The Hardcore Right - It'll get worse before it gets better

[Dubya]

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Radio hosts Michael Medved and Mike Rosen (KOA/Denver) are both conservative talk show hosts who avoid the whacked-out hyperbole practiced by the Limbaughs, Levins, Savages, Becks and Hannitys (the division pimps) of the world. So while they're committed partisans, they at least make the effort to be thoughtful, mature and reasonable.

In the last couple of days, however, they both had to deal with hardcore conservative callers who have been driven so over the top by their ideology (and, most likely, the aforementioned division pimps) that the talk show hosts were clearly embarrassed and had to disavow the callers.

In both cases, the talk show hosts were discussing gun control. And in both cases, the callers went into angry tirades about Obama. To paraphrase, both said something like "we all know that Marxist communist is gonna try to take our guns, and when he does, we're gonna defend ourselves against all those socialists who think they can destroy Amurrrrica." Something like that.

In both cases, the host sighed and paused, trying to find a way to respond quickly and respectfully. They then politely disagreed with the caller and moved on. I can only imagine what was going through their head, but I suspect it was something like "how do we get rid of these people?"...

Thing is, these people aren't going away. We see them here on this board, and they really believe the stuff they say. It's not a game. And they're so blinded that they don't realize how this is looking, what damage it's causing their own side.

They have to be marginalized, but how? I don't see how you get from here to there.

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The country has always had rabble like these people. Even Limbaugh is smart enough to know they are rabble and how to make money entertaining them.

 

[Mac1958]

yep... the Democrats can run as many embarrassingly dumb-fuck candidates, on the order of Sheila Jackson Lee, as they want and win their targeted campaigns...

the GOP, on the other hand, can't afford to do that...

I like your idea of giving the Republicans seminars on not saying stupid stuff. The problem is that they keep saying things that play right into their very worst stereotypes, making them an easy target. Somehow the Dems have gotten the memo not to do that and they generally do a much better job of measuring their words.

Politics, whether we like it or not, is largely about image. Right now the GOP just doesn't seem to get that fact.

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holy smokes, the Democrats got the memo not to do that...you are kidding right?
It's like i said, the media doesn't REPORT every single thing a idiot Democrat spews..
We wouldn't know about it without the Internet or Fox news..that must by why you all hate Fox so much

Goddamn Stephanie, seriously, are you capable of having a calm, reasonable conversation about ANYTHING? Do you really need to get so angry about EVERYTHING? Are you required to inject personal insults and name-calling at EVERY opportunity?

It really is possible to have a mature conversation, even with someone with whom you disagree. Really.

Cripes.

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[Stephanie]

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Radio hosts Michael Medved and Mike Rosen (KOA/Denver) are both conservative talk show hosts who avoid the whacked-out hyperbole practiced by the Limbaughs, Levins, Savages, Becks and Hannitys (the division pimps) of the world. So while they're committed partisans, they at least make the effort to be thoughtful, mature and reasonable.

In the last couple of days, however, they both had to deal with hardcore conservative callers who have been driven so over the top by their ideology (and, most likely, the aforementioned division pimps) that the talk show hosts were clearly embarrassed and had to disavow the callers.

In both cases, the talk show hosts were discussing gun control. And in both cases, the callers went into angry tirades about Obama. To paraphrase, both said something like "we all know that Marxist communist is gonna try to take our guns, and when he does, we're gonna defend ourselves against all those socialists who think they can destroy Amurrrrica." Something like that.

In both cases, the host sighed and paused, trying to find a way to respond quickly and respectfully. They then politely disagreed with the caller and moved on. I can only imagine what was going through their head, but I suspect it was something like "how do we get rid of these people?"...

Thing is, these people aren't going away. We see them here on this board, and they really believe the stuff they say. It's not a game. And they're so blinded that they don't realize how this is looking, what damage it's causing their own side.

They have to be marginalized, but how? I don't see how you get from here to there.

.

The country has always had rabble like these people. Even Limbaugh is smart enough to know they are rabble and how to make money entertaining them.

Just like Mikey Moore, Bill Maher, Stewart, Colbert, the idiot talking heads at PmsNbc, etc... laughs all the way to bank making money of you people

 

[Stephanie]

I like your idea of giving the Republicans seminars on not saying stupid stuff. The problem is that they keep saying things that play right into their very worst stereotypes, making them an easy target. Somehow the Dems have gotten the memo not to do that and they generally do a much better job of measuring their words.

Politics, whether we like it or not, is largely about image. Right now the GOP just doesn't seem to get that fact.

