The Christian American Dream (Theocracy)

[Katzndogz]

Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19) ABOMINATION

Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10). I wonder if Dr. Laura would like that one to be enforced?

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death. (Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death. (Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed. (Leviticus 20:15-16).

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27) Harry Potter, Hermone…??

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake. (Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)

Those aren't the words of Jesus. That's where you fall off the wagon.

 

[sealybobo]

There are annoying evangelistic Christians in society who want to convert you just as there are annoying homosexual pedophiles who want to show you pictures of young boys. Society is a bitch. Christians probably share their outrage with Muslems and Hindus and Native American cultures in not wanting to be forced to participate in the killing of the unborn by supplying their employees with poison. Buy it yourself and go to hell.

No one cares about birth control. At least no one did until the GOP planted that seed in your head and now you care.

Fact is, who gets the most abortions in the USA? CHRSISTIANS do! And Hobby Lobby invests in birth control companies. Who are swallowing birth control pills? Christians!

 

[guno]

Read your bible, Christians, are you sure about ALL the rules??


The point being-- todays Christian Americans pick and choose which rules they will follow, usually based on their own fears and insecurities.

 

[guno]

Read your bible, Christians, are you sure about ALL the rules??


The point being-- todays Christian Americans pick and choose which rules they will follow, usually based on their own fears and insecurities.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Years ago, I liked Christians. Now, I just tolerate them.

 

[guno]

Jesus said marriage is a man and woman. So according to you Jesus is a homophobic bigot. You're confused.

Jesus never said anything of the kind. You are putting words in his mouth, just like you do for everyone else.

What Jesus would have said is what Rome does is up to Rome, your only concern is the Kingdom (meaning Reign) of God. If you'd stop trying to make Christianity, the parts you agree with that is, into Law, a whole lot of people would respect Christians a whole lot more. Not me of course but many.

It's forbidden in the Old Testament(Leviticus), is that not proof enough for you, anti-semite?

What are you going to say next, that Hitler never said anything specifically about gassing Jews?

Paul, one of Christ's apostles, and one of the Early Church Father's was clear on the matter:

Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:9–10).

paul was not a contemporary of the christian god jesus, he came 80 years after the jesus story was born, he also suffered from epilepsy hence the blinding light and hearing voices, and so he started the biggest scam known and sold to man, Christianity

 

[Ibentoken]

It's not really odd at all. That was a Roman thing and he was focused on God.

Yes. I think you just made my point. The state can have their laws and God has his. Doesn't matter what the state says marriage is. Christians have the right to what they believe marriage is.

And they are welcome to do so but they are not welcome to make Biblical law into American law. We have people for that.

I've never seen that. Do you have an example?

 

[Peach]

Years ago, I liked Christians. Now, I just tolerate them.

Thanks for being so open minded

 

[blackhawk]

This thread is proof.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Years ago, I liked Christians. Now, I just tolerate them.

Thanks for being so open minded

You're welcome. But I wouldn't want my daughter to marry one.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Yes. I think you just made my point. The state can have their laws and God has his. Doesn't matter what the state says marriage is. Christians have the right to what they believe marriage is.

And they are welcome to do so but they are not welcome to make Biblical law into American law. We have people for that.

I've never seen that. Do you have an example?

I have. In growing up in Atlanta, it was illegal to open virtually any business on Sundays until I was about 25 years old. Exceptions were made for gas stations convenience stores, move houses, and Bowling alleys. That was about it.

 

[whitehall]

There are annoying evangelistic Christians in society who want to convert you just as there are annoying homosexual pedophiles who want to show you pictures of young boys. Society is a bitch. Christians probably share their outrage with Muslems and Hindus and Native American cultures in not wanting to be forced to participate in the killing of the unborn by supplying their employees with poison. Buy it yourself and go to hell.

No one cares about birth control. At least no one did until the GOP planted that seed in your head and now you care.

