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My Mistake. I was referring to the original specification for the Armalite AR-15, but that was based on a 5.56mm round.

To this day, you can swap all but about 2 or three parts between the Colt Model 750 (AR-15 Civilian), LE6920 (made for Law Enforcement), the Model AR-15 Model 601 (Made for the Air Force in 1962), All version of the M-16 (Models 602 through 604) and even the cheap knockoffs or clones. They are all chambered for either the 556 or the .223. The difference between the 556 and the 223 is about 300 fps at the muzzle. The 556 has a higher chamber pressure so not all knockoffs should fire the 556 if they were chambered for the 223. But there isn't enough difference between the two to really make any difference in a mass shooting. It's not the shell that makes the difference. It's the fact that the design has no function other than to kill. It's not pretty, no frills, no cosmetics, nothing. Every feature has a reason. It's light to carry for long periods of time. But the real thing it has going for it is it's simplicity in using. It takes about 20 minutes for almost anyone to almost master. It's also the fastest reloading of mags of them all. I can change out a spent mag in just over a second when I am in trim. That means, I can push a bullet out in less than a second, shooting 60 rounds out in 61 seconds accurately and then in another 61 seconds, put out another 60 rounds accurately out again using 4 mags. And that is with ANY of the better versions of the ARs including the AR-15 Civilian and the M-16A-4. Forget about the 3 shot burst. No one uses that stupid feature. You hit your aim point on the 1st round and you are off target on shots 2 and 3. Wasted 66 2/3 % of your ammo that way.

As for the old AR-15 Model 601 and the M-16A-1 and 2, Full auto was just a waste of ammo and looked good in the movies. It wasted a lot of ammo and probably didn't hit shit. It just made your enemy temporarily put his head down until you ran out of ammo which was pretty damned quick (about 10 second). And the 11th Commandment is, "It's a huge sin to run out of Ammo". In fact, it's a deadly sin.

In the end result, the AR-15 and it's various clones are just as deadly as the M-16A-4 because they are both used as single fire weapons. But the fact that both are capable of being operated so easy and reloaded so fast makes both sought after as combat weapons. And yes, the US does export AR-15s and Clones of Mil Specs and so does Belgium.

Before you go on, I suggest you get a little bit more educated. Talk to us Veterans that have used the weapons.
Sorry, turd, although you gave it a good try, an AR-15 is simply not the same gun as an M-16. It's not an assault weapon.

Here's some news for you: all guns are designed to kill. But that sounds so sinister!

You are truly a douchebag.
All guns are designed to kill the AR is lethal but cannot do anything on its own maybe we should do away with leftist and problem is solved

Correct. Liberals are why we need guns.

If I go to my convenient store at night, I'm not too worried about a Republican coming in, robbing the place, hitting me over the head with their gun, and stealing my wallet. Republicans don't do those kinds of things. Or if I go to my ATM at night. I'm not worried about a conservative wedging himself between my car and the machine, holding me at gunpoint until I can withdraw the maximum amount the machine will allow. No,no,no. Conservatives don't do things like that.

If we really want to get rid of guns in our country, we have to get rid of liberals first. Since that can't actually be done and Lord knows we've tried we need to defend ourselves from these violent people.


How many times have any of these things actually happened to you?

Sounds to me that you have an awful lot of paranoid delusions.

Paranoid delusions do not have party affiliations!
Why do antigunners have to lie to advance their gun control agenda?
 
My Mistake. I was referring to the original specification for the Armalite AR-15, but that was based on a 5.56mm round.

