There will be no unity until Trump's seditionists are no more.

[BWK]

Attack the person, not the argument. What a coward you are.

Didn't you just attack the person by calling them a coward?
Yes, you did.

Yes, because there was no argument.

 

[Lastamender]

There will be no unity with seditionists.

Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.

Are you so cynical as to think all our political is reduced to extremes? Can you accept that most Americans prefer a centrist approach, not seditious "proud Boys" racism or anti--fan radical anarchy?

Biden inclusiveness not Trump nationalism.

Seditionists don't care about democracy. Most Americans do.

With friends like seditionists, why are you afraid of AOC? Which one poses the greater threat to democracy?

If you think dems are centrist you're an idiot.

If you think 75,000,000 votes were cast in support of one narrow political ideology, or that Democrats don' contain a variety of political thought and faction, you are either not paying attention or have succumbed to prropagandistic brainwashing.

Such ossified thinking cannot offer solutions and shouldn't weigh in on the momentous problems we face today. In fact, such thiinking lays squarely at the center of our problems.


Do I you know what makes this huge, diverse nation so great? Our mastery at the art of political compromise. One party rule has never, and will.never.serve a form of government of, by and for free people.

Fuck compromising with commies!!!
And your spelling is atrocious.

And your lies are disgusting. What commies? Do you even know what a communist is?

Absolutely....biden is the epitome of a commie.
After all,the CCP owns him.

Hate to break it to you but over 80 million people didn't believe you. And now, through misdeeds and isurrection attempt, it appears that the GOP, as it stands now, is in the process of being defunded. After all the defunding that you clowns attempted (and in some cases were successful) I think karma is here to bite your in the ass.

I dont think things are going to turn out like you think.

Probably a lot closer that what the anarchist wannabes are thinking. Might be harder to even maintain propaganda levels necessary to keep the right wing sheep indoctrinated with lies, as conspiracy and false stories even about election fraud have dropped 73% since the twitter and facebook bans went into effect by one report.

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban | Business Insider India

Trump blasted out baseless claims of election fraud before and after losing the fight to President-elect Joe Biden.

www.businessinsider.in

Why would you believe the MSM about anything?

Are you proving they are lying with documentation? No! Who should we believe with documentation? It sure as hell isn't you.

Then give us the documents from the SOS's in the swing states that are being held back. And what do I need to document. They claimed Trump was a Russian asset for 3 years. Unless you have the memory of a goldfish I do not need any documentation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Oh noZe! No unity says the left....After watching their actions for four years I am shocked I tell you, just shocked that they are not advocating some good old Kumbaya time.

Lol. What a joke.

Glad you're laughing. Those five dead people are not. You were saying what again about unity?

How about hundreds dead or beaten, and building's burnt, police stations attacked, capitals broken into, anarchy in the streets, good citizen's threatened, and no go zones are created while we hear the Democrat (CRICKETS) ???

You don't have a leg to stand on bud....

Sure I do. I already posted on this forum what the proud boy skinheads were doing. They were mostly responsible for inciting violence and riots while trying to instigate peaceful protests.

Seattle and Portland didn’t need anyone but Antifa for the riots and CHOP was proof of that. Other cities were in the same category. I’m not saying the right didn’t instigate anything however Antifa lit the fuse in many cites, St. Louis was a BLM riot that took the life of a former black police chief.

ANTIFA is an idea of anti-fascism. It is not any organization. Do you support Fascism?

ANTIFA is an idea of anti-fascism. It is not any organization.

Retarded argument with no proof. No surprises there.

ANTIFA is an idea of anti-fascism. It is not any organization. Retarded argument with no proof. That's your argument retard. Now make it true.

You're funny, for a retard.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Open a new browser, type antifa.com in the address bar, hit enter and watch what happens.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The future looks long and dismal since it will probably be another 70-80 years before the last Trump supporters take their last breath or forget the way he was mistreated these last four years.

Fuck off noob.

Wow, are we having a bad night or what? Got those losing blues huh? Between your racism and those losing blues, you're going to be one sour Toadie for the next four years eh?