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holy smokes, the Democrats got the memo not to do that...you are kidding right?
It's like i said, the media doesn't REPORT every single thing a idiot Democrat spews..
We wouldn't know about it without the Internet or Fox news..that must by why you all hate Fox so much

Goddamn Stephanie, seriously, are you capable of having a calm, reasonable conversation about ANYTHING? Do you really need to get so angry about EVERYTHING? Are you required to inject personal insults and name-calling at EVERY opportunity?

It really is possible to have a mature conversation, even with someone with whom you disagree. Really.

Cripes.

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lol, not angry, blown away by some of the things you people say here..
it's like, what the hell...the Democrats got the memo not to do that...good grief

 

[bayoubill]

well yeah, because Democrat never say stupid stuff. Or the real reason is the Lapdog Media for the DNC NEVER report on it..

but who cares, you people would forgive any dumb thing a Democrat says and go all gaga over anything a Republican say..

Democrats-Misspeak
Repulicans-say dumb shit
we got it

yep... the Democrats can run as many embarrassingly dumb-fuck candidates, on the order of Sheila Jackson Lee, as they want and win their targeted campaigns...

the GOP, on the other hand, can't afford to do that...

I like your idea of giving the Republicans seminars on not saying stupid stuff. The problem is that they keep saying things that play right into their very worst stereotypes, making them an easy target. Somehow the Dems have gotten the memo not to do that and they generally do a much better job of measuring their words.

Politics, whether we like it or not, is largely about image. Right now the GOP just doesn't seem to get that fact.

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yep... they remind me of my dad... the master of saying the absolute dumbest shit at the absolute worst possible time...

 

[Mac1958]

holy smokes, the Democrats got the memo not to do that...you are kidding right?
It's like i said, the media doesn't REPORT every single thing a idiot Democrat spews..
We wouldn't know about it without the Internet or Fox news..that must by why you all hate Fox so much

Goddamn Stephanie, seriously, are you capable of having a calm, reasonable conversation about ANYTHING? Do you really need to get so angry about EVERYTHING? Are you required to inject personal insults and name-calling at EVERY opportunity?

It really is possible to have a mature conversation, even with someone with whom you disagree. Really.

Cripes.

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lol, not angry, blown away by some of the things you people say here..
it's like, what the hell...the Democrats got the memo not to do that...good grief

First of all, "got the memo" is just a figure of speech.

So, are you saying that there were not Republicans who said things that played directly into their worst stereotypes, damaging their brand? And please don't divert to the Dems. This is a direct question.

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[Dubya]

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Radio hosts Michael Medved and Mike Rosen (KOA/Denver) are both conservative talk show hosts who avoid the whacked-out hyperbole practiced by the Limbaughs, Levins, Savages, Becks and Hannitys (the division pimps) of the world. So while they're committed partisans, they at least make the effort to be thoughtful, mature and reasonable.

In the last couple of days, however, they both had to deal with hardcore conservative callers who have been driven so over the top by their ideology (and, most likely, the aforementioned division pimps) that the talk show hosts were clearly embarrassed and had to disavow the callers.

In both cases, the talk show hosts were discussing gun control. And in both cases, the callers went into angry tirades about Obama. To paraphrase, both said something like "we all know that Marxist communist is gonna try to take our guns, and when he does, we're gonna defend ourselves against all those socialists who think they can destroy Amurrrrica." Something like that.

In both cases, the host sighed and paused, trying to find a way to respond quickly and respectfully. They then politely disagreed with the caller and moved on. I can only imagine what was going through their head, but I suspect it was something like "how do we get rid of these people?"...

Thing is, these people aren't going away. We see them here on this board, and they really believe the stuff they say. It's not a game. And they're so blinded that they don't realize how this is looking, what damage it's causing their own side.

They have to be marginalized, but how? I don't see how you get from here to there.

.

The country has always had rabble like these people. Even Limbaugh is smart enough to know they are rabble and how to make money entertaining them.

Just like Mikey Moore, Bill Maher, Stewart, Colbert, the idiot talking heads at PmsNbc, etc... laughs all the way to bank making money of you people

You obviously don't know what the rabble are. They are uneducated, ignorant people who refuse to learn and go around treating their stupidity like it's wisdom.

 

[Stephanie]

Goddamn Stephanie, seriously, are you capable of having a calm, reasonable conversation about ANYTHING? Do you really need to get so angry about EVERYTHING? Are you required to inject personal insults and name-calling at EVERY opportunity?

It really is possible to have a mature conversation, even with someone with whom you disagree. Really.

Cripes.

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lol, not angry, blown away by some of the things you people say here..
it's like, what the hell...the Democrats got the memo not to do that...good grief

First of all, "got the memo" is just a figure of speech.

