Texas vs Gay Sex Marriage. Are Behaviors The Same As Race?

[rdean]

Texas vs Gay Sex Marriage. Are Behaviors The Same As Race?

If the behavior is hard wired into you, then the answer for that particular question is yes. The urge to mate is hard wired into everyone. Even a very retarded person will masturbate. Who knows what they are thinking about? But that urge to orgasm is something they just can't ignore.
If you wonder if you are gay or straight, what you think about is the clue. Just because there are right wingers who think about boys doesn't mean they all do. Ask Larry Craig and Mark Foley.

 

[Hossfly]

Actually there is no such thing as a sodomite that was born a sodomite. I remember a young man I had known in my city who told me he was a homosexual - and then after we had spent some time talking about Jesus Christ he told me - you know, I was not born this way. I know I was not born this way. Of course I knew he was not born "that way".. no one is!

Just because one person is confused, does not prove that people aren't born that way.

The only way they could be "born that way" is to be twin boys in the womb in a sixty-nine position with a dick in their mouths. I'll buy that.

 

[Syriusly]

Race is not the same as Religion.
Gender is not the same as Race
Sexual Preference is not the same as Gender
Religion is not the same as Sexual Preference.

And none of that matters- because people can- and have been- discriminated against because of one of those labels.

You never want to look at what gay-sex marriage does to kids do you? ..

I would be glad to have that discussion Silhouette- but you will never actually talk about that- will you?

What does 'gay marriage' do to kids?

For children being raised by straight couples- nothing.
For children being raised by gay couples- 'gay marriage' means that the children will have married parents.

Feel free to tell me what 'gay marriage' does to kids- if you dare pursue the topic.

I believe it is one of the most destructive things anyone could possibly do to a child. It creates an environment in which they are taught to be confused about something they should never have been confused about to begin with! I remember meeting two women who were living as sodomites .

How did 'sodomites' have children?

Not the lesbians you are calling 'sodomites'- which is just odd since the Bible never mentions lesbians as being Sodomites- but since you are calling them Sodomites, then I assume you believe that all the women and all the men in Sodom were homosexuals.

So where did their kids come from?

 

[Syriusly]

Actually there is no such thing as a sodomite that was born a sodomite. I remember a young man I had known in my city who told me he was a homosexual - and then after we had spent some time talking about Jesus Christ he told me - you know, I was not born this way. I know I was not born this way. Of course I knew he was not born "that way".. no one is!

Just because one person is confused, does not prove that people aren't born that way.

The only way they could be "born that way" is to be twin boys in the womb in a sixty-nine position with a dick in their mouths. I'll buy that.

So you weren't born straight- you made the concious decision to be straight?

How is that working out for you?

If it doesn't work out- do you think you could choose to be attracted to men?

 

[RKMBrown]

Is discriminating against someone based on race any different than discrimination based on sexual preference?

Yes those are two different types of discrimination.

I disagree. The "We don't serve your kind" attitude is the same from the "holier than thou" crowed.

No, there are many types of discrimination. Age discrimination is not the same as gender discrimination. Discrimination is a broad term. We all discriminate. It's a requirement for us to discriminate. We would not be alive if we did not discriminate.

Some times of discrimination are illegal and others are legal. For example, you are allowed to pick which baker you want to use. For that matter you can pick your baker based on any reason you like. Maybe you want to pick a baker that bakes topless. Maybe you like gay bakers.

 

[BlindBoo]

Is discriminating against someone based on race any different than discrimination based on sexual preference?

How are you defining discrimination?

If I were a Pastor I would refuse to perform weddings for sodomites whereas I would perform a wedding for a Christian man and Christian woman whom God had brought together. The laws of this land permit murder too, Blindboo. Am I going to give my support to doctors who perform abortions when the bible calls them murderers? No. Am I going to give my approval to sodomites committing acts that are an abomination to God Almighty? No.

