The Homosexual Dilemma

[bodecea]

So having to bake a cake is equal to not having equality because one is attracted to one's own gender?

"Having" to bake a cake, is forcing someone to do something that they don't want to do... which is forced servitude. Try that in my shop and see how it goes for ya.

Are you saying that gay marriage is a slippery slope to Christian slavery?

Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

Actually. here, it's what the State defines it as, unless you want a non-binding one without legal support like a church thing or whatever else you came up with. That is what is pissing people off, the states have figured out that fags have equal rights.

Yes. It wasn't well made, but my point was he doesn't get to define what marriage is for others.

Actually I do. It's called democracy.

So, you don't know that we are not a democracy? We are a Constitutional Republic. Didn't you take government?

 

[bodecea]

You ask many people, perhaps even most, they'll tell you that they don't care what people do in the privacy of their bedroom, they just don't want it rubbed in their face.

So what has the homosexual movement been doing for the past several years?

Yeah, you got it.

Consider how pervasive the gay agenda has become.

1. The forcing of gay marriage not by persuasion and winning hearts and minds, but through judicial activism. Never in U.S. history has there ever been an overturning of the will of the people that didn't lead to war.

2. Workplaces have become a nightmare as gays and transgenders are given special rights and considerations and political correctness is enforced so that everyone is forced to walk on eggshells

3. Schools. Now parents have to wonder if their teenage daughter has to share the girls restroom with a boy who thinks he's a girl. The homosexual and transgender agenda is pushed unabashed onto young minds.

4. Football. Players seek fame not the old fashioned way, through athletic accomplishment, but by "coming out". Since when is being homosexual an accomplishment?

5. Homosexuality pervades our media, our television, and virtually all facets of American life. Why do these people think they're so important? What if Christians or Jews acted like this?

But I haven't even gotten to the dilemma. Gay activists have noted a rise in anger toward homosexuals and point to it as proof that the nation is riddled with homophobia. They fail to notice that the rise in anti homosexual sentiment happened in direct proportion and timing to the belligerence of the gay movement. When people said they don't want homosexuals' lifestyle shoved in their faces, they meant it.

Conservatives don't hate homosexuals, we just don't care as long as it's kept private. But here the aggressive homosexual lobby has made sure that it's our business. So now we're noticing you and now we're pissed.

If you homos had any inkling what unrelenting instigating assholes you've become, you'd blush in embarrassment. But instead, you take the reaction of people who are sick of hearing about you as proof that you have more work to do. Talk about a destructive circular paradox!

So I have something to say to you on behalf of America. F*** you.

BTW, Notice the picture? Even Kenyans don't like things being shoved in their faces.

Consider how those who describe themselves as homophobic are always more turned on by gay porn than self-identified gay men. They conceal they're own homosexuality by coming out (heh) against it.

We're on to you.

Who describes themselves as homophobic?

Who describes themselves as racist?
Who describes themselves as misogynist?
Who describes themselves as ageist?
Who describes themselves as anti-semetic?

Who describes themselves as faggot?

Ah....apples and oranges.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

So having to bake a cake is equal to not having equality because one is attracted to one's own gender?

"Having" to bake a cake, is forcing someone to do something that they don't want to do... which is forced servitude. Try that in my shop and see how it goes for ya.

Are you saying that gay marriage is a slippery slope to Christian slavery?

Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

No, it's not like that at all

The lack of "gay marriage" has not kept anyone single. You people pair up with or without a piece of paper.

So you don't believe that gay Americans should be afforded the SAME 1000+ rights and protections that Straight Americans can get thru a simple legal marriage license.

They have the same rights. Marriage laws that say that any person can marry any unrelated person of the opposite sex is not discriminating against anyone since it applies to everyone regardless of race, gender, or even sexual orientation. So no, you've never been denied a single right. Your whole weeping cortege is based on pure bullshit.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

"Having" to bake a cake, is forcing someone to do something that they don't want to do... which is forced servitude. Try that in my shop and see how it goes for ya.

Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

Actually. here, it's what the State defines it as, unless you want a non-binding one without legal support like a church thing or whatever else you came up with. That is what is pissing people off, the states have figured out that fags have equal rights.

Yes. It wasn't well made, but my point was he doesn't get to define what marriage is for others.

Actually I do. It's called democracy.

So, you don't know that we are not a democracy? We are a Constitutional Republic. Didn't you take government?

Yes. Did you? Laws are decided by the democratic process, not activist judges. Go back to school because you have no clue how our government works.

 

[bodecea]

So having to bake a cake is equal to not having equality because one is attracted to one's own gender?

"Having" to bake a cake, is forcing someone to do something that they don't want to do... which is forced servitude. Try that in my shop and see how it goes for ya.

Are you saying that gay marriage is a slippery slope to Christian slavery?

Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

No, it's not like that at all

The lack of "gay marriage" has not kept anyone single. You people pair up with or without a piece of paper.

So you don't believe that gay Americans should be afforded the SAME 1000+ rights and protections that Straight Americans can get thru a simple legal marriage license.

They have the same rights. Marriage laws that say that any person can marry any unrelated person of the opposite sex is not discriminating against anyone since it applies to everyone regardless of race, gender, or even sexual orientation. So no, you've never been denied a single right. Your whole weeping cortege is based on pure bullshit.

So...blacks and whites had the same rights before Loving v. Virginia? Blacks couldn't marry outside their race and Whites couldn't marry outside their race either. Is that what you are asserting?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

Actually. here, it's what the State defines it as, unless you want a non-binding one without legal support like a church thing or whatever else you came up with. That is what is pissing people off, the states have figured out that fags have equal rights.

Yes. It wasn't well made, but my point was he doesn't get to define what marriage is for others.

Actually I do. It's called democracy.

So, you don't know that we are not a democracy? We are a Constitutional Republic. Didn't you take government?

Yes. Did you? Laws are decided by the democratic process, not activist judges. Go back to school because you have no clue how our government works.

Really? What was the last law you helped write? Oh, you never have? Right, and you never will Chief Sellout. Go back to fucking school, the Rez one failed you.

 

[bodecea]

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

Actually. here, it's what the State defines it as, unless you want a non-binding one without legal support like a church thing or whatever else you came up with. That is what is pissing people off, the states have figured out that fags have equal rights.

Yes. It wasn't well made, but my point was he doesn't get to define what marriage is for others.

Actually I do. It's called democracy.

So, you don't know that we are not a democracy? We are a Constitutional Republic. Didn't you take government?

Yes. Did you? Laws are decided by the democratic process, not activist judges. Go back to school because you have no clue how our government works.

Laws are decided by the Legislative branch of our government...or by propositions (such as in CA)...but, because of the Checks and Balances set up in the Constitution, the Judicial Branch has the power of Judicial Review. UnConstitutional laws cannot be enforced. Judges do not create laws....but they sure can decide whether a law is Constitutional or not. You need to go back to school yourself.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

"Having" to bake a cake, is forcing someone to do something that they don't want to do... which is forced servitude. Try that in my shop and see how it goes for ya.

Marriage is the joining of one man and one woman.

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

No, it's not like that at all

The lack of "gay marriage" has not kept anyone single. You people pair up with or without a piece of paper.

So you don't believe that gay Americans should be afforded the SAME 1000+ rights and protections that Straight Americans can get thru a simple legal marriage license.

They have the same rights. Marriage laws that say that any person can marry any unrelated person of the opposite sex is not discriminating against anyone since it applies to everyone regardless of race, gender, or even sexual orientation. So no, you've never been denied a single right. Your whole weeping cortege is based on pure bullshit.

So...blacks and whites had the same rights before Loving v. Virginia? Blacks couldn't marry outside their race and Whites couldn't marry outside their race either. Is that what you are asserting?

Listen, Fish Breath, I know it's hard for you to finesse the difference, but discrimination by race is unconstitutional, discrimination by lifestyle isn't. Get it?

No, you don't get it, do you?

Can't dumb it down any further than that, Trout.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

No, it's not like that at all

The lack of "gay marriage" has not kept anyone single. You people pair up with or without a piece of paper.

So you don't believe that gay Americans should be afforded the SAME 1000+ rights and protections that Straight Americans can get thru a simple legal marriage license.

They have the same rights. Marriage laws that say that any person can marry any unrelated person of the opposite sex is not discriminating against anyone since it applies to everyone regardless of race, gender, or even sexual orientation. So no, you've never been denied a single right. Your whole weeping cortege is based on pure bullshit.

So...blacks and whites had the same rights before Loving v. Virginia? Blacks couldn't marry outside their race and Whites couldn't marry outside their race either. Is that what you are asserting?

Listen, Fish Breath, I know it's hard for you to finesse the difference, but discrimination by race is unconstitutional, discrimination by lifestyle isn't. Get it?

No, you don't get it, do you?

Can't dumb it down any further than that, Trout.

Funny, Chief Sellout, the courts disagree and there's not a fucking thing you can do about it.

 

[bodecea]

Kinda like forcing someone to remain single instead marrying the person he/she loves?

Marriage is whatever the people marrying define it as.

No, it's not like that at all

The lack of "gay marriage" has not kept anyone single. You people pair up with or without a piece of paper.

So you don't believe that gay Americans should be afforded the SAME 1000+ rights and protections that Straight Americans can get thru a simple legal marriage license.

They have the same rights. Marriage laws that say that any person can marry any unrelated person of the opposite sex is not discriminating against anyone since it applies to everyone regardless of race, gender, or even sexual orientation. So no, you've never been denied a single right. Your whole weeping cortege is based on pure bullshit.

