The Second Greatest Political Lie

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I certainly believe that you are so mind-warped by Leftist propaganda that you can never admit the truth.

A relativist would not know the truth is it smacked 'em in the mouth.

 

[Wry Catcher]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

#2 is a LIE of Omission:

See: Liberalism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[Wry Catcher]

See too: Conservatism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[jillian]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

i'd be happy if she just stopped cutting and pasting these absurd things that are so unwieldy they're not worth responding to.

but i guess that's what stupid people think smart people are supposed to sound like.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

#2 is a LIE of Omission:

See: Liberalism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

ROFLMNAO!

Left-think, OKA: Liberalism is not a philosophy... it is an ideology.

Reader, the would-be 'contributor' to whom I am responding is no where near bright enough to understand the gulf of distinction between the two opposing concepts, however, I present you with the definitions of each respective concept, for your consideration.

Ideology: a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.

• the ideas and manner of thinking characteristic of a group, social class, or individual.

Philosophy: the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

See also natural philosophy.• a particular system of philosophical thought: Schopenhauer’s philosophy.• the study of the theoretical basis of a particular branch of knowledge or experience.

Left-think is an Ideology.

Conservatism, is a Philosophy.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

i'd be happy if she just stopped cutting and pasting these absurd things that are so unwieldy they're not worth responding to.

but i guess that's what stupid people think smart people are supposed to sound like.

LOL!

So the argument is copied... absurd..., thus its something with which you're well aware, which would mean that you're well capable of refuting the argument, but... for some unstated reason, you can't refute it, claiming that the argument is simply 'not worth responding to'.

I guess the coolest thing about that, is that the argument exposes you and your cult-mates as children and fools... thus your character is at issue, which you have no asserted is not worthy of a defense, ... LOL! Which you imply is readily available to you.

ROFL!

You can NOT make this pitiful crap up.

 

[TemplarKormac]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

#2 is a LIE of Omission:

See: Liberalism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

It is a marvel to behold how PC constantly and consistently destroys you in this thread.

You call #2 a "lie of omission" but can't present her with whatever presumed fact or truth she omitted. That is quite clear by your name calling and random citations of argumentative fallacies.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.

What is awful is the way you keep stepping it while you're shoveling your ignorant bullshit!

Chica, Thoreau was a bloody ANARCHIST! You're the one who should be doing the reading and study of On the duty of Civil Disobedience! That is clearly displayed in the first few sentences of his essay:

"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." [Emphasis Added]

You really should have read ABOUT Thoreau before implying he was an INDIVIDUALIST according to your definition and misguided understanding. You will, no doubt dance around, disavow any fault, sling ad hominem and deflect from the point proven above to avoid all responsibility for your error, but that will not only show your unsavory side and abhorrence to critical thinking and the naked truth, but again show your penchant for dishonesty and lack of any reasoned sense of ethical conduct!

Were you self-taught?

 

[bripat9643]

Pseudo-intellectualism.

Look it up.

Retard. Look it up.

 

[bripat9643]

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.

What is awful is the way you keep stepping it while you're shoveling your ignorant bullshit!

Chica, Thoreau was a bloody ANARCHIST! You're the one who should be doing the reading and study of On the duty of Civil Disobedience! That is clearly displayed in the first few sentences of his essay:

"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." [Emphasis Added]

You really should have read ABOUT Thoreau before implying he was an INDIVIDUALIST according to your definition and misguided understanding. You will, no doubt dance around, disavow any fault, sling ad hominem and deflect from the point proven above to avoid all responsibility for your error, but that will not only show your unsavory side and abhorrence to critical thinking and the naked truth, but again show your penchant for dishonesty and lack of any reasoned sense of ethical conduct!

Were you self-taught?

I'm also an anarchist, but I'm also a capitalist who believes in private property and free exchange.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.

What is awful is the way you keep stepping it while you're shoveling your ignorant bullshit!

Chica, Thoreau was a bloody ANARCHIST! You're the one who should be doing the reading and study of On the duty of Civil Disobedience! That is clearly displayed in the first few sentences of his essay:

"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." [Emphasis Added]

You really should have read ABOUT Thoreau before implying he was an INDIVIDUALIST according to your definition and misguided understanding. You will, no doubt dance around, disavow any fault, sling ad hominem and deflect from the point proven above to avoid all responsibility for your error, but that will not only show your unsavory side and abhorrence to critical thinking and the naked truth, but again show your penchant for dishonesty and lack of any reasoned sense of ethical conduct!

Were you self-taught?

I'm also an anarchist, but I'm also a capitalist who believes in private property and free exchange.

And your point is obviously atop your head, because your post is irrelevant, TROLL!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.

What is awful is the way you keep stepping it while you're shoveling your ignorant bullshit!