To this day, you can swap all but about 2 or three parts between the Colt Model 750 (AR-15 Civilian), LE6920 (made for Law Enforcement), the Model AR-15 Model 601 (Made for the Air Force in 1962), All version of the M-16 (Models 602 through 604) and even the cheap knockoffs or clones. They are all chambered for either the 556 or the .223. The difference between the 556 and the 223 is about 300 fps at the muzzle. The 556 has a higher chamber pressure so not all knockoffs should fire the 556 if they were chambered for the 223. But there isn't enough difference between the two to really make any difference in a mass shooting. It's not the shell that makes the difference. It's the fact that the design has no function other than to kill. It's not pretty, no frills, no cosmetics, nothing. Every feature has a reason. It's light to carry for long periods of time. But the real thing it has going for it is it's simplicity in using. It takes about 20 minutes for almost anyone to almost master. It's also the fastest reloading of mags of them all. I can change out a spent mag in just over a second when I am in trim. That means, I can push a bullet out in less than a second, shooting 60 rounds out in 61 seconds accurately and then in another 61 seconds, put out another 60 rounds accurately out again using 4 mags. And that is with ANY of the better versions of the ARs including the AR-15 Civilian and the M-16A-4. Forget about the 3 shot burst. No one uses that stupid feature. You hit your aim point on the 1st round and you are off target on shots 2 and 3. Wasted 66 2/3 % of your ammo that way.

As for the old AR-15 Model 601 and the M-16A-1 and 2, Full auto was just a waste of ammo and looked good in the movies. It wasted a lot of ammo and probably didn't hit shit. It just made your enemy temporarily put his head down until you ran out of ammo which was pretty damned quick (about 10 second). And the 11th Commandment is, "It's a huge sin to run out of Ammo". In fact, it's a deadly sin.

In the end result, the AR-15 and it's various clones are just as deadly as the M-16A-4 because they are both used as single fire weapons. But the fact that both are capable of being operated so easy and reloaded so fast makes both sought after as combat weapons. And yes, the US does export AR-15s and Clones of Mil Specs and so does Belgium.

Before you go on, I suggest you get a little bit more educated. Talk to us Veterans that have used the weapons.
Sorry, turd, although you gave it a good try, an AR-15 is simply not the same gun as an M-16. It's not an assault weapon.

Here's some news for you: all guns are designed to kill. But that sounds so sinister!

You are truly a douchebag.
All guns are designed to kill the AR is lethal but cannot do anything on its own maybe we should do away with leftist and problem is solved

Correct. Liberals are why we need guns.

If I go to my convenient store at night, I'm not too worried about a Republican coming in, robbing the place, hitting me over the head with their gun, and stealing my wallet. Republicans don't do those kinds of things. Or if I go to my ATM at night. I'm not worried about a conservative wedging himself between my car and the machine, holding me at gunpoint until I can withdraw the maximum amount the machine will allow. No,no,no. Conservatives don't do things like that.

If we really want to get rid of guns in our country, we have to get rid of liberals first. Since that can't actually be done and Lord knows we've tried we need to defend ourselves from these violent people.


How many times have any of these things actually happened to you?

Sounds to me that you have an awful lot of paranoid delusions.

Paranoid delusions do not have party affiliations!

Things like this happen everyday in this country, so I don't know what you're talking about. I'm 59 years old and have had car insurance since I was 16. Never needed it before. Is it a paranoid delusion to think I may not in the future?

About a month ago a woman got carjacked up the street from me. She stopped at a store on her way home from kidney dialysis. About a half-mile from there, an elderly laundry mat worker interfered when a man started harassing some women. He paid for it with his life. He survived the Vietnam war, but his life ended as a hero at a laundry mat about a month and a half ago.

Neither victims were armed. So am I still being paranoid?
 
You obviously know nothing about the AR-15:

It's way to destructive for hunting.

AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia

It's no more destructive with the first mag than any other rifle. But the fact that the mag is so easy and quick to change out makes it more destructive when you fire 3 or 4 mags as quick as you can. And there is no hunting application where you need to be quick changing the mags out like that. Only in a fire fight is that necessary.


My Mistake. I was referring to the original specification for the Armalite AR-15, but that was based on a 5.56mm round.

And the 308 was as well. So was the 303 British and a host of others. But those all were built in a day when the same concept was also used in hunting rifles. The construction was the same as the hunting rifles that came before them. The AR was designed from the ground up to kill with nothing left for cosmetics. Every feature about it was designed for the combat field of operation. Not one ounce is designed for hunting. The fact that it can be used for limited hunting doesn't make it a sporting rifle and not a combat rifle. it's a combat rifle. A thoroughbred Combat Rifle.

