The Post-Trump GOP

If Trump claims it, it's evidence enough for the flock.
What if the the "flock" stayed up on election night and watched the numbers flip while counting had allegedly stopped for the night. That wouldn't be Trump telling us what we saw. That would be our only fucking eyes.

Keep up the attitude. Keep up the "mindless drone" ridicule. It grows our numbers.

Texas is GONE!!!.

It's only a matter of time.
I remember that!

That was when Trump claimed victory only to lose by seven million votes
In their world, Trump WON by seven million votes. Or more.

:spinner:
Trump got more 8 million more votes then the beloved Messiah Obama, splain that one

Firstly, Obama wasn't anyone's "Messiah". But he was the guy who saved the world's economy, and restored both the economy and America's standing as the leading nation in the first world, after W nearly started WWIII and crashed the economy. Also, if Obama was the worst President in history, why is Trump obsessed with trying to outdo him? And failing to match anything close to Obama's economic numbers in job creation, GDP growth, or stock market growth. Obama doubled the stock market in his first term.

Also the population was much larger in 2020 than it was in 2012 - 17 million more people than 2012. Also, Trump wasn't running against Obama, and the guy Trump was running against got 7 million more votes than Trump.


Obama didn't save a dam thing. The financial crisis of 2008 was already over by the time Obama seized power. The TARP eliminated the possibility of the meltdown.
Holy shit. Here's a great example of why I no longer bother trying to discuss economics & markets with Trumpsters.
Isn't it crazy how trump failed so miserably and still has support? Trump made fun of Obama for not hitting 3% and the trumpers agreed! Trump fails to hit 3% and the trumpers say it was the greatest economy ever! They have a mental condition....
Group pathology. The world has seen this before.
Feel like it took them a couple years to realize Bush was a failure? This one could take longer...
How was bush Jr a failure he united the country like never seen before since WII
Bush did an amazing job after 9-11 uniting the country and having the world behind him.

Unfortunately he destroyed all that good will with two invasions and engaging in torture


What "torture"? Torture would have been a War Crime and/or Crime against Humanity, and neither Mr. Bush nor Mr. Cheney were ever even charged, much less extradited to The Hague to answer for such
Water boarding is acknowledged as torture around the world. Even the US called it torture before Bush


Apparently Obama and his wing man Holder didn't agree that it was torture.

Otherwise, W and Cheney would have been extradited to The Hague for the war crimes.
Obama banned water boarding his first day in office


So what?

That doesn't address that past instances of waterboarding if its a crime.

The fact that W and Cheney weren't extradited makes it look like B. Hussein O was just kissing up to the terrorists by getting rid of the H2O boarding policy.
 
Elections are fixed, who gives a crap about parties anymore. The corrupt lifers have eliminated the voters. The media claps like seals, and people in Virginia get more houses. If Trump doesn't make a stand, the dems will make sure that election security is broken and exploited forever.
 
Republicans are being short sighted
Pandering to the MAGA crowd may help them win with the older, white Christians who fear their loss of power.
But younger Americans and minorities are repulsed by the actions of the far right. They are lost forever
Might be true, but the Dems are making a big mistake if they assume too much. They're certainly capable of going too far, as well.

This is why I don't like seeing the GOP turn into a fuckin' psycho ward like this. We need (at least) two strong parties.

When I checked the website of the Dem's national convention in 2016, it took me 15 minutes of clicking around until I saw the first picture of a white male who wasn't obviously depicted as gay.

It's all nice and fine when Democrats care for the issues of non-whites and other minorities ... but if they give a damn about white workers, they shouldn't be surprised when 70% of them then vote for someone like Trump.
This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

And, just as the Trumpsters are refusing to look clearly and honestly in the mirror, so is the Regressive Left. As I always say, the two ends of our political spectrum can be comically similar in their behaviors.


We are NOT using mob violence to terrorize our enemies, and arresting people that defend themselves.

So, the similarities, are not very impressive.
Yeah you just shoot up wal marts and mail bombs to people.
Hey. Ends justify the means, right commie?
 
Republicans are being short sighted
Pandering to the MAGA crowd may help them win with the older, white Christians who fear their loss of power.
But younger Americans and minorities are repulsed by the actions of the far right. They are lost forever
Might be true, but the Dems are making a big mistake if they assume too much. They're certainly capable of going too far, as well.

