The problem with republicans: too much emotion

What is very clear about republicans/tea baggers is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.

See when republicans hear the words "freedom" and "government" in the same sentence there is a strong chemical reaction that occurs in their brains that overwhelms their ability to think critically and realistically. Their thinking becomes very black and white. Government automatically means evil or oppression. Freedom is in jeopardy! Their tender sensibilities really start to show. Reality becomes distorted.

They fail to realize that government is about structure and regulation. It is vital to any nation to function. As long as it is within reason, government must come first. I know that sounds like a scary thought but if you just think about it critically you would understand why it is correct.

Let's break down some issues.

Capitalism, while a successful economic system, needs rules. Republicans have this distorted thinking that tells them liberals want to get rid of capitalism because they believe it should be regulated. Their thinking, as I said, becomes very black and white. Nuance escapes them. It's either libertarianism or it is totalitarianism. There is no inbetween because they put too much stock into the snowball fallacy. You start with small regulation and of course totalitarianism must be inevitable. That of course is just non sense. The truth is life needs rules. Corporations like anyone must follow rules that ensures the greater good. People need fair wages. They also must be protected from business practices that could harm them.

Republicans often are faced with juxtapositions that they are not smart enough to grasp objectively.

Let's examine something as fundamentally important as the first amendment. On the surface, a person could reason that there should be no limitations on freedom of speech. Republicans will of course accept that logic right alway. But, of course, even that amendment can't be that simple. Should we legalize libel or child pornography? Of course not. When you present such logic to republicans their brains simply can't handle the dissonance.

Government spending is another example. They understand that national debt is a bad thing yet aren't smart enough to understand the importance of taxation. They have convinced themselves they can have it both ways: no taxes and no national debt. They lack the maturity to understand that personal sacrifice serves an important purpose. Any functioning nation needs revenue and we all need to contribute.

What's my conclusion? The rightwing ideology is compromised by emotion and philosophy when it should be driven by facts and what serves the greater good.

Republicans, emotion ??

you are a fucking idiot, when it comes to emotion it is you fucking demoscum who are the ones filled with emotion, in nearly every post you all make, you use the word "FEEL" rather than THINK or BELIEVE

"FEEL" is emotion, now please go :fu: yourself :lmao:

Obviously I am referring to my opinion when I use it. Of course I don't expect, you, a conservative to understand the nature of context. It's okay though. I've accepted who you are.
 
Republicans to emotional ? Yet in 2008 and to a lesser degree in 2012 it was the emotional reaction from the left over hope and change that got Obama elected and reelected the left rejected the more low key reserved approach of MCCain and Romney for the more emotional motivational speaker pep rally style of Obama
 
Republicans to emotional ? Yet in 2008 and to a lesser degree in 2012 it was the emotional reaction from the left over hope and change that got Obama elected and reelected the left rejected the more low key reserved approach of MCCain and Romney for the more emotional motivational speaker pep rally style of Obama

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Republicans to emotional ? Yet in 2008 and to a lesser degree in 2012 it was the emotional reaction from the left over hope and change that got Obama elected and reelected the left rejected the more low key reserved approach of MCCain and Romney for the more emotional motivational speaker pep rally style of Obama

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Cute pic but it doesn't change the facts of my post.
 
What’s interesting is that Billy makes an assertions that ‘republicans/tea baggers’ are all emotion without fact and then launches into a monologue doing EXACTLY what he claimed the republicans did.

Truly ironic how emotional and completely devoid of fact Billy is while demanding that is what others are doing.

If we wanted to make Billy’s assertion a little closer to truth the first sentence would read:
“What is very clear about partisan hacks is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.”

A group that Billy clearly belongs in.

Why don’t you take those straw men somewhere else, you didn’t articulate a single republican ‘position’ on anything.
 
What’s interesting is that Billy makes an assertions that ‘republicans/tea baggers’ are all emotion without fact and then launches into a monologue doing EXACTLY what he claimed the republicans did.

Truly ironic how emotional and completely devoid of fact Billy is while demanding that is what others are doing.

If we wanted to make Billy’s assertion a little closer to truth the first sentence would read:
“What is very clear about partisan hacks is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.”

A group that Billy clearly belongs in.

Why don’t you take those straw men somewhere else, you didn’t articulate a single republican ‘position’ on anything.