To this day, you can swap all but about 2 or three parts between the Colt Model 750 (AR-15 Civilian), LE6920 (made for Law Enforcement), the Model AR-15 Model 601 (Made for the Air Force in 1962), All version of the M-16 (Models 602 through 604) and even the cheap knockoffs or clones. They are all chambered for either the 556 or the .223. The difference between the 556 and the 223 is about 300 fps at the muzzle. The 556 has a higher chamber pressure so not all knockoffs should fire the 556 if they were chambered for the 223. But there isn't enough difference between the two to really make any difference in a mass shooting. It's not the shell that makes the difference. It's the fact that the design has no function other than to kill. It's not pretty, no frills, no cosmetics, nothing. Every feature has a reason. It's light to carry for long periods of time. But the real thing it has going for it is it's simplicity in using. It takes about 20 minutes for almost anyone to almost master. It's also the fastest reloading of mags of them all. I can change out a spent mag in just over a second when I am in trim. That means, I can push a bullet out in less than a second, shooting 60 rounds out in 61 seconds accurately and then in another 61 seconds, put out another 60 rounds accurately out again using 4 mags. And that is with ANY of the better versions of the ARs including the AR-15 Civilian and the M-16A-4. Forget about the 3 shot burst. No one uses that stupid feature. You hit your aim point on the 1st round and you are off target on shots 2 and 3. Wasted 66 2/3 % of your ammo that way.

As for the old AR-15 Model 601 and the M-16A-1 and 2, Full auto was just a waste of ammo and looked good in the movies. It wasted a lot of ammo and probably didn't hit shit. It just made your enemy temporarily put his head down until you ran out of ammo which was pretty damned quick (about 10 second). And the 11th Commandment is, "It's a huge sin to run out of Ammo". In fact, it's a deadly sin.

In the end result, the AR-15 and it's various clones are just as deadly as the M-16A-4 because they are both used as single fire weapons. But the fact that both are capable of being operated so easy and reloaded so fast makes both sought after as combat weapons. And yes, the US does export AR-15s and Clones of Mil Specs and so does Belgium.

Before you go on, I suggest you get a little bit more educated. Talk to us Veterans that have used the weapons.


The original specification for the Armalite AR-15 was:

"The 5.56mm round had to penetrate a standard U.S. M1 helmet at 500 yards (460 meters) and retain a velocity in excess of the speed of sound, while matching or exceeding the wounding ability of the .30 Carbine cartridge."

(ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia)

That sounds like it's designed for combat, not hunting.
The 30-06 was originally a military round, but is now widely used for hunting.

Your premise is flawed, obviously.
 
My Mistake. I was referring to the original specification for the Armalite AR-15, but that was based on a 5.56mm round.

To this day, you can swap all but about 2 or three parts between the Colt Model 750 (AR-15 Civilian), LE6920 (made for Law Enforcement), the Model AR-15 Model 601 (Made for the Air Force in 1962), All version of the M-16 (Models 602 through 604) and even the cheap knockoffs or clones. They are all chambered for either the 556 or the .223. The difference between the 556 and the 223 is about 300 fps at the muzzle. The 556 has a higher chamber pressure so not all knockoffs should fire the 556 if they were chambered for the 223. But there isn't enough difference between the two to really make any difference in a mass shooting. It's not the shell that makes the difference. It's the fact that the design has no function other than to kill. It's not pretty, no frills, no cosmetics, nothing. Every feature has a reason. It's light to carry for long periods of time. But the real thing it has going for it is it's simplicity in using. It takes about 20 minutes for almost anyone to almost master. It's also the fastest reloading of mags of them all. I can change out a spent mag in just over a second when I am in trim. That means, I can push a bullet out in less than a second, shooting 60 rounds out in 61 seconds accurately and then in another 61 seconds, put out another 60 rounds accurately out again using 4 mags. And that is with ANY of the better versions of the ARs including the AR-15 Civilian and the M-16A-4. Forget about the 3 shot burst. No one uses that stupid feature. You hit your aim point on the 1st round and you are off target on shots 2 and 3. Wasted 66 2/3 % of your ammo that way.

As for the old AR-15 Model 601 and the M-16A-1 and 2, Full auto was just a waste of ammo and looked good in the movies. It wasted a lot of ammo and probably didn't hit shit. It just made your enemy temporarily put his head down until you ran out of ammo which was pretty damned quick (about 10 second). And the 11th Commandment is, "It's a huge sin to run out of Ammo". In fact, it's a deadly sin.