Gods law stands irregardless of how lawless a nation becomes - His judgment will fall on a nation that departs from His Word. His judgment is about to fall on America.

Sodomy is not a race. It's a sin.

The "We don't serve your kind here" type.

Why would a gay couple want to be married by some hateful Religonist?

Abortion is not murder.

You are free to believe any number of hateful things based on your bible.

Gods are a powerless creation of mankind. Men are not so powerless, and history has shown them to carry out murder, mayhem and engage in all kind of discrimination based on the made up ruminations of those man-made gods.

 

[Syriusly]

Gay Sex Marriage is challenged by Texas' Christians: FRAMING THE ARGUMENT

Same-sex marriage ruling faces religious rights battle in Texas

As supporters of gay marriages celebrated a landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling, a new battle for same-sex marriage erupted in Texas where government leaders asserted their citizens' religious liberties trumped the individual right to marry...
Contesting the law on religious grounds will be the next major battlefield for the issue and could see it return to the Supreme Court, said Texas A&M University Law Professor Meg Penrose, who has followed the issue.

All Texas county clerks take an oath to uphold state laws and the U.S. Constitution, which includes Friday's decision, she said. But how far religious beliefs can protect state and county workers from performing their duties remains an unanswered constitutional question. Extending that argument could mean a Catholic judge deny a divorce because it goes against his religion, or a state worker could refuse to issue liquor licenses because it clashes with his religious beliefs, Penrose said.
Ultimately, it will come down to two fundamental rights – religious freedom granted explicitly in the Constitution, and same-sex liberties, which have been confirmed through previous court decisions – battling for precedence, she said.

I'm glad the author wrote it that way..."same-sex". Because that is a verb, not a noun. And that will be the ultimate question at the end of all this.
'GAY SEX' marriage is in no way shape or form born of a static state of being. It is an action; something done. And something done BTW that deprives children of either a father or a mother in marriage. This is a brand spanking new human concept, never before heard of or tried. Black men and white women still provided a father and a mother in marriage. More importantly, NO New Testament teaching advocated that races couldn't intermarry. Christians follow the new testament.

However, in Jude 1 of the New Testament, Jesus Christ's constant companion, confidant and personal servant tells the world what will happen if Christians promote the spread of a homosexual culture. The hub of any culture is marriage. So if Christians promote that spread, they are sentenced to eternal soul-death. They are reminded that everyone in Sodom was sentenced to the pit of fire forever, not just the homosexual cult there that forced its way upon every fold of life; but also those Christians who refused to do anything in order to stop it.

Price for your eternal soul? One marriage license, one catered meal, one photograph, one cake...make that strawberry with pineapple filling

Gay sex marriage is a verb, not a noun.

Opponents of the freedom of religion, the 1st Amendment are already alleging that their in-Pocket Justices who amended the Constitution to include a special class of just their favorite deviant sex behaviors as protected (while polygamy and incest remain without that protection), say that public accomodation laws and their new addition to the Constitution will trump freedom of religion. However, lawyers familiar with the Constitution will know of the 9th Amendment that says even if the judicial branch of government significantly changes the Constitution (which isn't allowed), that change may not suppress or abridge the rights enjoyed in another part of the Constitution.

I can see the bumper stickers now as to the 1st Amendment (adjunct to the democracy-killing "8 IS HATE) NUMBER 1 IS DONE! You know, with the rainbow logo off to the side..

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Rachel Dolezal. She's that white NAACP leader fruitcake who claims to be black. Who else but a liberal would think race is a choice?

What 'race' is Barack Obama?

What 'race' is Tiger Woods?

And why?

 

[RKMBrown]

Race is not the same as Religion.
Gender is not the same as Race
Sexual Preference is not the same as Gender
Religion is not the same as Sexual Preference.

And none of that matters- because people can- and have been- discriminated against because of one of those labels.

You never want to look at what gay-sex marriage does to kids do you? ..

I would be glad to have that discussion Silhouette- but you will never actually talk about that- will you?

