The Worst President in history has been reelected

[expatriate]

this thread has devolved into some combination of determining how many angels can dance on the head of a pin while simultaneously playing Twister in your bobby socks.

Barack Obama won. He can claim a victory. He can claim a mandate. Republicans can disagree with him on both claims, but what is absolutely true is that THEY can claim neither a victory NOR a mandate.

Our guy won. Your guy lost. Better luck next time.

 

[rightwinger]

Because he won an election that means his policies are succeeding ? No, it doesn't.

What we know is not succeeding is the Republican propaganda machine screaming FAIL after every Obama initiative, or claiming that Obama is the worst president in history or claiming that Obama is a socialist or claiming that most of the voters are stupid and only conservatives know the answer or claiming that tax cuts are the answer to every problem

How did that work out for you?

I have no vested interested in seeing Republicans or Democrats in power. In the scale of their policies, they are both right of center and more authoritarian than libertarian. Both of there policies will and are failing. You are trying to make a connection that says because Obama won his policies work. That is false. He won because he got more sheeple to vote for him than the other guy. Votes determine the best liar not the better policy. People voted for Hitler once too I guess his policies were the shiznittlebam

Libertarian.......

Like THAT is going to happen

 

[rightwinger]

Stop trying to change the subject righty. Explain to me with some objectively reasonable evidence that everyone that didn't vote who could all would have voted for Obama if they had voted as you claimed.

Its kind of like your reasoning that those who did not vote cannot be counted as supporting Obama

We can only assume that only an idiot who opposed the job that Obama did in his first term would be foolish enough not to go to the polls and vote him out of office. The only logical assumption is that EVERY person who was against Obama went and voted to get rid of him.
Therefore the only logical conclusion is that ALL 120 million people who did not vote would have voted for Obama.

That makes Obamas final numbers

Obama 180 million supporters
Romney 60 million supporters

75% of Americans supported Obama in the last election

Sorry. Your 'logic' is an utter failure and you're contradicting yourself AND your lieing about what I said. Your first assumption is simply not reasonable or logical. There could be all kinds of reasons thoss 120 million didn't vote. They were apathetic, they were busy, etc. But it simply isn't rationale to claim that if you asked all 120 million of them who they would have voted for that every last one of them would say Obama. Hell I almost didnt' vote this year cause as much as I believe Obama is the worst President ever, I'm no huge fan of these status quo replucian candidates either. You have no basis for your 75% other than your horribly flawed assumptions, you know how ridiculous a statement that is and so does everyone else. As usual you simply lack the integrity to admit when your wrong. Secondly you can't have it both ways. You claimed the people that don't vote, don't count. Now you are counting them because it's convenient for you.

Of course it is logical

Try this....2+2= 4

Anyone who didn't vote is OBVIOUSLY satisfied with the way things are. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Obama had 75% support of the people. Is simple MATH that hard for you?

 

[Neotrotsky]

What we know is not succeeding is the Republican propaganda machine screaming FAIL after every Obama initiative, or claiming that Obama is the worst president in history or claiming that Obama is a socialist or claiming that most of the voters are stupid and only conservatives know the answer or claiming that tax cuts are the answer to every problem

How did that work out for you?

Considering that the people also kept the House in Republican
hands to stop/slow up the Left's radical plans
Not bad

After all, if they wanted to kick them out, it would be easy
They did it to the Left in 2010

We the People were gerrymandered into Congressional Districts that ensure Republican control of the House....Got it

The biggest turnover in 2010 for the House for any sitting President in 70+ years was all
due to gerrymandering...
Most would just call it a good thumping
whatever helps you sleep at night

 

[Neotrotsky]

Its kind of like your reasoning that those who did not vote cannot be counted as supporting Obama

We can only assume that only an idiot who opposed the job that Obama did in his first term would be foolish enough not to go to the polls and vote him out of office. The only logical assumption is that EVERY person who was against Obama went and voted to get rid of him.
Therefore the only logical conclusion is that ALL 120 million people who did not vote would have voted for Obama.

That makes Obamas final numbers

Obama 180 million supporters
Romney 60 million supporters

75% of Americans supported Obama in the last election

Sorry. Your 'logic' is an utter failure and you're contradicting yourself AND your lieing about what I said. Your first assumption is simply not reasonable or logical. There could be all kinds of reasons thoss 120 million didn't vote. They were apathetic, they were busy, etc. But it simply isn't rationale to claim that if you asked all 120 million of them who they would have voted for that every last one of them would say Obama. Hell I almost didnt' vote this year cause as much as I believe Obama is the worst President ever, I'm no huge fan of these status quo replucian candidates either. You have no basis for your 75% other than your horribly flawed assumptions, you know how ridiculous a statement that is and so does everyone else. As usual you simply lack the integrity to admit when your wrong. Secondly you can't have it both ways. You claimed the people that don't vote, don't count. Now you are counting them because it's convenient for you.

Of course it is logical

Try this....2+2= 4

Anyone who didn't vote is OBVIOUSLY satisfied with the way things are. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Obama had 75% support of the people. Is simple MATH that hard for you?

