The glaring evidence that Obamacare is a catastrophic FAILURE continues to mount

[PMZ]

Some folks who are unemployed are only very briefly unemployed. But you wouldn't know about such things.

I've never been unemployed.

If someone like you can remain gainfully employed, it speaks volumes about the people that choose to stay unemployed, then claim disability, and essentially retire on the backs of the taxpayer at a very young age by making up BS claims that they can't work for this or that reason, doesn't it?

How am I different from you?

There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

 

[RKMBrown]

I've never been unemployed.

If someone like you can remain gainfully employed, it speaks volumes about the people that choose to stay unemployed, then claim disability, and essentially retire on the backs of the taxpayer at a very young age by making up BS claims that they can't work for this or that reason, doesn't it?

How am I different from you?

There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

>> There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

Ok I'm good with vagrancy laws. Criminals, yes arrest them.

 

[Meister]

If someone like you can remain gainfully employed, it speaks volumes about the people that choose to stay unemployed, then claim disability, and essentially retire on the backs of the taxpayer at a very young age by making up BS claims that they can't work for this or that reason, doesn't it?

How am I different from you?

There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

>> There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

Ok I'm good with vagrancy laws. Criminals, yes arrest them.

Illegals? Yes, prosecute them, also....I'm kinda liking this.

 

[PMZ]

How am I different from you?

There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

>> There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

Ok I'm good with vagrancy laws. Criminals, yes arrest them.

Illegals? Yes, prosecute them, also....I'm kinda liking this.

Who we ought to prosecute are businesses who hire them. They're the problem.

 

[PMZ]

If someone like you can remain gainfully employed, it speaks volumes about the people that choose to stay unemployed, then claim disability, and essentially retire on the backs of the taxpayer at a very young age by making up BS claims that they can't work for this or that reason, doesn't it?

How am I different from you?

There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

>> There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

Ok I'm good with vagrancy laws. Criminals, yes arrest them.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

Yes.

 

[RKMBrown]

How am I different from you?

There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

>> There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

Ok I'm good with vagrancy laws. Criminals, yes arrest them.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

Yes.

We were both Republicans, when they moved authoritarian I moved to the libertarian conservative views you moved to authoritarian socialist views. IOW your politics are the opposite of mine.

 

[PMZ]

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

>> There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

Ok I'm good with vagrancy laws. Criminals, yes arrest them.

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

Yes.

We were both Republicans, when they moved authoritarian I moved to the libertarian conservative views you moved to authoritarian socialist views. IOW your politics are the opposite of mine.

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

 

[Listening]

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

Yes.

We were both Republicans, when they moved authoritarian I moved to the libertarian conservative views you moved to authoritarian socialist views. IOW your politics are the opposite of mine.

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

 

[Intense]

We were both Republicans, when they moved authoritarian I moved to the libertarian conservative views you moved to authoritarian socialist views. IOW your politics are the opposite of mine.

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

It's not a question of wanting or not wanting. Who gets what, and who pays is both a matter of property rights, and conscience. When consent is taken away, what exactly is left?

 

[PMZ]

We were both Republicans, when they moved authoritarian I moved to the libertarian conservative views you moved to authoritarian socialist views. IOW your politics are the opposite of mine.

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

True. That’s why equal opportunity is what's important.

 

[PMZ]

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

It's not a question of wanting or not wanting. Who gets what, and who pays is both a matter of property rights, and conscience. When consent is taken away, what exactly is left?

If you have the power of consent, you also have the power of denial. There is nothing at all in the way of complete voluntary removal of all of the obstacles that today restrict equal access to the American dream, yet many remain despite the best efforts of wonderful people.

More is required. Other actions that not enough do voluntarily are required.

 

[Meister]

>> How am I different from you?
Seriously?

>> There are criminals in every field. Including doing nothing. I say that we arrest and convict them and have them suffer the prescribed consequences.

Ok I'm good with vagrancy laws. Criminals, yes arrest them.

Illegals? Yes, prosecute them, also....I'm kinda liking this.

Who we ought to prosecute are businesses who hire them. They're the problem.

Prosecute the both of them if they're breaking the law.

