The Republican Tax Cut Myth

[Timmy]

Taxing labor is immoral. Taxation is theft. How about the feds spend less and you know, live within the confines of the Constitution as intended. No immoral programs that absolutely 100% require involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents. Freedom baby, that's the answer.

But of course, you know what's best for everyone else, so what's a little theft and indentured servitude if you're heart's in the right place.

How are you going to run the country ? Wh donations ? Yeah that will work .

 

[eflatminor]

Taxing labor is immoral. Taxation is theft. How about the feds spend less and you know, live within the confines of the Constitution as intended. No immoral programs that absolutely 100% require involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents. Freedom baby, that's the answer.

But of course, you know what's best for everyone else, so what's a little theft and indentured servitude if you're heart's in the right place.

How are you going to run the country ? Wh donations ? Yeah that will work .

The country ran just fine from the founding until 1913. No income tax.

Yes, that worked.

 

[WillowTree]

Taxing labor is immoral. Taxation is theft. How about the feds spend less and you know, live within the confines of the Constitution as intended. No immoral programs that absolutely 100% require involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents. Freedom baby, that's the answer.

But of course, you know what's best for everyone else, so what's a little theft and indentured servitude if you're heart's in the right place.

How are you going to run the country ? Wh donations ? Yeah that will work .

A flat tax of 2

Taxing labor is immoral. Taxation is theft. How about the feds spend less and you know, live within the confines of the Constitution as intended. No immoral programs that absolutely 100% require involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents. Freedom baby, that's the answer.

But of course, you know what's best for everyone else, so what's a little theft and indentured servitude if you're heart's in the right place.

How are you going to run the country ? Wh donations ? Yeah that will work .

start cutting. Start with congressional pay. Did you know that asswipe obummer wanted a raise in his retirement pay?

 

[WillowTree]

Term limits.
Make congress comply with the laws they pass. Start with the immigration law!

 

[Norman]

Taxation is theft.

Less tax = less theft.

I like less theft, as does every moral person, not the OP obviously.

 

[OKTexas]

Obama drastically cut deficits.

Trump wants to ramp them back up.

It's Okay When Trump Does It!™

That's what Trump did as a private citizen, too. He borrowed heavily, and then lost billions for his investors.

Get ready America. You're about to be ass-fucked again.

Trump actually believes he can renegotiate America's debt the same way he renegotiated in bankruptcy court!

Even worse, his Plan B is to hyperinflate the shit out of our currency.

Obama cut deficites?

You're even dumber than I originally suspected? How is a $1.5 trillion deficit a cut?

He started at $1.5 trillion
Got it down to $600 billion

Yeah, but the off budget expenditure ballooned the over all debt. The deficit is a BS indicator, it only accounts for 30% of government spending.


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[sartre play]

Trump plan jeopardizes Social Security.

 

[Proud White American]

80 % of Trump tax cuts go to people who have incomes over 1 million.

That's plain wrong.

The tax cuts will help everyone except those who sit on their fucking lazy asses, don't work, don't have investments, and don't pay taxes or contribute anything to society. They won't help the welfare leaches in other words.

Besides what's wrong with cutting taxes for millionaires? Being a millionaire these days isn't the top 1%. Many millionaires are business owners who create jobs. They're the ones who deserve most of the tax cuts.

 

[sartre play]

Its that same old game political party's play. the Trump tax cuts start out not to horrible, then slowly change until the final 2027 effects are felt.
the 2 lowest 5ths will benefit between less than $50 a year & $230
the middle4th & 5th $420 $450
highest $ 10,610
top 1% 207,060
top 0.1% 1,022,120

 

[WillowTree]

Trump plan jeopardizes Social Security.

How?

 

[Timmy]

Taxing labor is immoral. Taxation is theft. How about the feds spend less and you know, live within the confines of the Constitution as intended. No immoral programs that absolutely 100% require involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents. Freedom baby, that's the answer.

But of course, you know what's best for everyone else, so what's a little theft and indentured servitude if you're heart's in the right place.

How are you going to run the country ? Wh donations ? Yeah that will work .

The country ran just fine from the founding until 1913. No income tax.

Yes, that worked.

Awesome . We’ll go back to horse n buggy and cannonballs !

 

[Timmy]

Taxation is theft.

Less tax = less theft.

I like less theft, as does every moral person, not the OP obviously.

How is it theft ? It’s a part of being a country. Are you stealing if you drive on public roads paid for by taxes ?

You can’t have a country without taxes . Unless you have some small country sitting in a bunch of Oil.

 

[eflatminor]

Taxing labor is immoral. Taxation is theft. How about the feds spend less and you know, live within the confines of the Constitution as intended. No immoral programs that absolutely 100% require involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents. Freedom baby, that's the answer.

But of course, you know what's best for everyone else, so what's a little theft and indentured servitude if you're heart's in the right place.

How are you going to run the country ? Wh donations ? Yeah that will work .

The country ran just fine from the founding until 1913. No income tax.

Yes, that worked.

Awesome . We’ll go back to horse n buggy and cannonballs !

Please explain how the federal government operating within the confines of their enumerated powers as originally intended (no income tax required), would result in a backward progression in the market for transportation and large weapons.

Thank you.

 

[eflatminor]

Taxation is theft.

Less tax = less theft.

I like less theft, as does every moral person, not the OP obviously.

