THANK YOU Libertarians for electing Biden!! Free college soon

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Imagine all those votes under Rank-Choice, where the field is limited to those who are on the ballot in all 50 states. Most likely, you would have had this result:

1st Choice: Jo Jorgensen
2nd Choice: Donald Trump
3rd Choice: a pile of donkey shit
4th Choice: Joe Biden



First choice vote gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2, 3rd gets 1, 4th get 0.

They get to voice their support for their real candidate while still participating in the overall process.

 

[TNHarley]

Trump would be ahead in the following states and would be in a commanding position to win IF Libertarians had voted for him instead of wasting their votes on Jo Jorgensen:

Wisconsin
Nevada
Michigan

Also, if Libertarians had voted for Trump, Trump would have a much larger lead in Georgia and North Carolina.

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, Jorgensen is getting 1.1% of the vote and 63,277 votes. Those wasted votes could prove to be decisive in helping Biden to win the state.


So, if Joe Biden wins, he can thank the puritanical, self-destructive Libertarians. It is beyond me how the Libertarian Party chose to even run a candidate in this election when the alternative to Donald Trump was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

Actually, he can not only thank the libertarians but he can really thank the average Trump supporter.

• The ones who cheer kids being ripped from their parents and put into detention centers...for years.
• The ones who can't help but call women "bitches".
• The ones who swear that hate groups and militias are very fine people--not quoting the President there.
• The ones who cartoonishly believe that Trump is a moral man, a devote father, a deep thinker--insulting anyone who may have decided to join the Party.
• The ones who think that America can survive on it's own without allies, without partners, and without immigrants.
• The ones who feel that any bad news is made up for the expressed purpose of hurting Trump
• The ones who feel that the astonishingly bad response to the Covid Pandemic was anything other than being a disaster....he actually said that he didn't know people died from the Flu.
• The ones who ignore the boorish behavior, ignore the gladhanding of our enemies, and even the excusing of murder done by people like the leaders of Saudi Arabia when they murdered a journalist (he had an American fiancée).
• The ones who, when asked, blame the House for his Spending that is up near $8T....all on the nation's credit card.

This morality argument for joe is such shit. This guy lies constantly. He is divisive as shit. Tells "the other side" they dont deserve to know his positions. Threatens to fight civilians. Touches childrens privates, sniffs them and smells their hair(WTF) Reports were made of him assaulting his SS details wife. Been accused of shoving his fingers in an aids vagina. His racist comments are far too many to list. ETC
Drop the horseshit.

 

[TNHarley]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Did you not read the story?

I ignored it because it is bullshit.

That's ignorant.

Its stupid to think trump deserved a a vote from a person with a different ideology just because the OP thinks biden sucks.

A Libertarian who actually wanted to participate in the system would have voted against the Authoritarian Left and for President Trump
3rd party people have the inferior position of non involvement while deluding themselves into feeling superior.

So, you think libertarians owe Republicans votes because the they have no choice? The other guy is so much worse?

Do you hear yourself?

But, all this makes a strong argument for rank-choice voting. Just saying.

Not sure you will get this -
The only 2 people running for President were Donald Trump and Joe Biden
One was going to win.
If you care about your country, you vote for the one that you think would be the greater help, even if it's only a slight difference.
To just sit back and not participate is the pussy way out - no better way to put it.

In other words, throw away your integrity and principles, and let the bullshit duopoly that created EVERY GODDAMN PROBLEM WE HAVE to keep a stronghold on our elections. LOL

 

[Billiejeens]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Did you not read the story?

I ignored it because it is bullshit.

That's ignorant.

Its stupid to think trump deserved a a vote from a person with a different ideology just because the OP thinks biden sucks.

A Libertarian who actually wanted to participate in the system would have voted against the Authoritarian Left and for President Trump
3rd party people have the inferior position of non involvement while deluding themselves into feeling superior.

Ummm from a libertarian(or constitutional for that matter) perspective, trump didnt exactly hit it out of the park.

Pre-covid - How so?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Did you not read the story?

I ignored it because it is bullshit.

That's ignorant.

Its stupid to think trump deserved a a vote from a person with a different ideology just because the OP thinks biden sucks.

A Libertarian who actually wanted to participate in the system would have voted against the Authoritarian Left and for President Trump
3rd party people have the inferior position of non involvement while deluding themselves into feeling superior.

So, you think libertarians owe Republicans votes because the they have no choice? The other guy is so much worse?

Do you hear yourself?

But, all this makes a strong argument for rank-choice voting. Just saying.

Not sure you will get this -
The only 2 people running for President were Donald Trump and Joe Biden
One was going to win.
If you care about your country, you vote for the one that you think would be the greater help, even if it's only a slight difference.
To just sit back and not participate is the pussy way out - no better way to put it.

