This Is What Happened At The Pentagon On 9/11

wow who has more credibility these patriots...or...candycornhole...hmmmmm



Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile BatteryControl Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


.........................................................................................................................................................

t. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.


Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

........................................................................................................................................
Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."


.........................................................................................................................................................
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).
Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report


If you wanted to (you won't of course) you could listen to the words of Colonel Robert Marr who was stationed at NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector) describe the reality of the situation.

National Geographic Channel: Inside 9/11 Video Archive

His and dozens of other accounts of 9/11 by people who were actually involved in it--not commentators--can be found at that site.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. All of them are in on it too according to you and your other "patriots".

 
wow who has more credibility these patriots...or...candycornhole...hmmmmm



Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile BatteryControl Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


.........................................................................................................................................................

t. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.


Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

........................................................................................................................................
Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."


.........................................................................................................................................................
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).
Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report


If you wanted to (you won't of course) you could listen to the words of Colonel Robert Marr who was stationed at NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector) describe the reality of the situation.

National Geographic Channel: Inside 9/11 Video Archive

His and dozens of other accounts of 9/11 by people who were actually involved in it--not commentators--can be found at that site.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. All of them are in on it too according to you and your other "patriots".


. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx
 
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wow who has more credibility these patriots...or...candycornhole...hmmmmm



Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile BatteryControl Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


.........................................................................................................................................................

t. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.


Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

........................................................................................................................................
Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."


.........................................................................................................................................................
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).
Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report


If you wanted to (you won't of course) you could listen to the words of Colonel Robert Marr who was stationed at NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector) describe the reality of the situation.

National Geographic Channel: Inside 9/11 Video Archive

His and dozens of other accounts of 9/11 by people who were actually involved in it--not commentators--can be found at that site.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. All of them are in on it too according to you and your other "patriots".


. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx
what a load of shit
you guys never "debunk" anything
you just change your story and claim something completely different
like when your jones asshole professor was shown it was IMPOSSIBLE for thermite to cut a beam, he changed it to some mysterious "super thermite"
that doesn't exist for anything other than igniting fireworks
 
wow who has more credibility these patriots...or...candycornhole...hmmmmm



Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile BatteryControl Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."


.........................................................................................................................................................

t. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.


Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back.

........................................................................................................................................
Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history."


.........................................................................................................................................................
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech).
Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

Thus far, however, there has been no response from political leaders in Washington or, for that matter, in other capitals around the world. Our organization, Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, has been formed to help bring about such a response.

We believe that the truth about 9/11 needs to be exposed now---not in 50 years as a footnote in the history books---so the policies that have been based on the Bush-Cheney administration’s interpretation of the 9/11 attacks can be changed.

We are, therefore, calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media."


Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report


If you wanted to (you won't of course) you could listen to the words of Colonel Robert Marr who was stationed at NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector) describe the reality of the situation.

National Geographic Channel: Inside 9/11 Video Archive

His and dozens of other accounts of 9/11 by people who were actually involved in it--not commentators--can be found at that site.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. All of them are in on it too according to you and your other "patriots".


. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx

You're pretty tiresome. Anyway, people who had skin in the game tell a much different story than your paid "analysts" do. Your choice of counsel is your own but listening to people who were there seems to be the most intelligent thing to do. Obviously you think differently.
 

If you wanted to (you won't of course) you could listen to the words of Colonel Robert Marr who was stationed at NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector) describe the reality of the situation.

National Geographic Channel: Inside 9/11 Video Archive

His and dozens of other accounts of 9/11 by people who were actually involved in it--not commentators--can be found at that site.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. All of them are in on it too according to you and your other "patriots".


. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx
what a load of shit
you guys never "debunk" anything
you just change your story and claim something completely different
like when your jones asshole professor was shown it was IMPOSSIBLE for thermite to cut a beam, he changed it to some mysterious "super thermite"
that doesn't exist for anything other than igniting fireworks

What is the current tool used for cutting support columns in building destruction?
 

If you wanted to (you won't of course) you could listen to the words of Colonel Robert Marr who was stationed at NEADS (Northeast Air Defense Sector) describe the reality of the situation.

