The way to keep burkini's off the beaches

[Mindful]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Yeah I guess I am old fashioned. Just not into ninjas. I like to see more than just eyes.

Besides these days you never know .... Could be a tranny under there....

I might hang out with the ninjas today. They frequent the expensive coffee bars.
I like looking at the designer bags, and catching the waftings of Chanel no. 5.

 

[StLucieBengal]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Yeah I guess I am old fashioned. Just not into ninjas. I like to see more than just eyes.

Besides these days you never know .... Could be a tranny under there....

I might hang out with the ninjas today. They frequent the expensive coffee bars.
I like looking at the designer bags, and catching the waftings of Chanel no. 5.

Well be careful...

 

[xband]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

I have read the term Belorussian but don't know what it means. I have drank Turkish Tea before and it gives a high that the DEA will probably label a schedule 1 drug.

 

[gtopa1]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Yummy!!!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Turkish tucker is fine but it is one bias I admit to; I loathe and despise Turks!! (OK: Ottomans precisely) but I still get angry at the mention of "Turks".

Greg

 

[xband]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Turkish tucker is fine but it is one bias I admit to; I loathe and despise Turks!! (OK: Ottomans precisely) but I still get angry at the mention of "Turks".

Greg

It is better to forget the past and move on to greater things. Stop the war and bring back Lebanese Blond Hash. THC does not make people fight.

 

[Mindful]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Turkish tucker is fine but it is one bias I admit to; I loathe and despise Turks!! (OK: Ottomans precisely) but I still get angry at the mention of "Turks".

Greg

The difference between them and Arabs is like night and day.

It's like a microcosm of cultures in a small area where I live.

 

[Mindful]

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Turkish tucker is fine but it is one bias I admit to; I loathe and despise Turks!! (OK: Ottomans precisely) but I still get angry at the mention of "Turks".

Greg

It is better to forget the past and move on to greater things. Stop the war and bring back Lebanese Blond Hash. THC does not make people fight.

We could all go down to the beach today.

 

[xband]

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Turkish tucker is fine but it is one bias I admit to; I loathe and despise Turks!! (OK: Ottomans precisely) but I still get angry at the mention of "Turks".

Greg

It is better to forget the past and move on to greater things. Stop the war and bring back Lebanese Blond Hash. THC does not make people fight.

We could all go down to the beach today.

Cookout on the beach with beer and steaks is a darn good idea on the North Shore of Oahu at night with pure white sand coral beach. I strongly advice not swimming on the Pipeline like I did with a belly full of Foster's Ale.

 

[StLucieBengal]

Don't know guys. The RIGHT burkini looks good to me.

When you grew up with women in wetsuits out sharing the waves ---- THAT ^^^^ bothers me less than some of the horrors I can't UNSEE from my beach days.

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

I have read the term Belorussian but don't know what it means. I have drank Turkish Tea before and it gives a high that the DEA will probably label a schedule 1 drug.

A Belarusian is just another word for a native of Belarus. You will also see Belorusian at times as well since it refers back to the Soviet days of Byelosrussian Soviet socialist republic. Most non belarusians will call it that ....

Belarus loosely translates into White Russia but that gets into regiona and really more than needs to be gotten into on a message board.

 

[xband]

Why a burkini when you can have a bikini??? hehe

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

I have read the term Belorussian but don't know what it means. I have drank Turkish Tea before and it gives a high that the DEA will probably label a schedule 1 drug.

A Belarusian is just another word for a native of Belarus. You will also see Belorusian at times as well since it refers back to the Soviet days of Byelosrussian Soviet socialist republic. Most non belarusians will call it that ....

Tell me about Belarus. I know that there is another Georgia over there but not much else. I spent my military time in the Far East and am hungry for knowledge of any kind.

 

[gtopa1]

Precisely because we ARE NOT those countries we can allow women to choose to wear what they want. We don't impose irrational standards on them. Why do people seem to think we should be like those countries?

Who says it's irrational? It's a matter of perspective, and culture is alI about perspective. Is preserving and protecting one's culture irrational? Is allowing a dominant minority of immigrants to refuse to adapt to the culture rational?