No, I get it just fine.

You think libertarians owe Republicans a vote because Democrats suck.

Just say what you really mean. Libertarians should not get a choice outside the duopoly, right?

 

[Skylar]

Trump would be ahead in the following states and would be in a commanding position to win IF Libertarians had voted for him instead of wasting their votes on Jo Jorgensen:

Wisconsin
Nevada
Michigan

Also, if Libertarians had voted for Trump, Trump would have a much larger lead in Georgia and North Carolina.

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, Jorgensen is getting 1.1% of the vote and 63,277 votes. Those wasted votes could prove to be decisive in helping Biden to win the state.


So, if Joe Biden wins, he can thank the puritanical, self-destructive Libertarians. It is beyond me how the Libertarian Party chose to even run a candidate in this election when the alternative to Donald Trump was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

I don't know why a libertarian would vote for Trump. The "Unitary Executive" and the common libertarian conceptions of governance don't have much to do with each other.

Plus, most libertarians don't believe in the criminalization of abortion. Which Trump's appointees are likely to enact.

Finally, Trump is a fairly petty, loathsome person. I can see that turning off plenty of men and women of principle.

Oh, I dunno. Why would libertarians who want to protect their Constitutional rights vote for Trump?


1. Not packing the courts to continue to legislate from the bench

Most Libertarians are pro-choice. And Trump has nominated justices that will strip that right from citizens. Stripping constitutional protections from half the population would be more than enough reason to vote for someone other than Trump

2. Not adding states to forever own the Senate.

New states? That's not a significant issue.

3. Not doing away with the 2nd amendment

You guys have cried wolf on this particular issue a lot. 'Obama's gonna take your guns' didn't happen.

4. Not doing away with the First amendment as opposing voices from the DNC is now silenced all over social media and people are cancelled from society and possibly lose their jobs.

The first amendment has nothing to do with Facebook. The first word of the first amendment demonstrates the absurdity of that entire argument.

Most Libertarians have read the Bill of Rights. Which is why your argument probably doesn't persuade them to vote for Trump.

5. Not want a one party country like all democrat sh$tholes eventually become.

You get that most of the tax money comes from Blue States, yes? And that Red states are net consumers of tax money?

 

[2aguy]

Trump would be ahead in the following states and would be in a commanding position to win IF Libertarians had voted for him instead of wasting their votes on Jo Jorgensen:

Wisconsin
Nevada
Michigan

Also, if Libertarians had voted for Trump, Trump would have a much larger lead in Georgia and North Carolina.

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, Jorgensen is getting 1.1% of the vote and 63,277 votes. Those wasted votes could prove to be decisive in helping Biden to win the state.


So, if Joe Biden wins, he can thank the puritanical, self-destructive Libertarians. It is beyond me how the Libertarian Party chose to even run a candidate in this election when the alternative to Donald Trump was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

It isn't about winning, it is about making the republicans lose.....the libertarians are mad because normal people don't vote for them because normal people actually like to win and get things done...like protecting the country from the democrats......but the libertarians.....they can't stand that people won't vote for them.

 

[candycorn]

Trump would be ahead in the following states and would be in a commanding position to win IF Libertarians had voted for him instead of wasting their votes on Jo Jorgensen:

Wisconsin
Nevada
Michigan

Also, if Libertarians had voted for Trump, Trump would have a much larger lead in Georgia and North Carolina.

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, Jorgensen is getting 1.1% of the vote and 63,277 votes. Those wasted votes could prove to be decisive in helping Biden to win the state.


So, if Joe Biden wins, he can thank the puritanical, self-destructive Libertarians. It is beyond me how the Libertarian Party chose to even run a candidate in this election when the alternative to Donald Trump was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

Actually, he can not only thank the libertarians but he can really thank the average Trump supporter.

• The ones who cheer kids being ripped from their parents and put into detention centers...for years.
• The ones who can't help but call women "bitches".
• The ones who swear that hate groups and militias are very fine people--not quoting the President there.
• The ones who cartoonishly believe that Trump is a moral man, a devote father, a deep thinker--insulting anyone who may have decided to join the Party.
• The ones who think that America can survive on it's own without allies, without partners, and without immigrants.
• The ones who feel that any bad news is made up for the expressed purpose of hurting Trump
• The ones who feel that the astonishingly bad response to the Covid Pandemic was anything other than being a disaster....he actually said that he didn't know people died from the Flu.
• The ones who ignore the boorish behavior, ignore the gladhanding of our enemies, and even the excusing of murder done by people like the leaders of Saudi Arabia when they murdered a journalist (he had an American fiancée).
• The ones who, when asked, blame the House for his Spending that is up near $8T....all on the nation's credit card.

