Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
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Oddball
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Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
The people whose earnings are looted to support it own absolutely none of it.
Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
Oddball
Unobtanium Member
- Banned
- #324
I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that we be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
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But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
Oddball
Unobtanium Member
- Banned
- #326
Ownership = control...That it is funded through organized theft is entirely irrelevant to anything.But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
What control do you or I have over the military?
You help fund it you idiot. The community as a whole funds it. This is pretty basic common sense.Ownership = control...That it is funded through organized theft is entirely irrelevant to anything.But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
.What control do you or I have over the military?
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You get to vote!Ownership = control...That it is funded through organized theft is entirely irrelevant to anything.But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
What control do you or I have over the military?
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Oddball
Unobtanium Member
- Banned
- #329
That has nothing to do with ownership.You help fund it you idiot. The community as a whole finds it. This is pretty basic common sense.Ownership = control...That it is funded through organized theft is entirely irrelevant to anything.But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
.What control do you or I have over the military?
I fund my bank through interest and fees, that doesn't mean I own it, sub-cretin.
Oddball
Unobtanium Member
- Banned
- #330
My cup runneth over!]
You get to vote!Ownership = control...That it is funded through organized theft is entirely irrelevant to anything.But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
What control do you or I have over the military?
Andylusion
Platinum Member
Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
Andylusion
Platinum Member
You help fund it you idiot. The community as a whole funds it. This is pretty basic common sense.Ownership = control...That it is funded through organized theft is entirely irrelevant to anything.But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
.What control do you or I have over the military?
Oh good night....
I help fund the Donatos pizza shop down the street. Doesn't mean I own it.
I help fund the Stock Mutual Fund I have an account with... doesn't mean I own the mutual fund. I own my shares that I purchased, but that doesn't mean I own the entire mutual fund (or I am way way underpaid right now).
Common sense is one thing you have shown absolutely none of in the last dozen posts you have made.
Andylusion
Platinum Member
But you said that socialism was defined by state ownership. That’s the simple disconnect that escapes you lol. The state AND the people own the institution. The people own it by FUNDING it.I'm not making any argument for you.Oh I love your adorable double speak. Now you’re just making the argument for me. How precious.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
It's owned by The State, dumnbfuck.
If "the people"owned the military, any one of us could stroll onto any military base and demand to use one of their vehicles or that they be given flying lessons by their instructors on a military plane...":The people who fund it" don't own jack shit, numbnutz.
I would love to see a video of you, going to the nearest military base saying "I own this because I helped fund it". I want to see you walk on the military base saying that. Let us see how well that goes for you. I can't wait. Make sure you have people filming you from off government property, because I really want a good laugh.
Haven't driven onto a military base with out proper clearance.... I would LOVE to see you do so with your "we own it!" theory.
This by the way, is why all socialism sucks in any other context. You own something in community... you own nothing. Everyone owns it, then no one owns it, and it ends up being wasted by everyone but the elites in government that live luxurious lives.
Hugo Chavez, and his daughter, the Castros, the Kims in North Korea. Anything owned in common by everyone, ends up being owned by no one.
Terry Anderson on Native American Economics - Econlib
Terry Anderson of PERC talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about economic life for Native Americans. Anderson discusses economic life before the arrival of Europeans and how current policy affects Native Americans living on reservations today.
www.econtalk.org
Everyone complains that we have made the native Americans poor, and we did...... through enforced socialism. We made the lands given to the tribes communal land. And because of that, anyone who stays on the land, remains poor for life.
I was visiting an Indian on the Flathead Reservation here in Montana and we were taking some Swiss people to visit this person; and I was explaining to the Swiss people that it's likely to be a substandard house, poor care of the land, and so on. We arrive; it's a beautiful home, nice car, library. And ultimately I said to the member of the Salish-Kootenai Confederated Tribes, 'This is an anomaly. How do you explain it?' And he leaned on his elbow and said, 'I own this place.' And I said, 'But aren't we on the Reservation? Dah, dah, dah.' 'I own this place.' And the third time, when I ask a stupid question, he said, 'I own this place,' and I said, 'Like I own my house?' And he said, 'Yes.'
Terry Anderson, found that the reason the other tribes are utterly impoverished is because they don't own the land.... not privately at least. They own it, like you suggest "in community".... which means no one owns it, which means everyone is poor.Socialism is what has kept the native Americans in our country poor. Every native American that has engaged in Capitalism, has ended up wealthy. Just like every time Capitalism is tried by anyone.
Lol right you quote the definition without your own interpretation. And yeah, it is the second half because you chose to ignore it. You still haven’t explained what it means. What does social ownership mean? Go ahead. I’ll wait.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
It doesn’t matter what the military DOES. The DEFENSE BUDGET is funded and therefore owned by the community as a whole.
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Oddball
Unobtanium Member
- Banned
- #335
Lol right you quote the definition without your own interpretation. And yeah, it is the second half because you chose ignore it. You still haven’t explained what it means. What does social ownership mean? Go ahead. I’ll wait.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
It doesn’t matter what the military DOES. The DEFENSE BUDGET is funded and therefore owned by the community as a whole.