Fact is, who gets the most abortions in the USA? CHRSISTIANS do! And Hobby Lobby invests in birth control companies. Who are swallowing birth control pills? Christians!

Maybe you missed the point. It isn't about birth control. It's about forcing companies to pay for poison designed to kill living humans. Buy it yourself and go to hell.

 

[Ibentoken]

And they are welcome to do so but they are not welcome to make Biblical law into American law. We have people for that.

I've never seen that. Do you have an example?

I have. In growing up in Atlanta, it was illegal to open virtually any business on Sundays until I was about 25 years old. Exceptions were made for gas stations convenience stores, move house, and Bowling alleys. That was about it.

Yep. There also used to be dry counties, no alcohol. That was voted on by the people. So what are you afraid might happen?

 

[Vandalshandle]

There are annoying evangelistic Christians in society who want to convert you just as there are annoying homosexual pedophiles who want to show you pictures of young boys. Society is a bitch. Christians probably share their outrage with Muslems and Hindus and Native American cultures in not wanting to be forced to participate in the killing of the unborn by supplying their employees with poison. Buy it yourself and go to hell.

No one cares about birth control. At least no one did until the GOP planted that seed in your head and now you care.

Fact is, who gets the most abortions in the USA? CHRSISTIANS do! And Hobby Lobby invests in birth control companies. Who are swallowing birth control pills? Christians!

Maybe you missed the point. It isn't about birth control. It's about forcing companies to pay for poison designed to kill living humans. Buy it yourself and go to hell.

Well, if that is the issue, you should stop flying any airline that used Boeing aircraft, because they are supporting the company that makes killer drones.

Oh, and Dow Chemical (Better Living through Chemistry) makes napalm, which is used to burn people alive.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I've never seen that. Do you have an example?

I have. In growing up in Atlanta, it was illegal to open virtually any business on Sundays until I was about 25 years old. Exceptions were made for gas stations convenience stores, move house, and Bowling alleys. That was about it.

Yep. There also used to be dry counties, no alcohol. That was voted on by the people. So what are you afraid might happen?

Actually, closing businesses on Sunday was never voted on by the people. In fact, the people, who were sick and tired of losing convention revenue, because no organization wanted to hold a convention in a city where the sidewalks rolled up every night, demanded that these laws change, which they did, as soon as the political machine realized that they were going to get voted out of office if they did not change them.

 

[RWHeathenGamer]

Jesus never said anything of the kind. You are putting words in his mouth, just like you do for everyone else.

What Jesus would have said is what Rome does is up to Rome, your only concern is the Kingdom (meaning Reign) of God. If you'd stop trying to make Christianity, the parts you agree with that is, into Law, a whole lot of people would respect Christians a whole lot more. Not me of course but many.

It's forbidden in the Old Testament(Leviticus), is that not proof enough for you, anti-semite?

What are you going to say next, that Hitler never said anything specifically about gassing Jews?

Paul, one of Christ's apostles, and one of the Early Church Father's was clear on the matter:

Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6:9–10).

paul was not a contemporary of the christian god jesus, he came 80 years after the jesus story was born,

LOL stopped reading after this, stop referring to revleft for your biblical history. You know nothing of scripture.

Paul was long gone 80 years after the death of Jesus(Around AD 33), Paul died in 67 AD. The Pauline Epistles were written in the 50s AD, 20-30 years after the death of Jesus.

Reading the New Testament: An Introduction - Pheme Perkins - Google Books

I like how what he says about homosexuality, "doesn't count", and doesn't represent REAL homo-loving Christianity, but you don't mind citing his view on gender roles in the scriptures to prove how evil and sexist Christianity is.

 

[RWHeathenGamer]

Also Jesus may have not said anything about homosexuality directly, but his view on the matter is clear in this passage, he fulfills the laws of the old covenant(on homosexuality, adultery etc). He doesn't come to abolish the law.