What does 'gay marriage' do to kids?

For children being raised by straight couples- nothing.
For children being raised by gay couples- 'gay marriage' means that the children will have married parents.

Feel free to tell me what 'gay marriage' does to kids- if you dare pursue the topic.

I believe it is one of the most destructive things anyone could possibly do to a child. It creates an environment in which they are taught to be confused about something they should never have been confused about to begin with! I remember meeting two women who were living as sodomites .

How did 'sodomites' have children?

Not the lesbians you are calling 'sodomites'- which is just odd since the Bible never mentions lesbians as being Sodomites- but since you are calling them Sodomites, then I assume you believe that all the women and all the men in Sodom were homosexuals.

So where did their kids come from?

They come from the same places they come from for everyone else.

 

[Syriusly]

Race is a naturally-occurring phenomenon. Homosexuality is an anomoly, unrepresentative to the entire human race. There are also frogs born with three toes, and two-headed dogs.

Anomaly or not, if they're naturally occurring like "frogs born with three toes and two-headed dogs", they deserve the same legal rights and protections as anyone else.

Not if they're behavior is contrary to the norm and the laws of nature.

So you think we can deny the same legal rights to Jews because they are a small minority- and they circumsize their kids- which violates the law of nature?

Nobody's suggesting denying rights to anyone, you liberals still don't know the difference between "rights" and "privileges". Circumcision was something God told the Jews to do, but God didn't tell the Jews it was ok to sodomize each other.

Circumcision also helps prevents the spread of venereal disease. Same with cutting your hair, which prevents lice from breeding. By your erroneous logic, haircuts would also be against the laws of nature.

Actually Silhouette is doing exactly that- Silhouette would deny a whole plethora of rights to homosexuals- because she doesn't like them.

"Natural Law" says men have foreskins- cutting off foreskins defies 'Natural Law'- I mean if you believe in that "Natural Law" crap.

 

[JGalt]

There are actually gay couples who have adopted kids, and dress their little boys up like girls. Or their little girls likewise. That's bound to have some serious psychological detriment to those poor kids.

Without cites for proof, I have no option but to call you a LIAR!!!

Is your google broken? I'm not doing your legwork for you.

It's not up to me to provide proof. You were the one making the contention. I've got better things to do than go on a wild goose chase to ferret out your lies. If you're telling the truth, you should easily be able to prove it. Since you didn't bother, I see it as you trying to get away with something.

Not really. You're the one going through life being uninformed. That's evident by the political decisions you've made and the lifestyle you're leading. If you refuse to believe that some sodomites are raising their adopted kids as fags, I really don't care.

 

[Syriusly]

Race is not the same as Religion.
Gender is not the same as Race
Sexual Preference is not the same as Gender
Religion is not the same as Sexual Preference.

And none of that matters- because people can- and have been- discriminated against because of one of those labels.

You never want to look at what gay-sex marriage does to kids do you? ..

I would be glad to have that discussion Silhouette- but you will never actually talk about that- will you?

What does 'gay marriage' do to kids?

For children being raised by straight couples- nothing.
For children being raised by gay couples- 'gay marriage' means that the children will have married parents.

Feel free to tell me what 'gay marriage' does to kids- if you dare pursue the topic.

I believe it is one of the most destructive things anyone could possibly do to a child. It creates an environment in which they are taught to be confused about something they should never have been confused about to begin with! I remember meeting two women who were living as sodomites .

How did 'sodomites' have children?

Not the lesbians you are calling 'sodomites'- which is just odd since the Bible never mentions lesbians as being Sodomites- but since you are calling them Sodomites, then I assume you believe that all the women and all the men in Sodom were homosexuals.

So where did their kids come from?

They come from the same places they come from for everyone else.

In a society where all women are lesbians and all men are gay- without artificial insemination- where do the kids come from?

I am genuinely curious what those who believe that the story of Sodom is about a city full of homosexuals(hence 'sodomites') explain where their kids came from.