Speaking of math
tell us how the Left thinks Papa Obama has spent less
than any other President

 

[Bern80]

Its kind of like your reasoning that those who did not vote cannot be counted as supporting Obama

We can only assume that only an idiot who opposed the job that Obama did in his first term would be foolish enough not to go to the polls and vote him out of office. The only logical assumption is that EVERY person who was against Obama went and voted to get rid of him.
Therefore the only logical conclusion is that ALL 120 million people who did not vote would have voted for Obama.

That makes Obamas final numbers

Obama 180 million supporters
Romney 60 million supporters

75% of Americans supported Obama in the last election

Sorry. Your 'logic' is an utter failure and you're contradicting yourself AND your lieing about what I said. Your first assumption is simply not reasonable or logical. There could be all kinds of reasons thoss 120 million didn't vote. They were apathetic, they were busy, etc. But it simply isn't rationale to claim that if you asked all 120 million of them who they would have voted for that every last one of them would say Obama. Hell I almost didnt' vote this year cause as much as I believe Obama is the worst President ever, I'm no huge fan of these status quo replucian candidates either. You have no basis for your 75% other than your horribly flawed assumptions, you know how ridiculous a statement that is and so does everyone else. As usual you simply lack the integrity to admit when your wrong. Secondly you can't have it both ways. You claimed the people that don't vote, don't count. Now you are counting them because it's convenient for you.

Of course it is logical

Try this....2+2= 4

Anyone who didn't vote is OBVIOUSLY satisfied with the way things are. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Obama had 75% support of the people. Is simple MATH that hard for you?

Why is it so hard for you to understand that what you claim is obvious is not only not obvious, it's not even reasonable. It doesn't pass a basic logical test. You claim they all didn't vote because they all were happy with the way things were. If that's the case it makes the most logical sense for them to engage in a behavior that ensured things stay that way. In other words, VOTE. They did not vote. In fact, of the many inferences that could be made, yours is one that we can pretty much rule out entirly because not even one person behaved in a way that would be most logical given your assumption (that they were happy with the way things were).

 

[DiamondDave]

Its kind of like your reasoning that those who did not vote cannot be counted as supporting Obama

We can only assume that only an idiot who opposed the job that Obama did in his first term would be foolish enough not to go to the polls and vote him out of office. The only logical assumption is that EVERY person who was against Obama went and voted to get rid of him.
Therefore the only logical conclusion is that ALL 120 million people who did not vote would have voted for Obama.

That makes Obamas final numbers

Obama 180 million supporters
Romney 60 million supporters

75% of Americans supported Obama in the last election

Sorry. Your 'logic' is an utter failure and you're contradicting yourself AND your lieing about what I said. Your first assumption is simply not reasonable or logical. There could be all kinds of reasons thoss 120 million didn't vote. They were apathetic, they were busy, etc. But it simply isn't rationale to claim that if you asked all 120 million of them who they would have voted for that every last one of them would say Obama. Hell I almost didnt' vote this year cause as much as I believe Obama is the worst President ever, I'm no huge fan of these status quo replucian candidates either. You have no basis for your 75% other than your horribly flawed assumptions, you know how ridiculous a statement that is and so does everyone else. As usual you simply lack the integrity to admit when your wrong. Secondly you can't have it both ways. You claimed the people that don't vote, don't count. Now you are counting them because it's convenient for you.

Of course it is logical

Try this....2+2= 4

Anyone who didn't vote is OBVIOUSLY satisfied with the way things are. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Obama had 75% support of the people. Is simple MATH that hard for you?

You have spewed plenty of stupid shit... but this probably takes the cake

 

[daveman]

While your "analysis" is lacking, simplistic and just a boring repeat of talking points

the fact of the matter

the failure of leftist polices, should be enough
After all, somebody has to pay for the failures of the left
we can't all be leftist and/or their dependent subordinates

Union kills 18,000 jobs

Ummmmm.....hate to break it to you

But the "Obama must fail" strategy failed big time

Not really -- it just wasn't needed. Obama's failed all on his own.

 

[daveman]

While your "analysis" is lacking, simplistic and just a boring repeat of talking points

the fact of the matter

the failure of leftist polices, should be enough
After all, somebody has to pay for the failures of the left
we can't all be leftist and/or their dependent subordinates

Union kills 18,000 jobs

Ummmmm.....hate to break it to you

But the "Obama must fail" strategy failed big time

Not really...
In Papa Obama’s case, to hide their effects and help in securing reelection,
he has back loaded most of his controversial changes into a second term.

Papa Obama’s next term will start to see the effects of his 'bag of goods'....
health-care reform, Dodd-Frank, etc
....barely known to the public

Indeed, one should always be careful what they wish for....


No doubt- we see more "glorification" of him by the left

Leftist regimes tend to do/seek more glorification
of their leaders as life worsens under them in order to prop them up.

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[daveman]

What we know is not succeeding is the Republican propaganda machine screaming FAIL after every Obama initiative, or claiming that Obama is the worst president in history or claiming that Obama is a socialist or claiming that most of the voters are stupid and only conservatives know the answer or claiming that tax cuts are the answer to every problem

How did that work out for you?

