The unspoken moral dilemma of socialists

[jc456]

Govt has a role in capitalism: Prosecuting theft, coercion, enforcing contracts etc.

Where in the definition of capitalism are the words "State intervention?"

The very nature of capitalism is that it operates independently of the state.

who pays for the security to keep business and people safe?

 

[Onyx]

See....

See what?

This conversation is oh so interesting. I would just love to keep it going.

 

[owebo]

Based on your misconceived words, you appear to be conflating fascism with libertarianism.

All of you far left nut jobs do.....

 

[Onyx]

who pays for the security to keep business and people safe?

The business itself manages its own security needs.

All community members have a moral obligation to step in for those that are subjected to physical aggression against their personhood or property. The public defense is informal, yet it needs to be defined by a culture of self-reliance and good ethics.

It would help if more of society was armed, and with something other than ineffective civilian firearms nonetheless. An armed society is a civil society.

 

[Onyx]

All of you far left nut jobs do.....

Deflection.

What is the definition of fascism?

 

[owebo]

Govt has a role in capitalism: Prosecuting theft, coercion, enforcing contracts etc.

Where in the definition of capitalism are the words "State intervention?"

The very nature of capitalism is that it operates independently of the state.

who pays for the security to keep business and people safe?

Correct....true capitalism cannot exist without the field of play being protected....

 

[owebo]

who pays for the security to keep business and people safe?

The business itself manages its own security needs.

All community members have a moral obligation to step in for those that are subjected to physical aggression against their personhood or property. The public defense is informal, yet it needs to be defined by a culture of self-reliance and good ethics.

It would help if more of society was armed, and with something other than ineffective civilian firearms nonetheless. An armed society is a civil society.

So, you're telling us Apple will fight the Chinese....oh do tell...

 

[Onyx]

Correct....true capitalism cannot exist without the field of play being protected....

Then it is not true capitalism. It is socialism.

The Oxford definition even specifically points out that capitalism is a privatized economy as opposed to a state economy.

Most of modern society consists of socialists that are actively lying to themselves.

 

[Onyx]

So, you're telling us Apple will fight the Chinese....oh do tell...

No, I am not telling you that.

Corporate apple would actually be weakened in a self-reliant and self-sufficient society.

The common defense would hypothetically fight the Chinese. Try and pay attention.

 

[owebo]

All of you far left nut jobs do.....

Deflection.

What is the definition of fascism?

I would love to know your definition....

Mine is clear in my words here....

 

[owebo]

So, you're telling us Apple will fight the Chinese....oh do tell...

No, I am not telling you that.

Corporate apple would actually be weakened in a self-reliant and self-sufficient society.

The common defense would hypothetically fight the Chinese. Try and pay attention.

You mean government....

Indeed, do try to keep up....

 

[Onyx]

You mean government....

No, I do not mean government.

Trump U clearly failed to teach you anything about political science.

 

[owebo]

Correct....true capitalism cannot exist without the field of play being protected....

Then it is not true capitalism. It is socialism.

The Oxford definition even specifically points out that capitalism is a privatized economy as opposed to a state economy.

Most of modern society consists of socialists that are actively lying to themselves.

So, a private economy can exist in what place without a government?

 

[owebo]

You mean government....

No, I do not mean government.

Trump U clearly failed to teach you anything about political science.

Your on-line degree failed you long ago.....

 

[Onyx]

So, a private economy can exist in what place without a government?

With governance too, and literally anywhere.

The question is if all interactions are voluntary, because that is the distinction between freedom and the state (established government)

 

[owebo]

So, a private economy can exist in what place without a government?

With governance too, and literally anywhere.

The question is if all interactions are voluntary, because that is the distinction between freedom and the state (established government)

You mean with government.....mind your propaganda.....

 

[Little-Acorn]

The immoral dilemma Socialists face in this country, is that they are taking money from others and redistributing it in violation of the Constitution.

There's also the fact that their redistributionist schemes have NEVER worked, and always wind up making things worse for society instead of better. Yet they continue doing them. One wonders why.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The immoral dilemma Socialists face in this country, is that they are taking money from others and redistributing it in violation of the Constitution.
There's also the fact that their redistributionist schemes have NEVER worked, and always wind up making things worse for society instead of better. Yet they continue doing them. One wonders why.

Hmm, the liberals have suddenly gone very quiet.

Not hard to figure out why.

They don't want to discuss this!

 

[Onyx]

Not hard to figure out why.

They don't want to discuss this!

I personally have found it next to impossible to engage in a sustained conversation with a liberal about the immorality of taxation.

Also how liberal policies are usually backed by corporations. That is another they do not like to talk about.

 

[dblack]

Also how liberal policies are usually backed by corporations. That is another they do not like to talk about.

Yep. The go all 'Sergeant Schultz' on that one.