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Hate speech laws in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaI certainly didn't say they were banning the flag...........I said that it is a slippery slope of Freedom of Expression..............We had those pushing to ban certain symbols and even speech in this country..............Doesn't make it so, but it wasn't so before they did that very thing in Europe.............................The Confederate Flag is being banned?
I don't know of anyone serious who has even suggested that it be "banned".
Which is why we should be careful in this regards.............................
From the onset of this.................the Flag flies over a Confederate Memorial.................and I have absolutely no problem with that as it is part of our history...................Does taking the flag down change that history..........would it have saved those people.....................
This is about a media blitz over a lunatic that killed people and NOTHING MORE.
What is this "slippery slope" you're talking about?
What is it that you think is going to lead to "Europe"?
Statutes[edit]
In England, Wales, and Scotland, the Public Order Act 1986 prohibits, by its Part 3, expressions of racial hatred, which is defined as hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins. Section 18 of the Act says:
A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or
(b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.
Offences under Part 3 carry a maximum sentence of seven years imprisonment or a fine or both.[6]
The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 inserted Section 4A into the Public Order Act 1986. That part prohibits anyone from causing alarm or distress. Section 4A states:
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he— (a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.
A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to both.[7]
What is happening today doesn't do that.............It doesn't ban anything....................but a movement along these lines could..................Which is what I was referring to...............
Now I answered your question................Now answer the ones I posted...............
Does taking the flag down change anything.................Would that lunatic still have been a lunatic.....................I stated it changes NOTHING.
They have the right to complain about the flag...................and my concern is that they will push it further......which is the slippery slope I say we should be careful of......................That later we take it to the next level and then do as they have done in Europe..................which was my point and my concern............Hate speech laws in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia the free encyclopediaI certainly didn't say they were banning the flag...........I said that it is a slippery slope of Freedom of Expression..............We had those pushing to ban certain symbols and even speech in this country..............Doesn't make it so, but it wasn't so before they did that very thing in Europe.............................The Confederate Flag is being banned?
I don't know of anyone serious who has even suggested that it be "banned".
Which is why we should be careful in this regards.............................
From the onset of this.................the Flag flies over a Confederate Memorial.................and I have absolutely no problem with that as it is part of our history...................Does taking the flag down change that history..........would it have saved those people.....................
This is about a media blitz over a lunatic that killed people and NOTHING MORE.
What is this "slippery slope" you're talking about?
What is it that you think is going to lead to "Europe"?
Statutes[edit]
In England, Wales, and Scotland, the Public Order Act 1986 prohibits, by its Part 3, expressions of racial hatred, which is defined as hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins. Section 18 of the Act says:
A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or
(b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.
Offences under Part 3 carry a maximum sentence of seven years imprisonment or a fine or both.[6]
The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 inserted Section 4A into the Public Order Act 1986. That part prohibits anyone from causing alarm or distress. Section 4A states:
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he— (a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or (b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.
A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to both.[7]
What is happening today doesn't do that.............It doesn't ban anything....................but a movement along these lines could..................Which is what I was referring to...............
Now I answered your question................Now answer the ones I posted...............
Does taking the flag down change anything.................Would that lunatic still have been a lunatic.....................I stated it changes NOTHING.
You didn't answer my question.
I asked what it was that you think is "happening" here and now that will somehow lead to banning speech.
So far, I see a lot of people using their freedom of speech to complain about the flag. What do you suggest should be done about it?
Seems now that lessons learned from the shooting in Charleston it is all about the Confederate Flag.
Seems that the liberals are overjoyed that their hated flag is being banned and all it took was the death of 9 innocent blacks. I wonder how many sacrificial lambs the Liberals would accept to get their deed done. I wonder how many sacrificial lambs the Liberals would accept to get guns banned?
I don't think that applies here. You really are a dumb one.To Liberals the end always justifies the means
So people who don't like symbols of white supremacy caused 9 people to die at the hands of a white supremacist.One lesson I've learned. The confederate flag is not the problem. Those who think the flag is a problem, is the problem.
The Constitution is the highest law in the land. Sorry.Racist Chanting At SAE Shows The Need For A Hate Speech Law In America Thought Catalog
Recently, a video surfaced of students at the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity performing an appalling racist chant on video: “There will never be a ****** SAE/There will never be a ****** SAE/You can hang him from a tree/But he’ll never sign with me/There will never be a ****** SAE”. Obviously, this goes way beyond the limits of acceptable freedom of speech. In any other country, this would result in everyone who performed the chant being taken before a government Human Rights Commission and given a hefty prison sentence for willfully inciting racist hatred and violence against vulnerable minorities. In the UK, they would be prosecuted by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. In Australia, they would be prosecuted by the Australian Human Rights Commission. In New Zealand, they would be prosecuted by the New Zealand Human Rights Commission. In Canada, they would be prosecuted by a Human Rights Tribunal, which each Canadian provice has in order to prosecute hate speech. EVERY single other country in the world would have pressed charges against these students under human rights legislation. In the US, however, this was not the case. There are no human rights laws in the US, and there is no American Human Rights Commission to prosecute people for hate speech. Not only did these students not face any legal punishment whatsoever, but it’s even being said that the school cannot punish them either, as doing so would violate their “freedom of speech”. To say that this is completely incompatible with international human rights standards would be a massive understatement. Not only does this violate basic human rights principles, but it also explicitly violates international human rights law, which mandates a wide range of legal protections against hate speech. By not prosecuting these SAE students who participated in a racist rant, the United States is blatantly violating its obligations under legally-binding international human rights conventions.
Does the United States believe that it’s somehow exempt from international law? Because I can assure Americans that that is not, in fact, the case. As the United Nations has stated many,many times, international law has absolute authority, and all nations are absolutely required to outlaw all forms of hate speech.