I have to say the rightwing response to my thread has only confirmed the thread.
 
The problem with Republicans is they haven't done anything for the country in the last 8 years.

Do they actually think American's are going to vote for more of THAT, in a couple of months?
 
The constant dishonesty of the right wing response is deafening. It's not that they have too much emotion, it's that they have no feeling. Their daft ideology has completely taken over their ability to reason. You see it in such nutty positions as "trickle down", their hatred of science and their hatred of a government most people on earth would love to have. They only stand for chaos and anarchy. Yet, when you point out that obvious fact, for some strange reason, they are insulted.

you talking about dishonesty?....hold on a second.....:lol:.....
 
What is very clear about republicans/tea baggers is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.

See when republicans hear the words "freedom" and "government" in the same sentence there is a strong chemical reaction that occurs in their brains that overwhelms their ability to think critically and realistically. Their thinking becomes very black and white. Government automatically means evil or oppression. Freedom is in jeopardy! Their tender sensibilities really start to show. Reality becomes distorted.

They fail to realize that government is about structure and regulation. It is vital to any nation to function. As long as it is within reason, government must come first. I know that sounds like a scary thought but if you just think about it critically you would understand why it is correct.

Let's break down some issues.

Capitalism, while a successful economic system, needs rules. Republicans have this distorted thinking that tells them liberals want to get rid of capitalism because they believe it should be regulated. Their thinking, as I said, becomes very black and white. Nuance escapes them. It's either libertarianism or it is totalitarianism. There is no inbetween because they put too much stock into the snowball fallacy. You start with small regulation and of course totalitarianism must be inevitable. That of course is just non sense. The truth is life needs rules. Corporations like anyone must follow rules that ensures the greater good. People need fair wages. They also must be protected from business practices that could harm them.

Republicans often are faced with juxtapositions that they are not smart enough to grasp objectively.

Let's examine something as fundamentally important as the first amendment. On the surface, a person could reason that there should be no limitations on freedom of speech. Republicans will of course accept that logic right alway. But, of course, even that amendment can't be that simple. Should we legalize libel or child pornography? Of course not. When you present such logic to republicans their brains simply can't handle the dissonance.

Government spending is another example. They understand that national debt is a bad thing yet aren't smart enough to understand the importance of taxation. They have convinced themselves they can have it both ways: no taxes and no national debt. They lack the maturity to understand that personal sacrifice serves an important purpose. Any functioning nation needs revenue and we all need to contribute.

What's my conclusion? The rightwing ideology is compromised by emotion and philosophy when it should be driven by facts and what serves the greater good.

The rightwing ideology is compromised by emotion and philosophy when it should be driven by facts and what serves the greater good.

I was going to write to really long response to your silliness , but I figured - hey - why waste my time- it's only a Liberal simpleton - a picture is worth a thousand words.....

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Suggestion for future posts

When you post 14 images it clogs the page and just makes people jump over your whole post. One relevant image has more of an impact on you making a point than 14 irrelevant ones

have to agree.....its the same with these people who do a post that takes up half the page......
 
It's almost unbelievable to some of us, but there are people who really do want to live under tyranny. As long as the food, housing and medicine are provided, they are fine with having a despotic dictator and no freedom. We can try to reason with these people, but that's what they are content with. It's really as simple as that. They view our constitution and freedoms as the evil that has created a condition where some people have more than others. In their mind, it is far better for everyone to have less but everything be more equal.

There are several serious problems with their line of thinking. First of all, there is never going to be any scenario when all things are equal. As much as we may like to believe this possible, it's simply not. There will forever and always be people who have more than others and people who have less. You can equally distribute everything to everyone and within a generation, left to their own devices, a handful of those people will have most of the stuff and a handful will have nothing. So this is where they believe Government plays a role, sort of like a referee to keep things even. This brings us to the second major problem with their viewpoint, the Government serves its own self-interests. There has never been a government that didn't. The more expansive and powerful the government, the more corrupt and self-serving it becomes. Totalitarian regimes are the most corrupt.

The OP laughs at the conservatives 'emotive' response to 'government' and 'liberty' used together, but the simple fact remains, the more government you have the less personal freedom exists. Yes, it is good to have a government to provide certain collective functions for society and do certain things. That was the primary consideration undertaken when the founding fathers forged our nation. However, the due diligence was in establishing a functioning government which worked with personal liberty with as little interference as possible. Resting ultimate power with the people and granting only limited powers to government for the purpose of administration.