Considering that the people also kept the House in Republican
hands to stop/slow up the Left's radical plans
Not bad

After all, if they wanted to kick them out, it would be easy
They did it to the Left in 2010

We the People were gerrymandered into Congressional Districts that ensure Republican control of the House....Got it

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

 

[daveman]

Anyone who didn't vote is OBVIOUSLY satisfied with the way things are.

Wait -- I thought they didn't vote due to GOP voter suppression.

Maybe you should pick a conspiracy theory and stick to it.

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry. Your 'logic' is an utter failure and you're contradicting yourself AND your lieing about what I said. Your first assumption is simply not reasonable or logical. There could be all kinds of reasons thoss 120 million didn't vote. They were apathetic, they were busy, etc. But it simply isn't rationale to claim that if you asked all 120 million of them who they would have voted for that every last one of them would say Obama. Hell I almost didnt' vote this year cause as much as I believe Obama is the worst President ever, I'm no huge fan of these status quo replucian candidates either. You have no basis for your 75% other than your horribly flawed assumptions, you know how ridiculous a statement that is and so does everyone else. As usual you simply lack the integrity to admit when your wrong. Secondly you can't have it both ways. You claimed the people that don't vote, don't count. Now you are counting them because it's convenient for you.

Of course it is logical

Try this....2+2= 4

Anyone who didn't vote is OBVIOUSLY satisfied with the way things are. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Obama had 75% support of the people. Is simple MATH that hard for you?

Why is it so hard for you to understand that what you claim is obvious is not only not obvious, it's not even reasonable. It doesn't pass a basic logical test. You claim they all didn't vote because they all were happy with the way things were. If that's the case it makes the most logical sense for them to engage in a behavior that ensured things stay that way. In other words, VOTE. They did not vote. In fact, of the many inferences that could be made, yours is one that we can pretty much rule out entirly because not even one person behaved in a way that would be most logical given your assumption (that they were happy with the way things were).

I will admit you are somewhat correct. Obama would not have gotten 100% of the vote. Romney would have gotten his one percent.......that is who he campaigned for

That leaves Obama with 74% of the vote

 

[rightwinger]

Considering that the people also kept the House in Republican
hands to stop/slow up the Left's radical plans
Not bad

After all, if they wanted to kick them out, it would be easy
They did it to the Left in 2010

We the People were gerrymandered into Congressional Districts that ensure Republican control of the House....Got it

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

You are one clueless hack

How else could Republicans win the House with a smaller percentage of the popular vote?

 

[daveman]

We the People were gerrymandered into Congressional Districts that ensure Republican control of the House....Got it

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

You are one clueless hack

How else could Republicans win the House with a smaller percentage of the popular vote?

Leftists SUCK at logic.

So, no proof. All you've got is butthurt.

Just like every other day.

 

[rightwinger]

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

You are one clueless hack

How else could Republicans win the House with a smaller percentage of the popular vote?

Leftists SUCK at logic.

So, no proof. All you've got is butthurt.

Just like every other day.

How else can TeaTards win?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Considering that the people also kept the House in Republican
hands to stop/slow up the Left's radical plans
Not bad

After all, if they wanted to kick them out, it would be easy
They did it to the Left in 2010

We the People were gerrymandered into Congressional Districts that ensure Republican control of the House....Got it

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

The above prior post means
he has no proof

 

[daveman]

You are one clueless hack

How else could Republicans win the House with a smaller percentage of the popular vote?

Leftists SUCK at logic.

So, no proof. All you've got is butthurt.

Just like every other day.

How else can TeaTards win?

People voting for them.

Dumbass.

 

[rightwinger]

We the People were gerrymandered into Congressional Districts that ensure Republican control of the House....Got it

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

The above prior post means
he has no proof

Florida Election Results 2012: Obama Wins, But Gerrymandering Helped GOP Keep the House

 

[daveman]

We the People were gerrymandered into Congressional Districts that ensure Republican control of the House....Got it

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

The above prior post means
he has no proof

Rightwinger, like most leftists/progs, "thinks" (generous use of the term, I know) that if they believe something, it's true.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Interesting theory. Horseshit, but interesting. Got any proof that most House districts up this time were gerrymandered to favor the incumbents?

No?

Well, then.

The above prior post means
he has no proof

Rightwinger, like most leftists/progs, "thinks" (generous use of the term, I know) that if they believe something, it's true.

Indeed

Geoffrey R. Stone- a regular contributor to the Huff and Puff
and to quote him from one of his articles...

" As a liberal, I find that appalling. In that light, I thought it might be interesting to try to articulate ten propositions that seem to me to define "liberal" today. "

Get an idea of what a radical leftist this guy is,,,

The Boy Scouts, Gays and Parental Responsibility
Guess what kind of boy scouts he wants to send his kids to ...?

'The Broccoli Horrible': Ginsburg Shreds Roberts
This "constitutional lawyer" finds that the commerce clause should have held in Papa Obama care....