National Geographic Channel: Inside 9/11 Video Archive

His and dozens of other accounts of 9/11 by people who were actually involved in it--not commentators--can be found at that site.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. All of them are in on it too according to you and your other "patriots".


. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx

You're pretty tiresome. Anyway, people who had skin in the game tell a much different story than your paid "analysts" do. Your choice of counsel is your own but listening to people who were there seems to be the most intelligent thing to do. Obviously you think differently.

none of these patriots are being paid in fact they risk reputation and career and stop saying people..it was one man..and why did thy not interview he FAA controller that destroyed the tapes ?? or even mention the fact ?...no the intelligent thing to do would be to have experts cross examine the testimony
 
Hi DiveBomb:

wow, more proof the troofers dont give a rats ass about the truth

No. This is more proof that DiveBomb :)cuckoo:) is a 'one-liner idiot' :)confused:) who could not find a real 'conspiracy' (check the Forum Title) on a clear day using both hands.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2THs3oNooM]One-Liner Idiot!!! :0)[/ame]

GL,

Terral
 
. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx

You're pretty tiresome. Anyway, people who had skin in the game tell a much different story than your paid "analysts" do. Your choice of counsel is your own but listening to people who were there seems to be the most intelligent thing to do. Obviously you think differently.

none of these patriots are being paid in fact they risk reputation and career and stop saying people..it was one man..and why did thy not interview he FAA controller that destroyed the tapes ?? or even mention the fact ?...no the intelligent thing to do would be to have experts cross examine the testimony

Yeah thats why they sell DVD's, T-shirts, hats, bumperstickers to losers like you with more dollars than sense.

Cross examination happens at the trial level asswipe.
You haven't even got an indictment yet asswipe.
You haven't even got a second (neeless) investigation yet asswipe.
And you come off like a wierdo who is, in fact, an asswipe.
 
You're pretty tiresome. Anyway, people who had skin in the game tell a much different story than your paid "analysts" do. Your choice of counsel is your own but listening to people who were there seems to be the most intelligent thing to do. Obviously you think differently.

none of these patriots are being paid in fact they risk reputation and career and stop saying people..it was one man..and why did thy not interview he FAA controller that destroyed the tapes ?? or even mention the fact ?...no the intelligent thing to do would be to have experts cross examine the testimony

Yeah thats why they sell DVD's, T-shirts, hats, bumperstickers to losers like you with more dollars than sense.

Cross examination happens at the trial level asswipe.
You haven't even got an indictment yet asswipe.
You haven't even got a second (neeless) investigation yet asswipe.
And you come off like a wierdo who is, in fact, an asswipe.

ya that's right retired NORAD officers and and active NASA researchers sell bumper stickers..I don't thnik so..and sworn testomony can be cross examined without a trial..



Controllers' 9/11 Tape Destroyed, Report Says

By Sara Kehaulani Goo
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 7, 2004; Page A02

Six air traffic controllers provided accounts of their communications with hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001, on a tape recording that was later destroyed by a Federal Aviation Administration manager, according to a government investigative report issued yesterday.

It is unclear what was on the tape, but its destruction did little to dispel the appearance that government officials withheld evidence, the report by the Department of Transportation inspector general said. The report found that an FAA manager tape-recorded an hour-long interview with the controllers just hours after the hijacked aircraft crashed into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania. His intention was to provide the information quickly to the FBI. But months after the recording, the tape was never turned over to the FBI and another FAA manager decided on his own to destroy the tape, crushing it with his hand, cutting it into small pieces and depositing the pieces into several trash cans.


Controllers' 9/11 Tape Destroyed, Report Says (washingtonpost.com)
 
Hi Candy:

Yeah thats why they sell DVD's, T-shirts, hats, bumperstickers to losers like you with more dollars than sense.

Cross examination happens at the trial level asswipe.
You haven't even got an indictment yet asswipe.
You haven't even got a second (neeless) investigation yet asswipe.
And you come off like a wierdo who is, in fact, an asswipe.

No. Candy is the Cornholio . . .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yW_sIKBfIk"]. . .Candy Cornholio . . .[/ame]

. . . that thinks this . . .

