The American Military occupation of Germany

[ScreamingEagle]

They hate us for what we have done to them, by propping up brutal dictators like the Shah.

You quit doing such foolhardy things and it matters not that a numbskull like Carter gets into office.

Did you like it when the Chinese were sending money over here and peddling influence to shore up the Clintons?

they hated us for interfering with the Shah and now they hate us for not interfering with the Ayatollah.....the hate never stops...

our problem is not to worry about feelings but about our security interests...

But we did interfere, by funding Saddam. You know, the guy who gassed a bunch of them?

Good thing there was no blowback there, huh?

what's your point....?

 

[Camp]

Which America does over Germany.

We had a legal and moral right to occupy Germany after WWII. Germany does not consider us to be an occupation force today. .

The cognitive dissonance of the neo-cons is amusing.

I doubt you understand the meaning of either one of those terms or when it is appropriate to use them.

 

[Iceman]

The good news is the third world, corporate, degenerate police state known as America and it's shadow empire will fall and it's jackboot will come off of Europa. Europa will be free again.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The good news is the third world, corporate, degenerate police state known as America and it's shadow empire will fall and it's jackboot will come off of Europa. Europa will be free again.

as if it hasn't been free since WWII....

instead of taking potshots at the USA why don't you leftie jerks spend more time worrying about the coming rule of Islam in Europe....? or "Europa" as you say.....

 

[Iceman]

The good news is the third world, corporate, degenerate police state known as America and it's shadow empire will fall and it's jackboot will come off of Europa. Europa will be free again.

as if it hasn't been free since WWII....

instead of taking potshots at the USA why don't you leftie jerks spend more time worrying about the coming rule of Islam in Europe....?

Left wing, lol. It was the USA that allied with the Soviets against Nationalists in WW2 and leave Eastern Europe to the communists, and the west to be occupied by Anglo-American and Zionist puppets.

 

[Iceman]

In most western European countries, you will be arrested for criticizing multiculturalism and immigration, some freedom!

 

[Political Junky]

and then came along Jimmie Cawtah......

Yes.

But that doesn't change that the Shah was propped up for as long as he was by American military intervention, whether in terms of hardware, money, training, intelligence gathering, and so on.

But they just hate us because of our freedom, right?

they hate us because of what we can do to them....without appeasers like the peanut farmer getting in the way...

the same reason why the embassy hostages were released the minute Reagan was sworn in...

same reason our sanctions were working......until Carter II stepped in and messed it up again....

Yes, wasn't that a "coincidence"?

"October Surprise" and "Argo"

The October Surprise
However, after becoming president on Feb. 4, 1980, he found his efforts to resolve the hostage crisis thwarted. Bani-Sadr said he discovered that “Ayatollah Khomeini and Ronald Reagan had organized a clandestine negotiation, later known as the ‘October Surprise,’ which prevented the attempts by myself and then-U.S. President Jimmy Carter to free the hostages before the 1980 U.S. presidential election took place. The fact that they were not released tipped the results of the election in favor of Reagan.”
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[Iceman]

ScreamingEagle you know nothing of the right wing, stop trying to pretend you are part of it.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

they hated us for interfering with the Shah and now they hate us for not interfering with the Ayatollah.....the hate never stops...

our problem is not to worry about feelings but about our security interests...

But we did interfere, by funding Saddam. You know, the guy who gassed a bunch of them?

Good thing there was no blowback there, huh?

what's your point....?

You really don't get it, huh?

First America props up the dictator Shah, then, when that blows up in our faces, turns around and funds the military machine of the fiend who attacked their country and gassed their people.

And you think they hate us because we just haven't whooped their asses enough?

 

[Darkwind]

The good news is the third world, corporate, degenerate police state known as America and it's shadow empire will fall and it's jackboot will come off of Europa. Europa will be free again.

Yeah, but don't forget to keep giving us money and protection.

Other than that, get out.


Might want to zip that up, its pathetic anyway.

 

[Darkwind]

Yes.

But that doesn't change that the Shah was propped up for as long as he was by American military intervention, whether in terms of hardware, money, training, intelligence gathering, and so on.

But they just hate us because of our freedom, right?

they hate us because of what we can do to them....without appeasers like the peanut farmer getting in the way...

the same reason why the embassy hostages were released the minute Reagan was sworn in...

same reason our sanctions were working......until Carter II stepped in and messed it up again....

Yes, wasn't that a "coincidence"?

"October Surprise" and "Argo"

The October Surprise
However, after becoming president on Feb. 4, 1980, he found his efforts to resolve the hostage crisis thwarted. Bani-Sadr said he discovered that “Ayatollah Khomeini and Ronald Reagan had organized a clandestine negotiation, later known as the ‘October Surprise,’ which prevented the attempts by myself and then-U.S. President Jimmy Carter to free the hostages before the 1980 U.S. presidential election took place. The fact that they were not released tipped the results of the election in favor of Reagan.”
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Wow, is that shit still in circulation? Amazing...

 

[Jarlaxle]

Because that worked out so well the first time it was tried.

It was not tried. Had it been done after WW1, WW2 would not have happened.

What wasn't tried was leaving the Europeans to settle their own squabbles without American meddling.

No, it wasn't...but once involved, things should have been dealt with forever! Half-measures never work.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

It was not tried. Had it been done after WW1, WW2 would not have happened.

What wasn't tried was leaving the Europeans to settle their own squabbles without American meddling.

No, it wasn't...but once involved, things should have been dealt with forever! Half-measures never work.

