The Elusive Solution To 'Poverty'

[PoliticalChic]

Liberal welfare policy and Zeno's Paradox.
"Achilles, the fleet-footed hero of the Trojan War, is engaged in a race with a lowly tortoise, which has been granted a head start. Achilles’ task initially seems easy, but he has a problem. Before he can overtake the tortoise, he must first catch up with it. While Achilles is covering the gap between himself and the tortoise that existed at the start of the race, however, the tortoise creates a new gap. The new gap is smaller than the first, but it is still a finite distance that Achilles must cover to catch up with the animal. Achilles then races across the new gap. To Achilles’ frustration, while he was scampering across the second gap, the tortoise was establishing a third. The upshot is that Achilles can never overtake the tortoise. No matter how quickly Achilles closes each gap, the slow-but-steady tortoise will always open new, smaller ones and remain just ahead of the Greek hero.



This is a lesson for children....in this case, Liberals, folks with the mentality of a child.

If we use the actual, historic definition of poverty...no home, no heat, no food....it is a soluble problem.

If we use the Liberal (fake) definition, society must keep trying to approach the material equality of those working and earning.
"The upshot is that Achilles can never overtake the tortoise. No matter how quickly Achilles closes each gap"


Government will always keep the goal just out of reach.

Yeah, no need to improve anything. Our society should just accept that it has failed.

Liberal welfare policy is an IMPROVEMENT?????

1. A key to why ‘poverty’ ceased to decline almost as soon as the ‘War on Poverty’ began, is that the poor and lower-income population stopped working, and this led to the other deteriorating social conditions Murray cites. In 1960, almost 2/3 of lowest-income households were headed by persons who worked. http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-080.pdf
   1. By 1991, this number was down to only one third….and only 11% working full time. Nor was this due to being unable to find work, as the ‘80’s and ‘90’s were boom times.

2. “When families received guaranteed income at 90% of the poverty level, there was a 43% increase in black family dissolution and a 63% increase in white family dissolution. At 125% of the poverty levels, dissolutions were 75% and 40%.” Robert B. Carleson, “Government Is The Problem,” p. 57.


3. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.

1. 1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence. Ferrara, "Bankruptcy Bomb," chapter five
   2. "The lessons of history … show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit."
      
      These searing words about Depression-era welfare are from Franklin Roosevelt's 1935 State of the Union Address.
   3. On Dec. 7, 2012, liberalNew York Timescolumnist Nicholas Kristof offered an unexpected concession:
      “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but … America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”

 

[PoliticalChic]

22% of Democrats have received food stamps vs only 10% of Republicans, more than double. Of the total number of people who have received food stamps 31% were black, 22% Hispanic vs only 15% white. Source - Pew Research Center

Your link does not work

I have to assume it is made up

"Made up"???

Meaning a lie?

Oh...like your avi.


Here ya' go, boyyyeeeee:

81% of people receiving public housing benefits vote Democratic – and that’s just the tip of the handout iceberg
Read more at 81 of people receiving public housing benefits vote Democratic and that s just the tip of the handout iceberg Rare


In an article published before Romney’s gaffe, liberal economist Paul Krugman blogged that “Aaron Carroll of Indiana University tells us that in 2010, residents of the 10 states Gallup ranks as ‘most conservative’ received 21.2 percent of their income in government transfers, while the number for the most liberal states was only 17.1 percent.”

Romney’s comments only seemed to give the left more reason to summon up statistics like these to “prove” who the real moochers are.

But as solid as the statistics Krugman provided might seem, we’re left with one glaring problem: States aren’t people. Could it be possible that liberals within conservative states are the ones taking the welfare dollars?

A survey by the Maxwell Poll on the political affiliation of those receiving government aid showed this to be the case.

Type of Benefit Received

Percent Voting Democrat

Percent Voting Republican

Public Housing

81%

12%

Medicaid

74%

16%

Food Stamps

67%

20%

Unemployment Compensation

66%

21%

Disability (from Govt.)

64%

25%

Welfare/Public Assistance

63%

22%

Attributing the problem to red states is false; the problem lies in the blue parts of the red states.


Read more at 81 of people receiving public housing benefits vote Democratic and that s just the tip of the handout iceberg Rare

Thats super interesting

But as usual, your statistics do not support the claim that 22% of Democrats receive food stamps

How about you summarize exactly what it does support, you wind-bag?

In summary

You posted a mountain of garbage to try to make a point...it didn't

What??

Another lie from the poster whose avi starts with a lie!

Shocking.

 

[dannyboys]

And now for some reality: The 'Informal Economy' accounts for about 8% of the GDP. About 2 trillion a year.
Who are the people who are most active in this 'shadow economy?
That's right. People who don't have to go to work five days a week.
Literally millions of people are collecting Government aid and staying home to make 'real money' non-taxable that is, in the Gray economy.
There isn't one person here who isn't either making money in the Gray economy or who doesn't know someone who is.
Yes there are people who through no fault of their own are not able to hold a job let alone find one. These are the people the help was designed for. Not the people who never seem to work but always seem to have money for things poor working folk can't afford.
We all know people like this.

 

[Agit8r]

1. 1. On Dec. 7, 2012, liberalNew York Timescolumnist Nicholas Kristof offered an unexpected concession:
      “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but … America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”

If an effort doesn't succeed, there's no reason to try anything else, right?

It really is remarkable that anyone can call the war on poverty a failure of liberalism, when in fact its programs were administered by a party opposed to it for 20 of the first 28 years they were in place.