Matthew 5:17-18
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law(Old Testament Law) or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…

 

[Vandalshandle]

Also Jesus may have not said anything about homosexuality directly, but his view on the matter is clear in this passage, he fulfills the laws of the old covenant(on homosexuality, adultery etc). He doesn't come to abolish the law.

Matthew 5:17-18
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law(Old Testament Law) or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…

DAMN! Well, I guess it is back to stoning, then....

 

[sealybobo]

There are annoying evangelistic Christians in society who want to convert you just as there are annoying homosexual pedophiles who want to show you pictures of young boys. Society is a bitch. Christians probably share their outrage with Muslems and Hindus and Native American cultures in not wanting to be forced to participate in the killing of the unborn by supplying their employees with poison. Buy it yourself and go to hell.

No one cares about birth control. At least no one did until the GOP planted that seed in your head and now you care.

Fact is, who gets the most abortions in the USA? CHRSISTIANS do! And Hobby Lobby invests in birth control companies. Who are swallowing birth control pills? Christians!

Maybe you missed the point. It isn't about birth control. It's about forcing companies to pay for poison designed to kill living humans. Buy it yourself and go to hell.

Sorry dummy but this is where your religion is outdated and wrong. People today can't afford to have 10 kids. A sheep herder or farmer wanted that many kids. Today people can't afford them. So, either get fixed, wear a condom or take birth control.

Clearly we aren't a christian nation if birth control is murder.

So anyways, we as a society decided it would be best for society if we provided not just poor women but all women who want it BIRTH CONTROL. And if that is all it takes to go to hell, I'm sure you aren't a saint so I guess they'll see you in hell.

 

[Lakhota]

The Christian crusades are now moving into corporations.

How Partisan Battles Over God, Guns And Gays Infiltrated Corporate America

I've gotta tell a very abbreviated story which plugs right in to this.

Back in the 90s, I was working for a fortune 500 company. I suppose I thought they had what one might call a liberated outlook due to all their talk and training about pluralism etc. They also had a fair amount of gays working there, and a LOT of them were out of the closet. Some of them were actually fairly militant and vocal too.

BUT, oddly enough, the company had a LARGE number of fundamentalist Christians working there too. Many people had Bibles right on their desk, prominently displayed. Others would use a work setting for proselytizing. At any rate, this one guy kept coming over to my work area on his breaks and talking about Jesus this and Jesus that to a woman who sat next to me (while also talking about other issues near and dear to the religious right). At first I put up with it because I thought it was just a passing thing (it wasn't), and because he was an old friend (who at one point told me that God told him we could no longer be friends, probably because I wouldn't become what he considered to be a Christian in good standing as far as he was concerned). So, although I didn't want to do it, I finally complained to management. Well, he tried to turn it into a religious freedom issue. However, I had made it clear from the very beginning that I wasn't trying to stop him from doing what he was doing. I just wanted him to take it someplace else while I was trying to work. I suggested that he be allowed to use any open conference room before, during, and after business hours where he could invite ANYONE he chose to invite. I even said it was perfectly fine with me if they had prayer meetings etc. So, I wasn't trying to create a religious free workplace by any stretch of the imagination. I just wanted to be able to work without that kind of distraction in much the same way that I wouldn't want any distraction.

What struck me the most was this: while I was just looking for an accommodation that would give everyone what he really needed to make the work place a functioning environment where everyone would be able to fit in without feeling marginalized or disrespected, this guy was NOT interested in compromise of any kind. He wanted to be able to turn the workplace into a zone where he could talk about Jesus and his faith whenever he pleased under any circumstances he pleased, regardless of what anyone else thought or whether they liked it or not. It was a real learning experience.

To put an end to the story, eventually he agreed to take it somewhere else. But I always had a funny feeling I had put a target on my back for doing what I did because I KNOW the other Christians didn't like what I did.

You were exceptionally kind and tolerant. It simply amazes me how Christian zealots think they are so smart after reading one old book written by ancient, superstitious old men. Simply amazing...