 

[JGalt]

Gay Sex Marriage is challenged by Texas' Christians: FRAMING THE ARGUMENT

Same-sex marriage ruling faces religious rights battle in Texas

As supporters of gay marriages celebrated a landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling, a new battle for same-sex marriage erupted in Texas where government leaders asserted their citizens' religious liberties trumped the individual right to marry...
Contesting the law on religious grounds will be the next major battlefield for the issue and could see it return to the Supreme Court, said Texas A&M University Law Professor Meg Penrose, who has followed the issue.

All Texas county clerks take an oath to uphold state laws and the U.S. Constitution, which includes Friday's decision, she said. But how far religious beliefs can protect state and county workers from performing their duties remains an unanswered constitutional question. Extending that argument could mean a Catholic judge deny a divorce because it goes against his religion, or a state worker could refuse to issue liquor licenses because it clashes with his religious beliefs, Penrose said.
Ultimately, it will come down to two fundamental rights – religious freedom granted explicitly in the Constitution, and same-sex liberties, which have been confirmed through previous court decisions – battling for precedence, she said.

I'm glad the author wrote it that way..."same-sex". Because that is a verb, not a noun. And that will be the ultimate question at the end of all this.
'GAY SEX' marriage is in no way shape or form born of a static state of being. It is an action; something done. And something done BTW that deprives children of either a father or a mother in marriage. This is a brand spanking new human concept, never before heard of or tried. Black men and white women still provided a father and a mother in marriage. More importantly, NO New Testament teaching advocated that races couldn't intermarry. Christians follow the new testament.

However, in Jude 1 of the New Testament, Jesus Christ's constant companion, confidant and personal servant tells the world what will happen if Christians promote the spread of a homosexual culture. The hub of any culture is marriage. So if Christians promote that spread, they are sentenced to eternal soul-death. They are reminded that everyone in Sodom was sentenced to the pit of fire forever, not just the homosexual cult there that forced its way upon every fold of life; but also those Christians who refused to do anything in order to stop it.

Price for your eternal soul? One marriage license, one catered meal, one photograph, one cake...make that strawberry with pineapple filling

Gay sex marriage is a verb, not a noun.

Opponents of the freedom of religion, the 1st Amendment are already alleging that their in-Pocket Justices who amended the Constitution to include a special class of just their favorite deviant sex behaviors as protected (while polygamy and incest remain without that protection), say that public accomodation laws and their new addition to the Constitution will trump freedom of religion. However, lawyers familiar with the Constitution will know of the 9th Amendment that says even if the judicial branch of government significantly changes the Constitution (which isn't allowed), that change may not suppress or abridge the rights enjoyed in another part of the Constitution.

I can see the bumper stickers now as to the 1st Amendment (adjunct to the democracy-killing "8 IS HATE) NUMBER 1 IS DONE! You know, with the rainbow logo off to the side..

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Rachel Dolezal. She's that white NAACP leader fruitcake who claims to be black. Who else but a liberal would think race is a choice?

What 'race' is Barack Obama?

What 'race' is Tiger Woods?

And why?

What do they have to do with that fruitcake Rachel Dolezal.? She has absolutely no African DNA. She's just a poseur.

 

[AceRothstein]

And yay! Another thread in which Sil repeats previously stated arguments as though somehow they will gain validity in a new thread.

Ergo, the reason why I made the CLEAR DISTINCTION between gay sex AS A BEHAVIOR and blacks as A NOBLE STATIC RACE. h.

'black' is not a 'noble static race'- it cannot even be clearly defined.

Is Barack Obama black- white or 'mulatto'? Depends on who you ask. What race is Tiger Woods?

What about this guy?

Sounds like a good time for a racial draft.

 

[Hossfly]

Is discriminating against someone based on race any different than discrimination based on sexual preference?

Yes because it's not a natural sin to be of a different race.

In nature many animals exhibit homosexuality. Nothing unnatural about it.

