are hard wired to be attracted to our parents and our siblings, And we learn boundaries growing up together. Thus not usually an incestuous problem.

 

[Clementine]

delta E wants to replace the Ten Commandments with..."whatevvvverrrrr!"

He's one creepy person. he always shows up promoting this sick stuff. I'm thinking he's a very sick demented guy

And, apparently, he teaches this stuff to teens. That is just as creepy as the dad marrying his little girl. Yuck!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

So if the core argument against incest depends on the genetic consequences of inbreeding,

what's the core argument against same sex marriages again??

Eh?

How many years before it can sink in? Mankind, for reasons obvious to most toddlers, has valued the special relationships between male and female. Men and women have different characteristics, they bring different aspects to the table and together are more complete than the whole of two separately.

My mom was different than my dad. Same with every other kid I knew. The gay marriage advocates pretend this is news to them, never heard of it before and mankind has for some mysterious hateful intolerant reason banned homosexual marriages, in religious and secular cultures alike.

It's like talking to retards.

That's not a rational argument against same sex marriage because what your family did or does has nothing to do with what some same sex couple somewhere else does.

gay marriage is an oxymoron. two men or two woman cannot create a marriage. they should be able to legally commit to each other and have "couple" rights, but their union is not a marriage.

see, thats the problem with you libs, you claim this about rights and not discriminating, but its really about forcing societal acceptance of an abnormal human condition as normal by government dictate. If it was really about equality and rights you would not be so hung up on the word 'marriage'.

Homosexuality is no more abnormal than being a Presbyterian is.

OK, sure. Human beings were designed with reproductive organs and sexual identites for no purpose? Of course homosexuality is abnormal, so is being bi polar or having MS. They are mental and/or physical disorders. We do not shun or disparage those with mental or physical disorders, but neither to we declare them normal

99% of all human sexual activity occurs for non-reproductive reasons. Does that make us all abnormal? We can't all be abnormal can we?

The couple who only ever has sex when they're trying to reproduce and refrains from any sex for any other purpose,

THEY would be abnormal.

 

[NYcarbineer]

There is no absolute definition for marriage. There is no copyright on the word.

Just as there is no definition of "speeding". It could mean going too slow, standing still, peanut butter or cheetahs. Who are you to say?

"Your honor, I wasn't speeding, I was Peanut Butter!"...

"...Well, why didn't you say so in the first place? Cast dismissed!.." *Bang!*

Worst analogy ever since we do set speed limits.

Marriage can be whatever the People decide it should be. Homosexuals have been getting married for thousands of years, whether governments or churches recognized those marriages or not.

 

[Iceweasel]

1. Christian pastors aren't forced to marry anyone.
2. Incest isn't the same as homosexuality when it comes to marriage - there's a valid argument that it is damaging.

But one or both could be sterilized. There goes that argument. You can't use a moral argument either, so what's left?

What's left is, in my opinion - more important. A parent is in a position of authority and trust, always. I'm an adult - but I'm always a daughter to my parents. The relationship of a parent to a child is easily abused because of that trust. For example, most child abusers are close family members and children are frequently conflicted about reporting it - even when they become adults they are reluctant to report it. If a mother or father acted in such a way as to encourage a sexual relationship that is an abuse of that trust and authority. I don't see how that can be a healthy relationship for the child and it's certainly an abuse of the parent's role. You could make a better argument for siblings to marry.

So you presented a moral argument. Many male/female relationships are out of balance, and in fact, women used to be considered not much more than property. The bottom line is that you can't claim morality can't be imposed by others then turn around and impose your own morality.

 

[ChrisL]

1. Christian pastors aren't forced to marry anyone.
2. Incest isn't the same as homosexuality when it comes to marriage - there's a valid argument that it is damaging.

But one or both could be sterilized. There goes that argument. You can't use a moral argument either, so what's left?

