This is the kind of stupidity & blatant racism that marginalizes the left and they're blind to it.

[Pogo]

so you say it's ok to treat people differently because of their race?

keep in mind in this scenario YOU don't get to define the difference, just said it's ok.

Nope -- YOU just said that. I made no value judgment; simply defined a definition. That's a neutral.

In fact we all treat others differently on account of their race, age, gender, social position, even ethnicity and religion. Do you speak the same way to a child as you do to your boss? Do you speak the same way to someone learning English as you do to your brother?

That's not "ÖK" or "not OK", it's simply how social structrue works. Again -- a neutral

not gonna buy into your singular use of the term. sorry. while i agree that's a lot of the definition, treating people with hate or antagonism due to their "race" is in fact racism.

Now you're moving your own goalpsost, retroactively introducing "hate and antagonism". Again, inserting value judgments where there were none.

now - when people criticized obama and his policies how come THEY were racist when they never claimed racial superiority?

They weren't. Not on that basis. I see you've expanded from Moving Goalposts to Strawman. Multitasking.

could it be someone is "bending" the term to fit their own agenda?

Sure looks that way.

 

[iceberg]

so you say it's ok to treat people differently because of their race?

keep in mind in this scenario YOU don't get to define the difference, just said it's ok.

Nope -- YOU just said that. I made no value judgment; simply defined a definition. That's a neutral.

In fact we all treat others differently on account of their race, age, gender, social position, even ethnicity and religion. Do you speak the same way to a child as you do to your boss? Do you speak the same way to someone learning English as you do to your brother?

That's not "ÖK" or "not OK", it's simply how social structrue works. Again -- a neutral

not gonna buy into your singular use of the term. sorry. while i agree that's a lot of the definition, treating people with hate or antagonism due to their "race" is in fact racism.

Now you're moving your own goalpsost, retroactively introducing "hate and antagonism". Again, inserting value judgments where there were none.

now - when people criticized obama and his policies how come THEY were racist when they never claimed racial superiority?

They weren't. Not on that basis. I see you've expanded from Moving Goalposts to Strawman. Multitasking.

could it be someone is "bending" the term to fit their own agenda?

Sure looks that way.

before i go on - do you agree with the way the left uses "racism" as a get out of jail free card?

if so - then the people they've been calling racist, please link me to where they have said they are superior due to their race. since this is the only way it can be defined, please show me public examples of how the left is correctly using RACISM to counter people who disagree with them.

 

[Slade3200]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

um, it's also treating people differently because of their race.

you left that slightly important part out. just thought i'd update your definition.

Uh, no it's not. Sorry, you don't get to bend definitions to fit the case.

If that were the case Affirmative Action laws and doctors treating sickle cell anemia or lactose intolerance would be "racist".

So I got no answer to post 10. Or to post 9. OP runs away.
Prolly cowering in fear that I'll call out the strawman in his OP.

so you say it's ok to treat people differently because of their race?

keep in mind in this scenario YOU don't get to define the difference, just said it's ok.

Racism - Wikipedia

not gonna buy into your singular use of the term. sorry. while i agree that's a lot of the definition, treating people with hate or antagonism due to their "race" is in fact racism. i won't leave that out because you don't happen to like it.

now - when people criticized obama and his policies how come THEY were racist when they never claimed racial superiority?

could it be someone is "bending" the term to fit their own agenda? maybe you should stop them too before this all gets out of hand.

If people criticized Obama for his policies then that is not racist. If they were questioning he citizenship and calling him a muslim then that is racist. If we are being honest then we should both be able to admit that some on the Right were called racist without cause while some on the right had very racist intent at the base of their critiques on Obama.

With that said, how was the lady in the OP's topic being racist? how was it showing hatred or antagonism towards a racial group per your definition?

 

[Pogo]

before i go on - do you agree with the way the left uses "racism" as a get out of jail free card?

I don't agree on blanket collective strawman absolute statements, PERIOD.

"The left" isn't some kaffeeklatch meeting in Dubuque and voting unanimously. Nor is "the right". The world is simply not made up of The Borg. We are all individuals with what is known as "free will".

if so - then the people they've been calling racist, please link me to where they have said they are superior due to their race. since this is the only way it can be defined, please show me public examples of how the left is correctly using RACISM to counter people who disagree with them.

See above, dismissed.

 

[dturner1157]

If a white person said that all hell would have broken loose. Jesss!