In the end result, the AR-15 and it's various clones are just as deadly as the M-16A-4 because they are both used as single fire weapons. But the fact that both are capable of being operated so easy and reloaded so fast makes both sought after as combat weapons. And yes, the US does export AR-15s and Clones of Mil Specs and so does Belgium.

Before you go on, I suggest you get a little bit more educated. Talk to us Veterans that have used the weapons.


The original specification for the Armalite AR-15 was:

"The 5.56mm round had to penetrate a standard U.S. M1 helmet at 500 yards (460 meters) and retain a velocity in excess of the speed of sound, while matching or exceeding the wounding ability of the .30 Carbine cartridge."

(ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia)

That sounds like it's designed for combat, not hunting.
The 30-06 was originally a military round, but is now widely used for hunting.

Your premise is flawed, obviously.

So penetrating a helmet at 500 yards and having a velocity greater than the speed of sound are typical of hunting rifles?

I guess that if i'm wrong then what your saying is that these were designed for hunting, not combat.

30-06 cartridge

150 gr (10 g) Nosler Ballistic Tip
2,910 ft/s (890 m/s)
2,820 ft⋅lbf (3,820 J)

Speed of Sound - 1,125 ft/s;

The 30-06 travels at over 3 times the speed of sound. It can go through an engine block. The .223 is a low power cartridge.

And the M-14 and M-1A1 weighs 3 times as much as the M-16. You also carry a third as much ammo. And you are much slower in changing out the mags. You also kill more frequently. The original idea was that it was better to would. If you kill, the dead lay there until the battle is concluded. If you would, it takes out not only the wounded but it also takes out 2 others to care for the wounded to get them to safety. You know nothing about any of this.
 
To this day, you can swap all but about 2 or three parts between the Colt Model 750 (AR-15 Civilian), LE6920 (made for Law Enforcement), the Model AR-15 Model 601 (Made for the Air Force in 1962), All version of the M-16 (Models 602 through 604) and even the cheap knockoffs or clones. They are all chambered for either the 556 or the .223. The difference between the 556 and the 223 is about 300 fps at the muzzle. The 556 has a higher chamber pressure so not all knockoffs should fire the 556 if they were chambered for the 223. But there isn't enough difference between the two to really make any difference in a mass shooting. It's not the shell that makes the difference. It's the fact that the design has no function other than to kill. It's not pretty, no frills, no cosmetics, nothing. Every feature has a reason. It's light to carry for long periods of time. But the real thing it has going for it is it's simplicity in using. It takes about 20 minutes for almost anyone to almost master. It's also the fastest reloading of mags of them all. I can change out a spent mag in just over a second when I am in trim. That means, I can push a bullet out in less than a second, shooting 60 rounds out in 61 seconds accurately and then in another 61 seconds, put out another 60 rounds accurately out again using 4 mags. And that is with ANY of the better versions of the ARs including the AR-15 Civilian and the M-16A-4. Forget about the 3 shot burst. No one uses that stupid feature. You hit your aim point on the 1st round and you are off target on shots 2 and 3. Wasted 66 2/3 % of your ammo that way.

As for the old AR-15 Model 601 and the M-16A-1 and 2, Full auto was just a waste of ammo and looked good in the movies. It wasted a lot of ammo and probably didn't hit shit. It just made your enemy temporarily put his head down until you ran out of ammo which was pretty damned quick (about 10 second). And the 11th Commandment is, "It's a huge sin to run out of Ammo". In fact, it's a deadly sin.

In the end result, the AR-15 and it's various clones are just as deadly as the M-16A-4 because they are both used as single fire weapons. But the fact that both are capable of being operated so easy and reloaded so fast makes both sought after as combat weapons. And yes, the US does export AR-15s and Clones of Mil Specs and so does Belgium.

Before you go on, I suggest you get a little bit more educated. Talk to us Veterans that have used the weapons.


The original specification for the Armalite AR-15 was:

"The 5.56mm round had to penetrate a standard U.S. M1 helmet at 500 yards (460 meters) and retain a velocity in excess of the speed of sound, while matching or exceeding the wounding ability of the .30 Carbine cartridge."

(ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia)

That sounds like it's designed for combat, not hunting.
The 30-06 was originally a military round, but is now widely used for hunting.

Your premise is flawed, obviously.

So penetrating a helmet at 500 yards and having a velocity greater than the speed of sound are typical of hunting rifles?

I guess that if i'm wrong then what your saying is that these were designed for hunting, not combat.

30-06 cartridge

150 gr (10 g) Nosler Ballistic Tip
2,910 ft/s (890 m/s)
2,820 ft⋅lbf (3,820 J)

Speed of Sound - 1,125 ft/s;

The 30-06 travels at over 3 times the speed of sound. It can go through an engine block. The .223 is a low power cartridge.

And the M-14 and M-1A1 weighs 3 times as much as the M-16. You also carry a third as much ammo. And you are much slower in changing out the mags. You also kill more frequently. The original idea was that it was better to would. If you kill, the dead lay there until the battle is concluded. If you would, it takes out not only the wounded but it also takes out 2 others to care for the wounded to get them to safety. You know nothing about any of this.
The M14 weighed 8.33 lbs. (without sling or magazine), which was substantially lighter than the 9.5-lb.
THE M16 weighs 7.9 pounds
You got the other crap from a movie
 
Any push to ban any guns is going against the Constitution so you are a lying sack of shit
An Ar15 is not a gun. It's a weapon designed for war that kills in mass quickly. The same as a bazooka, or a grenade.
Wrong. AR-15s are semi-automatic. They are not used by the military.

1. Harris County, Texas (2013)

A 15-year-old boy saved both his life and the life of his 12-year-old sister by fending off a pair of home invaders with his father’s AR-15.

2. Rochester, New York (2013)

Two armed burglars retreated from a college student’s apartment after coming face-to-face with an unloaded AR-15. The rifle itself instilled enough fear to cause them to flee.

3. Ferguson, Missouri (2014)

During the Ferguson, Missouri, riots, nearly all businesses within a particular 2-square-mile area of the city were looted or destroyed—except for one. African-American men guarded the gas station and convenience store of a white friend from looters and rioters. They did so armed with an AR-15, a MAC-10 “machine pistol,” and a variety of handguns.

4. Houston, Texas (2017)

A target of a drive-by shooting successfully fended off the attack by using his legally owned AR-15 against his three armed attackers. He was able to hit all three men in the moving vehicle.

5. Broken Arrow, Oklahoma (2017)

A homeowner’s 19-year-old son used an AR-15 to defend himself against three would-be burglars who broke into the home in broad daylight. The 19-year-old was later determined to have acted in justifiable self-defense.

6. Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017)

After a gunman opened fire on congregants inside First Baptist Church, a man living near the place of worship grabbed his AR-15 and engaged the shooter. The shooter subsequently dropped his own firearm and fled the scene as the courageous neighbor pursued him.

7. Oswego, Illinois (2018)

A man with an AR-15 intervened to stop a neighbor’s knife attack on a pregnant woman. The rifle’s “intimidation factor” was credited as a reason why the attacker dropped his knife.

8. Catawba County, Illinois (2018)

After his 17-year-old relative successfully used his own firearm to fend off three would-be robbers who attacked him in the driveway of his home, a man used his AR-15 to stop a threat from one of the would-be robber’s upset family members.
You're an idiot who doesn't know what an AR 15 is; ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia
The AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle. Functionally, it's no different than any typical hunting rifle.


You obviously know nothing about the AR-15:

It's way to destructive for hunting.

AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia



If a person needs that many bullets fired that quickly to bring down a deer or elk or for hunting any animal, what they need to do is go to the shooting range and practice. They will end up hurting themselves with that weapon since they're such a horrible shot.

My grandfather, mom and aunt were basically one shot. The animal came down. My dad took a couple more.

The damage done by bullets from a semi automatic weapon leaves the animal in shreds and the meat mostly useless.

No one who hunts needs more than a regular shot gun to hunt. Nor should they need more than a couple shots to bring that animal down.

The person you replied to has no idea what they're talking about if they think that a semi automatic weapon is necessary for sport hunting.