Good God can y’all present one argument without trying to use the race card. Actually I was just say people don’t forget bad behavior easily.

I didn't play the race card, the other poster brought it into the debate. He usually does. Just keep up with his posts in the future. You'll see.

Says one of the biggest racist on USMB.

For either side of the argument it is not very flattering or productive. Until we learn to have a civil conversation America will remain on the brink of destruction. How can you build a nation when you are tearing down your fellow countrymen. Both sides need to stop being the victim and accept you and only you command your future. This country is big enough for the two of you.

There's no working with the dem party of today.
I remember the days when the dems and repubs could work together they just had a different way to reach the same goal.
Now the goals are at opposite spectrums....socialism vs Conservatism.
I see no way we can work together.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Oh noZe! No unity says the left....After watching their actions for four years I am shocked I tell you, just shocked that they are not advocating some good old Kumbaya time.

Lol. What a joke.

Glad you're laughing. Those five dead people are not. You were saying what again about unity?

How about hundreds dead or beaten, and building's burnt, police stations attacked, capitals broken into, anarchy in the streets, good citizen's threatened, and no go zones are created while we hear the Democrat (CRICKETS) ???

You don't have a leg to stand on bud....

Sure I do. I already posted on this forum what the proud boy skinheads were doing. They were mostly responsible for inciting violence and riots while trying to instigate peaceful protests.

Seattle and Portland didn’t need anyone but Antifa for the riots and CHOP was proof of that. Other cities were in the same category. I’m not saying the right didn’t instigate anything however Antifa lit the fuse in many cites, St. Louis was a BLM riot that took the life of a former black police chief.

ANTIFA is an idea of anti-fascism. It is not any organization. Do you support Fascism?

ANTIFA is an organized group looting, burning and stealing.

You're a liar. Who is their leader? Where is their main office? Who finances them? Can't answer? Neither can I. At least I'm not a liar like you.

No, you are indeed a liar, worse yet you are a willing obtuse liar. Want to see something fascinating liar?
Open a new browser, go up to the address bar and type in antifa.com then hit enter. Go ahead, do it.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The future looks long and dismal since it will probably be another 70-80 years before the last Trump supporters take their last breath or forget the way he was mistreated these last four years.

Fuck off noob.

Wow, are we having a bad night or what? Got those losing blues huh? Between your racism and those losing blues, you're going to be one sour Toadie for the next four years eh?

Good God can y’all present one argument without trying to use the race card. Actually I was just say people don’t forget bad behavior easily.

I didn't play the race card, the other poster brought it into the debate. He usually does. Just keep up with his posts in the future. You'll see.

Says one of the biggest racist on USMB.

Yea? Quote one of my posts proving I'm racist. You can't. Of course you are a liar.

You''re right up there with Asslips.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Everyone pretty much knows this will come to a knock down drag out bloody street fight. When will it start and what will be the spark?

 

[Lastamender]

The Democrat Reign of Terror Begins

The Democrat Reign of Terror Begins, The Burning of the Reichstag (1934) or Rioting in our Capitol - Big Problem, riots, Hitler's National Socialism

canadafreepress.com

Mark Twain once said “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.”

The Democrats and the Far Left are using the Reichstag Fire of 1933 as their model to limit or curtail our liberties. They have no intention of creating unity with the Right, only demanding surrender, the end of a two-party system.

In 1933, the Reichstag, home of the German parliament in Berlin, was the subject of an arson attack. A German court found that a Dutch communist was responsible, although it still remains a mystery. Some theorize that Hitler’s Brown Shirts were responsible or at least had a hand in it. In any case, the Nazi Party used the incident as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the government and were planning a violent uprising. Hitler urged President von Hindenburg to pursue a ‘ruthless confrontation’ with the Communist Party of Germany. It spelled the end of the Weimar Republic’s democracy and the beginning of Hitler’s National Socialism.

What to look forward to?

