The Election Was Stolen, President Is Illegitimate

Would it really have made a difference if Trump actually said the words he conceded

It would have made a difference if Trump had actually transitioned to a new President and allowed access to his staff and records.
It would have made a difference if Trump had engaged in a peaceful transfer of power without sending an angry mob to attack the Capitol.
 
That is obvious. Hillary conceded the election after about 30 hours after counts were in and congratulate Trump. President Donald Trump in his confection speech did not mention President elect Joe Biden by name or congratulate him and simple said he will take office. This was nearly two months after the election. Hillary asked for a recount in one state. Donald demanded recounts in a half dozen states, and when those recounts confirmed his loss, he went to court to try and get the recounts thrown out. During the 2 months following the election he enter 63 laws suits attempting to overturn the election results and he failed in all states. And when all other legal recourses had failed, he tried to influence Mike Pence to stop the confirmation in the Senate and when that failed he turned to his supporters who tried take the election by force.

There has never been a president that attempted to overthrow the election, by recounts, by law suites, and finally by force. Donald Trump and his gang should never be allowed within a mile of the White House.
Let me correct all of that for you. First, Hillary didn't ask for a recount in ANY state. During the campaign she had blasted Trump for not saying he would accept the election results. So, she had Jill Stein request a recount in 3 states for her, even though Jill Stein had virtually no chance of winning. At least one of those 3 states decided to stop the recount, probably for that reason. Democrats then huddled together to think of everything they could to overturn the election results (talking about the 25th amendment being just one) and even tried a few of their suggestions, including trying to convince electors to be faithless. Some democrats refused to certify the election results, similar to Trump trying to convince Pence. Hillary & Co also bought and paid for false information and lied to FISA courts to investigate Trump for colluding with Russia to influence the election.

Now, on to Trump. So what if Trump didn't mention Biden by name in his concession speech? Are you now admitting that Trump did concede the election two months later, similar to what Al Gore did? So what if Trump asked for a recount in 12 states? They don't do recounts unless state regulations say the recount fits the criteria for a recount. So what if he went to court numerous times regarding the election results? Are you saying that people don't have the right to go to court? Yes, he tried to influence Mike Pence to not certify the election results but that was because the Electoral Vote Act was a little vague on the subject and Trump tried to exploit that vagueness. Even Democrats realized after the fact that the EVA was indeed vague enough that they wanted to reform it. Trump turned to his supporters to protest the election results, which is people's legal right to protest. Some got out of hand and rioted, just as some protesters got out of hand numerous times in numerous places during many of the George Floyd protests, with some of them attacking our democracy by trying to overrun a federal court.
 
After years of dealing with his petty insults and name calling on every post, I find the best response to bripat is…….. :fu:

He seems to appreciate the middle finger, so that is what he gets
That's your response whenever you don't have any logic or facts to respond with.
View attachment 671324 … That is the perfect response to most of the comments of bripat9643. Anyone who uses a shitty avatar like his (and argues as he does) … doesn’t deserve any other response.
I use arguments that are appropriate for my audience. There's no point in using logic and facts with people who are immune to them and who just lie all the time.
 
It would have made a difference if Trump had actually transitioned to a new President and allowed access to his staff and records.
It would have made a difference if Trump had engaged in a peaceful transfer of power without sending an angry mob to attack the Capitol.
How would it have made a difference? Why should Trump help Biden appear more legitimate?
 
It would have made a difference if Trump had actually transitioned to a new President and allowed access to his staff and records.
It would have made a difference if Trump had engaged in a peaceful transfer of power without sending an angry mob to attack the Capitol.
Trump did transition to a new president and allowed access to his staff and records before Biden took office. It was just later than normal tradition as things played out in courts. Trump did not send an angry mob to attack the capitol. As with the summer's long George Floyd protests in many cities, they were "mostly peaceful" protesters where some rioters got out of hand. Trump even asked them to be peaceful and non-violent but the left somehow always seem to leave that part out.
 
Trump did transition to a new president and allowed access to his staff and records before Biden took office. It was just later than normal tradition as things played out in courts. Trump did not send an angry mob to attack the capitol. As with the summer's long George Floyd protests in many cities, they were "mostly peaceful" protesters where some rioters got out of hand. Trump even asked them to be peaceful and non-violent but the left somehow always seem to leave that part out.
Dims simply can't believe that Americans could believe they were evil enough to suspect them of any shenanigans.
 
Again, this clam is utterly absurd. He knew no such thing.
The Jan 6 hearings have shown that not only did he know they were armed but that he didn't care and actually tried to facilitate it by demanding metal detectors be removed
 
The Jan 6 hearings have shown that not only did he know they were armed but that he didn't care and actually tried to facilitate it by demanding metal detectors be removed
No it didn't, turd. That's selective interpretation by a witch hunt. The fact that some yahoo says they are armed doesn't mean they actually were.
 
They may not have USED guns...but they had them and Trump knew that

And of COURSE he sent them there.

Everyone knows that at this point.

Stop lying
Wrong, dumbass. How could he know it when no one else did? We still don't know that.
 
Trump did transition to a new president and allowed access to his staff and records before Biden took office. It was just later than normal tradition as things played out in courts. Trump did not send an angry mob to attack the capitol. As with the summer's long George Floyd protests in many cities, they were "mostly peaceful" protesters where some rioters got out of hand. Trump even asked them to be peaceful and non-violent but the left somehow always seem to leave that part out.
With critical issues like COVID and Afghanistan,Trump had no reason to delay transition to engage in his election fantasies
Trump fired up the mob and sent them to the Capitol then stood by and watched as they trashed the place
 
With critical issues like COVID and Afghanistan,Trump had no reason to delay transition to engage in his election fantasies
Trump fired up the mob and sent them to the Capitol then stood by and watched as they trashed the place
An election swindle is a perfect reason for delaying the election.
 
Wrong, dumbass. How could he know it when no one else did? We still don't know that.
The secret service was telling Trump's staff and they were telling him.

his response?

They're not going to hurt ME

And then he demanded that metal detectors be removed
 
The secret service was telling Trump's staff and they were telling him.

his response?

They're not going to hurt ME

And then he demanded that metal detectors be removed
The Secret Service didn't know either, dumbass.

Your description isn't how it went down. That's prog propaganda.
 

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