The Low Voter Turnout,.

[Flopper]

Most of the people who didn't vote are voting against A and B. The Democrats in Congress have done practically nothing in the last 2 years primarily because Republicans have stopped them. Likewise Republicans have done nothing but block Democrat legislation.

So at a cost of $30 millions a day congress spent two years creating bills they know will never become law, meeting with staff, meeting with reporters, meeting with constituents, attending committee meetings, meeting with lobbyist, holding press conferences, and of course, campaigning for the next election. The one thing they have not done is their job, creating meaningful legislation and next two years don't look any better.

Most of the legislation congress does manage to create is not meaningful nor productive. I would kind of prefer that congress and the president remain at a stalemate rather than creating crappy law.

I would prefer, and apparently so would America, that bills passed by the House received due process in the Senate, which has not happened as Harry Reid has blocked legislation from being voted on, and possibly reaching President "Present".

No more of that shit now, Obama will have to veto bills in full view of the people.

Republicans have only 52 seats in the Senate. That's not much of a majority. It takes 60 seats for a super majority to stop debate which is unlimited in the Senate. Senate members are far more independent than House members, probably due to their 6 year terms. You can't count on all Republicans in the Senate voting in lock step the way House members often do. On many pieces of legislation, Republicans will need independents and Democrats which means compromises.

Obama will soon become a lame duck president. I doubt he will have any problem using his veto power.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Spin spin spin.......................................................

 

[Rikurzhen]

There were more Blacks, Latinos, Asians and young people who usually vote Dem, voted Repub this time.
Your argument does not wash.
There is always a low voter turn out for mid terms.

Actually that's a misleading claim. Actually, about the same number of Blacks, Asians, young people, and women voted for Republicans as vote for Republicans in every election. That's kinda what the Republicans have going for them. Their base is steady. They can always count on them, in every election.

However, since fewer Blacks, Latinos, Asians, women, and especially young people voted in this election - as often happens during a mid-term election - the percentage of those demographics which "voted Republican" were, understandably higher.

My premise still stands.

Your premise, and supporting arguments, are comical. How did I miss this thread?

National exit polling of voters in House races last night found that almost half of Asian-Americans -- 49 percent -- supported the Republican candidate. This is about twice the share who supported Mitt Romney in exit polling conducted after the 2012 presidential election.

In 2012, Democrats enjoyed a wide margin over Republicans; 71 percent of Hispanics voted for Obama to 27 percent for Romney - a 44 percent advantage for the Dems. But as NBC News' Carrie Dann reports, in Tuesday's elections Hispanics voted for Democrats by a margin of 28 percent.​

• In 2012, 93 percent of blacks cast ballots for President Obama, with 6 percent voting for Romney. In the 2010 midterm, the split was 91-9.
• In 2014, Republicans saw a very slight bump nationally among African-American voters, who were 12 percent of the electorate. Ten percent of African Americans voted Republican, with 89 percent voting Democratic.

Let me explain to you the central flaw of your argument. A man who hates another man will attack him, a man who like another man will come to his defense when he sees him being attacked and a man who doesn't like another man will stay on the sidelines watching someone attack the other man.

All your Democratic voters had the opportunity to come out and affirm the liberal agenda and they weren't interested in doing so. Choosing to no longer defend what they used to defend is indeed a rejection of the liberal agenda, it's just not yet a total rejection which comes with voting Republican.

 

[jon_berzerk]

omg. it JUST CAN'T be the voters REJECTED the Dem/commie AGENDA.

there must be another EXCUSE

FACE IT, they rejected your Fascist commie Socialist AGENDA. They started IN 2010 but you didn't learn then and came up the same lame ass excuses. Well THEY TOTALLY rejected your asses and agenda this time

now get used to it. you have been REJECTED....bye bye

maybe it was the weather --LOL

 

[Plasmaball]

obama's voter base didn't show up if they did they were voting Republican
Young voters

Most strikingly, voters 18-29 nationwide were only 13 percent of the electorate in 2014 (compared to nearly a quarter for GOP-leaning seniors.) In the 2010 midterms, when Democrats lost a combined 69 House and Senate seats, young voters made up 12 percent of the voting public. In contrast, during Obama’s re-election victory in 2012, nearly one in five voters was under 30.