 

[Nostra]

Oh noZe! No unity says the left....After watching their actions for four years I am shocked I tell you, just shocked that they are not advocating some good old Kumbaya time.

Lol. What a joke.

Glad you're laughing. Those five dead people are not. You were saying what again about unity?

How about hundreds dead or beaten, and building's burnt, police stations attacked, capitals broken into, anarchy in the streets, good citizen's threatened, and no go zones are created while we hear the Democrat (CRICKETS) ???

You don't have a leg to stand on bud....

Sure I do. I already posted on this forum what the proud boy skinheads were doing. They were mostly responsible for inciting violence and riots while trying to instigate peaceful protests.

Seattle and Portland didn’t need anyone but Antifa for the riots and CHOP was proof of that. Other cities were in the same category. I’m not saying the right didn’t instigate anything however Antifa lit the fuse in many cites, St. Louis was a BLM riot that took the life of a former black police chief.

ANTIFA is an idea of anti-fascism. It is not any organization. Do you support Fascism?

Antifa IS Fascists.

OMG!

Once again you are unable to dispute my facts.

Typical racist Dimwinger.

 

[Papageorgio]

Oh noZe! No unity says the left....After watching their actions for four years I am shocked I tell you, just shocked that they are not advocating some good old Kumbaya time.

Lol. What a joke.

Glad you're laughing. Those five dead people are not. You were saying what again about unity?

How about hundreds dead or beaten, and building's burnt, police stations attacked, capitals broken into, anarchy in the streets, good citizen's threatened, and no go zones are created while we hear the Democrat (CRICKETS) ???

You don't have a leg to stand on bud....

Sure I do. I already posted on this forum what the proud boy skinheads were doing. They were mostly responsible for inciting violence and riots while trying to instigate peaceful protests.

Seattle and Portland didn’t need anyone but Antifa for the riots and CHOP was proof of that. Other cities were in the same category. I’m not saying the right didn’t instigate anything however Antifa lit the fuse in many cites, St. Louis was a BLM riot that took the life of a former black police chief.

ANTIFA is an idea of anti-fascism. It is not any organization. Do you support Fascism?

Antifa and their tactics are the only pro-fascist group I know of and I don’t support fascism or them.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The future looks long and dismal since it will probably be another 70-80 years before the last Trump supporters take their last breath or forget the way he was mistreated these last four years.

Fuck off noob.

Wow, are we having a bad night or what? Got those losing blues huh? Between your racism and those losing blues, you're going to be one sour Toadie for the next four years eh?

Good God can y’all present one argument without trying to use the race card. Actually I was just say people don’t forget bad behavior easily.

I didn't play the race card, the other poster brought it into the debate. He usually does. Just keep up with his posts in the future. You'll see.

Says one of the biggest racist on USMB.

For either side of the argument it is not very flattering or productive. Until we learn to have a civil conversation America will remain on the brink of destruction. How can you build a nation when you are tearing down your fellow countrymen. Both sides need to stop being the victim and accept you and only you command your future. This country is big enough for the two of you.

There's no working with the dem party of today.
I remember the days when the dems and repubs could work together they just had a different way to reach the same goal.
Now the goals are at opposite spectrums....socialism vs Conservatism.
I see no way we can work together.

Maybe not today but we need to learn to be civil no matter how much we disagree. If we look at life strictly through the party lens then we are doomed. We both have to breathe we both need to nurture our families we both need to eat. Bottom line we are the same. We just need to learn what we agree on and learn to disagree without insults.

 

[White 6]

There will be no unity with seditionists.

Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.

Are you so cynical as to think all our political is reduced to extremes? Can you accept that most Americans prefer a centrist approach, not seditious "proud Boys" racism or anti--fan radical anarchy?

Biden inclusiveness not Trump nationalism.

Seditionists don't care about democracy. Most Americans do.

With friends like seditionists, why are you afraid of AOC? Which one poses the greater threat to democracy?

If you think dems are centrist you're an idiot.

If you think 75,000,000 votes were cast in support of one narrow political ideology, or that Democrats don' contain a variety of political thought and faction, you are either not paying attention or have succumbed to prropagandistic brainwashing.