93crash2.jpg


. . . is a crashed 100-ton Jetliner (my Flight 93 Topic). CandyCorn (heh) cannot even tell the difference between a real crashed 100-Ton Jetliner and AN EMPTY HOLE!!! :0)

crater-stahl.jpg


Then we get to this 9/11 Pentagon Case and Candy makes the same STUPID mistake:

My Pentagon OP

NoWayBaby.jpg


Once again we have an EMPTY HOLE (like the one in Candy's head) and no signs of any crashed 100-Ton Jetliner at all. Zip, zero, nada, NONE.

tomhoran-1.jpg


You 'can' see the green tree (heh), and signs of a missile strike, but NOTHING even remotely resembling a crashed 100-Ton Jetliner! But hey, at least Ms. Candy 'can' sit behind that computer screen and type "asswipe" . . .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2THs3oNooM"]What A Cornholio BoneHead!!! :0)[/ame]

GL,

Terral
 
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Hi Candy:

Yeah thats why they sell DVD's, T-shirts, hats, bumperstickers to losers like you with more dollars than sense.

Cross examination happens at the trial level asswipe.
You haven't even got an indictment yet asswipe.
You haven't even got a second (neeless) investigation yet asswipe.
And you come off like a wierdo who is, in fact, an asswipe.

No. Candy is the Cornholio . . .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yW_sIKBfIk"]. . .Candy Cornholio . . .[/ame]

. . . that thinks this . . .

93crash2.jpg


. . . is a crashed 100-ton Jetliner (my Flight 93 Topic). CandyCorn (heh) cannot even tell the difference between a real crashed 100-Ton Jetliner and AN EMPTY HOLE!!! :0)

crater-stahl.jpg


Then we get to this 9/11 Pentagon Case and Candy makes the same STUPID mistake:

My Pentagon OP

NoWayBaby.jpg


Once again we have an EMPTY HOLE (like the one in Candy's head) and no signs of any crashed 100-Ton Jetliner at all. Zip, zero, nada, NONE.

tomhoran-1.jpg


You 'can' see the green tree (heh), and signs of a missile strike, but NOTHING even remotely resembling a crashed 100-Ton Jetliner! But hey, at least Ms. Candy 'can' sit behind that computer screen and type "asswipe" . . .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2THs3oNooM"]What A Cornholio BoneHead!!! :0)[/ame]

GL,

Terral

lol.great post Terral.I could not have said it better.:lol::lol::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx
what a load of shit
you guys never "debunk" anything
you just change your story and claim something completely different
like when your jones asshole professor was shown it was IMPOSSIBLE for thermite to cut a beam, he changed it to some mysterious "super thermite"
that doesn't exist for anything other than igniting fireworks

What is the current tool used for cutting support columns in building destruction?
shape charges not thermite
and they leave a very different signature on the beams, because the cutting agent is molten copper
they also will bend the metal around the cut
no evidence of that ANYWHERE on 9/11
 
. given the documented lies and destruction of evidence by the FAA. and NORAD .without cross examination from other professionals given or expressed in a NGEO..propaganda piece... it is pretty much a meaningless soundbite

cool reference site for debunking the debunkers however..thanx

You're pretty tiresome. Anyway, people who had skin in the game tell a much different story than your paid "analysts" do. Your choice of counsel is your own but listening to people who were there seems to be the most intelligent thing to do. Obviously you think differently.

none of these patriots are being paid in fact they risk reputation and career and stop saying people..it was one man..and why did thy not interview he FAA controller that destroyed the tapes ?? or even mention the fact ?...no the intelligent thing to do would be to have experts cross examine the testimony
BULLSHIT
most of them are RETIRED
 
Hi Candy:

Yeah thats why they sell DVD's, T-shirts, hats, bumperstickers to losers like you with more dollars than sense.

Cross examination happens at the trial level asswipe.
You haven't even got an indictment yet asswipe.
You haven't even got a second (neeless) investigation yet asswipe.
And you come off like a wierdo who is, in fact, an asswipe.

No. Candy is the Cornholio . . .



. . . that thinks this . . .



. . . is a crashed 100-ton Jetliner (my Flight 93 Topic). CandyCorn (heh) cannot even tell the difference between a real crashed 100-Ton Jetliner and AN EMPTY HOLE!!! :0)



Then we get to this 9/11 Pentagon Case and Candy makes the same STUPID mistake:

My Pentagon OP



Once again we have an EMPTY HOLE (like the one in Candy's head) and no signs of any crashed 100-Ton Jetliner at all. Zip, zero, nada, NONE.