In some key Senate races, young voters participated at an even lower rate.

Those voters 18-29 showed up even below that national number in North Carolina (12 percent of the electorate

*** Single women

More than one-in-five voters this cycle – 21 percent of the electorate -- was an unmarried woman, and a majority -- 60 to 38 percent – voted for Democrats.

Single women made up 23 percent of the electorate during Obama’s 2012 coalition, and they broke significantly harder for Obama in 2012 than for Senate and House Democrats in 2010. Then, 67 percent supported Obama, versus 31 percent for Romney.

*** African Americans

This cycle, black voters made up 12 percent of the national electorate. That’s compared to 11 percent in 2010 and 13 percent in 2012. Democrats particularly needed high black turnout in Southern states like Georgia and North Carolina.

Because exit poll data isn’t available for many of those states – which weren’t contested in the 2008 and 2012 presidential election – it’s not possible to make an apples-to-apples comparison to past presidential contests.

But here’s one data point we do have: In North Carolina, where Democrat Kay Hagan lost her seat to Republican Thom Tillis, black voters made up 21 percent of the electorate. In 2012, that figure was 23 percent.
Where Were All the Dems Here s Who Turned Up to Vote - NBC News

You made the ops point for him you stupid fuck.

 

[Plasmaball]

There were more Blacks, Latinos, Asians and young people who usually vote Dem, voted Repub this time.
Your argument does not wash.
There is always a low voter turn out for mid terms.

Actually that's a misleading claim. Actually, about the same number of Blacks, Asians, young people, and women voted for Republicans as vote for Republicans in every election. That's kinda what the Republicans have going for them. Their base is steady. They can always count on them, in every election.

However, since fewer Blacks, Latinos, Asians, women, and especially young people voted in this election - as often happens during a mid-term election - the percentage of those demographics which "voted Republican" were, understandably higher.

My premise still stands.

No it isn't
Republicans won 10 percent of the black vote on Tuesday. That 8217 s actually a step in the right direction. - The Washington Post

• In 2012, 93 percent of blacks cast ballots for President Obama, with 6 percent voting for Romney. In the 2010 midterm, the split was 91-9.

• In 2014, Republicans saw a very slight bump nationally among African-American voters, who were 12 percent of the electorate. Ten percent of African Americans voted Republican, with 89 percent voting Democratic.

• The 89-10 split on African Americans is the best for the GOP since 2006, when it was 89-11.

• The GOP hasn't received more than 11 percent of the black vote since 1996.

Because Most Of them Stayed home...So Naturally It Looks like you got a bigger piece

 

[Plasmaball]

Most of the people who didn't vote are voting against A and B. The Democrats in Congress have done practically nothing in the last 2 years primarily because Republicans have stopped them. Likewise Republicans have done nothing but block Democrat legislation.

So at a cost of $30 millions a day congress spent two years creating bills they know will never become law, meeting with staff, meeting with reporters, meeting with constituents, attending committee meetings, meeting with lobbyist, holding press conferences, and of course, campaigning for the next election. The one thing they have not done is their job, creating meaningful legislation and next two years don't look any better.

Most of the legislation congress does manage to create is not meaningful nor productive. I would kind of prefer that congress and the president remain at a stalemate rather than creating crappy law.

America doesnt

 

[bigrebnc1775]

obama's voter base didn't show up if they did they were voting Republican
Young voters

Most strikingly, voters 18-29 nationwide were only 13 percent of the electorate in 2014 (compared to nearly a quarter for GOP-leaning seniors.) In the 2010 midterms, when Democrats lost a combined 69 House and Senate seats, young voters made up 12 percent of the voting public. In contrast, during Obama’s re-election victory in 2012, nearly one in five voters was under 30.

In some key Senate races, young voters participated at an even lower rate.

