The only people who are LOSING HEALTH INSURANCE are the ones who CHOSE TO NOT BUY IT.

[Pop23]

You're smarter than the CBO?
That's awesome!
GOP Tax Plan Would Still Leave 13 Million Without Health Insurance, CBO Says

You are aware they can still buy insurance, correct? They just don't pay a penalty if they decide they don't want to buy insurance. In short, their freedom of choice has been restored.

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

 

[Pop23]

you are confused. It is not the right thing for the filthy ass government to steal money from the people that earn the money and give it to the welfare queens that didn't earn it.

More shallow, binary thinking. Just as shallow and binary as someone saying "corporations are evil".

Life is just a bit more complicated than that.
.

When we make it more complicated then it should be

 

[DrLove]

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

When the Heritage Foundation originally recommended the concept of individual mandate, Republicans liked it.
Once Obama adopted it?
Bad - very very BAD

 

[Pop23]

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

When the Heritage Foundation originally recommended the concept of individual mandate, Republicans liked it.
Once Obama adopted it?
Bad - very very BAD

I, and most Republicans I knew didn’t like it as proposed by either.

The swamp dwellers did. Time to rid Washington of them.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So stop with the lies.

Premiums may go up for some but that shouldn't bother you unless you're a hypocrite who had no problem with the increases under Obamacare. And some of those increases were double or triple previous premiums.
Smart consumers will see a decline by opting out of Obamacare and getting into a co-op.
Bottom line is democrats created this disaster so whatever the outcome is in the end they have no one to blame but themselves.

For the left, my body my choice ends after you murder your baby.

 

[Lewdog]

I whole-heartedly agree with the OP. All the kids from poor families that are losing their health insurance from CHIP need to get off their lazy asses and get a job cleaning chimneys.

 

[Mac1958]

you are confused. It is not the right thing for the filthy ass government to steal money from the people that earn the money and give it to the welfare queens that didn't earn it.

More shallow, binary thinking. Just as shallow and binary as someone saying "corporations are evil".

Life is just a bit more complicated than that.
.

Why the self righteousness? The argument against it is just as logical and reasonable as being for it.
Too bad you are letting ideology get in the way of seeing that

Great, thanks.
.

 

[TNHarley]

you are confused. It is not the right thing for the filthy ass government to steal money from the people that earn the money and give it to the welfare queens that didn't earn it.

More shallow, binary thinking. Just as shallow and binary as someone saying "corporations are evil".

Life is just a bit more complicated than that.
.

Why the self righteousness? The argument against it is just as logical and reasonable as being for it.
Too bad you are letting ideology get in the way of seeing that

Great, thanks.
.

You are welcome!

 

[kwc57]

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day...

Teach a man to fish and he will feed his entire family.

Trump budget proposes 40% cut to job training programs

The Republican tax plan could financially devastate graduate students

The Jobs Programs Trump's Budget Would Cut

8 Ways the House Republicans’ Budget Will Harm Working Families to Pay for Millionaire Tax Cuts

What Republicans are teaching is that they hate American workers.

Tell yourself whatever you need to to make it thru the night Nancy. Meanwhile, in the real world.....

This is just the start of companies handing out bonuses, raising wages and boosting spending

 

[Weatherman2020]

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day...

Teach a man to fish and he will feed his entire family.

Trump budget proposes 40% cut to job training programs

The Republican tax plan could financially devastate graduate students

The Jobs Programs Trump's Budget Would Cut

8 Ways the House Republicans’ Budget Will Harm Working Families to Pay for Millionaire Tax Cuts

What Republicans are teaching is that they hate American workers.

CNN Money:

Staffers at MSNBC and other NBCUniversal networks will be receiving $1,000 bonuses from Comcast "based on the passage of tax reform and the FCC's action on broadband," Comcast said Wednesday evening.

The announcement came a couple of hours after AT&T said it would give $1,000 bonuses to more than 200,000 employees. Trump triumphantly shared the AT&T news at Wednesday's nationally televised celebration of the bill. Here are the other companies that made pledges...

 

[JQPublic1]

You're smarter than the CBO?
That's awesome!
GOP Tax Plan Would Still Leave 13 Million Without Health Insurance, CBO Says

You are aware they can still buy insurance, correct? They just don't pay a penalty if they decide they don't want to buy insurance. In short, their freedom of choice has been restored.