Not with animal beasts but with humans it is. That old argument doesn't fly.

 

[Syriusly]

There are actually gay couples who have adopted kids, and dress their little boys up like girls. Or their little girls likewise. That's bound to have some serious psychological detriment to those poor kids.

Without cites for proof, I have no option but to call you a LIAR!!!

Is your google broken? I'm not doing your legwork for you.

It's not up to me to provide proof. You were the one making the contention. I've got better things to do than go on a wild goose chase to ferret out your lies. If you're telling the truth, you should easily be able to prove it. Since you didn't bother, I see it as you trying to get away with something.

Not really. You're the one going through life being uninformed. That's evident by the political decisions you've made and the lifestyle you're leading. If you refuse to believe that some sodomites are raising their adopted kids as fags, I really don't care.

Why would we believe your fantasies. I have yet to see any evidence that you are informed about anything.

Fact: most homosexuals are raised by heterosexuals. Most kids raised by homosexuals- are shockingly heterosexuals.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The Bible does not use the term, lesbian either. So what is your point?
As for how Jesus Christ defining marriage and his referencing the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah, here are some scriptures:

Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city. - Matthew 10:15

And He answered and said, 'Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.
- Matthew Chapter 19:4-6

And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. Matt. 19:9

Note that no where in Scripture did Jesus speak of a man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman.

 

[JGalt]

You never want to look at what gay-sex marriage does to kids do you? ..

I would be glad to have that discussion Silhouette- but you will never actually talk about that- will you?

What does 'gay marriage' do to kids?

For children being raised by straight couples- nothing.
For children being raised by gay couples- 'gay marriage' means that the children will have married parents.

Feel free to tell me what 'gay marriage' does to kids- if you dare pursue the topic.

I believe it is one of the most destructive things anyone could possibly do to a child. It creates an environment in which they are taught to be confused about something they should never have been confused about to begin with! I remember meeting two women who were living as sodomites .

How did 'sodomites' have children?

Not the lesbians you are calling 'sodomites'- which is just odd since the Bible never mentions lesbians as being Sodomites- but since you are calling them Sodomites, then I assume you believe that all the women and all the men in Sodom were homosexuals.

So where did their kids come from?

They come from the same places they come from for everyone else.

In a society where all women are lesbians and all men are gay- without artificial insemination- where do the kids come from?

I am genuinely curious what those who believe that the story of Sodom is about a city full of homosexuals(hence 'sodomites') explain where their kids came from.

Instead of defending just homosexuality without offering any real insight, why don't you just man up and explain to the class whether your homosexuality is by choice or genetic? You have an audience here.

 

[Syriusly]

Gay Sex Marriage is challenged by Texas' Christians: FRAMING THE ARGUMENT

Same-sex marriage ruling faces religious rights battle in Texas

As supporters of gay marriages celebrated a landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling, a new battle for same-sex marriage erupted in Texas where government leaders asserted their citizens' religious liberties trumped the individual right to marry...
Contesting the law on religious grounds will be the next major battlefield for the issue and could see it return to the Supreme Court, said Texas A&M University Law Professor Meg Penrose, who has followed the issue.

All Texas county clerks take an oath to uphold state laws and the U.S. Constitution, which includes Friday's decision, she said. But how far religious beliefs can protect state and county workers from performing their duties remains an unanswered constitutional question. Extending that argument could mean a Catholic judge deny a divorce because it goes against his religion, or a state worker could refuse to issue liquor licenses because it clashes with his religious beliefs, Penrose said.
Ultimately, it will come down to two fundamental rights – religious freedom granted explicitly in the Constitution, and same-sex liberties, which have been confirmed through previous court decisions – battling for precedence, she said.