What's left is, in my opinion - more important. A parent is in a position of authority and trust, always. I'm an adult - but I'm always a daughter to my parents. The relationship of a parent to a child is easily abused because of that trust. For example, most child abusers are close family members and children are frequently conflicted about reporting it - even when they become adults they are reluctant to report it. If a mother or father acted in such a way as to encourage a sexual relationship that is an abuse of that trust and authority. I don't see how that can be a healthy relationship for the child and it's certainly an abuse of the parent's role. You could make a better argument for siblings to marry.

So you presented a moral argument. Many male/female relationships are out of balance, and in fact, women used to be considered not much more than property. The bottom line is that you can't claim morality can't be imposed by others then turn around and impose your own morality.

I disagree, if only because of the potential abuse being or having been involved in a parent/child sexual relationship.

 

[Iceweasel]

1. Christian pastors aren't forced to marry anyone.
2. Incest isn't the same as homosexuality when it comes to marriage - there's a valid argument that it is damaging.

But one or both could be sterilized. There goes that argument. You can't use a moral argument either, so what's left?

What's left is, in my opinion - more important. A parent is in a position of authority and trust, always. I'm an adult - but I'm always a daughter to my parents. The relationship of a parent to a child is easily abused because of that trust. For example, most child abusers are close family members and children are frequently conflicted about reporting it - even when they become adults they are reluctant to report it. If a mother or father acted in such a way as to encourage a sexual relationship that is an abuse of that trust and authority. I don't see how that can be a healthy relationship for the child and it's certainly an abuse of the parent's role. You could make a better argument for siblings to marry.

So you presented a moral argument. Many male/female relationships are out of balance, and in fact, women used to be considered not much more than property. The bottom line is that you can't claim morality can't be imposed by others then turn around and impose your own morality.

I disagree, if only because of the potential abuse being or having been involved in a parent/child sexual relationship.

That's illegal and should remain so. I'm talking about adults. How about two siblings? Same deal, they get sterilized. Or maybe two brothers or sisters?

 

[Jroc]

There is no absolute definition for marriage. There is no copyright on the word.

Just as there is no definition of "speeding". It could mean going too slow, standing still, peanut butter or cheetahs. Who are you to say?

"Your honor, I wasn't speeding, I was Peanut Butter!"...

"...Well, why didn't you say so in the first place? Cast dismissed!.." *Bang!*

Worst analogy ever since we do set speed limits.

Marriage can be whatever the People decide it should be. Homosexuals have been getting married for thousands of years, whether governments or churches recognized those marriages or not.

Got an example of that? other than very recently.

 

[Jroc]

How many years before it can sink in? Mankind, for reasons obvious to most toddlers, has valued the special relationships between male and female. Men and women have different characteristics, they bring different aspects to the table and together are more complete than the whole of two separately.

My mom was different than my dad. Same with every other kid I knew. The gay marriage advocates pretend this is news to them, never heard of it before and mankind has for some mysterious hateful intolerant reason banned homosexual marriages, in religious and secular cultures alike.

It's like talking to retards.

That's not a rational argument against same sex marriage because what your family did or does has nothing to do with what some same sex couple somewhere else does.

gay marriage is an oxymoron. two men or two woman cannot create a marriage. they should be able to legally commit to each other and have "couple" rights, but their union is not a marriage.

see, thats the problem with you libs, you claim this about rights and not discriminating, but its really about forcing societal acceptance of an abnormal human condition as normal by government dictate. If it was really about equality and rights you would not be so hung up on the word 'marriage'.

Homosexuality is no more abnormal than being a Presbyterian is.

OK, sure. Human beings were designed with reproductive organs and sexual identites for no purpose? Of course homosexuality is abnormal, so is being bi polar or having MS. They are mental and/or physical disorders. We do not shun or disparage those with mental or physical disorders, but neither to we declare them normal

99% of all human sexual activity occurs for non-reproductive reasons. Does that make us all abnormal? We can't all be abnormal can we?

The couple who only ever has sex when they're trying to reproduce and refrains from any sex for any other purpose,

THEY would be abnormal.

I've even heard of people traveling across the country just for a sexual encounter .....Crazy

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

When changing marriage from a state-granted privelege into a right, presuming that happens this year, the US Supreme Court may not play favorites. All consenting adults will thereafter have access to "anything goes" marriage if that is based on abandoning tradition (man/woman & "two only"). Opponents to this union between father and daughter will only have the argument "it's creepy" to fall back on. But a man using another man's anus as an artificial vagina is also very creepy, so, there you go.