Yup.

I'm rooting for all the white people....

Not im rooting for the best or people I know, just blacks.

Do you really not understand the difference between white male christians and all other groups in this country? White male christians are not a minority group with a history of oppression. Its like calling women's rights advocates or people that cheer success for women as sexist. All ask again, do you really not get it?

What I understand (and apparently you don't) is that you are supporting a double standard. Which really is the definition of liberal policy. (idiocy) LOL

 

[iceberg]

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

um, it's also treating people differently because of their race.

you left that slightly important part out. just thought i'd update your definition.

Uh, no it's not. Sorry, you don't get to bend definitions to fit the case.

If that were the case Affirmative Action laws and doctors treating sickle cell anemia or lactose intolerance would be "racist".

So I got no answer to post 10. Or to post 9. OP runs away.
Prolly cowering in fear that I'll call out the strawman in his OP.

so you say it's ok to treat people differently because of their race?

keep in mind in this scenario YOU don't get to define the difference, just said it's ok.

Racism - Wikipedia

not gonna buy into your singular use of the term. sorry. while i agree that's a lot of the definition, treating people with hate or antagonism due to their "race" is in fact racism. i won't leave that out because you don't happen to like it.

now - when people criticized obama and his policies how come THEY were racist when they never claimed racial superiority?

could it be someone is "bending" the term to fit their own agenda? maybe you should stop them too before this all gets out of hand.

If people criticized Obama for his policies then that is not racist. If they were questioning he citizenship and calling him a muslim then that is racist. If we are being honest then we should both be able to admit that some on the Right were called racist without cause while some on the right had very racist intent at the base of their critiques on Obama.

With that said, how was the lady in the OP's topic being racist? how was it showing hatred or antagonism towards a racial group per your definition?

i would agree sometimes people are in fact, racist. however to claim everyone racist because they don't like what someone who happens to be of another race would not be.

now given the definition provided in that you believe your race is superior than another, how does calling obama a muslim make them racist?

also - muslim isn't a race, so how would that work in this example? it's "bending" the definition to fit your needs, much like i was being accused of being - even though i don't hold to racism ONLY being about this. but if we single out muslims and say negative talk to them is racist, then what is it when done to catholics? baptists? jehova witnesses?

as to the op and the point there - no way in hell is that racism and *to me* the overuse of the word has only given credibility to stupid people like this making blanket claims.

 

[Jackson]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

If you are rooting for someone, you are choosing that person or side, right? She never claims they deserved the emmys, just that they were choosing blacks over whites. Surely not EVERY black was the best in their category...

 

[Pogo]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

If you are rooting for someone, you are choosing that person or side, right? She never claims they deserved the emmys, just that they were choosing blacks over whites. Surely not EVERY black was the best in their category...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ and?


Again the question was, where does she articulate a value judgment that one race is superior to another?

 

[Slade3200]

If a white person said that all hell would have broken loose. Jesss!

Yup.

I'm rooting for all the white people....

Not im rooting for the best or people I know, just blacks.

Do you really not understand the difference between white male christians and all other groups in this country? White male christians are not a minority group with a history of oppression. Its like calling women's rights advocates or people that cheer success for women as sexist. All ask again, do you really not get it?

What I understand (and apparently you don't) is that you are supporting a double standard. Which really is the definition of liberal policy. (idiocy) LOL

Well if you understand it so well then how about you explain it and not make empty pointless statements like you just did.

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

um, it's also treating people differently because of their race.

you left that slightly important part out. just thought i'd update your definition.

Uh, no it's not. Sorry, you don't get to bend definitions to fit the case.

If that were the case Affirmative Action laws and doctors treating sickle cell anemia or lactose intolerance would be "racist".

So I got no answer to post 10. Or to post 9. OP runs away.
Prolly cowering in fear that I'll call out the strawman in his OP.

so you say it's ok to treat people differently because of their race?

keep in mind in this scenario YOU don't get to define the difference, just said it's ok.

Racism - Wikipedia

not gonna buy into your singular use of the term. sorry. while i agree that's a lot of the definition, treating people with hate or antagonism due to their "race" is in fact racism. i won't leave that out because you don't happen to like it.

now - when people criticized obama and his policies how come THEY were racist when they never claimed racial superiority?

could it be someone is "bending" the term to fit their own agenda? maybe you should stop them too before this all gets out of hand.