So, are you saying that there were not Republicans who said things that played directly into their worst stereotypes, damaging their brand? And please don't divert to the Dems. This is a direct question.

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Of course, but it is the media and you people who harp and harp on it to death to further your agenda..Take the thing with Fluke, the Republicans didn't say that, but you all made it out like it WAS..Now Maher, a million dollar donor to Obama and Democrats calls Palin a Cxxt, you all say oh he doesn't speak for Democrats..
Democrats don't have to do anything when they have so many sheep and the media who will do it for them

 

[bayoubill]

The country has always had rabble like these people. Even Limbaugh is smart enough to know they are rabble and how to make money entertaining them.

Just like Mikey Moore, Bill Maher, Stewart, Colbert, the idiot talking heads at PmsNbc, etc... laughs all the way to bank making money of you people

You obviously don't know what the rabble are. They are uneducated, ignorant people who refuse to learn and go around treating their stupidity like it's wisdom.

you mean like this...?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio]Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube[/ame]

 

[zeke]

I like your idea of giving the Republicans seminars on not saying stupid stuff. The problem is that they keep saying things that play right into their very worst stereotypes, making them an easy target. Somehow the Dems have gotten the memo not to do that and they generally do a much better job of measuring their words.

Politics, whether we like it or not, is largely about image. Right now the GOP just doesn't seem to get that fact.

.

holy smokes, the Democrats got the memo not to do that...you are kidding right?
It's like i said, the media doesn't REPORT every single thing a idiot Democrat spews..
We wouldn't know about it without the Internet or Fox news..that must by why you all hate Fox so much

Goddamn Stephanie, seriously, are you capable of having a calm, reasonable conversation about ANYTHING? Do you really need to get so angry about EVERYTHING? Are you required to inject personal insults and name-calling at EVERY opportunity?

It really is possible to have a mature conversation, even with someone with whom you disagree. Really.

Cripes.

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LMAO. Hope springs eternal with you eh Mac? Even for Staphinfectionay. But you have to remember, reasonable conversation requires original thought. And it helps if you are not a hater, and it does seem that staph hates everbody that does not share her warped opinion of the world. IMO anyway.

Prove me wrong steph. Say something that doesn't start with; the Dems did.........

 

[Stephanie]

holy smokes, the Democrats got the memo not to do that...you are kidding right?
It's like i said, the media doesn't REPORT every single thing a idiot Democrat spews..
We wouldn't know about it without the Internet or Fox news..that must by why you all hate Fox so much

Goddamn Stephanie, seriously, are you capable of having a calm, reasonable conversation about ANYTHING? Do you really need to get so angry about EVERYTHING? Are you required to inject personal insults and name-calling at EVERY opportunity?

It really is possible to have a mature conversation, even with someone with whom you disagree. Really.

Cripes.

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LMAO. Hope springs eternal with you eh Mac? Even for Staphinfectionay. But you have to remember, reasonable conversation requires original thought. And it helps if you are not a hater, and it does seem that staph hates everbody that does not share her warped opinion of the world. IMO anyway.

Prove me wrong steph. Say something that doesn't start with; the Dems did.........

Your hardon for me and stalking is very creepy

 

[Stephanie]

The country has always had rabble like these people. Even Limbaugh is smart enough to know they are rabble and how to make money entertaining them.

Just like Mikey Moore, Bill Maher, Stewart, Colbert, the idiot talking heads at PmsNbc, etc... laughs all the way to bank making money of you people

You obviously don't know what the rabble are. They are uneducated, ignorant people who refuse to learn and go around treating their stupidity like it's wisdom.

that would be most of Obama's base

 

[LoneLaugher]

Just like Mikey Moore, Bill Maher, Stewart, Colbert, the idiot talking heads at PmsNbc, etc... laughs all the way to bank making money of you people

You obviously don't know what the rabble are. They are uneducated, ignorant people who refuse to learn and go around treating their stupidity like it's wisdom.

you mean like this...?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio]Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube[/ame]

Embarrassing for any American to know that there are fellow Americans who have such a low level of knowledge. Fortunately, the decision makers who design campaigns over at the DNC do not consider such voters to be their base.

 

[Dubya]

Just like Mikey Moore, Bill Maher, Stewart, Colbert, the idiot talking heads at PmsNbc, etc... laughs all the way to bank making money of you people

You obviously don't know what the rabble are. They are uneducated, ignorant people who refuse to learn and go around treating their stupidity like it's wisdom.

you mean like this...?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio]Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube[/ame]

That woman is drunk. Rabble act like that when sober and it doesn't have to be loud like that, it can be quietly spreading their ignorance.