So...blacks and whites had the same rights before Loving v. Virginia? Blacks couldn't marry outside their race and Whites couldn't marry outside their race either. Is that what you are asserting?

Listen, Fish Breath, I know it's hard for you to finesse the difference, but discrimination by race is unconstitutional, discrimination by lifestyle isn't. Get it?

No, you don't get it, do you?

Can't dumb it down any further than that, Trout.

How are civil rights different for race than for gender?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

No, it's not like that at all

The lack of "gay marriage" has not kept anyone single. You people pair up with or without a piece of paper.

So you don't believe that gay Americans should be afforded the SAME 1000+ rights and protections that Straight Americans can get thru a simple legal marriage license.

They have the same rights. Marriage laws that say that any person can marry any unrelated person of the opposite sex is not discriminating against anyone since it applies to everyone regardless of race, gender, or even sexual orientation. So no, you've never been denied a single right. Your whole weeping cortege is based on pure bullshit.

So...blacks and whites had the same rights before Loving v. Virginia? Blacks couldn't marry outside their race and Whites couldn't marry outside their race either. Is that what you are asserting?

Listen, Fish Breath, I know it's hard for you to finesse the difference, but discrimination by race is unconstitutional, discrimination by lifestyle isn't. Get it?

No, you don't get it, do you?

Can't dumb it down any further than that, Trout.

How are civil rights different for race than for gender?

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

 

[g5000]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

 

[bodecea]

So you don't believe that gay Americans should be afforded the SAME 1000+ rights and protections that Straight Americans can get thru a simple legal marriage license.

They have the same rights. Marriage laws that say that any person can marry any unrelated person of the opposite sex is not discriminating against anyone since it applies to everyone regardless of race, gender, or even sexual orientation. So no, you've never been denied a single right. Your whole weeping cortege is based on pure bullshit.

So...blacks and whites had the same rights before Loving v. Virginia? Blacks couldn't marry outside their race and Whites couldn't marry outside their race either. Is that what you are asserting?

Listen, Fish Breath, I know it's hard for you to finesse the difference, but discrimination by race is unconstitutional, discrimination by lifestyle isn't. Get it?

No, you don't get it, do you?

Can't dumb it down any further than that, Trout.

How are civil rights different for race than for gender?

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They were......blacks could not marry whites and whites could not marry blacks up to Loving v. Virginia. Guess what happened then?

 

[bodecea]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

They also used religion as an excuse to make inter-racial marriages illegal.

 

[Redfish]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

They also used religion as an excuse to make inter-racial marriages illegal.

race and sex are not analogous

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

They also used religion as an excuse to make inter-racial marriages illegal.

race and sex are not analogous

Explain civil rights protecting religion? Most often a Lifestyle. Oh, you can't? Yeah, we knew that.

 

[Redfish]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

a union of two men or two women is NOT a marriage. They should be able to legally commit to each other and have that union recognized, but it is NOT a marriage.

why is the word "marriage" so critical to the gay agenda? A civil union gives you all of the rights you claim to want.

But thats not what this is about is it? the gay agenda is about forced societal acceptance of homosexuality as a normal human condition. Thats your real agenda, admit it and then we can move forward.

But you won't admit it, because you know that homosexuality is not a normal human condition

 

[g5000]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

a union of two men or two women is NOT a marriage.

Yes, it is. Sorry about that!

They should be able to legally commit to each other and have that union recognized, but it is NOT a marriage.

Your stupid little semantics game is transparent.

If you folks down at Westboro Baptist don't want to call a gay marriage a marriage, that's your right. But you don't get to force them not to call their marriage a marriage.

As for having their union recognized, that won't be true until they receive the exact same state and federal government cash and prizes we heteros get for being married.

That's all they want. You can stomp your feet and blow a lot of retard smoke about the word "marriage", but until you get it through your thick skull that that is all they want then you will continue to sound like a retard.

Now focus: Government cash and prizes. They want the same. "Equal protection of the laws."

Get that through your head. It isn't about a word, idiot. It is about tangible things. Real world shit that actually matters. Legal stuff.

 

[g5000]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

They also used religion as an excuse to make inter-racial marriages illegal.

The bigot's rhetoric against same sex marriage is identical to the rhetoric against interracial marriage.

 

[Redfish]

Because no gender is being told they can't marry.

They are being told which gender they cannot marry. That is gender discrimination.

No different than being told what race you have to marry.

Your argument is as stupid as when interracial marriages were illegal and some bigoted idiot (redundant phrase) like you would say, "No race is being told they can't marry."

They also used religion as an excuse to make inter-racial marriages illegal.

The bigot's rhetoric against same sex marriage is identical to the rhetoric against interracial marriage.

not its not, but your bigoted support of gay marriage does resemble that foolishness.