If people criticized Obama for his policies then that is not racist. If they were questioning he citizenship and calling him a muslim then that is racist. If we are being honest then we should both be able to admit that some on the Right were called racist without cause while some on the right had very racist intent at the base of their critiques on Obama.

With that said, how was the lady in the OP's topic being racist? how was it showing hatred or antagonism towards a racial group per your definition?

i would agree sometimes people are in fact, racist. however to claim everyone racist because they don't like what someone who happens to be of another race would not be.

now given the definition provided in that you believe your race is superior than another, how does calling obama a muslim make them racist?

also - muslim isn't a race, so how would that work in this example? it's "bending" the definition to fit your needs, much like i was being accused of being - even though i don't hold to racism ONLY being about this. but if we single out muslims and say negative talk to them is racist, then what is it when done to catholics? baptists? jehova witnesses?

as to the op and the point there - no way in hell is that racism and *to me* the overuse of the word has only given credibility to stupid people like this making blanket claims.

Calling Obama a Muslim with the intent of degrading him is inflammatory and antagonistic. Of course people who are accepting and supportive of muslims won't care or find offense in the claim but again it is all about the intent of the person using the language. Many people used those type of attacks in combination with the birther movement... "The black guy isn't a real American". It was very flagrant and transparent and have very much to do with the way he looked

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Grampa gets his news from the Daily Fail and spends his days being outraged.

So she didn't say that?
Got a link?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

By the way folks, don't let Pogo take you down a rabbit hole. He is so good at deflection, he's an artist at it.

 

[Pogo]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

Oh fer fuxsake, here come the Doublethinkers with their movable feast of definitions for a single word depending on what serves them in the moment.

Piss off Charley. Definitions are already in place; they're not up for rewrite just because you have a false equation that you wish would work but doesn't.

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.​

 

[Mac1958]

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

The only allowable current definition of "racist" is that which allows a Regressive to put someone on the defensive and avoid honest conversation. It's fluid, like a river. When they see a chance to use it, regardless of how much of an intellectually dishonest stretch it takes, they'll roll it out as a weapon.

They're turned a terribly important word and concept into a caricature.
,

 

[DigitalDrifter]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

Oh fer fuxsake, here come the Doublethinkers with their movable feast of definitions for a single word depending on what serves them in the moment.

Piss off Charley. Definitions are already in place; they're not up for rewrite just because you have a false equation that you wish would work but doesn't.

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.​

Copy and paste all you want, the fact of the matter is, today, if a white person made these same remarks they would be labeled a 'racist', regardless of the original definitions of 'racism'.

Blacks can get away with it, white people can't.

 

[Pogo]

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

The only allowable current definition of "racist" is that which allows a Regressive to put someone on the defensive and avoid honest conversation. It's fluid, like a river.

They're turned a terribly important word and concept into a caricature.

There ain't no "fluid" in definitions. A term means what it means, not what some wackball poster chooses it to mean to fit some square peg into a round hole per their own Lewis Carroll fantasy.

This is, at the risk of unintended pun, pretty much black and white. If there's a premise that one race is superior to another, then that's evidence of racism. If there is not, then there is not such evidence.

At the beginning of this thread I asked for such evidence. I never got any. But I never expected any either.

 

[Pogo]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

Oh fer fuxsake, here come the Doublethinkers with their movable feast of definitions for a single word depending on what serves them in the moment.

Piss off Charley. Definitions are already in place; they're not up for rewrite just because you have a false equation that you wish would work but doesn't.

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.​

Copy and paste all you want, the fact of the matter is, today, if a white person made these same remarks they would be labeled a 'racist', regardless of the original definitions of 'racism'.

Blacks can get away with it, white people can't.

Speculation fallacy dismissed. Your woulda-coulda fantasies are irrelevant here.

The fact is, we got an OP that presented a statement and claimed association with both "racism" and "the left". Neither can be substantiated.

 

[Mac1958]

HBO star Issa Rae backs African-Americans at the Emmys | Daily Mail Online

Outright racism that is ignored while phrases like "Make America Great Again" are labeled codespeak for white supremacy.

Lol,,, she doesn't even realize how racist she is! Stupid is as stupid says!

Racism is defined as the belief that one race is superior to another.

Where does she say that?

Serious question, I didn't read the whole article if it's in there, please quote.

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

Oh fer fuxsake, here come the Doublethinkers with their movable feast of definitions for a single word depending on what serves them in the moment.