This is why I don't like seeing the GOP turn into a fuckin' psycho ward like this. We need (at least) two strong parties.

When I checked the website of the Dem's national convention in 2016, it took me 15 minutes of clicking around until I saw the first picture of a white male who wasn't obviously depicted as gay.

It's all nice and fine when Democrats care for the issues of non-whites and other minorities ... but if they give a damn about white workers, they shouldn't be surprised when 70% of them then vote for someone like Trump.
This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

And, just as the Trumpsters are refusing to look clearly and honestly in the mirror, so is the Regressive Left. As I always say, the two ends of our political spectrum can be comically similar in their behaviors.


We are NOT using mob violence to terrorize our enemies, and arresting people that defend themselves.

So, the similarities, are not very impressive.
He does not seem to care, and in fact has shown that he revels in the "fuck you" he is watching. I would conclude that he does not believe that we are dead fucking serious.

Texas is GONE. Leaving. It may not be this year, or next year, but the sentiment is real and serious. We are getting the fuck out one way or another. If it's peaceful, great. But, I suspect that the powerbrokers will not give up on the world's 10th largest economy that easily. I am at peace with that eventuality and will die for it.


I don't know how this will shake out


I do know that if they want to marginalize and oppress the single largest ethnic group in the country, that there will be civil unrest that will START at the level of the 60s and grow from there.

I do.
Biden is President.
You won't do shit.
Please keep saying that.

The more you run your shrill mouth, the more this becomes likely:

no-texas-map.gif
 
Republicans are being short sighted
Pandering to the MAGA crowd may help them win with the older, white Christians who fear their loss of power.
But younger Americans and minorities are repulsed by the actions of the far right. They are lost forever
Might be true, but the Dems are making a big mistake if they assume too much. They're certainly capable of going too far, as well.

This is why I don't like seeing the GOP turn into a fuckin' psycho ward like this. We need (at least) two strong parties.

When I checked the website of the Dem's national convention in 2016, it took me 15 minutes of clicking around until I saw the first picture of a white male who wasn't obviously depicted as gay.

It's all nice and fine when Democrats care for the issues of non-whites and other minorities ... but if they give a damn about white workers, they shouldn't be surprised when 70% of them then vote for someone like Trump.
This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

And, just as the Trumpsters are refusing to look clearly and honestly in the mirror, so is the Regressive Left. As I always say, the two ends of our political spectrum can be comically similar in their behaviors.


We are NOT using mob violence to terrorize our enemies, and arresting people that defend themselves.

So, the similarities, are not very impressive.
He does not seem to care, and in fact has shown that he revels in the "fuck you" he is watching. I would conclude that he does not believe that we are dead fucking serious.

Texas is GONE. Leaving. It may not be this year, or next year, but the sentiment is real and serious. We are getting the fuck out one way or another. If it's peaceful, great. But, I suspect that the powerbrokers will not give up on the world's 10th largest economy that easily. I am at peace with that eventuality and will die for it.


I don't know how this will shake out


I do know that if they want to marginalize and oppress the single largest ethnic group in the country, that there will be civil unrest that will START at the level of the 60s and grow from there.

I do.
Biden is President.
You won't do shit.
Please keep saying that.

The more you run your shrill mouth, the more this becomes likely:

no-texas-map.gif

Your pictures make you look so brave! Behind your keyboard!
 
Republicans are being short sighted
Pandering to the MAGA crowd may help them win with the older, white Christians who fear their loss of power.
But younger Americans and minorities are repulsed by the actions of the far right. They are lost forever
Might be true, but the Dems are making a big mistake if they assume too much. They're certainly capable of going too far, as well.

This is why I don't like seeing the GOP turn into a fuckin' psycho ward like this. We need (at least) two strong parties.

When I checked the website of the Dem's national convention in 2016, it took me 15 minutes of clicking around until I saw the first picture of a white male who wasn't obviously depicted as gay.

It's all nice and fine when Democrats care for the issues of non-whites and other minorities ... but if they give a damn about white workers, they shouldn't be surprised when 70% of them then vote for someone like Trump.
This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

And, just as the Trumpsters are refusing to look clearly and honestly in the mirror, so is the Regressive Left. As I always say, the two ends of our political spectrum can be comically similar in their behaviors.


