The creationists are BACK

Math is fact not theory

Evolution is also a fact, fact-denying isn't a big deal to you guys as you're proving.


If there were a biblical passage that said 8*9=73 we'd be having this same silly discussion about math.

Evolution is also a fact
Once again Evolution is a Theory it is not a fact

A scientific theory, based on mounds and mounds of observable evidence throughout the years. Scientific theories cannot actually be proven, this is true, and they can be disproven. But there is nothing at all to suggest that evolution is false, there is nothing to disprove it and much to suggest it is in fact, true.

Remember that scientific theories describe something in science. They do not provide the means of why something in a scientific theory is the way it is, they just describe it. For example, gravity is a theory, it describes how gravity works, but not why gravity works like it does.
 
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Science has never been able to duplicate the complexities of a single celled organism.
Nor has science proved that you can create life from anything that is dead.


they are getting pretty close. You say it as if it is easy. That we SHOULD be able to do it just because we believe in science. It is clear you don't understand science at all.


I say it because it is not easy at all. And proves how complex a living cell really is.
But science will never be able to create life from anything that is dead.

so, complexity somehow equals god? How is that? It's complexity only speaks to what is required to make something like this work.
 
Science has never been able to duplicate the complexities of a single celled organism.
Nor has science proved that you can create life from anything that is dead.


they are getting pretty close. You say it as if it is easy. That we SHOULD be able to do it just because we believe in science. It is clear you don't understand science at all.


I say it because it is not easy at all. And proves how complex a living cell really is.
But science will never be able to create life from anything that is dead.

you can not create anything from something that is "dead"

although you can create something from nothing.

CERN creates and traps antimatter (Wired UK)
 
Science make no such assumptions. Hypothesises are proven false all the time. Scientist learn to accept the results of their experiments and to develop new hypothesises to test again and again.....

Steps of the Scientific Method

I've found that splitting Hairs isn't a very productive endeavor......how about you?

Blind belief versus the scientific method is hardly hair splitting. I know you'd probably like it to be, but it's not. Science is all about proving or disproving one's hypothesis, not faith or belief in it. So in fact it's not hair splitting at all.

Do you "believe" ALL the data on global warming?
 
they are getting pretty close. You say it as if it is easy. That we SHOULD be able to do it just because we believe in science. It is clear you don't understand science at all.


I say it because it is not easy at all. And proves how complex a living cell really is.
But science will never be able to create life from anything that is dead.

you can not create anything from something that is "dead"

although you can create something from nothing.

CERN creates and traps antimatter (Wired UK)

How can you create something from nothing?
 
Evolution is also a fact, fact-denying isn't a big deal to you guys as you're proving.


If there were a biblical passage that said 8*9=73 we'd be having this same silly discussion about math.

Evolution is also a fact
Once again Evolution is a Theory it is not a fact

Repeating something that's wrong doesn't make it magically become right.

Evolution has been proven and is observable in nature, it's a basic elementary level fact.

You are correct so why do you lie about it? Evolution has not nor has ever been proven Evolution is a theory and a theory only
 
You have "faith" also. You believe what science tells you. That takes faith also.

Now that's a new spin I haven't heard yet.

You also have to have faith that 8*9=72 and thus you have to have faith in your math teacher who first taught you that.

I had faith, yes. Then I proved it to myself. That's quite different than reading a science journal and taking on "faith" what is printed there. Look at the scandal from global warming info. A lot of people had faith in global warming until the lid was blown off.

There was no lid blown off.

Consider, for instance, the phrase that has been turned into a music video by gleeful climate skeptics: “hide the decline,” used in an e-mail message by Phil Jones, the head of the university’s Climatic Research Unit. He was discussing the preparation of a graph for the cover of a 1999 report from the World Meteorological Organization showing that temperatures in the past several decades were the highest of the past millennium.

Most of the graph was based on analyses of tree rings and other “proxy” records like ice cores and lake sediments. These indirect measurements indicated that temperatures declined in the middle of the millennium and then rose in the first half of the 20th century, which jibes with other records. But the tree-ring analyses don’t reveal a sharp warming in the late 20th century — in fact, they show a decline in temperatures, contradicting what has been directly measured with thermometers.

Because they considered that recent decline to be spurious, Dr. Jones and his colleagues removed it from part of the graph and used direct thermometer readings instead. In a statement last week, Dr. Jones said there was nothing nefarious in what they had done, because the problems with the tree-ring data had been openly identified earlier and were known to experts.

But the graph adorned the cover of a report intended for policy makers and journalists. The nonexperts wouldn’t have realized that the scariest part of that graph — the recent temperatures soaring far above anything in the previous millennium — was based on a completely different measurement from the earlier portion. It looked like one smooth, continuous line leading straight upward to certain doom.

The story behind that graph certainly didn’t show that global warming was a hoax or a fraud, as some skeptics proclaimed, but it did illustrate another of their arguments: that the evidence for global warming is not as unequivocal as many scientists claim. (Go to nytimes.com/tierneylab for details.)

Findings - Fracas Over Hacked Climate E-Mail Shows Peril of Spinning Science - NYTimes.com
 
Evolution is also a fact, fact-denying isn't a big deal to you guys as you're proving.


If there were a biblical passage that said 8*9=73 we'd be having this same silly discussion about math.

Evolution is also a fact
Once again Evolution is a Theory it is not a fact

A scientific theory, based on mounds and mounds of observable evidence throughout the years. Scientific theories cannot actually be proven, this is true, and they can be disproven. But there is nothing at all to suggest that evolution is false, there is nothing to disprove it and much to suggest it is in fact, true.

Remember that scientific theories describe something in science. They do not provide the means of why something in a scientific theory is the way it is, they just describe it. For example, gravity is a theory, it describes how gravity works, but not why gravity works like it does.

