“The parties are equally f_ _ ked for Americans”. That’s what fence-sitters tell us…Is it true?

[BrokeLoser]

Good thing nobody is doing that.

hahaha….that’s exactly what all of you megalomaniacs are doing….some weird block you’ve created in your frontal lobe has you believing otherwise.

I get that your addled little partisan brain cannot grasp that some of us see no difference between the two sides.

Says the four uber intelligent megalomaniacs here…Meanwhile, everybody on this site and everybody with their head pulled from their ass knows the parties have never in history been further apart on all issues social and political.

To be honest I wish I could be like you loyal partisans and just pick a side and worship it till the day that I die no matter how much they suck, it would make life much easier.

The ignorant mistake you make is you see supporting and voting for candidate as some form of worship which is probably the cause for that weird block you’ve erected in your frontal lobe…you’re paranoid of seeing yourself as a “worshipper”.

But I just cannot.

Hell no you can not...you can not see with rational eyes

JWBooth

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Says the four uber intelligent megalomaniacs here…Meanwhile, everybody on this site and everybody with their head pulled from their ass knows the parties have never in history been further apart on all issues social and political.

That is what they tell, and you would never disagree with your party overlords

 

[Mac-7]

Lets break this down and look at the policies and actions of the parties. I’ll start with one close to my heart.
What policy have Republicans pushed that fucks Americans as “equally” as Biden’s open border policy and the 8 million new illegals will?

Illegal aliens since 2021 total more than individual populations of 38 states; illegal crossings top 8 million since Biden took office | The Highland County Press

The number of illegal border crossings at the northern and southern borders and all ports of entry since January 2021 totals more than 8 million people, greater than the individual populations of 38 U.S. states.

highlandcountypress.com

The fence sitters have a preferred major candidate

Namely whoever the democrats nominate

They just wont admit it publically

 

[Mac-7]

You are correct, the Repubs just want to exploit them for their cheap labor, and amnesty would steal that ability

And libs like you value the illegals because it makes America more foreign and less American

 

[Meister]

Fence-sitters just means unbiased observers.

Looking at Republicans, their tax cuts exploded the Deficit and Debt. Totally irresponsible.

Looking at democrats, they spend wayyyyyyy too much on everything. Totally irresponsible.

Both parties suck.

IMO, there is enough revenue being generated for everything that is needed to
finance a country of this size. The issue is on the spending, and I'm talking about wasteful spending.
Totally and incredible wasteful, AND without oversight. We have a committee for just that purpose,
and somehow it fails regardless of which party is in control. There are no innocents, just incompetence.

 

[Mac-7]

You are correct, the Repubs just want to exploit them for their cheap labor, and amnesty would steal that ability

Lets not forget that Golfing Gator loves America so much that he plans to defect to a foreign country after retirement

Like the man said, with friends like him who needs enemies?

 

[dblack]

The fence sitters have a preferred major candidate

Namely whoever the democrats nominate

They just wont admit it publically

Sure sure. And you kill puppies in your spare time. You just won't admit it publicly.

 

[Mac-7]

Sure sure. And you kill puppies in your spare time. You just won't admit it publicly.

You are entitled to your opinion, as am I

 

[dblack]

You are entitled to your opinion, as am I

I just think you're missing the point. It isn't that Biden and Trump are the same, or even that they are equally bad. It's that they are both so far below any minimum standards for the office that there's no way I could vote for either. And I'm not going to waste much time trying to sort out which one is worse.

 

[whitehall]

People who have no party loyalty criticize both parties. Why does that come as a surprise?

 

[Mac-7]

I just think you're missing the point. It isn't that Biden and Trump are the same, or even that they are equally bad. It's that they are both so far below any minimum standards for the office that there's no way I could vote for either. And I'm not going to waste much time trying to sort out which one is worse.

You are going to get one or the other

And they are not both equally bad

I suspect you would prefer biden if you had to choose

 

[dblack]

You are going to get one or the other

Only if we vote for them.

 

[Mac-7]

Only if we vote for them.

Whether you vote or not

Others will decide for you

 

[dblack]

And they are not both equally bad

I suspect you would prefer biden if you had to choose

Suspect whatever you like. It's irrelevant because I'm not voting for either.

 

[dblack]

Whether you vote or not

Others will decide for you

Others can do whatever the fuck they like. I'm not going to do something stupid just because you, or the media, tell me that everyone else will.

 

[Mac-7]

Others can do whatever the fuck they like. I'm not going to do something stupid just because you, or the media, tell me that everyone else will.

That means you are part of the problem

Apathy is not a solution

 

[dblack]

That means you are part of the problem

That's the plan. We're going the wrong way.

Apathy is not a solution

Oh, it's not that. At all.

 

[Mac-7]

That's the plan. We're going the wrong way.

Oh, it's not that. At all.

I think it is

Roll up your sleeves and jump into the fight

 

[JWBooth]

Lets not forget that Golfing Gator loves America so much that he plans to defect to a foreign country after retirement

Like the man said, with friends like him who needs enemies?

If one has the means to escape from a septic tank why are they to be criticised for doing so?

 

[kyzr]

IMO, there is enough revenue being generated for everything that is needed to
finance a country of this size. The issue is on the spending, and I'm talking about wasteful spending.
Totally and incredible wasteful, AND without oversight. We have a committee for just that purpose,
and somehow it fails regardless of which party is in control. There are no innocents, just incompetence.

1. I remember when there was a government study to root out "waste, fraud, and abuse" and to make the government more efficient and effective, called the "Grace Commission". Their policy recommendations were ignored.

Grace Commission - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The report said that one-third of all income taxes are consumed by waste and inefficiency in the federal government, and another one-third escapes collection owing to the underground economy. "With two thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the federal debt and by federal government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services that taxpayers expect from their government."

2. As for enough revenue being generated, nope, not now. The interest on the Debt is consuming too much revenue, and the DC morons keep borrowing more. But your point about cutting spending is spot on.

3. If Republicans don't get significant Budget Cuts in January, the fiscal war is over. The US dollar will collapse. The party is officially over, the punch bowl needs to be removed. Trump's Budgets were about $4T, Biden's Budgets are about $7T. That is insanity.

4. Its not "incompetence" that we're in this mess, its just the way politics works. A government shutdown in January may be part of the answer. Only fund what is actually essential.