We are NOT using mob violence to terrorize our enemies, and arresting people that defend themselves.

So, the similarities, are not very impressive.
He does not seem to care, and in fact has shown that he revels in the "fuck you" he is watching. I would conclude that he does not believe that we are dead fucking serious.

Texas is GONE. Leaving. It may not be this year, or next year, but the sentiment is real and serious. We are getting the fuck out one way or another. If it's peaceful, great. But, I suspect that the powerbrokers will not give up on the world's 10th largest economy that easily. I am at peace with that eventuality and will die for it.


I don't know how this will shake out


I do know that if they want to marginalize and oppress the single largest ethnic group in the country, that there will be civil unrest that will START at the level of the 60s and grow from there.

I do.
Biden is President.
You won't do shit.
Please keep saying that.

The more you run your shrill mouth, the more this becomes likely:

no-texas-map.gif

Your pictures make you look so brave! Behind your keyboard!
He did this all day yesterday. He thinks this is threatening somehow.

Go. Split. Take Texas. There's plenty of room for all you paranoids to shoot your guns at trees.

Sheesh.
 
How the heck can someone buy a house with no job, meth head joe?

Put down the bottle, buddy....

Apparently Obama and his wing man Holder didn't agree that it was torture.

Otherwise, W and Cheney would have been extradited to The Hague for the war crimes.

They probably should have been, but really, we don't do that sort of thing.

I see a splinter as those smart enough will run from the Trump legacy and there will be those who will repeat that legacy of hate. The policy of hate got him to the big game. Yet it can also said that it is the reason he lost in the 2nd quarter. It will be hard for those to ignore his base and will seek to kiss the don's hand in gaining access to this base. I can only say good luck with that. Make the deal with the devil comes to mind. I see Cruz and other like minds will embrace Trump. Yet it is a double edge sword.

Actually, Trump is going to end up being like Nixon. Nixon won 49 states in 1972, but by 1976, no one was even admitting voting for him.

As stated earlier, Trump isn't the disease, he's just the rash it's broken out into. The GOP will go back to finding some other asshole who pushes the same economic rat poison to white working class people, but without the crazy tweets, by playing on their sexual, religious and racial fears.
 
How the heck can someone buy a house with no job, meth head joe?

Put down the bottle, buddy....

Apparently Obama and his wing man Holder didn't agree that it was torture.

Otherwise, W and Cheney would have been extradited to The Hague for the war crimes.

They probably should have been, but really, we don't do that sort of thing.

I see a splinter as those smart enough will run from the Trump legacy and there will be those who will repeat that legacy of hate. The policy of hate got him to the big game. Yet it can also said that it is the reason he lost in the 2nd quarter. It will be hard for those to ignore his base and will seek to kiss the don's hand in gaining access to this base. I can only say good luck with that. Make the deal with the devil comes to mind. I see Cruz and other like minds will embrace Trump. Yet it is a double edge sword.

Actually, Trump is going to end up being like Nixon. Nixon won 49 states in 1972, but by 1976, no one was even admitting voting for him.

As stated earlier, Trump isn't the disease, he's just the rash it's broken out into. The GOP will go back to finding some other asshole who pushes the same economic rat poison to white working class people, but without the crazy tweets, by playing on their sexual, religious and racial fears.
Still no answer huh meth head joe?
 
Voting against their own economic interest


What are you talking about? Illinois , california, new Jersey are all going under

Put down the bottle, buddy.


Again meth head joe please explain to us how we are voting against our economic interest when illinois is fucking broke?
You need a new Governor and Legislature. Presidents do not run states.
So in your mind liberals at the state and local level is different then liberals as president?


LMFAO
 
Republicans are being short sighted
Pandering to the MAGA crowd may help them win with the older, white Christians who fear their loss of power.
But younger Americans and minorities are repulsed by the actions of the far right. They are lost forever
Might be true, but the Dems are making a big mistake if they assume too much. They're certainly capable of going too far, as well.

This is why I don't like seeing the GOP turn into a fuckin' psycho ward like this. We need (at least) two strong parties.