 

[BlackSand]

If you have the power of consent, you also have the power of denial. There is nothing at all in the way of complete voluntary removal of all of the obstacles that today restrict equal access to the American dream, yet many remain despite the best efforts of wonderful people.

More is required. Other actions that not enough do voluntarily are required.

The only obstacle that keeps people from the American Dream is the lack of a desire to pursue it.
The power of another to consent or deny doesn't give you the right to ask ... And you are the only thing that stands between yourself and the American Dream.

Each person has the key ... All they have to do is nut-up and use it.

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[Ernie S.]

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

True. That’s why equal opportunity is what's important.

Equal opportunity IS important. Equal outcome is impossible to guarantee.
What people achieve, given equal opportunity is up to the individual.

 

[dblack]

We were both Republicans, when they moved authoritarian I moved to the libertarian conservative views you moved to authoritarian socialist views. IOW your politics are the opposite of mine.

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

This is really is key. The core conceit of the statist is that there's one right way to live and it's up to government to force us all down that path.

 

[PMZ]

If you have the power of consent, you also have the power of denial. There is nothing at all in the way of complete voluntary removal of all of the obstacles that today restrict equal access to the American dream, yet many remain despite the best efforts of wonderful people.

More is required. Other actions that not enough do voluntarily are required.

The only obstacle that keeps people from the American Dream is the lack of a desire to pursue it.
The power of another to consent or deny doesn't give you the right to ask ... And you are the only thing that stands between yourself and the American Dream.

Each person has the key ... All they have to do is nut-up and use it.

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I find that people who think like you do, disregard the things that are fortunate about their lives because they are really big on taking credit, and acknowledging good fortune detracts, in their minds anyway, from credit.

I've never yet met anyone, who I see as notably happy, that hasn't been the recipient of good fortune as well as having the ability to accomplish what makes them happy. I know for sure that I am that way.
So, I disagree with your statement, "the only obstacle that keeps people from the American Dream is the lack of a desire to pursue it." It's just not been my experience.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It is sad that this has to happen.

It's also sad that the GOP has convinced people of "death panels", "losing freedom" and all the other hysterical nonsense that you sheep believe, that have actually made you think you hate a law that is a Republican idea.

So yeah, it's sad that a campaign needs to be waged to combat such blatant misinformation.

I've never seen a law created that also had to have propaganda to enforce it?

 

[BlackSand]

I find that people who think like you do, disregard the things that are fortunate about their lives because they are really big on taking credit, and acknowledging good fortune detracts, in their minds anyway, from credit.

I've never yet met anyone, who I see as notably happy, that hasn't been the recipient of good fortune as well as having the ability to accomplish what makes them happy. I know for sure that I am that way.
So, I disagree with your statement, "the only obstacle that keeps people from the American Dream is the lack of a desire to pursue it." It's just not been my experience.

Good fortune is what happens when you start doing the right things.

When you make a success of your life and business ... Other people want to be a part of it.
The more people that join your efforts and purchase your products, services or support your cause ... The less the chance that you will fall upon bad times you cannot overcome.
You are denying the fact that to a certain extent ... You do make your own luck.
If you take the risk ... Make a good investment ... Manage it wisely ... And succeed ... That doesn't mean it was just good luck.

Just like if you walk off into the ghetto ... Start waving around a stack of $100 bills ... If someone beats you over the head and steals your money ... It is not simply the result of bad luck.

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[PMZ]

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

True. That’s why equal opportunity is what's important.

Equal opportunity IS important. Equal outcome is impossible to guarantee.
What people achieve, given equal opportunity is up to the individual.

"Equal outcome is impossible to guarantee."

I agree that it's impossible to do perfectly. So what?

 

[PMZ]

Our politics are opposite. But, we want the same things. I want them for everyone.

But, not everybody wants or values the same things.

This is really is key. The core conceit of the statist is that there's one right way to live and it's up to government to force us all down that path.

As I've said before, I go through everyday abiding by the law and don't even notice it. There is nothing illegal that I feel compelled to do. That's true of everyone that I know too. If you are always feeling restricted from compelling actions by our law, I'd worry more about you personally, than the law.