Such ossified thinking cannot offer solutions and shouldn't weigh in on the momentous problems we face today. In fact, such thiinking lays squarely at the center of our problems.


Do I you know what makes this huge, diverse nation so great? Our mastery at the art of political compromise. One party rule has never, and will.never.serve a form of government of, by and for free people.

Fuck compromising with commies!!!
And your spelling is atrocious.

And your lies are disgusting. What commies? Do you even know what a communist is?

Absolutely....biden is the epitome of a commie.
After all,the CCP owns him.

Hate to break it to you but over 80 million people didn't believe you. And now, through misdeeds and isurrection attempt, it appears that the GOP, as it stands now, is in the process of being defunded. After all the defunding that you clowns attempted (and in some cases were successful) I think karma is here to bite your in the ass.

I dont think things are going to turn out like you think.

Probably a lot closer that what the anarchist wannabes are thinking. Might be harder to even maintain propaganda levels necessary to keep the right wing sheep indoctrinated with lies, as conspiracy and false stories even about election fraud have dropped 73% since the twitter and facebook bans went into effect by one report.

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban | Business Insider India

Trump blasted out baseless claims of election fraud before and after losing the fight to President-elect Joe Biden.

www.businessinsider.in

Why would you believe the MSM about anything?

Saw it live, in color. Seen the vids of the protestors smiling for their own cameras, you know, reality. Reality isn't for interpretation. It is not handed down or decided from above. Not about how you feel about it inside, or what others describe it to be. Reality is real, in and of itself. Try Lenard Piekhoff lecturing live at the Fordham on Objectivist Philosophy if you can find a copy.

Correct that reality is not open for interpretation.
But the obvious reality is the protestors WERE NON-VIOLENT.
They were not shooting people.
The people who were indiscriminately shooting and killing people, WERE the POLICE.
With the demonstrators, I only saw some petty misdemeanors like vandalism.
From the police I saw deliberate murder of people not involved in any criminal acts at all.
That is the objective reality, and there is no way to alter that fact.

Don't be silly. Barricades were breached. Doors were forced open, sometimes with security being forced back by overwhelming numbers and beating of some of the security in the process, including on Capital Police officer that later died. Glass was broken out and insurrectionists (urged to go to the Capital by trump) attempted to climb past, as where the woman was shot in the attempt. Do not attempt to minimized and describe reality as it was live cast. Reality is Real.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

Oh noZe! No unity says the left....After watching their actions for four years I am shocked I tell you, just shocked that they are not advocating some good old Kumbaya time.

Lol. What a joke.

Glad you're laughing. Those five dead people are not. You were saying what again about unity?

How about hundreds dead or beaten, and building's burnt, police stations attacked, capitals broken into, anarchy in the streets, good citizen's threatened, and no go zones are created while we hear the Democrat (CRICKETS) ???

You don't have a leg to stand on bud....

Sure I do. I already posted on this forum what the proud boy skinheads were doing. They were mostly responsible for inciting violence and riots while trying to instigate peaceful protests.

Seattle and Portland didn’t need anyone but Antifa for the riots and CHOP was proof of that. Other cities were in the same category. I’m not saying the right didn’t instigate anything however Antifa lit the fuse in many cites, St. Louis was a BLM riot that took the life of a former black police chief.

ANTIFA is an idea of anti-fascism. It is not any organization. Do you support Fascism?

An idea beat up Andy Ngo so are you saying we need thought police to control this angry idea.

 

[Bryan Luhning]

There will be no unity with seditionists.

Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.

Are you so cynical as to think all our political is reduced to extremes? Can you accept that most Americans prefer a centrist approach, not seditious "proud Boys" racism or anti--fan radical anarchy?

Biden inclusiveness not Trump nationalism.

Seditionists don't care about democracy. Most Americans do.

With friends like seditionists, why are you afraid of AOC? Which one poses the greater threat to democracy?

If you think dems are centrist you're an idiot.