Those voters 18-29 showed up even below that national number in North Carolina (12 percent of the electorate

*** Single women

More than one-in-five voters this cycle – 21 percent of the electorate -- was an unmarried woman, and a majority -- 60 to 38 percent – voted for Democrats.

Single women made up 23 percent of the electorate during Obama’s 2012 coalition, and they broke significantly harder for Obama in 2012 than for Senate and House Democrats in 2010. Then, 67 percent supported Obama, versus 31 percent for Romney.

*** African Americans

This cycle, black voters made up 12 percent of the national electorate. That’s compared to 11 percent in 2010 and 13 percent in 2012. Democrats particularly needed high black turnout in Southern states like Georgia and North Carolina.

Because exit poll data isn’t available for many of those states – which weren’t contested in the 2008 and 2012 presidential election – it’s not possible to make an apples-to-apples comparison to past presidential contests.

But here’s one data point we do have: In North Carolina, where Democrat Kay Hagan lost her seat to Republican Thom Tillis, black voters made up 21 percent of the electorate. In 2012, that figure was 23 percent.
Where Were All the Dems Here s Who Turned Up to Vote - NBC News

You made the ops point for him you stupid fuck.

If his point was that obama's base is fed up with democrats, Yes I did. Thanks for sharing your ignorance .

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Obama's voter base didn't show up...

...that was kinda my point...

Sure, because they are fed up with obama and democrats in general, which is not the point you wanted to make is it?

 

[Plasmaball]

obama's voter base didn't show up if they did they were voting Republican
Young voters

Most strikingly, voters 18-29 nationwide were only 13 percent of the electorate in 2014 (compared to nearly a quarter for GOP-leaning seniors.) In the 2010 midterms, when Democrats lost a combined 69 House and Senate seats, young voters made up 12 percent of the voting public. In contrast, during Obama’s re-election victory in 2012, nearly one in five voters was under 30.

In some key Senate races, young voters participated at an even lower rate.

Those voters 18-29 showed up even below that national number in North Carolina (12 percent of the electorate

*** Single women

More than one-in-five voters this cycle – 21 percent of the electorate -- was an unmarried woman, and a majority -- 60 to 38 percent – voted for Democrats.

Single women made up 23 percent of the electorate during Obama’s 2012 coalition, and they broke significantly harder for Obama in 2012 than for Senate and House Democrats in 2010. Then, 67 percent supported Obama, versus 31 percent for Romney.

*** African Americans

This cycle, black voters made up 12 percent of the national electorate. That’s compared to 11 percent in 2010 and 13 percent in 2012. Democrats particularly needed high black turnout in Southern states like Georgia and North Carolina.

Because exit poll data isn’t available for many of those states – which weren’t contested in the 2008 and 2012 presidential election – it’s not possible to make an apples-to-apples comparison to past presidential contests.

But here’s one data point we do have: In North Carolina, where Democrat Kay Hagan lost her seat to Republican Thom Tillis, black voters made up 21 percent of the electorate. In 2012, that figure was 23 percent.
Where Were All the Dems Here s Who Turned Up to Vote - NBC News

You made the ops point for him you stupid fuck.

If his point was that obama's base is fed up with democrats, Yes I did. Thanks for sharing your ignorance .

Fed up? The gop won because nobody showed up...that's not a mandate...you can't even say you have the voice of the American public on your side. .

 

[bigrebnc1775]

obama's voter base didn't show up if they did they were voting Republican
Young voters

Most strikingly, voters 18-29 nationwide were only 13 percent of the electorate in 2014 (compared to nearly a quarter for GOP-leaning seniors.) In the 2010 midterms, when Democrats lost a combined 69 House and Senate seats, young voters made up 12 percent of the voting public. In contrast, during Obama’s re-election victory in 2012, nearly one in five voters was under 30.

In some key Senate races, young voters participated at an even lower rate.

Those voters 18-29 showed up even below that national number in North Carolina (12 percent of the electorate

*** Single women

More than one-in-five voters this cycle – 21 percent of the electorate -- was an unmarried woman, and a majority -- 60 to 38 percent – voted for Democrats.