How many free, pluralistic and democratic countries such as France or the US mandate standards of clothing other than minimal required coverage?

How is choosing a more modest swimsuit style for ONESELF - refusing to adapt to a culture that has, up to now, imposed no standard on beachwear other than minimal coverage?

If the dominant culture prefered wearing thongs and you were highly uncomfortable wearing them - should you be forced to? Maybe in Saudi Arabia where there are no individual rights (subsitute Burka) - but in a country like the US?

This is not about clothing. As I have said, thie issue is not strictly the burkini per se. This is aobut a refusal to adapt to the culture. I have spent a lot of time in France and a have been noting the impact of the large population of Muslims there. They are mostly poor, uneducated, religious people who come to France for economic reasons. They don't embrace the culture nor do they adapt to it. They scorn French customs and perspectives. They take advantage of the freedoms (such as wearing whatever you want) and better economic conditions but do not embrace or love the country itself. That is the statement the burkini makes. The French are offended by this and quite rightly.

Then perhaps the thing to do is not to ban an article of clothing that allows these women to enjoy the beach - banning it will do nothing to encourage integration into French society and will more likely have the opposite effect, creating increased isolation and division because they won't go out.

I'll give you a parallel. In Minnesota (I think) is a significant community of Somali immigrants - refugees resettled there. Their community is in an area with many lakes and bodies of water, and drowning deaths are not uncommon. Most people know how to swim, and there are many town programs sponsoring swimming lessons. The problem is that the Somali women and girls don't know how to swim, and there had been a number of drowning deaths. Because their religion forbids them from uncovering themselves around strange men, they were not able to take part in any of these programs. The local police department together the YMCA put together an ingenious program. They set up an hour one night a week for women/girls only swimming - no men. It was open to all women and girls, in any style of swimwear, not just the Somali's. They learned how to swim, but more than that - they met new people, and made friends in the community. These people had been through a lot of trauma The girls were becoming more confident, and making new friends in school. It was a win-win for the town, for the Somali refugees and for successful integration into the community.

It wasn't all lightness and honey though - there were those who protested, who claimed it was giving in to "creeping Sharia" etc. They could have just said - screw those girls and women, if they don't want to accept our culture and swim with men and wear western style swimwear - then they can stay at home. What would that have accomplished? Better integration? Or more isolation?

It seems in France, a burkini is a means of allowing women who might otherwise not go out and mingle on a holiday beach or in the water just like any French person, a chance to do so and the more they mingle, the more they are going to learn about each other. If France has an integration problem - banning the burkini is not going to solve it.

Saving lives became a serious problem, so the local community was forced to adapt to the immigrants. But my position is that immigrants should adapt to their new country; the country they choose to live in should not have to adapt to them. When in Rome...adapt, accept, embrace your new country.

I agree for the most part. I had to wear long trousers to get into the Sistine Chapel. I was outraged(OK: meekly compliant). But I'm not allowed to wear my preferred style of clothes there!!

Greg

 

[StLucieBengal]

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

I have read the term Belorussian but don't know what it means. I have drank Turkish Tea before and it gives a high that the DEA will probably label a schedule 1 drug.

A Belarusian is just another word for a native of Belarus. You will also see Belorusian at times as well since it refers back to the Soviet days of Byelosrussian Soviet socialist republic. Most non belarusians will call it that ....

Tell me about Belarus. I know that there is another Georgia over there but not much else. I spent my military time in the Far East and am hungry for knowledge of any kind.

My wife is the native. Personally I love the history. But I am a sucker for world history from about 1880's through now. The history of the former soviet states has always fascinated me since growing up we never heard anything more than propaganda.

 

[xband]

Who says it's irrational? It's a matter of perspective, and culture is alI about perspective. Is preserving and protecting one's culture irrational? Is allowing a dominant minority of immigrants to refuse to adapt to the culture rational?

How many free, pluralistic and democratic countries such as France or the US mandate standards of clothing other than minimal required coverage?

How is choosing a more modest swimsuit style for ONESELF - refusing to adapt to a culture that has, up to now, imposed no standard on beachwear other than minimal coverage?