If you think 75,000,000 votes were cast in support of one narrow political ideology, or that Democrats don' contain a variety of political thought and faction, you are either not paying attention or have succumbed to prropagandistic brainwashing.

Such ossified thinking cannot offer solutions and shouldn't weigh in on the momentous problems we face today. In fact, such thiinking lays squarely at the center of our problems.


Do I you know what makes this huge, diverse nation so great? Our mastery at the art of political compromise. One party rule has never, and will.never.serve a form of government of, by and for free people.

Fuck compromising with commies!!!
And your spelling is atrocious.

And your lies are disgusting. What commies? Do you even know what a communist is?

Absolutely....biden is the epitome of a commie.
After all,the CCP owns him.

Hate to break it to you but over 80 million people didn't believe you. And now, through misdeeds and isurrection attempt, it appears that the GOP, as it stands now, is in the process of being defunded. After all the defunding that you clowns attempted (and in some cases were successful) I think karma is here to bite your in the ass.

I dont think things are going to turn out like you think.

Probably a lot closer that what the anarchist wannabes are thinking. Might be harder to even maintain propaganda levels necessary to keep the right wing sheep indoctrinated with lies, as conspiracy and false stories even about election fraud have dropped 73% since the twitter and facebook bans went into effect by one report.

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban | Business Insider India

Trump blasted out baseless claims of election fraud before and after losing the fight to President-elect Joe Biden.

www.businessinsider.in

Why would you believe the MSM about anything?

Saw it live, in color. Seen the vids of the protestors smiling for their own cameras, you know, reality. Reality isn't for interpretation. It is not handed down or decided from above. Not about how you feel about it inside, or what others describe it to be. Reality is real, in and of itself. Try Lenard Piekhoff lecturing live at the Fordham on Objectivist Philosophy if you can find a copy.

Correct that reality is not open for interpretation.
But the obvious reality is the protestors WERE NON-VIOLENT.
They were not shooting people.
The people who were indiscriminately shooting and killing people, WERE the POLICE.
With the demonstrators, I only saw some petty misdemeanors like vandalism.
From the police I saw deliberate murder of people not involved in any criminal acts at all.
That is the objective reality, and there is no way to alter that fact.

Don't be silly. Barricades were breached. Doors were forced open, sometimes with security being forced back by overwhelming numbers and beating of some of the security in the process, including on Capital Police officer that later died. Glass was broken out and insurrectionists (urged to go to the Capital by trump) attempted to climb past, as where the woman was shot in the attempt. Do not attempt to minimized and describe reality as it was live cast. Reality is Real.

Reality is real, motivation has yet to be shown. So far it looks like a smattering of both sides. This is now a case for the authorities and the courts. Obviously the court of popular opinion is deadlock and a new jury is required.

 

[gipper]

There were no innocent trump mob people that broke into the capital. If somebody broke into my house in Tennessee and were coming through the window, it is totally legal in Tennessee to defend with deadly force. Crime is a dangerous hobby, activity or profession, no matter what you think justifies it. It doesn't justify and can get people killed. I can't recommend it. Use your best judgement, if you have any left, rattling around in there.

This last summer the left was in favor of Protesters breaking into the federal ICE building in Portland and wanted the feds to back down. It is a public building, not a private residence. There would be no reason to come to your private residence to protest. Sit ins used o be quite common at colleges, would the police been justified by mowing them all down? Would you have supported the police mowing down protesters/rioters at the Portland ICE building? Would the people in Seattle that had their offices and residences broke into and occupied by CHOP been justified in shooting those people? Should the police have come in and mowed down those occupiers that had taken over the streets and buildings? With OWS, should the police have mowed them down for occupying public property? Should British soldiers have shot those at the Boston Tea Party?

Those on 1/6/21 were misguided and wrong but I have yet to see evidence of anyone other than the police firing a shot and killing anyone.

Ashli Babbitt was killed. The video shows her standing there like many others, yet the cop kills her.

What’s telling is the msm and government are not releasing the killers name, nor has he been charged.