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

 

[Rustic]

You're smarter than the CBO?
That's awesome!
GOP Tax Plan Would Still Leave 13 Million Without Health Insurance, CBO Says

You are aware they can still buy insurance, correct? They just don't pay a penalty if they decide they don't want to buy insurance. In short, their freedom of choice has been restored.

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

Those people in those states don’t want Obamacare of course they’re going to try and get rid of it. It’s unconstitutional

 

[Pop23]

You're smarter than the CBO?
That's awesome!
GOP Tax Plan Would Still Leave 13 Million Without Health Insurance, CBO Says

You are aware they can still buy insurance, correct? They just don't pay a penalty if they decide they don't want to buy insurance. In short, their freedom of choice has been restored.

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

We deal in the real world. Try it, it’s not all that tough.

I know 2 former snowflakes that are now voting republican after the Mandate is removed.

Crap products forced upon the public rarely ends up well.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You're smarter than the CBO?
That's awesome!
GOP Tax Plan Would Still Leave 13 Million Without Health Insurance, CBO Says

You are aware they can still buy insurance, correct? They just don't pay a penalty if they decide they don't want to buy insurance. In short, their freedom of choice has been restored.

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

Slate? Really?

 

[DrLove]

Crap products forced upon the public rarely ends up well.

Indeed ^ ^ ^ And you will see on very short order that tax POS just rammed through by Republicans will go lots worse.

 

[JQPublic1]

You are aware they can still buy insurance, correct? They just don't pay a penalty if they decide they don't want to buy insurance. In short, their freedom of choice has been restored.

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

Those people in those states don’t want Obamacare of course they’re going to try and get rid of it. It’s unconstitutional

The poor people in those states want and need the PPACA. But their interests are nullified by the very people they helped to elect...IF they voted at all..or if their votes were counted. And the USSC said the PPACA is Constitutional... I'll take their opinion over yours any day.

 

[Pop23]

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

Those people in those states don’t want Obamacare of course they’re going to try and get rid of it. It’s unconstitutional

The poor people in those states want and need the PPACA. But their interests are nullified by the very people they helped to elect...IF they voted at all..or if their votes were counted. And the USSC said the PPACA is Constitutional... I'll take their opinion over yours any day.

Nope, most don’t, and once they saw how unaffordable the deductibles and copays were, they too thought it was crap.

 

[Pop23]

Crap products forced upon the public rarely ends up well.

Indeed ^ ^ ^ And you will see on very short order that tax POS just rammed through by Republicans will go lots worse.

So far it’s doing just fine. Ask the employees that just got a raise because of it.

Cry all you want. 2018 looks pretty bad for you kooks on the alt-left.

 

[JQPublic1]

You are aware they can still buy insurance, correct? They just don't pay a penalty if they decide they don't want to buy insurance. In short, their freedom of choice has been restored.

The poor can't afford to buy insurance without the subsidies. Funding for the subsidies. comes from mandating that those who don't have insurance participate. That includes millenials who can afford it but think they do not need it. But when an accident or illness puts them in the ER they can't pay the bill. Some of the cost is passed on to the taxpayers but the hospital takes a financial hit too. Although the stupid uninsured MF who didn't forsee his trip to the hospital gets top notch treatment for free...his credit rating is ruined. Too bad the hospitals and the government doesn't sue those dumb MFs.
That mandate was the best thing since apple pie.

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

Slate? Really?

Yeah...really...silly. Read the fuggin' link.

 

[JQPublic1]

I'm not finished. Without Obamacare and. Subsidized insurance., it ought to be readily apparent that millions of people who couldn't otherwise afford health insurance will lose what they had under the PPACA. The impoverished uninsured will go back to the ER and we're back to the old system.

“Otherwise afford healthcare”

The deductibles and copays under Obamacare still makes it unaffordable to the poor and they still show up in the emergency rooms.

What exactly is your point?

Some red states have sabatoged implementation of the PPACA and States with significant numbers of older sicker people saw insurers pull out of the markets. Some have only one provider now as a result. But as this link sbows thats not the case in 25 other states.
How States Have Sabotaged Obamacare

Those people in those states don’t want Obamacare of course they’re going to try and get rid of it. It’s unconstitutional

The poor people in those states want and need the PPACA. But their interests are nullified by the very people they helped to elect...IF they voted at all..or if their votes were counted. And the USSC said the PPACA is Constitutional... I'll take their opinion over yours any day.

Nope, most don’t, and once they saw how unaffordable the deductibles and copays were, they too thought it was crap.

Plans were pro-rated based on income. Some didn't have to pay anything...many had total costs of around $75
per month.That's with the subsidies of course.