But of course, this was all done by slave-owning rich white men, don't you see? It's far better for us to abandon their principles of government and adopt a failed 19th century system of government that is responsible for over 150 million deaths and endless crippling poverty and oppression. Yes, let's abandon the free market capitalist system that is responsible for creating more millionaires and billionaires than any system ever devised by man, because it's better if we all have a pot to piss in... which we can rinse out before cooking our government issued chicken.

[MENTION=20394]rdean[/MENTION] - Hey Pal -how ya been ? I can you see you qouted me , but can't see what you posted because you've been on my ignore list for a long time now- I gave you months to post something intelligent - you failed - so basically - speak to the hand :eusa_hand: - In the words of Bon Jovi -"Have a Nice Day"

why is he on ignore?....Dean too tough for ya?....
 
What is very clear about republicans/tea baggers is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.

See when republicans hear the words "freedom" and "government" in the same sentence there is a strong chemical reaction that occurs in their brains that overwhelms their ability to think critically and realistically. Their thinking becomes very black and white. Government automatically means evil or oppression. Freedom is in jeopardy! Their tender sensibilities really start to show. Reality becomes distorted.

They fail to realize that government is about structure and regulation. It is vital to any nation to function. As long as it is within reason, government must come first. I know that sounds like a scary thought but if you just think about it critically you would understand why it is correct.

Let's break down some issues.

Capitalism, while a successful economic system, needs rules. Republicans have this distorted thinking that tells them liberals want to get rid of capitalism because they believe it should be regulated. Their thinking, as I said, becomes very black and white. Nuance escapes them. It's either libertarianism or it is totalitarianism. There is no inbetween because they put too much stock into the snowball fallacy. You start with small regulation and of course totalitarianism must be inevitable. That of course is just non sense. The truth is life needs rules. Corporations like anyone must follow rules that ensures the greater good. People need fair wages. They also must be protected from business practices that could harm them.

Republicans often are faced with juxtapositions that they are not smart enough to grasp objectively.

Let's examine something as fundamentally important as the first amendment. On the surface, a person could reason that there should be no limitations on freedom of speech. Republicans will of course accept that logic right alway. But, of course, even that amendment can't be that simple. Should we legalize libel or child pornography? Of course not. When you present such logic to republicans their brains simply can't handle the dissonance.

Government spending is another example. They understand that national debt is a bad thing yet aren't smart enough to understand the importance of taxation. They have convinced themselves they can have it both ways: no taxes and no national debt. They lack the maturity to understand that personal sacrifice serves an important purpose. Any functioning nation needs revenue and we all need to contribute.

What's my conclusion? The rightwing ideology is compromised by emotion and philosophy when it should be driven by facts and what serves the greater good.


You mean an emotional response to something like guns?

You mean the emotional response when talking about economics?

Yeah, the way I see it, modern liberals are far more responsible for throwing around emotionally charged arguments than republicans.
 
What is very clear about republicans/tea baggers is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.

See when republicans hear the words "freedom" and "government" in the same sentence there is a strong chemical reaction that occurs in their brains that overwhelms their ability to think critically and realistically. Their thinking becomes very black and white. Government automatically means evil or oppression. Freedom is in jeopardy! Their tender sensibilities really start to show. Reality becomes distorted.

They fail to realize that government is about structure and regulation. It is vital to any nation to function. As long as it is within reason, government must come first. I know that sounds like a scary thought but if you just think about it critically you would understand why it is correct.

Let's break down some issues.

Capitalism, while a successful economic system, needs rules. Republicans have this distorted thinking that tells them liberals want to get rid of capitalism because they believe it should be regulated. Their thinking, as I said, becomes very black and white. Nuance escapes them. It's either libertarianism or it is totalitarianism. There is no inbetween because they put too much stock into the snowball fallacy. You start with small regulation and of course totalitarianism must be inevitable. That of course is just non sense. The truth is life needs rules. Corporations like anyone must follow rules that ensures the greater good. People need fair wages. They also must be protected from business practices that could harm them.

Republicans often are faced with juxtapositions that they are not smart enough to grasp objectively.