Single women made up 23 percent of the electorate during Obama’s 2012 coalition, and they broke significantly harder for Obama in 2012 than for Senate and House Democrats in 2010. Then, 67 percent supported Obama, versus 31 percent for Romney.

*** African Americans

This cycle, black voters made up 12 percent of the national electorate. That’s compared to 11 percent in 2010 and 13 percent in 2012. Democrats particularly needed high black turnout in Southern states like Georgia and North Carolina.

Because exit poll data isn’t available for many of those states – which weren’t contested in the 2008 and 2012 presidential election – it’s not possible to make an apples-to-apples comparison to past presidential contests.

But here’s one data point we do have: In North Carolina, where Democrat Kay Hagan lost her seat to Republican Thom Tillis, black voters made up 21 percent of the electorate. In 2012, that figure was 23 percent.
Where Were All the Dems Here s Who Turned Up to Vote - NBC News

You made the ops point for him you stupid fuck.

If his point was that obama's base is fed up with democrats, Yes I did. Thanks for sharing your ignorance .

Fed up? The gop won because nobody showed up...that's not a mandate...you can't even say you have the voice of the American public on your side. .

because they are FED UP dill with it.

 

[Plasmaball]

obama's voter base didn't show up if they did they were voting Republican
Young voters

Most strikingly, voters 18-29 nationwide were only 13 percent of the electorate in 2014 (compared to nearly a quarter for GOP-leaning seniors.) In the 2010 midterms, when Democrats lost a combined 69 House and Senate seats, young voters made up 12 percent of the voting public. In contrast, during Obama’s re-election victory in 2012, nearly one in five voters was under 30.

In some key Senate races, young voters participated at an even lower rate.

Those voters 18-29 showed up even below that national number in North Carolina (12 percent of the electorate

*** Single women

More than one-in-five voters this cycle – 21 percent of the electorate -- was an unmarried woman, and a majority -- 60 to 38 percent – voted for Democrats.

Single women made up 23 percent of the electorate during Obama’s 2012 coalition, and they broke significantly harder for Obama in 2012 than for Senate and House Democrats in 2010. Then, 67 percent supported Obama, versus 31 percent for Romney.

*** African Americans

This cycle, black voters made up 12 percent of the national electorate. That’s compared to 11 percent in 2010 and 13 percent in 2012. Democrats particularly needed high black turnout in Southern states like Georgia and North Carolina.

Because exit poll data isn’t available for many of those states – which weren’t contested in the 2008 and 2012 presidential election – it’s not possible to make an apples-to-apples comparison to past presidential contests.

But here’s one data point we do have: In North Carolina, where Democrat Kay Hagan lost her seat to Republican Thom Tillis, black voters made up 21 percent of the electorate. In 2012, that figure was 23 percent.
Where Were All the Dems Here s Who Turned Up to Vote - NBC News

You made the ops point for him you stupid fuck.

If his point was that obama's base is fed up with democrats, Yes I did. Thanks for sharing your ignorance .

Fed up? The gop won because nobody showed up...that's not a mandate...you can't even say you have the voice of the American public on your side. .

because they are FED UP dill with it.

Perhaps for some but not all...beyond that you have nothing....

 

[Truman123]

omg. it JUST CAN'T be the voters REJECTED the Dem/commie AGENDA.

there must be another EXCUSE

FACE IT, they rejected your Fascist commie Socialist AGENDA. They started IN 2010 but you didn't learn then and came up the same lame ass excuses. Well THEY TOTALLY rejected your asses and agenda this time

now get used to it. you have been REJECTED....bye bye

You forgot Muslim / atheist / Satanic

 

[bigrebnc1775]

obama's voter base didn't show up if they did they were voting Republican
Young voters

Most strikingly, voters 18-29 nationwide were only 13 percent of the electorate in 2014 (compared to nearly a quarter for GOP-leaning seniors.) In the 2010 midterms, when Democrats lost a combined 69 House and Senate seats, young voters made up 12 percent of the voting public. In contrast, during Obama’s re-election victory in 2012, nearly one in five voters was under 30.