If the dominant culture prefered wearing thongs and you were highly uncomfortable wearing them - should you be forced to? Maybe in Saudi Arabia where there are no individual rights (subsitute Burka) - but in a country like the US?

This is not about clothing. As I have said, thie issue is not strictly the burkini per se. This is aobut a refusal to adapt to the culture. I have spent a lot of time in France and a have been noting the impact of the large population of Muslims there. They are mostly poor, uneducated, religious people who come to France for economic reasons. They don't embrace the culture nor do they adapt to it. They scorn French customs and perspectives. They take advantage of the freedoms (such as wearing whatever you want) and better economic conditions but do not embrace or love the country itself. That is the statement the burkini makes. The French are offended by this and quite rightly.

Then perhaps the thing to do is not to ban an article of clothing that allows these women to enjoy the beach - banning it will do nothing to encourage integration into French society and will more likely have the opposite effect, creating increased isolation and division because they won't go out.

I'll give you a parallel. In Minnesota (I think) is a significant community of Somali immigrants - refugees resettled there. Their community is in an area with many lakes and bodies of water, and drowning deaths are not uncommon. Most people know how to swim, and there are many town programs sponsoring swimming lessons. The problem is that the Somali women and girls don't know how to swim, and there had been a number of drowning deaths. Because their religion forbids them from uncovering themselves around strange men, they were not able to take part in any of these programs. The local police department together the YMCA put together an ingenious program. They set up an hour one night a week for women/girls only swimming - no men. It was open to all women and girls, in any style of swimwear, not just the Somali's. They learned how to swim, but more than that - they met new people, and made friends in the community. These people had been through a lot of trauma The girls were becoming more confident, and making new friends in school. It was a win-win for the town, for the Somali refugees and for successful integration into the community.

It wasn't all lightness and honey though - there were those who protested, who claimed it was giving in to "creeping Sharia" etc. They could have just said - screw those girls and women, if they don't want to accept our culture and swim with men and wear western style swimwear - then they can stay at home. What would that have accomplished? Better integration? Or more isolation?

It seems in France, a burkini is a means of allowing women who might otherwise not go out and mingle on a holiday beach or in the water just like any French person, a chance to do so and the more they mingle, the more they are going to learn about each other. If France has an integration problem - banning the burkini is not going to solve it.

Saving lives became a serious problem, so the local community was forced to adapt to the immigrants. But my position is that immigrants should adapt to their new country; the country they choose to live in should not have to adapt to them. When in Rome...adapt, accept, embrace your new country.

I agree for the most part. I had to wear long trousers to get into the Sistine Chapel. I was outraged(OK: meekly compliant). But I'm not allowed to wear my preferred style of clothes there!!

Greg

I once had more than one contract in the Pentagon. If it was an emergency call and me wearing swimming trunks is legal to gain entrance to the war room and probably could have gone in buck ass naked to fix their stupid computer.

 

[gtopa1]

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Turkish tucker is fine but it is one bias I admit to; I loathe and despise Turks!! (OK: Ottomans precisely) but I still get angry at the mention of "Turks".

Greg

It is better to forget the past and move on to greater things. Stop the war and bring back Lebanese Blond Hash. THC does not make people fight.

We could all go down to the beach today.

Cookout on the beach with beer and steaks is a darn good idea on the North Shore of Oahu at night with pure white sand coral beach. I strongly advice not swimming on the Pipeline like I did with a belly full of Foster's Ale.

Fosters?? What fool gave you that to drink??

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Yes please.

I went yesterday to my favourite Turkish cafe for a Gözleme. The woman who cooked it for me wore a head covering. Which contrasted starkly with the girl sitting by the window wearing a backless summer top. No burkhas, but the whole place was full of a contradiction in terms. My beautiful waitress, head covered, but with the most elaborately and seductively made up eyes.

But, to make the point of alluring concealment. The women whose bodies were totally covered; those garments clung to every curve.

What would any normal hot blooded male make of that?

Side note of Turkish fare. One of my mates is Turkish and it's great when we go over to his house everytime the food is wonderful. Plus he always has amazing tea.