And God is born.
 
I've found that splitting Hairs isn't a very productive endeavor......how about you?

Blind belief versus the scientific method is hardly hair splitting. I know you'd probably like it to be, but it's not. Science is all about proving or disproving one's hypothesis, not faith or belief in it. So in fact it's not hair splitting at all.

Do you "believe" ALL the data on global warming?

No. Do you beleive in supernatural creatures that have been in existance longer than the entire human race?
 
they are getting pretty close. You say it as if it is easy. That we SHOULD be able to do it just because we believe in science. It is clear you don't understand science at all.


I say it because it is not easy at all. And proves how complex a living cell really is.
But science will never be able to create life from anything that is dead.

you can not create anything from something that is "dead"

although you can create something from nothing.

CERN creates and traps antimatter (Wired UK)

Great read, article revealed it created antihydrogen out of nothing, so in 1995 they were able to create something from nothing.
 
Once again Evolution is a Theory it is not a fact

Repeating something that's wrong doesn't make it magically become right.

Evolution has been proven and is observable in nature, it's a basic elementary level fact.

You are correct so why do you lie about it? Evolution has not nor has ever been proven Evolution is a theory and a theory only

just like the theory of gravity, theory of relativity and theory of quantum mechanics are all just crap as well..... :cuckoo:
 
Once again Evolution is a Theory it is not a fact

A scientific theory, based on mounds and mounds of observable evidence throughout the years. Scientific theories cannot actually be proven, this is true, and they can be disproven. But there is nothing at all to suggest that evolution is false, there is nothing to disprove it and much to suggest it is in fact, true.

Remember that scientific theories describe something in science. They do not provide the means of why something in a scientific theory is the way it is, they just describe it. For example, gravity is a theory, it describes how gravity works, but not why gravity works like it does.

And God is born.

Oh not at all. You can't observe God, you can't test for God. As oppose to scientific theories like gravity and evolution where we have mounds of evidence. We can observe gravity. Go and drop something on the floor. And we can observe evolution as well.
 
Repeating something that's wrong doesn't make it magically become right.

Evolution has been proven and is observable in nature, it's a basic elementary level fact.

You are correct so why do you lie about it? Evolution has not nor has ever been proven Evolution is a theory and a theory only

just like the theory of gravity, theory of relativity and theory of quantum mechanics are all just crap as well..... :cuckoo:

Sky as you know if there were a religious reason to deny those theories they would be. You'd see people with crosses jumping off buildings saying Jesus would catch them before the devil of gravity pulled them to the ground.
 
Once again Evolution is a Theory it is not a fact

Repeating something that's wrong doesn't make it magically become right.

Evolution has been proven and is observable in nature, it's a basic elementary level fact.

You are correct so why do you lie about it? Evolution has not nor has ever been proven Evolution is a theory and a theory only

since God hasnt been proven to exist, can well call him a theory as well????
 
A scientific theory, based on mounds and mounds of observable evidence throughout the years. Scientific theories cannot actually be proven, this is true, and they can be disproven. But there is nothing at all to suggest that evolution is false, there is nothing to disprove it and much to suggest it is in fact, true.

Remember that scientific theories describe something in science. They do not provide the means of why something in a scientific theory is the way it is, they just describe it. For example, gravity is a theory, it describes how gravity works, but not why gravity works like it does.

And God is born.

Oh not at all. You can't observe God, you can't test for God. As oppose to scientific theories like gravity and evolution where we have mounds of evidence. We can observe gravity. Go and drop something on the floor. And we can observe evolution as well.

My point isn't that God can or can't be observed. It's that, since we do not know the why of things, God exists.
At least in our head.
What power a notion has over the course of human life. For something that may not exist, one must admit it sure packs a punch.
;)
 
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And God is born.

Oh not at all. You can't observe God, you can't test for God. As oppose to scientific theories like gravity and evolution where we have mounds of evidence. We can observe gravity. Go and drop something on the floor. And we can observe evolution as well.

My point isn't that God can or can't be observed. It's that, since we do not know the why of things, God exists.
At least in our head.

did you just admit that god only exists in your mind???
 
And God is born.

Oh not at all. You can't observe God, you can't test for God. As oppose to scientific theories like gravity and evolution where we have mounds of evidence. We can observe gravity. Go and drop something on the floor. And we can observe evolution as well.

My point isn't that God can or can't be observed. It's that, since we do not know the why of things, God exists.
At least in our head.

People do have a habit of using the large gaps in science knowledge and plugging God into them.
 
Oh not at all. You can't observe God, you can't test for God. As oppose to scientific theories like gravity and evolution where we have mounds of evidence. We can observe gravity. Go and drop something on the floor. And we can observe evolution as well.

My point isn't that God can or can't be observed. It's that, since we do not know the why of things, God exists.
At least in our head.

People do have a habit of using the large gaps in science knowledge and plugging God into them.

can you provide an example of this?
 
Repeating something that's wrong doesn't make it magically become right.

Evolution has been proven and is observable in nature, it's a basic elementary level fact.

You are correct so why do you lie about it? Evolution has not nor has ever been proven Evolution is a theory and a theory only

just like the theory of gravity, theory of relativity and theory of quantum mechanics are all just crap as well..... :cuckoo:

Idiot I'm curious which part of "Theory" just confuses the hell out of you?
 
Repeating something that's wrong doesn't make it magically become right.

Evolution has been proven and is observable in nature, it's a basic elementary level fact.

You are correct so why do you lie about it? Evolution has not nor has ever been proven Evolution is a theory and a theory only

since God hasnt been proven to exist, can well call him a theory as well????

Gee give the idiot a Star he's catching on
 

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