You 'can' see the green tree (heh), and signs of a missile strike, but NOTHING even remotely resembling a crashed 100-Ton Jetliner! But hey, at least Ms. Candy 'can' sit behind that computer screen and type "asswipe" . . .



GL,

Terral

lol.great post Terral.I could not have said it better.:lol::lol::clap2::clap2::clap2:
typical 9/11 rimjob post
applauds another's bullshit post
 
You're pretty tiresome. Anyway, people who had skin in the game tell a much different story than your paid "analysts" do. Your choice of counsel is your own but listening to people who were there seems to be the most intelligent thing to do. Obviously you think differently.

none of these patriots are being paid in fact they risk reputation and career and stop saying people..it was one man..and why did thy not interview he FAA controller that destroyed the tapes ?? or even mention the fact ?...no the intelligent thing to do would be to have experts cross examine the testimony
BULLSHIT
most of them are RETIRED

of course most of the military is retired or they couldn't speak but many still work in the private sector in their fields of expertise and none of them need to sell bumper stickers or take their statements lightly and to suggest so is ludicrous
 
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Hi Candy:



No. Candy is the Cornholio . . .



. . . that thinks this . . .



. . . is a crashed 100-ton Jetliner (my Flight 93 Topic). CandyCorn (heh) cannot even tell the difference between a real crashed 100-Ton Jetliner and AN EMPTY HOLE!!! :0)



Then we get to this 9/11 Pentagon Case and Candy makes the same STUPID mistake:

My Pentagon OP



Once again we have an EMPTY HOLE (like the one in Candy's head) and no signs of any crashed 100-Ton Jetliner at all. Zip, zero, nada, NONE.



You 'can' see the green tree (heh), and signs of a missile strike, but NOTHING even remotely resembling a crashed 100-Ton Jetliner! But hey, at least Ms. Candy 'can' sit behind that computer screen and type "asswipe" . . .



GL,

Terral

lol.great post Terral.I could not have said it better.:lol::lol::clap2::clap2::clap2:
typical 9/11 rimjob post
applauds another's bullshit post

Rimjob? OMFG....nice!
 
Hi Candy:

Rimjob? OMFG....nice!

What? CandyCornholio :)confused:) cannot find one picture of AA77 crashed ANYWHERE? Okay. Fine. So go ahead and explain WHY :)cuckoo:) you believe a real 100-Ton Jetliner . . .

NotAtPentagon.jpg


. . . crashed into the Pentagon going 530 miles per hour. Try to make a case for these Military/Aviation Experts being DUPES and LIARS (like you):

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTJehfQkuyE]CandyCornholio Has NO CASE! Period![/ame]

GL,

Terral
 
What? CandyCornholio :)confused:) cannot find one picture of AA77 crashed ANYWHERE? Okay. Fine. So go ahead and explain WHY :)cuckoo:) you believe a real 100-Ton Jetliner crashed into the Pentagon going 530 miles per hour. Try to make a case for these Military/Aviation Experts being DUPES and LIARS (like you)
The video you posted is of a 707 doing fuel tank testing on a specially prepared strip that was designed to rip the tanks open.

There would of course be plenty of parts from that 707 left because it was going very slow, landing speed to be exact. The plane that hit the Pentagon, aside from the multitude of witnesses, was doing better than 500 miles an hour when it hit the granite Pentagon building. Of course there's not much left of it.

I'm looking forward to your posts next Friday as to why the Swine Flu pandemic didn't happen. :lol:
 
Did Teral just compare a crashlanding on a strip to slamming into a reinforced building designed to withstand attack) at full speed?
 
Hi Mad:

The video you posted is of a 707 doing fuel tank testing on a specially prepared strip that was designed to rip the tanks open.

Hey Mad! Just show us 'your' pictures of AA77 crashed ANYWHERE.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2THs3oNooM"]Mad Cannot Find Any Pictures Of Any Crashed AA77 Either. :0)[/ame]

GL,

Terral
 

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