This morality argument for joe is such shit. This guy lies constantly. He is divisive as shit. Tells "the other side" they dont deserve to know his positions. Threatens to fight civilians. Touches childrens privates, sniffs them and smells their hair(WTF) Reports were made of him assaulting his SS details wife. Been accused of shoving his fingers in an aids vagina. His racist comments are far too many to list. ETC
Drop the horseshit.

Fuck off.

I never said these people turned off by blob supporters gravitated toward Biden.

Also shove your unfounded sick allegations up your ass.

 

[2aguy]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Because he is saying that libertarians owed Republicans a vote simply for the fact that Democrats are worse, allegedly.

It is the most infuriating argument I can imagine.

That pisses me off more than the communist bullshit.

No.......he is saying by voting for the libertarians the libertarians gave power to the very party they say they oppose......the party that will do more to go against libertarian beliefs than the republicans......

 

[Billiejeens]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Did you not read the story?

I ignored it because it is bullshit.

That's ignorant.

Its stupid to think trump deserved a a vote from a person with a different ideology just because the OP thinks biden sucks.

A Libertarian who actually wanted to participate in the system would have voted against the Authoritarian Left and for President Trump
3rd party people have the inferior position of non involvement while deluding themselves into feeling superior.

So, you think libertarians owe Republicans votes because the they have no choice? The other guy is so much worse?

Do you hear yourself?

But, all this makes a strong argument for rank-choice voting. Just saying.

Not sure you will get this -
The only 2 people running for President were Donald Trump and Joe Biden
One was going to win.
If you care about your country, you vote for the one that you think would be the greater help, even if it's only a slight difference.
To just sit back and not participate is the pussy way out - no better way to put it.

In other words, throw away your integrity and principles, and let the bullshit duopoly that created EVERY GODDAMN PROBLEM WE HAVE to keep a stronghold on our elections. LOL

Not really sure how voting for someone not running demonstrates Integrity, principle, or for that matter, good judgement.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Did you not read the story?

I ignored it because it is bullshit.

That's ignorant.

Its stupid to think trump deserved a a vote from a person with a different ideology just because the OP thinks biden sucks.

A Libertarian who actually wanted to participate in the system would have voted against the Authoritarian Left and for President Trump
3rd party people have the inferior position of non involvement while deluding themselves into feeling superior.

Ummm from a libertarian(or constitutional for that matter) perspective, trump didnt exactly hit it out of the park.

Pre-covid - How so?

He was still a big spender, among other issues. He is still lightyears better than Biden or anything the Dems could produce, but I do not blame libertarians for voting their conscience. You don't own their votes. You just don't. Stop demanding it.

But, there is an option. Rank-Choice the R D and L candidates and watch who most people really support.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Remember the time the Republicans stole all of our delegates and didn't let us on the stage at the convention, even after we'd already won the right? Of course, we managed to put 10,000 in the Target Center just down the road from the convention on a moment's notice and the statesman spoke anyway. Because that's how we do.

Well. Heh heh. Payback is a bitch, cocksuckers. lolol.

And you haven't seen anything yet.

You don't even have enough grassroots to grow a spot for a dog to piss on.

GOP's only saving grace will be the people we've already put in the Senate and the Congress. True conservatism's only chance at having a voice in Washington comes from those very same people. And you dumb asses still haven't figured it out. lol. In time....

 

[Billiejeens]

Imagine all those votes under Rank-Choice, where the field is limited to those who are on the ballot in all 50 states. Most likely, you would have had this result:

1st Choice: Jo Jorgensen
2nd Choice: Donald Trump
3rd Choice: a pile of donkey shit
4th Choice: Joe Biden



First choice vote gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2, 3rd gets 1, 4th get 0.

They get to voice their support for their real candidate while still participating in the overall process.

How many states currently employ that method?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Because he is saying that libertarians owed Republicans a vote simply for the fact that Democrats are worse, allegedly.

It is the most infuriating argument I can imagine.

That pisses me off more than the communist bullshit.

No.......he is saying by voting for the libertarians the libertarians gave power to the very party they say they oppose......the party that will do more to go against libertarian beliefs than the republicans......

I know what he is saying.

It's not the individual voter's job to win the fucking election. The voter's job is to vote for the best candidate, as they see it. PERIOD.

Stop acting like they owe votes to the GOP.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump would be ahead in the following states and would be in a commanding position to win IF Libertarians had voted for him instead of wasting their votes on Jo Jorgensen:

Wisconsin
Nevada
Michigan

Also, if Libertarians had voted for Trump, Trump would have a much larger lead in Georgia and North Carolina.

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, Jorgensen is getting 1.1% of the vote and 63,277 votes. Those wasted votes could prove to be decisive in helping Biden to win the state.