Let's examine something as fundamentally important as the first amendment. On the surface, a person could reason that there should be no limitations on freedom of speech. Republicans will of course accept that logic right alway. But, of course, even that amendment can't be that simple. Should we legalize libel or child pornography? Of course not. When you present such logic to republicans their brains simply can't handle the dissonance.

Government spending is another example. They understand that national debt is a bad thing yet aren't smart enough to understand the importance of taxation. They have convinced themselves they can have it both ways: no taxes and no national debt. They lack the maturity to understand that personal sacrifice serves an important purpose. Any functioning nation needs revenue and we all need to contribute.

What's my conclusion? The rightwing ideology is compromised by emotion and philosophy when it should be driven by facts and what serves the greater good.


You mean an emotional response to something like guns?

You mean the emotional response when talking about economics?

Yeah, the way I see it, modern liberals are far more responsible for throwing around emotionally charged arguments than republicans.

Are you actually suggesting republicans don't get emotional about guns?
 
I'm saying that almost every single modern day liberal position is predicated off from an appeal to emotion. And I do mean almost ALL of them.

From the illogical gun control/ban argument, to the "callous conservative" that wants to let the children immigrants starve, to "letting old ladies die in the street" if we do not pay for their care services, to "evil" corporations an d"1%ers" to you name it.

Every single position is predicated off from these emotionally charged arguments and they spill out all over this board on a daily basis.

You might want to take a good, hard long look in the mirror before indicting republicans on appeal to emotion.
 
Your argument is "Republicans are too stupid" and you think we are the emotional ones who ignore facts?

Government cannot fix our problems. It doesn't matter how much you might want it to, it can't do it. And the longer we expect government or someone else to address our problems, the longer it will be until we get rid of those problems.

You cannot continually outsource your responsibilities and duties to someone else and expect things to get done. You cannot expect others to give you what you aren't willing to work for and provide yourself. You cannot keep spending our children and grandchildrens money and expect society to turn out alright. You can't encourage people to abandon their families and expect and outsource responsibility for teaching them to schools without consequences.

humble yourself. Stop seeing people who disagree with you as idiots. Educate yourself on the truth and the truth will set you free. Get rid of the lies in your life, starting with the one that you are better than everyone else.
 
I'm saying that almost every single modern day liberal position is predicated off from an appeal to emotion. And I do mean almost ALL of them.

From the illogical gun control/ban argument, to the "callous conservative" that wants to let the children immigrants starve, to "letting old ladies die in the street" if we do not pay for their care services, to "evil" corporations an d"1%ers" to you name it.

Every single position is predicated off from these emotionally charged arguments and they spill out all over this board on a daily basis.

You might want to take a good, hard long look in the mirror before indicting republicans on appeal to emotion.

I don't think self analysis is a common activity among the Original poster and those that agreed with him. But I hope they adopt it soon, for their sake.
 
What is very clear about republicans/tea baggers is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.

See when republicans hear the words "freedom" and "government" in the same sentence there is a strong chemical reaction that occurs in their brains that overwhelms their ability to think critically and realistically. Their thinking becomes very black and white. Government automatically means evil or oppression. Freedom is in jeopardy! Their tender sensibilities really start to show. Reality becomes distorted.

They fail to realize that government is about structure and regulation. It is vital to any nation to function. As long as it is within reason, government must come first. I know that sounds like a scary thought but if you just think about it critically you would understand why it is correct.

Let's break down some issues.

Capitalism, while a successful economic system, needs rules. Republicans have this distorted thinking that tells them liberals want to get rid of capitalism because they believe it should be regulated. Their thinking, as I said, becomes very black and white. Nuance escapes them. It's either libertarianism or it is totalitarianism. There is no inbetween because they put too much stock into the snowball fallacy. You start with small regulation and of course totalitarianism must be inevitable. That of course is just non sense. The truth is life needs rules. Corporations like anyone must follow rules that ensures the greater good. People need fair wages. They also must be protected from business practices that could harm them.

Republicans often are faced with juxtapositions that they are not smart enough to grasp objectively.

Let's examine something as fundamentally important as the first amendment. On the surface, a person could reason that there should be no limitations on freedom of speech. Republicans will of course accept that logic right alway. But, of course, even that amendment can't be that simple. Should we legalize libel or child pornography? Of course not. When you present such logic to republicans their brains simply can't handle the dissonance.