They're lucky they didn't kill everyone of those scum bags who attacked our country.

You have no understanding of history or liberty.

 

[MadDog]

R

No they were socialist lefties who opposed communism, just Marxist scum turning on each other, there is nothing right wing about any of it.

From Wikipedia, which has heavily referenced their statements. You should find adequate support for their statement that the Nazis were Far right wing.

The Nazi Party,[a] officially the National Socialist German Workers' Partyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#cite_note-8 (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-right[7][8] political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945, that created and supported the ideology of Nazism. Its precursor, the German Workers' Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; DAP), existed from 1919 to 1920. The Nazi Party emerged from the German nationalist, racist and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against the communist uprisings in post-World War I Germany.[9] The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[10] Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although this was later downplayed to gain the support of business leaders, and in the 1930s the party's main focus shifted to antisemitic and anti-Marxistthemes.[11]

Nazi Party - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You apparently don’t know what Marxism is a FORM of communism and bothe are different than socialism.

Do you think today’s Neo Nazis are left wingers. They’d be surprised as hell to hear that. Try calling one of them a left winger and see how far that gets you.

 

[Rigby5]

Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.

The only thing I see is the extremists run the parties and as long as they continue to do so, there is no unity. What happened January 6th was as sad of a day we have seen in a long time, however there are underlying reasons of why and how this happened and if we don’t fix the problem it, it will go back underground for decades and then it will be back.

America isn’t listening to its people, it is listening to the rich because the system is geared toward the rich. It doesn’t listen to the working class, the poor, the people of color, it listens and responds to the rich, that has to change or the divide will continue and grow.

There is no leadership in either party, they don’t give a damn about the people they were elected to serve, they believe they are better than the average American, know more than the average American and above everything, they believe the party’s interest is more important than the country’s best interest.

Most of what you say I agree with.

I will say though, yes, it will go back underground and come back as you say, but that has been going on since our earliest civilizations. It goes back all the way to the Roman Empire. And we as a population still haven't learned the lesson. "Give the people bread and circus" which is a failure of the citizenry has been repeated here in this country and in others. We just don't get it. Not sure the majority of the citizenry ever will. It's why the 1% do not want to see the masses become educated. Hence, let's defund the public schools. It's been a simple, yet effective tool in keeping the majority of populations in check.

The 1% backed Biden. Do you live under a floorboard?

80 million is more than 1%. Just sayin

All the corporations, media moguls, bankers, oligarchs, international financiers, hedge funds, have backed Biden.
Are you fucking blind???
The proletariat have backed Trump. 100%
Trump is their voice.

Not my fault they picked an incompetent fuckup to be their voice. I dont care that they dont like the results of the election. Tough shit. Better luck next time.

I don't think there is evidence of the election being rigged, but obviously the primaries are, or else we would have better choices than Trump or Biden.
There is way too much influence by the wealthy elite who control the media.
We have hit a very low period.
Any impossible to point fingers since so many are to blame.

I agree that money has control but this election is totally different. You have a wealthy con artist posing as the peoples choice simply because he wants to make money off them. Its like Dumpsters are retarded or something. They are directly to blame for the state of affairs.

I am far left, progressive, liberal, so I would never fall for Trump's line.
However, that does not change the fact the democrats in congress are also lying crooks who have been selling us all down the river since the Clinton administration repealed Glass -Steagall, and pass the 1994 federal crime bill. The War on Drugs, 3 strikes, gun control, etc., is all totally illegal and corrupt.

Congress should not just have been occupied, but burned to the ground.

Congress gets burned to the ground then we wind up with a dictator like Dump. We need that check and we need to vote these slow moving crooks in congress out.

Well I do not like Trump and do not agree the election was stolen, even though I think the primaries were rigged.
So I prefer the slow and safe approach as well.
But people calling the misguided Trump supporters as terrorist and shooting them like the police did, is totally and completely wrong.
If those protestors are abused, then I quit.
That is it for this whole government.