Game over. Remove powers from the states to regulate and this is what Lady Justice with the blindfold on and the scales will dispense as "justice in the name of equality"...if marriage becomes a right to lifestyles in addition to race.

Well, I agree... if such a decision comes along, we will then be informed that the powers that be have determined that the US Ship is to be scuttled.

There will be no alternative conclusion possible, in that such will tell us that what amounts to the cultural conscience has completely lost any means to make sense of the rapidly devolving circumstances and that they feel that it is better to burn this bitch down, than to watch it rot.

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Wait, the whack-o-meter just went off...that must mean that "Where r my keys" (aka: Silly's sock puppet) is back! Did you get away from the orderlies AGAIN?

Nice... few people celebrate their substandard intellect with such glee.

You concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

There is also no correlation between homosexuality and child abuse. Child abuse occurs regardless of the sexual orientation of the parents.

So what is your point other than grasping at straws?

Homosexuality presents sexual deviancy... pursuing children for sexual gratification presents sexual deviancy.

So... there's the correlation between homosexuality and child abuse.

 

[Coyote]

There is also no correlation between homosexuality and child abuse. Child abuse occurs regardless of the sexual orientation of the parents.

So what is your point other than grasping at straws?

Homosexuality presents sexual deviancy... pursuing children for sexual gratification presents sexual deviancy.

So... there's the correlation between homosexuality and child abuse.

oh geez, now that is weak If you stretch any further you are going to throw your back out, just sayin'

 

[nodoginnafight]

Ok, so some folks call anything other than man-woman, missionary position, "sexual deviancy." So I guess sexual deviancy means anything that "I don't consider normal."

The REAL question is: Does it create a victim? who suffers real damages? If the answer is yes, then society may have a legitimate role in protecting those victims.

It's not rocket science and it's not hazy.

 

[Syriusly]

The defenders of homo marriage said it couldn't happen, yet here it is:

Such marriage is still illegal in New Jersey. And almost certainly the father can be prosecuted even now for statutory rape and other sex crime laws- assuming any of this story is real at all.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Incest is legal in New Jersey? No wonder they can't be trusted to pump their own gas.

My wife told me once "Kiss me where it stinks". So I drove her to New Jersey

- Gilbert Goddfreid

 

[Silhouette]

Such marriage is still illegal in New Jersey. And almost certainly the father can be prosecuted even now for statutory rape and other sex crime laws- assuming any of this story is real at all.

Wait, the queen of championing all things LGBT is suddenly critical of how someone else does sex?...and wants them prosecuted no less? One of your friends from a previous page also said she hoped the father would be hit by a bus or a train and killed.

Pretty intolerate of sexual orientations for a group known for its W-I-D-E interpretation of "tolerance for alternative sexual lifestyles"...

These are consenting adults we're talking about. What EXACTLY is your problem with them having sex together? That it's "taboo"????????????

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I think I just threw up in my mouth....

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Incest is legal in New Jersey? No wonder they can't be trusted to pump their own gas.

My wife told me once "Kiss me where it stinks". So I drove her to New Jersey

- Gilbert Goddfreid

Ahhhh.. I can still recall the stench coming across the Kill Van Kull from Bayonne... it actually overpowered the stench from the landfill!

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

If porn is anything to go by, incest is much more acceptable than people pretend it isn't. Number of pornos featuring incest themes is comparable to other sexual proclivities. Especially in certain countries (Germany and Japan notably.) And used to be here in the US as well until incest and any mention or hint of it was ruled obscene in porn in the late 70s. Prior to that though, we're the nation who gave the world the "Taboo" series.

Hmmmm, seems like you know a lot about porn, have you been doing the research all of you adult life?

But you point is taken, since incest is such a big theme in porn, taking your authoritative word for it, then obviously it really is OK. We should take all out moral lessons from porn stars.

Any they may be purely fantasies.