So, if Joe Biden wins, he can thank the puritanical, self-destructive Libertarians. It is beyond me how the Libertarian Party chose to even run a candidate in this election when the alternative to Donald Trump was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

No, he can thank the Neo-Con, China First, Never Trumper sobs, and, the overnight vote count.

I was up all night, what I saw when 5 states stopped counting votes at the same time, is something out of an old Soviet thriller novel.

Trump should be asking 1000 questions and not accepting it. If people encourage him to NOT take it to court, there is something to hide.

Or.....more people voted for Biden. The conspiracy you're insinuating is both evidence free and completely unnecessary. A far simpler solution matches the evidence:

Biden won.

Do you find anything odd that the votes counted so far in Wisconsin exceed the number of registered voters?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Imagine all those votes under Rank-Choice, where the field is limited to those who are on the ballot in all 50 states. Most likely, you would have had this result:

1st Choice: Jo Jorgensen
2nd Choice: Donald Trump
3rd Choice: a pile of donkey shit
4th Choice: Joe Biden



First choice vote gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2, 3rd gets 1, 4th get 0.

They get to voice their support for their real candidate while still participating in the overall process.

How many states currently employ that method?

I'm just offering an alternative solution, if you really want libertarian votes to STOP the Dems, give them an option to support their candidate too.

Otherwise, quit bitching.

 

[Billiejeens]

Remember the time the Republicans stole all of our delegates and didn't let us on the stage at the convention, reven after we'd already won the right?

Well. Heh heh. Payback is a bitch, cocksuckers. lolol.

And you haven't seen anything yet.

You don't even have enough grassroots to grow a spot for a dog to piss on.

Who is "our"?

 

[Skylar]

Trump would be ahead in the following states and would be in a commanding position to win IF Libertarians had voted for him instead of wasting their votes on Jo Jorgensen:

Wisconsin
Nevada
Michigan

Also, if Libertarians had voted for Trump, Trump would have a much larger lead in Georgia and North Carolina.

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, Jorgensen is getting 1.1% of the vote and 63,277 votes. Those wasted votes could prove to be decisive in helping Biden to win the state.


So, if Joe Biden wins, he can thank the puritanical, self-destructive Libertarians. It is beyond me how the Libertarian Party chose to even run a candidate in this election when the alternative to Donald Trump was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

It isn't about winning, it is about making the republicans lose.....the libertarians are mad because normal people don't vote for them because normal people actually like to win and get things done...like protecting the country from the democrats......but the libertarians.....they can't stand that people won't vote for them.

Or.....Trump simply didn't earn their vote. The idea Trump is 'owed' Libertarian votes is as entitled as the idea that Democrats are 'owed' the Green party votes.

Nadar didn't 'spoil' a Gore presidency in 2000. Gore didn't earn their vote. Same for Trump and Libertarian voters in 2020.

 

[Taz]

Trump would be ahead in the following states and would be in a commanding position to win IF Libertarians had voted for him instead of wasting their votes on Jo Jorgensen:

Wisconsin
Nevada
Michigan

Also, if Libertarians had voted for Trump, Trump would have a much larger lead in Georgia and North Carolina.

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, Jorgensen is getting 1.1% of the vote and 63,277 votes. Those wasted votes could prove to be decisive in helping Biden to win the state.


So, if Joe Biden wins, he can thank the puritanical, self-destructive Libertarians. It is beyond me how the Libertarian Party chose to even run a candidate in this election when the alternative to Donald Trump was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

No vote is wasted. Us Libertarians want real change.

 

[2aguy]

Libertarians probably voted for the libertarian, not biden. So why should he thank them?

Did you not read the story?

I ignored it because it is bullshit.

That's ignorant.

Its stupid to think trump deserved a a vote from a person with a different ideology just because the OP thinks biden sucks.

A Libertarian who actually wanted to participate in the system would have voted against the Authoritarian Left and for President Trump
3rd party people have the inferior position of non involvement while deluding themselves into feeling superior.

Ummm from a libertarian(or constitutional for that matter) perspective, trump didnt exactly hit it out of the park.

Pre-covid - How so?

He was still a big spender, among other issues. He is still lightyears better than Biden or anything the Dems could produce, but I do not blame libertarians for voting their conscience. You don't own their votes. You just don't. Stop demanding it.

But, there is an option. Rank-Choice the R D and L candidates and watch who most people really support.

I'll demean libertarians.....if you can't win, you vote to stop the party that is going to do the most damage to the country....they didn't do that, they voted just to be jerks....now the democrat party is likely to do major damage to the country, ending fracking, putting on anti-American judges to the courts, using the FBI, CIA, DOJ to go after their enemies and kamala is going to give the enemies of this country a free reign........our allies who made fun of Trump...well fuck them, they are about to see how much fun it is when the democrats are in charge and let Russia and China run free......