I'm glad the author wrote it that way..."same-sex". Because that is a verb, not a noun. And that will be the ultimate question at the end of all this.
'GAY SEX' marriage is in no way shape or form born of a static state of being. It is an action; something done. And something done BTW that deprives children of either a father or a mother in marriage. This is a brand spanking new human concept, never before heard of or tried. Black men and white women still provided a father and a mother in marriage. More importantly, NO New Testament teaching advocated that races couldn't intermarry. Christians follow the new testament.

However, in Jude 1 of the New Testament, Jesus Christ's constant companion, confidant and personal servant tells the world what will happen if Christians promote the spread of a homosexual culture. The hub of any culture is marriage. So if Christians promote that spread, they are sentenced to eternal soul-death. They are reminded that everyone in Sodom was sentenced to the pit of fire forever, not just the homosexual cult there that forced its way upon every fold of life; but also those Christians who refused to do anything in order to stop it.

Price for your eternal soul? One marriage license, one catered meal, one photograph, one cake...make that strawberry with pineapple filling

Gay sex marriage is a verb, not a noun.

Opponents of the freedom of religion, the 1st Amendment are already alleging that their in-Pocket Justices who amended the Constitution to include a special class of just their favorite deviant sex behaviors as protected (while polygamy and incest remain without that protection), say that public accomodation laws and their new addition to the Constitution will trump freedom of religion. However, lawyers familiar with the Constitution will know of the 9th Amendment that says even if the judicial branch of government significantly changes the Constitution (which isn't allowed), that change may not suppress or abridge the rights enjoyed in another part of the Constitution.

I can see the bumper stickers now as to the 1st Amendment (adjunct to the democracy-killing "8 IS HATE) NUMBER 1 IS DONE! You know, with the rainbow logo off to the side..

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Rachel Dolezal. She's that white NAACP leader fruitcake who claims to be black. Who else but a liberal would think race is a choice?

What 'race' is Barack Obama?

What 'race' is Tiger Woods?

And why?

What do they have to do with that fruitcake Rachel Dolezal.? She has absolutely no African DNA. She's just a poseur.

For the third time- and why do you evade the question?

What 'race' is Barack Obama?

What 'race' is Tiger Woods?

And why?

 

[Syriusly]

The Bible does not use the term, lesbian either. So what is your point?
As for how Jesus Christ defining marriage and his referencing the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah, here are some scriptures:

Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city. - Matthew 10:15

And He answered and said, 'Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.
- Matthew Chapter 19:4-6

And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. Matt. 19:9

Note that no where in Scripture did Jesus speak of a man marrying a man or a woman marrying a woman.

And nowhere in the scriptures does does Jesus condemn homosexuality.

But yes- Jesus does condemn adultery-and divorce pretty explicitly.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Rachel Dolezal. She's that white NAACP leader fruitcake who claims to be black. Who else but a liberal would think race is a choice?

Oh, don't dismiss the effect of that mess.

Remember that the "I identify as Black" was a punch to the gut of the LGBT cult and the Ideological Left's charge to de-validate the US Culture... and it came just a week prior to the SCOTUS Federally Licensing Degeneracy.

Man, every person that heard that woman declare: "I Identify as black", knew instinctively that THIS is exactly the point at which the entire LGBT scam was exposed; as nothing more than the individual fabrication of an Alternative reality.

And at that point, the charged of the LGBT cult was OVER!

Then SCOTUS simply FABRICATED AND ALTERNATIVE REALITY AND PRESTO... The Degeneracy of the LGBT is a FEDERALLY GUARANTEED RIGHT!

Understand, that license did not erase the knowledge that the whole 'CHOICE' farce irretrievably exposed as a scam...

So now you have two radically polarized points of view; which is to say the point of view of fundamental objective truth, and THE LIE that opposes it.

Which is the formula for WHAT?

Im asking what natural phenomenon is the consequence of two diametrically opposing points of view, where due to the pressure intrinsic to such, it is an axiomatic certainty (which means it is certain as a function of its nature) that one side or the other must give in... which is usually followed by rapid, devastating destruction, which concludes with the relief of the pressure as one sides submits to the irrepressible will of the other?