Now if you're hunting humans, yes, a semi automatic weapon is very effective.

I'm wondering what weapons has to do with the subject of the OP.
 
'Inconsistent': McConnell slammed for violating 'oath' as 'constitutional officer' Republicans like Mitch McConnell of kentucky no longer value the rule of law, the Constitution, honesty, and fairness, while Republican elected officials threw out their oath of office to country, the citizenry, and sent them straight into the garbage. Folks, we are watching history here. When Mitch McConnell and his criminal subordinates decide not honor their oath with a "real" trial, they will be judged harshly for decades. This is a much bigger deal than just putting Trump on trial. Pretend if you will Trump Sheep, but if a fair trial does not come about, the Republican party loses its soul and credibility as a representative party. With Trump, they have all but destroyed the party after 3 years, and if they push this stunt with no trial, where there is overwhelming evidence against Trump, that will finally finish them off.'Constitutional travesty': See Trump and McConnell block fair impeachment trial
/——-/,Wanna bet Piglosi never sends the impeachment to the Senate?
 
An Ar15 is not a gun. It's a weapon designed for war that kills in mass quickly. The same as a bazooka, or a grenade.
Wrong. AR-15s are semi-automatic. They are not used by the military.

1. Harris County, Texas (2013)

A 15-year-old boy saved both his life and the life of his 12-year-old sister by fending off a pair of home invaders with his father’s AR-15.

2. Rochester, New York (2013)

Two armed burglars retreated from a college student’s apartment after coming face-to-face with an unloaded AR-15. The rifle itself instilled enough fear to cause them to flee.

3. Ferguson, Missouri (2014)

During the Ferguson, Missouri, riots, nearly all businesses within a particular 2-square-mile area of the city were looted or destroyed—except for one. African-American men guarded the gas station and convenience store of a white friend from looters and rioters. They did so armed with an AR-15, a MAC-10 “machine pistol,” and a variety of handguns.

4. Houston, Texas (2017)

A target of a drive-by shooting successfully fended off the attack by using his legally owned AR-15 against his three armed attackers. He was able to hit all three men in the moving vehicle.

5. Broken Arrow, Oklahoma (2017)

A homeowner’s 19-year-old son used an AR-15 to defend himself against three would-be burglars who broke into the home in broad daylight. The 19-year-old was later determined to have acted in justifiable self-defense.

6. Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017)

After a gunman opened fire on congregants inside First Baptist Church, a man living near the place of worship grabbed his AR-15 and engaged the shooter. The shooter subsequently dropped his own firearm and fled the scene as the courageous neighbor pursued him.

7. Oswego, Illinois (2018)

A man with an AR-15 intervened to stop a neighbor’s knife attack on a pregnant woman. The rifle’s “intimidation factor” was credited as a reason why the attacker dropped his knife.

8. Catawba County, Illinois (2018)

After his 17-year-old relative successfully used his own firearm to fend off three would-be robbers who attacked him in the driveway of his home, a man used his AR-15 to stop a threat from one of the would-be robber’s upset family members.
You're an idiot who doesn't know what an AR 15 is; ArmaLite AR-15 - Wikipedia
The AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle. Functionally, it's no different than any typical hunting rifle.


You obviously know nothing about the AR-15:

It's way to destructive for hunting.

AR-15 style rifle - Wikipedia



If a person needs that many bullets fired that quickly to bring down a deer or elk or for hunting any animal, what they need to do is go to the shooting range and practice. They will end up hurting themselves with that weapon since they're such a horrible shot.

My grandfather, mom and aunt were basically one shot. The animal came down. My dad took a couple more.

The damage done by bullets from a semi automatic weapon leaves the animal in shreds and the meat mostly useless.

No one who hunts needs more than a regular shot gun to hunt. Nor should they need more than a couple shots to bring that animal down.

The person you replied to has no idea what they're talking about if they think that a semi automatic weapon is necessary for sport hunting.

Now if you're hunting humans, yes, a semi automatic weapon is very effective.

I'm wondering what weapons has to do with the subject of the OP.
oh dear another one who thinks the second amendment and the right to keep and bear arms is about hunting lol
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