Chica, Thoreau was a bloody ANARCHIST! You're the one who should be doing the reading and study of On the duty of Civil Disobedience! That is clearly displayed in the first few sentences of his essay:

"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." [Emphasis Added]

You really should have read ABOUT Thoreau before implying he was an INDIVIDUALIST according to your definition and misguided understanding. You will, no doubt dance around, disavow any fault, sling ad hominem and deflect from the point proven above to avoid all responsibility for your error, but that will not only show your unsavory side and abhorrence to critical thinking and the naked truth, but again show your penchant for dishonesty and lack of any reasoned sense of ethical conduct!

Were you self-taught?

ROFL!

People read what they want to read, I guess... .

In truth, Chic didn't present Thoreau as 'Individualism in Perfection'. That said... nothing in your citation, contests a word she advanced in her citation. In your citation, Thoreau speaks to the need for the individual to be prepared for a government that does the least; meaning that the individual must be prepared to bear the burden of responsibility, for their lives, for their freedom. This being a circumstance for which he advocates, which stands four square within the scope and depth of the principles that define America.

So... let me ask, since you are clearly ignorant of that truth... were you self taught?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Nothin' comin to mind there Thoughtcrime? It seemed like ya had a point you wanted to make... now ya seem fascinated with somethin' else.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Huh... what CAN we make of that?

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.

What is awful is the way you keep stepping it while you're shoveling your ignorant bullshit!

Chica, Thoreau was a bloody ANARCHIST! You're the one who should be doing the reading and study of On the duty of Civil Disobedience! That is clearly displayed in the first few sentences of his essay:

"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." [Emphasis Added]

You really should have read ABOUT Thoreau before implying he was an INDIVIDUALIST according to your definition and misguided understanding. You will, no doubt dance around, disavow any fault, sling ad hominem and deflect from the point proven above to avoid all responsibility for your error, but that will not only show your unsavory side and abhorrence to critical thinking and the naked truth, but again show your penchant for dishonesty and lack of any reasoned sense of ethical conduct!

Were you self-taught?

ROFL!

People read what they want to read, I guess... .

In truth, Chic didn't present Thoreau as 'Individualism in Perfection'. That said... nothing in your citation, contests a word she advanced in her citation. In your citation, Thoreau speaks to the need for the individual to be prepared for a government that does the least; meaning that the individual must be prepared to bear the burden of responsibility, for their lives, for their freedom. This being a circumstance for which he advocates, which stands four square within the scope and depth of the principles that define America.

So... let me ask, since you are clearly ignorant of that truth... were you self taught?

You err! Chica's entire BS line is a comparison in philosophies.

I KNOW Thoreau's philosophy was NOT that of Chica's dream "conservative"! Thoreau was a fucking ANARCHRIST, and you would know that if you were familiar with his bio. Hell, if you were capable of understanding the lead in I quoted from On the duty of Civil Disobedience, you may not have put your foot in your mouth! Reread and study the final line for a clue!!!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.

What is awful is the way you keep stepping it while you're shoveling your ignorant bullshit!

Chica, Thoreau was a bloody ANARCHIST! You're the one who should be doing the reading and study of On the duty of Civil Disobedience! That is clearly displayed in the first few sentences of his essay:

"I HEARTILY ACCEPT the motto, — "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have." [Emphasis Added]

You really should have read ABOUT Thoreau before implying he was an INDIVIDUALIST according to your definition and misguided understanding. You will, no doubt dance around, disavow any fault, sling ad hominem and deflect from the point proven above to avoid all responsibility for your error, but that will not only show your unsavory side and abhorrence to critical thinking and the naked truth, but again show your penchant for dishonesty and lack of any reasoned sense of ethical conduct!

Were you self-taught?

I'm also an anarchist, but I'm also a capitalist who believes in private property and free exchange.

You need a government to protect private property, so you can't be both.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You err! Chica's entire BS line is a comparison in philosophies.

I KNOW Thoreau's philosophy was NOT that of Chica's dream "conservative"! Thoreau was a fucking ANARCHRIST...

Anarchy is a function of the individual... not states. Thoreau, not being an idiot... understood that.

Americans are ALL anarchist. We are sovereigns unto ourselves... we govern ourselves, sustain ourselves and our families, and we do so despite government, not as a consequence of it.

That you feel Thoreau was something he was not... says far more about you and your limitations, than it does about Chic and her thesis.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You need a government to protect private property, so you can't be both.

Do ya? Now you're basing this upon what Gilligan?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You need a government to protect private property, so you can't be both.

Do ya? Now you're basing this upon what Gilligan?

I'm basing it on common sense logic and reason that are concepts alien to the humanoids on your planet.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You need a government to protect private property, so you can't be both.

Do ya? Now you're basing this upon what Gilligan?

I'm basing it on common sense logic and reason that are concepts alien to the humanoids on your planet.

OH! So you have absolutely no basis for your assertion... .

LOL!

Color me SHOCKED!

Gilligan you're helpless.