When I checked the website of the Dem's national convention in 2016, it took me 15 minutes of clicking around until I saw the first picture of a white male who wasn't obviously depicted as gay.

It's all nice and fine when Democrats care for the issues of non-whites and other minorities ... but if they give a damn about white workers, they shouldn't be surprised when 70% of them then vote for someone like Trump.
This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

And, just as the Trumpsters are refusing to look clearly and honestly in the mirror, so is the Regressive Left. As I always say, the two ends of our political spectrum can be comically similar in their behaviors.


We are NOT using mob violence to terrorize our enemies, and arresting people that defend themselves.

So, the similarities, are not very impressive.
He does not seem to care, and in fact has shown that he revels in the "fuck you" he is watching. I would conclude that he does not believe that we are dead fucking serious.

Texas is GONE. Leaving. It may not be this year, or next year, but the sentiment is real and serious. We are getting the fuck out one way or another. If it's peaceful, great. But, I suspect that the powerbrokers will not give up on the world's 10th largest economy that easily. I am at peace with that eventuality and will die for it.


I don't know how this will shake out


I do know that if they want to marginalize and oppress the single largest ethnic group in the country, that there will be civil unrest that will START at the level of the 60s and grow from there.

I do.
Biden is President.
You won't do shit.
Please keep saying that.

The more you run your shrill mouth, the more this becomes likely:

no-texas-map.gif
Lets return Texas to Mexico
 
What's next for the GOP?

A couple of very interesting pieces this morning. Interestingly, much of what they cover includes what we've been talking about here. The anti-Trump types like the Lincoln Project know damn well that he has a vice-like grip on the party, and will even have to consider running separate candidates, which we haven't really talked about here. The party is so afraid of Trump, in fact, that they're not even engaging in the traditional post-mortem for fear of angering him. Holy crap.

At the same time, they did do better than expected down ticket (or was it the Democrats doing worse than expected?), so that just muddies the waters even more. So what do the next few years look like for the GOP?





Oh, for Trumpsters: Ignore all this, he won, "by a lot", they cheated, he'll stay in office, MAGA.
The Republican Party needs to promote states rights and rage against the tyranny of Washington D.C.
 
Republicans are being short sighted
Pandering to the MAGA crowd may help them win with the older, white Christians who fear their loss of power.
But younger Americans and minorities are repulsed by the actions of the far right. They are lost forever
Might be true, but the Dems are making a big mistake if they assume too much. They're certainly capable of going too far, as well.

This is why I don't like seeing the GOP turn into a fuckin' psycho ward like this. We need (at least) two strong parties.

When I checked the website of the Dem's national convention in 2016, it took me 15 minutes of clicking around until I saw the first picture of a white male who wasn't obviously depicted as gay.

It's all nice and fine when Democrats care for the issues of non-whites and other minorities ... but if they give a damn about white workers, they shouldn't be surprised when 70% of them then vote for someone like Trump.
This is a very large part of why Trump won in 2016 and why the Dems underperformed in November. The Regressive Left wing of the party -- the illiberal, authoritarian end that pushes Political Correctness, Identity Politics and Cancel Culture -- has damaged the party considerably.

And, just as the Trumpsters are refusing to look clearly and honestly in the mirror, so is the Regressive Left. As I always say, the two ends of our political spectrum can be comically similar in their behaviors.


We are NOT using mob violence to terrorize our enemies, and arresting people that defend themselves.

So, the similarities, are not very impressive.
He does not seem to care, and in fact has shown that he revels in the "fuck you" he is watching. I would conclude that he does not believe that we are dead fucking serious.

Texas is GONE. Leaving. It may not be this year, or next year, but the sentiment is real and serious. We are getting the fuck out one way or another. If it's peaceful, great. But, I suspect that the powerbrokers will not give up on the world's 10th largest economy that easily. I am at peace with that eventuality and will die for it.


I don't know how this will shake out


I do know that if they want to marginalize and oppress the single largest ethnic group in the country, that there will be civil unrest that will START at the level of the 60s and grow from there.

I do.
Biden is President.
You won't do shit.
Please keep saying that.

The more you run your shrill mouth, the more this becomes likely:

no-texas-map.gif
Lets return Texas to Mexico
Let's enact martial law in California, depose Newsome, deport all illegal aliens, and return California back to the people.
 

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