 

[zeke]

Goddamn Stephanie, seriously, are you capable of having a calm, reasonable conversation about ANYTHING? Do you really need to get so angry about EVERYTHING? Are you required to inject personal insults and name-calling at EVERY opportunity?

It really is possible to have a mature conversation, even with someone with whom you disagree. Really.

Cripes.

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LMAO. Hope springs eternal with you eh Mac? Even for Staphinfectionay. But you have to remember, reasonable conversation requires original thought. And it helps if you are not a hater, and it does seem that staph hates everbody that does not share her warped opinion of the world. IMO anyway.

Prove me wrong steph. Say something that doesn't start with; the Dems did.........

Your hardon for me and stalking is very creepy

LMAO again. Staph, I can't help it that you always want to prove what an ass you are. And seeing as how I enjoy reading what Mac has to say, and you always show up to try to slam Mac, you just make it to easy to use you as an example of exactly what Mac has been discussing. Rethugs have gone bat shit crazy.

I do the same with snippy. So don't feel so special. Quit saying such stupid shit and no one will pick on you. Hell, you might even add something to a convesation worth reading.
I doubt it, but you might. Go for it.

But don't whine. Cause you sure like to hand the shit out so you better be able to take it.

 

[Stephanie]

LMAO. Hope springs eternal with you eh Mac? Even for Staphinfectionay. But you have to remember, reasonable conversation requires original thought. And it helps if you are not a hater, and it does seem that staph hates everbody that does not share her warped opinion of the world. IMO anyway.

Prove me wrong steph. Say something that doesn't start with; the Dems did.........

Your hardon for me and stalking is very creepy

LMAO again. Staph, I can't help it that you always want to prove what an ass you are. And seeing as how I enjoy reading what Mac has to say, and you always show up to try to slam Mac, you just make it to easy to use you as an example of exactly what Mac has been discussing. Rethugs have gone bat shit crazy.

I do the same with snippy. So don't feel so special. Quit saying such stupid shit and no one will pick on you. Hell, you might even add something to a convesation worth reading.
I doubt it, but you might. Go for it.

But don't whine. Cause you sure like to hand the shit out so you better be able to take it.

Listen up dumb ass, I don't give a shit what you do..If this is your mission in life..carry on with your idiot self

 

[bayoubill]

You obviously don't know what the rabble are. They are uneducated, ignorant people who refuse to learn and go around treating their stupidity like it's wisdom.

you mean like this...?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio]Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube[/ame]

Embarrassing for any American to know that there are fellow Americans who have such a low level of knowledge. Fortunately, the decision makers who design campaigns over at the DNC do not consider such voters to be their base.

As embarrassing as it may be to the DNC, people like that are the DNC's base... it's guaranteed... and to say otherwise is bullshit...

but, of course, they don't have to design their campaigns towards such people... they need to go after the middle 20%... as do their GOP counterparts...

 

[zeke]

Your hardon for me and stalking is very creepy

LMAO again. Staph, I can't help it that you always want to prove what an ass you are. And seeing as how I enjoy reading what Mac has to say, and you always show up to try to slam Mac, you just make it to easy to use you as an example of exactly what Mac has been discussing. Rethugs have gone bat shit crazy.

I do the same with snippy. So don't feel so special. Quit saying such stupid shit and no one will pick on you. Hell, you might even add something to a convesation worth reading.
I doubt it, but you might. Go for it.

But don't whine. Cause you sure like to hand the shit out so you better be able to take it.

Listen up dumb ass, I don't give a shit what you do..If this is your mission in life..carry on with your idiot self

QUIT WHINING STEPH. Speaking of mission in life. 29000+ posts steph. Just what is your "mission".

 

[LoneLaugher]

you mean like this...?

Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube

Embarrassing for any American to know that there are fellow Americans who have such a low level of knowledge. Fortunately, the decision makers who design campaigns over at the DNC do not consider such voters to be their base.

As embarrassing as it may be to the DNC, people like that are the DNC's base... it's guaranteed... and to say otherwise is bullshit...

but, of course, they don't have to design their campaigns towards such people... they need to go after the middle 20%... as do their GOP counterparts...

You are wrong.

 

[Oldguy]

You obviously don't know what the rabble are. They are uneducated, ignorant people who refuse to learn and go around treating their stupidity like it's wisdom.

you mean like this...?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio]Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone - YouTube[/ame]

Embarrassing for any American to know that there are fellow Americans who have such a low level of knowledge. Fortunately, the decision makers who design campaigns over at the DNC do not consider such voters to be their base.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y]9.12 DC TEA PARTY - March Footage with Interviews - YouTube[/ame]