And what’s your excuse? It’s not like you have any formal understanding of economics - not even close.View attachment 388368Lol right you quote the definition without your own interpretation. And yeah, it is the second half because you chose ignore it. You still haven’t explained what it means. What does social ownership mean? Go ahead. I’ll wait.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
It doesn’t matter what the military DOES. The DEFENSE BUDGET is funded and therefore owned by the community as a whole.
Oddball
Unobtanium Member
- Banned
- #337
I understand plenty....A fuckton more than you.....That's beyond certain.And what’s your excuse? It’s not like you have any formal understanding of economics - not even close.View attachment 388368Lol right you quote the definition without your own interpretation. And yeah, it is the second half because you chose ignore it. You still haven’t explained what it means. What does social ownership mean? Go ahead. I’ll wait.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
It doesn’t matter what the military DOES. The DEFENSE BUDGET is funded and therefore owned by the community as a whole.
Lol no you really don’t. You aren’t basing that off of anything. You have no explanation whatsoever why you think that quote doesn’t apply to you.I understand plenty....A fuckton more than you.....That's beyond certain.And what’s your excuse? It’s not like you have any formal understanding of economics - not even close.View attachment 388368Lol right you quote the definition without your own interpretation. And yeah, it is the second half because you chose ignore it. You still haven’t explained what it means. What does social ownership mean? Go ahead. I’ll wait.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
It doesn’t matter what the military DOES. The DEFENSE BUDGET is funded and therefore owned by the community as a whole.
Oddball
Unobtanium Member
- Banned
- #339
I'm basing that off of the complete illiteracy you've posted, here and elsewhere....You seriously have NFI what you're blabbering about.....As in none.Lol no you really don’t. You aren’t basing that off of anything. You have no explanation whatsoever why you think that quote doesn’t apply to you.I understand plenty....A fuckton more than you.....That's beyond certain.And what’s your excuse? It’s not like you have any formal understanding of economics - not even close.View attachment 388368Lol right you quote the definition without your own interpretation. And yeah, it is the second half because you chose ignore it. You still haven’t explained what it means. What does social ownership mean? Go ahead. I’ll wait.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
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noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
It doesn’t matter what the military DOES. The DEFENSE BUDGET is funded and therefore owned by the community as a whole.
I'm now checking out of this battle of wits with the unarmed.
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And what’s your excuse? It’s not like you have any formal understanding of economics - not even close.View attachment 388368Lol right you quote the definition without your own interpretation. And yeah, it is the second half because you chose ignore it. You still haven’t explained what it means. What does social ownership mean? Go ahead. I’ll wait.Why is it that you think you understand what socialism means if you’re too much of a disingenuous pussy to include the full definition? Tell me what is it that you think the second half of the definition means even though you pretend it doesn’t exist? The defense budget is owned by the people who FUND it. That is an example of socialism.No you idiot. The military is funded by tax payers. There’s the other half of the definition of socialism that you all PATHETICALLY and intentionally leave out which is “...distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.” Be an adult.Lol you’re so dense. The US has been socialist since the beginning. Our defense budget is the biggest socialist institution in the world.Actually every government around the world is socialist to some extent. Socialism isn’t the antithesis of capitalism. That doesn’t mean they are the same thing. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.Right while you forget the success of Western Europe, Japan, and South Korea. Of course you’re also too stupid to know that the US has been ALWAYS been socialist. Why? Because every government on earth is a form of socialism. Your dumbass thinks socialism is the antithesis of capitalism when it really isn’t, but that is because you’re too stupid to understand any sort of nuance."Cherry pick Venezuela"....
You shameless genocide apologetic.
How about we add Vietnam, North Korea, China, Soviet, East Germany, Biafra, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Romania to the list?. The list goes on and on and the result has always been the same - poverty, starvation, misery and genocide.
No, because you are wrong on all of that. South Korea is Socialist? What does that make North Korea? Idiotic.
This is the intellectual twisted knots you left-wingers have to do, in order to justify your idiocy. You have to call everything that is capitalist, socialist, and call everything socialist.... somehow isn't.
Of course it is. I’m sorry you are not smart enough to understand that.
The military is a means of production? Really? So those privates with their M16s and grenades, are really factory workers cranking out.... what cars? Or something? What product can I go to the store and buy from the US military, since they are a means of production in your brain dead world?
Idiot.
So you can quote it, and not even understand what you yourself just quoted?
Production or distribution and exchange......
Do tell, you bumbling fool.... what are they distributing to society? Last time I saw the military unload goods at the store was .... when? Exchange? Yeah, I don't see military exchange points along the road anywhere, in town, or out of town.
There is no "second half". It is all part of one single definition.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Production.... distrobution... exchange..... should be.... blaw blaw blaw.
The US military is a defense force. It is not a means of productions, a means of distribution, or a means of exchange.
If they were a means of production, distribution, or exchange..... they wouldn't be hiring outside contractors constantly to build, make and transport stuff, you mindless idiot.
Thomas Sowell is right. Arguing with smart people is easy. It's arguing with fools, that you have to spoon feed every single point to, that is hard.
It doesn’t matter what the military DOES. The DEFENSE BUDGET is funded and therefore owned by the community as a whole.
Out of everyone on this entire thread, you are the one that can't even define socialism properly, let alone have any intelligent idea about economics.
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