What's funny is that they love to come over to our house for the Belorussian fare.

Turkish tucker is fine but it is one bias I admit to; I loathe and despise Turks!! (OK: Ottomans precisely) but I still get angry at the mention of "Turks".

Greg

It is better to forget the past and move on to greater things. Stop the war and bring back Lebanese Blond Hash. THC does not make people fight.

We could all go down to the beach today.

I'm heading down the Coast on Sunday( Father's Day) with my two sons. The six girls have been invited but they decided against it...en bloc. We'll visit Dad and Grandad(graves) then ride from Southport to Coolangatta and back(length of the Gold Coast). Spring is here!!! Dunno if we'll get in a Barbie though. But a swim at Surfers Paradise is very much on the cards. No hash please; we're Aussies.

Greg

 

[Alex.]

"‘I am commanded by Allah to be modest’

I enjoy wearing the burkini. As a Muslim woman I am encouraged by the Qur’an not to wear the same as non-Muslims and to remain identifiably Muslim at all times. Anyone who says otherwise is either putting their love of the dunya (or their culture first. As a Muslim, we believe this world is a temporary pleasure trap. It will seduce you from your akhira (our rewards in the afterlife). I am also commanded by Allah to be modest (hayaa) and observe hijab at all times. So I am covered up from legs to neck and my lower arms are on display when there are women or family members present. I’m white British, and a revert Muslim. "

Why we wear the burkini: five women on dressing modestly at the beach

Such is the life of someone who follows their faith.

They are not commanded by Allah to wear the burkini, the abaya, the hijab, etc.

According to the woman who wears it she is commanded as such.

 

[Esmeralda]

"‘I am commanded by Allah to be modest’

I enjoy wearing the burkini. As a Muslim woman I am encouraged by the Qur’an not to wear the same as non-Muslims and to remain identifiably Muslim at all times. Anyone who says otherwise is either putting their love of the dunya (or their culture first. As a Muslim, we believe this world is a temporary pleasure trap. It will seduce you from your akhira (our rewards in the afterlife). I am also commanded by Allah to be modest (hayaa) and observe hijab at all times. So I am covered up from legs to neck and my lower arms are on display when there are women or family members present. I’m white British, and a revert Muslim. "

Why we wear the burkini: five women on dressing modestly at the beach

Such is the life of someone who follows their faith.

They are not commanded by Allah to wear the burkini, the abaya, the hijab, etc.

According to the woman who wears it she is commanded as such.

That's her interpretation. There are Muslin women all over the world who do not cover. The Koran does not say to cover head to toe. It says to dress modestly.

 

[ChrisL]

Women should be able to wear what they want at the beach. As long as they aren't hurting anyone else, it doesn't matter.

Some of these women will not wear a bikini because it would go against their religious convictions. Whether or not YOU feel that they were brainwashed into this mindset is rather irrelevant because, while I don't doubt that might be the case in many instances, it is certainly not the case in all instances because there are some women have converted to the Muslim religion of their own free will.

To go onto a beach and to FORCE them to expose more skin than they feel comfortable exposing is just wrong! That is not any better than the men who would FORCE them to cover up!

 

[Coyote]

Women should be able to wear what they want at the beach. As long as they aren't hurting anyone else, it doesn't matter.

Some of these women will not wear a bikini because it would go against their religious convictions. Whether or not YOU feel that they were brainwashed into this mindset is rather irrelevant because, while I don't doubt that might be the case in many instances, it is certainly not the case in all instances because there are some women have converted to the Muslim religion of their own free will.

To go onto a beach and to FORCE them to expose more skin than they feel comfortable exposing is just wrong! That is not any better than the men who would FORCE them to cover up!

That's basically how I feel. There are standards in every country for the minimum amount of clothing required and I don't see an issue with that - you just adjust to that country. But forcing a woman to expose MORE than she is comfortable with crosses a line imo - unless there is a good reason for it - security reasons or safety or ability to perform job. IMO - there isn't much difference between forcing a woman to cover up and forcing a woman to uncover.