They stormed a federal building with congress men and women in there with the intention of killing some of them. Why would it be wrong to shoot these insurrectionists who were threatening murder in the Capitol?

Prove the intent, all we have heard is the narrative from the media. Do we know who fired shots in the Capitol building? So far the only shots I have heard about is from to DC police.

There are plenty of videos with the terrorists stating their intent.

No, there are not.
I have watched all the videos there are.
Not once was there any indication of more than an intent to protest.
If there had been, then there would have not only been more weapons, but also more dead cops.
There were very few crimes considering, and they amount to misdemeanor vandalism only.

 

[White 6]

There were no innocent trump mob people that broke into the capital. If somebody broke into my house in Tennessee and were coming through the window, it is totally legal in Tennessee to defend with deadly force. Crime is a dangerous hobby, activity or profession, no matter what you think justifies it. It doesn't justify and can get people killed. I can't recommend it. Use your best judgement, if you have any left, rattling around in there.

This last summer the left was in favor of Protesters breaking into the federal ICE building in Portland and wanted the feds to back down. It is a public building, not a private residence. There would be no reason to come to your private residence to protest. Sit ins used o be quite common at colleges, would the police been justified by mowing them all down? Would you have supported the police mowing down protesters/rioters at the Portland ICE building? Would the people in Seattle that had their offices and residences broke into and occupied by CHOP been justified in shooting those people? Should the police have come in and mowed down those occupiers that had taken over the streets and buildings? With OWS, should the police have mowed them down for occupying public property? Should British soldiers have shot those at the Boston Tea Party?

Those on 1/6/21 were misguided and wrong but I have yet to see evidence of anyone other than the police firing a shot and killing anyone.

You got to be kidding. The mayors and Governors in the few and far between cities that that had violent protests were idiots, not to use greater force to protect property. I have no need to prescribe rules of engagement for past events. You are dealing in hypothetical, imaginary situations. Boston Tea Party? Start a new thread. See if you get any takers.
Yet people died during the seditious attack on the Capital Building, and it is the fault of those that lead or participated in the attack. Lawless mob activity is dangerous and you take your chances. Be careful of what you support or participate in.

 

[Rigby5]

There will be no unity with seditionists.

Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.

Beat me to it. This is literally what I meant about people who seem to WANT a civil war.

The msm and D Party demonizing half the electorate is likely to result in violence.

It was less than half by about 8 million. If you wish violence there are those that will change your mind for you.

Apparently you didn’t understand my post. Let me try again. The msm and D Party are demonizing a lot of Americans. If you think this appropriate, you’re a fool. If you think this won’t lead to more violence, you’re doubly a fool.

No doubt they want violence so that they can impose ever greater tyrannies on the American people, in the Land of the Free.

Facts should never lead to violence. If it does those idiots that refuse to deal with the facts will be dealt with. You can call that tyranny if you choose. I call it justice.

What do you mean?
The facts are the occupiers of Congress, as ignorant as they were, showed no intent to cause any harm to individuals.
The ONLY people who did were the police, who simply started shooting innocent people.
So the facts show violence is now warranted.
We are supposed to arrest the police who were guilty.
Only after the police violators are arrested for deliberate murder, can there be justice.

I mean just what I said.

Its already proven they were going to the capitol to harm and possibly kill Pelosi and Pence as well as take over the government. They have that on video tape. The police as a group severely underperformed at best and at worst actually supported the terrorists. The ones caught on tape taking selfies with the terrorists and saying that they supported them should be imprisoned.

Since you are so convinced that you can legally determine who committed a crime you must really support all the historical lynchings that have taken place when those people did the same. Maybe you should apply for membership with the KKK.

The KKK is my sworn enemy. The terrorists that stormed the capitol were probably members of the KKK.

No, the KKK had both good and bad originally, with some simply resisting corrupt federal carpet baggers.
And the goal of the majority of the congressional protestors simply want job security in an era when congress is illegally letting all the jobs offshore to places like China.
It is as wrong to assume prejudicial discrimination against them as it would be for them to discriminate based race.