How is it theft ? It’s a part of being a country. Are you stealing if you drive on public roads paid for by taxes ?

You can’t have a country without taxes . Unless you have some small country sitting in a bunch of Oil.

You drive on a road, you can pay a toll.

Problem solved.

And yes, it's theft. It's theft because it's involuntary.

One day humans will regard income tax as yet another example of the morally reprehensible nature of central planners.

If your plan for revenue absolutely 100% requires involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents, you've got yourself an inherently immoral, anti-freedom, downright tyrannous idea. Best think again.

That it is currently law does not impress me. Your people have long made similar arguments for all kinds of laws and rules that everyone today finds horrific.

Taxation is absolutely theft made particularly reprehensible by the concept of wealth redistribution, which means you are forcing some to labor on the behalf of others.

Sound familiar?

 

[sartre play]

Willow, in answer to your question, Social Security funded 100% by payroll tax, with the changes money would have to start coming out of the general fund. causing it to no longer be self sufficient.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama drastically cut deficits.

Trump wants to ramp them back up.

It's Okay When Trump Does It!™

That's what Trump did as a private citizen, too. He borrowed heavily, and then lost billions for his investors.

Get ready America. You're about to be ass-fucked again.

Trump actually believes he can renegotiate America's debt the same way he renegotiated in bankruptcy court!

Even worse, his Plan B is to hyperinflate the shit out of our currency.

Obama cut deficites?

You're even dumber than I originally suspected? How is a $1.5 trillion deficit a cut?

He started at $1.5 trillion
Got it down to $600 billion

In other words, he increased the deficit to the highest point it's ever been.

The Great Obama stopped a depression

Crooked Donnie is the first to have debt over $20 trillion

The Great Obama stopped a depression

The recession ended in June 2009.
What did Blowbama do to stop a depression between Jan 20, 2009 and June 2009?
Be specific.

$800 billion economic stimulus
Both the stock market crash and unemployment reversed immediately after it passed

Not a single Republican voted to stop a depression

 

[rightwinger]

Taxation is theft.

Less tax = less theft.

I like less theft, as does every moral person, not the OP obviously.

How is it theft ? It’s a part of being a country. Are you stealing if you drive on public roads paid for by taxes ?

You can’t have a country without taxes . Unless you have some small country sitting in a bunch of Oil.

You drive on a road, you can pay a toll.

Problem solved.

And yes, it's theft. It's theft because it's involuntary.

One day humans will regard income tax as yet another example of the morally reprehensible nature of central planners.

If your plan for revenue absolutely 100% requires involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents, you've got yourself an inherently immoral, anti-freedom, downright tyrannous idea. Best think again.

That it is currently law does not impress me. Your people have long made similar arguments for all kinds of laws and rules that everyone today finds horrific.

Taxation is absolutely theft made particularly reprehensible by the concept of wealth redistribution, which means you are forcing some to labor on the behalf of others.

Sound familiar?

Taxation is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.......Oliver Wendel Holmes

 

[rightwinger]

12 years ago
Also, Ewe know he did not include his deductions or business information

Yew lead a sad life obsessing about how rich Trump his. Jealous much?

Living in the New York area, I have watched Trumps career since the early 80s. I have always considered him a sideshow and a man of poor character

My opinion has not changed

Yes but you loved the corruption of Obama’s and the Clintons.

The Great Obama had the least corrupt administration since Jimmy Carter

Liar

Facts don't lie

Name any prosecutions or convictions

 

[bripat9643]

Obama cut deficites?

You're even dumber than I originally suspected? How is a $1.5 trillion deficit a cut?

He started at $1.5 trillion
Got it down to $600 billion

In other words, he increased the deficit to the highest point it's ever been.

The Great Obama stopped a depression

Crooked Donnie is the first to have debt over $20 trillion

The Great Obama stopped a depression

The recession ended in June 2009.
What did Blowbama do to stop a depression between Jan 20, 2009 and June 2009?
Be specific.

$800 billion economic stimulus
Both the stock market crash and unemployment reversed immediately after it passed

Not a single Republican voted to stop a depression

The economy was already recovering before Obama was even inaugurated. Unemployment is a lagging indicator. The stock market is not a good indicator of anything because it can go in either direction during a recovery.

 

[bripat9643]

Taxation is theft.

Less tax = less theft.

I like less theft, as does every moral person, not the OP obviously.

How is it theft ? It’s a part of being a country. Are you stealing if you drive on public roads paid for by taxes ?

You can’t have a country without taxes . Unless you have some small country sitting in a bunch of Oil.

You drive on a road, you can pay a toll.

Problem solved.

And yes, it's theft. It's theft because it's involuntary.

One day humans will regard income tax as yet another example of the morally reprehensible nature of central planners.

If your plan for revenue absolutely 100% requires involuntary compliance enforced by armed government agents, you've got yourself an inherently immoral, anti-freedom, downright tyrannous idea. Best think again.

That it is currently law does not impress me. Your people have long made similar arguments for all kinds of laws and rules that everyone today finds horrific.

Taxation is absolutely theft made particularly reprehensible by the concept of wealth redistribution, which means you are forcing some to labor on the behalf of others.

Sound familiar?

Taxation is the price we pay to live in a civilized society.......Oliver Wendel Holmes

Taxation is theft, pure and simple. It's not a voluntary transaction.