Piss off Charley. Definitions are already in place; they're not up for rewrite just because you have a false equation that you wish would work but doesn't.

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.​

Copy and paste all you want, the fact of the matter is, today, if a white person made these same remarks they would be labeled a 'racist', regardless of the original definitions of 'racism'.

Blacks can get away with it, white people can't.

"I don't like Obamacare".

"Oh, you just say that because you're a RACIST".

Anyone who denies that's a tactic is a LIAR.
.

 

[iceberg]

If a white person said that all hell would have broken loose. Jesss!

Yup.

I'm rooting for all the white people....

Not im rooting for the best or people I know, just blacks.

Do you really not understand the difference between white male christians and all other groups in this country? White male christians are not a minority group with a history of oppression. Its like calling women's rights advocates or people that cheer success for women as sexist. All ask again, do you really not get it?

What I understand (and apparently you don't) is that you are supporting a double standard. Which really is the definition of liberal policy. (idiocy) LOL

Well if you understand it so well then how about you explain it and not make empty pointless statements like you just did.

um, it's also treating people differently because of their race.

you left that slightly important part out. just thought i'd update your definition.

Uh, no it's not. Sorry, you don't get to bend definitions to fit the case.

If that were the case Affirmative Action laws and doctors treating sickle cell anemia or lactose intolerance would be "racist".

So I got no answer to post 10. Or to post 9. OP runs away.
Prolly cowering in fear that I'll call out the strawman in his OP.

so you say it's ok to treat people differently because of their race?

keep in mind in this scenario YOU don't get to define the difference, just said it's ok.

Racism - Wikipedia

not gonna buy into your singular use of the term. sorry. while i agree that's a lot of the definition, treating people with hate or antagonism due to their "race" is in fact racism. i won't leave that out because you don't happen to like it.

now - when people criticized obama and his policies how come THEY were racist when they never claimed racial superiority?

could it be someone is "bending" the term to fit their own agenda? maybe you should stop them too before this all gets out of hand.

If people criticized Obama for his policies then that is not racist. If they were questioning he citizenship and calling him a muslim then that is racist. If we are being honest then we should both be able to admit that some on the Right were called racist without cause while some on the right had very racist intent at the base of their critiques on Obama.

With that said, how was the lady in the OP's topic being racist? how was it showing hatred or antagonism towards a racial group per your definition?

i would agree sometimes people are in fact, racist. however to claim everyone racist because they don't like what someone who happens to be of another race would not be.

now given the definition provided in that you believe your race is superior than another, how does calling obama a muslim make them racist?

also - muslim isn't a race, so how would that work in this example? it's "bending" the definition to fit your needs, much like i was being accused of being - even though i don't hold to racism ONLY being about this. but if we single out muslims and say negative talk to them is racist, then what is it when done to catholics? baptists? jehova witnesses?

as to the op and the point there - no way in hell is that racism and *to me* the overuse of the word has only given credibility to stupid people like this making blanket claims.

Calling Obama a Muslim with the intent of degrading him is inflammatory and antagonistic. Of course people who are accepting and supportive of muslims won't care or find offense in the claim but again it is all about the intent of the person using the language. Many people used those type of attacks in combination with the birther movement... "The black guy isn't a real American". It was very flagrant and transparent and have very much to do with the way he looked

yes, i would agree on the intent. however, is it racism?

looked? you don't think many of his actions come across as pro-muslim?

 

[iceberg]

That is the classical definition of racism, however today it's quite acceptable that what this woman said is indeed racist.

The only allowable current definition of "racist" is that which allows a Regressive to put someone on the defensive and avoid honest conversation. It's fluid, like a river.

They're turned a terribly important word and concept into a caricature.

There ain't no "fluid" in definitions. A term means what it means, not what some wackball poster chooses it to mean to fit some square peg into a round hole per their own Lewis Carroll fantasy.

This is, at the risk of unintended pun, pretty much black and white. If there's a premise that one race is superior to another, then that's evidence of racism. If there is not, then there is not such evidence.

At the beginning of this thread I asked for such evidence. I never got any. But I never expected any either.

so has "nazi" been redefined? it's used a lot and i've not seen a nazi that i know of. have you? a bonafied nazi? send me pics im curious now.

what about white supremacist? trump was suddenly that for saying there are good people on both sides (of the problem). is he or are people twisting these words around to suit their tastes?

just getting your input before moving on.