Government spending is another example. They understand that national debt is a bad thing yet aren't smart enough to understand the importance of taxation. They have convinced themselves they can have it both ways: no taxes and no national debt. They lack the maturity to understand that personal sacrifice serves an important purpose. Any functioning nation needs revenue and we all need to contribute.

What's my conclusion? The rightwing ideology is compromised by emotion and philosophy when it should be driven by facts and what serves the greater good.


You mean an emotional response to something like guns?

You mean the emotional response when talking about economics?

Yeah, the way I see it, modern liberals are far more responsible for throwing around emotionally charged arguments than republicans.

Are you actually suggesting republicans don't get emotional about guns?

I think any rational person would get pissed off at some arrogant fool who wants to take away their right to defend themselves and their family.
 
You mean an emotional response to something like guns?

You mean the emotional response when talking about economics?

Yeah, the way I see it, modern liberals are far more responsible for throwing around emotionally charged arguments than republicans.

Are you actually suggesting republicans don't get emotional about guns?

I think any rational person would get pissed off at some arrogant fool who wants to take away their right to defend themselves and their family.

Who is trying to do that?

No one.
 
What is very clear about republicans/tea baggers is that emotion rather than facts and critical thinking dictate their political views.

Yeah. Right. Let's get something straight, Billy Boy, progressivism (neo-liberal fascism) is sheer sentimental emotionalism, an ideology that is nothing more than a collection of slogans, an endless train of new, governmentally imposed positive rights/protections bounded by absolutely nothing but the latest hysteria.


See when republicans hear the words "freedom" and "government" in the same sentence there is a strong chemical reaction that occurs in their brains that overwhelms their ability to think critically and realistically. Their thinking becomes very black and white.

LOL! "Black-and-White Think" is Lefty's middle name.

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Government automatically means evil or oppression. Freedom is in jeopardy! Their tender sensibilities really start to show. Reality becomes distorted.

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. —Thomas Paine​

Only damn fools don't know that, and as I have written elsewhere:

Leftists ceaselessly conspire to undermine the constitutional restraints of limited-divided government that stand in the way of their statist agenda. This collectivist treachery flies under the banner of faux civil rights asserted against the imperatives of the inalienable human rights of the individual. —M. D. Rawlings​

Hence, the proper limits of governmental power are rightly understood by the conservative—predicated on a purely intellectual calculation, a certain ontological absolute informed by the realities of existence and those of human nature. Lefty's ideology, on the other hand, is that wet, snot-stained-hanky feelin' ya get every time he opens his blubbering pie hole, wrings his hands over the latest crisis—whatever pixie flies out of his ass—and runs to Mommy Government's tit.


They fail to realize that government is about structure and regulation.

Yeah. Right. Like that isn't a truism.


As long as it is within reason, government must come first. I know that sounds like a scary thought but if you just think about it critically you would understand why it is correct.

Translation: Lefty is a puddle of wet panties scared to death of the seemingly unpredictable dynamics of liberty.


. . . Capitalism, while a successful economic system, needs rules. Republicans have this distorted thinking that tells them liberals want to get rid of capitalism because they believe it should be regulated. Their thinking, as I said, becomes very black and white. Nuance escapes them. It's either libertarianism or it is totalitarianism. There is no inbetween because they put too much stock into the snowball fallacy. You start with small regulation and of course totalitarianism must be inevitable. That of course is just non sense. The truth is life needs rules. Corporations like anyone must follow rules that ensures the greater good. People need fair wages. They also must be protected from business practices that could harm them.

Translation: Lefty is a puddle of wet panties scared to death of the seemingly unpredictable dynamics of liberty.

Here's the truth from another post:

The Founders, like Locke, . . . extrapolated [their] political philosophy from historical experience and the sociopolitical ramifications of Judeo-Christianity's historically unique rendering of the Golden Rule, which emphasizes the dignity of the individual over the mundane concerns of the collective. The former not only provides for a more dynamically creative society, but also, for a more cohesive, cooperatively stable society . . . though that be counterintuitive to the statist mindset of universal "tolerance". But it isn't counterintuitive to the alert student of history given the long train of short-lived societies that were given over to the throes of mobocracy of one kind or another, and the reason for their instability is self-evident to those who rightly understand the immutable composition of human nature. —M. D. Rawlings

The rest of your post is more of the same blubber parading as reason, a cover for your cowardice and your petty little beefs with liberty. You're just another control freak terrified of his own shadow.
 
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