In some key Senate races, young voters participated at an even lower rate.

Those voters 18-29 showed up even below that national number in North Carolina (12 percent of the electorate

*** Single women

More than one-in-five voters this cycle – 21 percent of the electorate -- was an unmarried woman, and a majority -- 60 to 38 percent – voted for Democrats.

Single women made up 23 percent of the electorate during Obama’s 2012 coalition, and they broke significantly harder for Obama in 2012 than for Senate and House Democrats in 2010. Then, 67 percent supported Obama, versus 31 percent for Romney.

*** African Americans

This cycle, black voters made up 12 percent of the national electorate. That’s compared to 11 percent in 2010 and 13 percent in 2012. Democrats particularly needed high black turnout in Southern states like Georgia and North Carolina.

Because exit poll data isn’t available for many of those states – which weren’t contested in the 2008 and 2012 presidential election – it’s not possible to make an apples-to-apples comparison to past presidential contests.

But here’s one data point we do have: In North Carolina, where Democrat Kay Hagan lost her seat to Republican Thom Tillis, black voters made up 21 percent of the electorate. In 2012, that figure was 23 percent.
Where Were All the Dems Here s Who Turned Up to Vote - NBC News

You made the ops point for him you stupid fuck.

If his point was that obama's base is fed up with democrats, Yes I did. Thanks for sharing your ignorance .

Fed up? The gop won because nobody showed up...that's not a mandate...you can't even say you have the voice of the American public on your side. .

because they are FED UP dill with it.

Perhaps for some but not all...beyond that you have nothing....

 

[September]

I didn't vote. Not for any of the reasons above, I just didn't give a damn enough to vote. I decided to focus on far more interesting affairs.

​

 

[peach174]

I have heard various incarnations of the following statement, the last few days: "America rejected your agenda......get over it." The reson for this is that the premise goes as follows:

We had a record low turnout in this years election. The "reason" for that record low turnout is that American voters chose to stay home, and not vote to demonstrate their rejection of "the Progressive agenda". Okay. Let's try a little logic, and reason, shall we?

One is faced with two ideological proposals in an election. If one decides to reject ideology "A" in favor of Ideology "B", is the reasonable, logical decision to sit at home, do nothing, and hope that enough other people show their support for ideology "B" that it is adopted, or is the reasonable logical course of action to go out, and actively demonstrate one's support of ideology "B" with one's vote to ensure that it is the ideology that is adopted? I think the answer is fairly obvious.

Thus it makes no sense to suggest that America "demonstrated its rejection" progressivism by doing nothing. So, why did a vast majority of Americans not vote? Well, I do agree that some of the reason is voter suppression, and the various voter ID laws around the nation. However, I think that is only a small part. Let's face it, if "independent" voters truly felt that Democrats were standing up, and fighting for them, the only effect all of these restrictive voter ID laws would have had would have been to piss them off, and make them more determined than ever to make their votes heard, and get the people elected to office that were going to fight to have such restrictions repealed.

No. Much ore to the point was that independents saw Republicans attacking Democrat candidates over, and over, not for any legislative decisions that the candidates, themselves, had made, but simply for the "crime" of being associated with president Obama. In reply these independents saw the Democratic candidates...do nothing! They watched them throw Obama under the bus. The watched them run from Obama as fast as their cowardly little legs would take them. They watched Obama fold on Single Payer. They watched Obama fold on Immigration, and take the coward's route of waiting until after the elections to demand action from the House. They watched Obama continue, and expand the Republican practices of the NRA. They watched Obama continue, and expand the Republican practices of QE. They watched Obama employ the Republican strategies of Middle East aggression. They watched all of this and chose to stay home, rather than vote for Democrats that they had no reason to believe would support their ideologies.