Well, who knew that you were such a big fan of progressives like Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Truman and LBJ?

Handy bit of information to know.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The good news is the third world, corporate, degenerate police state known as America and it's shadow empire will fall and it's jackboot will come off of Europa. Europa will be free again.

as if it hasn't been free since WWII....

instead of taking potshots at the USA why don't you leftie jerks spend more time worrying about the coming rule of Islam in Europe....?

Left wing, lol. It was the USA that allied with the Soviets against Nationalists in WW2 and leave Eastern Europe to the communists, and the west to be occupied by Anglo-American and Zionist puppets.

go complain to FDR...

In most western European countries, you will be arrested for criticizing multiculturalism and immigration, some freedom!

good thing we're leaving then....huh?

ScreamingEagle you know nothing of the right wing, stop trying to pretend you are part of it.

really.....so which part are you....? a libertarian with his head up his ass...?

 

[Political Junky]

they hate us because of what we can do to them....without appeasers like the peanut farmer getting in the way...

the same reason why the embassy hostages were released the minute Reagan was sworn in...

same reason our sanctions were working......until Carter II stepped in and messed it up again....

Yes, wasn't that a "coincidence"?

"October Surprise" and "Argo"

The October Surprise
However, after becoming president on Feb. 4, 1980, he found his efforts to resolve the hostage crisis thwarted. Bani-Sadr said he discovered that &#8220;Ayatollah Khomeini and Ronald Reagan had organized a clandestine negotiation, later known as the &#8216;October Surprise,&#8217; which prevented the attempts by myself and then-U.S. President Jimmy Carter to free the hostages before the 1980 U.S. presidential election took place. The fact that they were not released tipped the results of the election in favor of Reagan.&#8221;
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Wow, is that shit still in circulation? Amazing...

That is a quote from Banisadr, the first president of Iran after the 1979 Iranian Revolution. He was president at the time of the hostage crisis. He knows what happened.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

But we did interfere, by funding Saddam. You know, the guy who gassed a bunch of them?

Good thing there was no blowback there, huh?

what's your point....?

You really don't get it, huh?

First America props up the dictator Shah, then, when that blows up in our faces, turns around and funds the military machine of the fiend who attacked their country and gassed their people.

And you think they hate us because we just haven't whooped their asses enough?

like i said.....stop worrying about feelings and focus on our security....

it's telling that both Carter and Carter II have had major problems with U.S. Embassy security....

 

[Darkwind]

Yes, wasn't that a "coincidence"?

"October Surprise" and "Argo"

The October Surprise
However, after becoming president on Feb. 4, 1980, he found his efforts to resolve the hostage crisis thwarted. Bani-Sadr said he discovered that “Ayatollah Khomeini and Ronald Reagan had organized a clandestine negotiation, later known as the ‘October Surprise,’ which prevented the attempts by myself and then-U.S. President Jimmy Carter to free the hostages before the 1980 U.S. presidential election took place. The fact that they were not released tipped the results of the election in favor of Reagan.”
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Wow, is that shit still in circulation? Amazing...

That is a quote from Banisadr, the first president of Iran after the 1979 Iranian Revolution. He was president at the time of the hostage crisis. He knows what happened.

YYYYeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh.......

Because he didn't have anything to gain from it......Sorry, but the shit has been debunked.....like about 20 years ago......Sheesh....conspiracy theorists abound!

 

[Political Junky]

Wow, is that shit still in circulation? Amazing...

That is a quote from Banisadr, the first president of Iran after the 1979 Iranian Revolution. He was president at the time of the hostage crisis. He knows what happened.

YYYYeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh.......

Because he didn't have anything to gain from it......Sorry, but the shit has been debunked.....like about 20 years ago......Sheesh....conspiracy theorists abound!

My source is from March 11, 2013. See the link.
You've fallen for the rightwing spin machine.

"October Surprise" and "Argo"

 

[HelenaHandbag]

what's your point....?

You really don't get it, huh?

First America props up the dictator Shah, then, when that blows up in our faces, turns around and funds the military machine of the fiend who attacked their country and gassed their people.

And you think they hate us because we just haven't whooped their asses enough?

like i said.....stop worrying about feelings and focus on our security....

it's telling that both Carter and Carter II have had major problems with U.S. Embassy security....

How can you expect to be secure when there is so much time, money and effort creating enemies by supporting oppressive goons?

What do you believe might happen if as much effort were put into creating helpful relationships with peaceful political factions who want to be our friends, rather than just bankrolling oppressive brutal tyrants out of expediency?

And, no, I don't believe that you can just be friends with everyone by just being friendly. But you certainly go a long way in making friends by refusing to support thugs.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

You really don't get it, huh?

First America props up the dictator Shah, then, when that blows up in our faces, turns around and funds the military machine of the fiend who attacked their country and gassed their people.

And you think they hate us because we just haven't whooped their asses enough?

like i said.....stop worrying about feelings and focus on our security....

it's telling that both Carter and Carter II have had major problems with U.S. Embassy security....

How can you expect to be secure when there is so much time, money and effort creating enemies by supporting oppressive goons?

What do you believe might happen if as much effort were put into creating helpful relationships with peaceful political factions who want to be our friends, rather than just bankrolling oppressive brutal tyrants out of expediency?

And, no, I don't believe that you can just be friends with everyone by just being friendly. But you certainly go a long way in making friends by refusing to support thugs.

thugs like Iran....? tell that to Obama...