So, if you want to gloat over the fact that Democrats lost, that's fine. They did. But, please do not fool yourselves into thinking that they lost because Americans suddenly embraced your conservative ideologies. That is the same stupidity that causes you to presume that everyone hates Obamacare for the same reasons that you do - which they don't. The vast number of progressives hate Obamacare because they see Obamacare as a betrayal of Progressivism, and an attempt at Conservative appeasement. Believe it, or not, ladies and gentlemen, when Progressives criticise the President, and Democrats, most of the time it is not because they have magically become Conservatives in their sleep; rather it is to send the message that the President, and Democrats have not been Progressive enough for their taste.

Most of the people who didn't vote are voting against A and B. The Democrats in Congress have done practically nothing in the last 2 years primarily because Republicans have stopped them. Likewise Republicans have done nothing but block Democrat legislation.

So at a cost of $30 millions a day congress spent two years creating bills they know will never become law, meeting with staff, meeting with reporters, meeting with constituents, attending committee meetings, meeting with lobbyist, holding press conferences, and of course, campaigning for the next election. The one thing they have not done is their job, creating meaningful legislation and next two years don't look any better.

They can now pass the hundreds of bills that Harry Reid was sitting on for two years.
Lets see how many are vetoed by Obama.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I didn't vote. Not for any of the reasons above, I just didn't give a damn enough to vote. I decided to focus on far more interesting affairs.

​

You didn't vote? Well, will you stay away from political discussions until you vote again?
Is this your way of saying you are fed up with what you have been defending? Democratic agenda

 

[Stephanie]

omg. it JUST CAN'T be the voters REJECTED the Dem/commie AGENDA.

there must be another EXCUSE

FACE IT, they rejected your Fascist commie Socialist AGENDA. They started IN 2010 but you didn't learn then and came up the same lame ass excuses. Well THEY TOTALLY rejected your asses and agenda this time

now get used to it. you have been REJECTED....bye bye

You forgot Muslim / atheist / Satanic

you aren't cute or witty. in fact that has become a real yawner

 

[September]

I didn't vote. Not for any of the reasons above, I just didn't give a damn enough to vote. I decided to focus on far more interesting affairs.

​

You didn't vote? Well, will you stay away from political discussions until you vote again?
Is this your way of saying you are fed up with what you have been defending? Democratic agenda

When ever I have "defended" a human, them being a liberal, conservative, Democrat, or Republican had absolutely nothing to do with it. Nothing whatsoever. I don't apply such terms to myself, nor do I care when others choose to embrace them.

And I will engage in any political discussion I Will, whether or not I choose to vote.



​

 

[peach174]

Most of the people who didn't vote are voting against A and B. The Democrats in Congress have done practically nothing in the last 2 years primarily because Republicans have stopped them. Likewise Republicans have done nothing but block Democrat legislation.

So at a cost of $30 millions a day congress spent two years creating bills they know will never become law, meeting with staff, meeting with reporters, meeting with constituents, attending committee meetings, meeting with lobbyist, holding press conferences, and of course, campaigning for the next election. The one thing they have not done is their job, creating meaningful legislation and next two years don't look any better.

Most of the legislation congress does manage to create is not meaningful nor productive. I would kind of prefer that congress and the president remain at a stalemate rather than creating crappy law.

I would prefer, and apparently so would America, that bills passed by the House received due process in the Senate, which has not happened as Harry Reid has blocked legislation from being voted on, and possibly reaching President "Present".

No more of that shit now, Obama will have to veto bills in full view of the people.

Republicans have only 52 seats in the Senate. That's not much of a majority. It takes 60 seats for a super majority to stop debate which is unlimited in the Senate. Senate members are far more independent than House members, probably due to their 6 year terms. You can't count on all Republicans in the Senate voting in lock step the way House members often do. On many pieces of legislation, Republicans will need independents and Democrats which means compromises.

Obama will soon become a lame duck president. I doubt he will have any problem using his veto power.

How about that?
They can now debate and vote on all the bills that Reid has been sitting on.
How many of them do you think Obama will veto?
I think he will veto a large majority of them if not all.