This photo captures the difference between socialists and freedom loving capitalists...

[2aguy]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Yeah that would explain why republicans hate rich liberals...

Pointing out the hypocrisy of rich liberals is NOT hate...

Socialists believe they are so morally superior when what they do does nothing but destroy. Just look at Detroit, Baltimore or any city run by Democrats. It is just like the old Soviet Union; bleak, sad, gray and dreary with no hope. But everyone is equal (except the leaders).

Here are more photos...the socialist paradise of East Germany and then after they gave up most of that crap.....

Astonishing East German Renovation 36 pics - Izismile.com





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[NYcarbineer]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

 

[kaz]

Unfettered capitalism is as destructive as unfettered socialism. Both need regulated. An optimum combination of both is best.

There is no such thing a unfettered capitalism. Capitalism by nature has restraints.

Yes, it checks itself. If businesses, consumers or employees misbehave, they lose out

Now days with the regulations, they will, but not so much before the era of regulations...

Liberals like to use the word "regulation" without actually committing to what you are referring to.

 

[Darkwind]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

Does the gardener and housekeeper have advanced degrees?

 

[2aguy]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

I would say not....but when the gardener or the housekeeper gets a job that can afford that house? They can get that house....because in a capitalist society they can change their life circumstances and become more than what they started out as....while in socialism...not so much...they are a gardener or a housekeeper for life...

 

[2aguy]

T

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

Does the gardener and housekeeper have advanced degrees?

The cool thing about a capitialist society...you don't need an advanced degree..as you would need in Europe or a socialist country to get a good government job.....you can start a business and become a millionaire........just by working real hard at doing something someone needs done that you can do better than the other guy...

That is the miracle of Capitalism........

 

[David_42]

I don't see capitalists doing much for the homeless when their are plenty of homes available...

T

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

Does the gardener and housekeeper have advanced degrees?

The cool thing about a capitialist society...you don't need an advanced degree..as you would need in Europe or a socialist country to get a good government job.....you can start a business and become a millionaire........just by working real hard at doing something someone needs done that you can do better than the other guy...

That is the miracle of Capitalism........

European countries are generally social democracies, a mixture of capitalism and socialism, yes, you can start a business and become a millionaire in any first world country, if you're lucky, have start up capital, etc, etc.. Tons of people are trying to move up and only a few will, they're all hard working, only a few will become the millionaires. There is nothing wrong with capitalism if it is regulated.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

I would say not....but when the gardener or the housekeeper gets a job that can afford that house? They can get that house....because in a capitalist society they can change their life circumstances and become more than what they started out as....while in socialism...not so much...they are a gardener or a housekeeper for life...

Under socialism the gardener and housekeeper get affordable healthcare and education. Under capitalism they're on their own.

 

[2aguy]

Unfettered capitalism is as destructive as unfettered socialism. Both need regulated. An optimum combination of both is best.

There is no such thing a unfettered capitalism. Capitalism by nature has restraints.

That statement is utter nonsense. Capitalism's nature is to have NO restraints. Restraints must be imposed on capitalism from outside sources.

Competition is the only restraint that works.......that and the fact for a captialist to succeed....he has to make people happy.....

The government bureaucrat in charge of toilet paper has no one to make sure he does his job right...and the state runs out of toilet paper...ask Venezuela...

 

[David_42]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

I would say not....but when the gardener or the housekeeper gets a job that can afford that house? They can get that house....because in a capitalist society they can change their life circumstances and become more than what they started out as....while in socialism...not so much...they are a gardener or a housekeeper for life...

Under socialism the gardener and housekeeper get affordable healthcare and education. Under capitalism they're on their own.

This is true, especially in european countries that have social democracies, with universal healthcare and affordable education.

 

[2aguy]

I don't see capitalists doing much for the homeless when their are plenty of homes available...

T

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

Does the gardener and housekeeper have advanced degrees?

The cool thing about a capitialist society...you don't need an advanced degree..as you would need in Europe or a socialist country to get a good government job.....you can start a business and become a millionaire........just by working real hard at doing something someone needs done that you can do better than the other guy...

That is the miracle of Capitalism........

European countries are generally social democracies, a mixture of capitalism and socialism, yes, you can start a business and become a millionaire in any first world country, if you're lucky, have start up capital, etc, etc.. Tons of people are trying to move up and only a few will, they're all hard working, only a few will become the millionaires. There is nothing wrong with capitalism if it is regulated.

They are beginning to collapse...people are not working and they are running out of tax money to fund their welfare paradises...that is why they have to import so many foreign workers.....

 

[David_42]

Unfettered capitalism is as destructive as unfettered socialism. Both need regulated. An optimum combination of both is best.

There is no such thing a unfettered capitalism. Capitalism by nature has restraints.

That statement is utter nonsense. Capitalism's nature is to have NO restraints. Restraints must be imposed on capitalism from outside sources.

Competition is the only restraint that works.......that and the fact for a captialist to succeed....he has to make people happy.....

The government bureaucrat in charge of toilet paper has no one to make sure he does his job right...and the state runs out of toilet paper...ask Venezuela...

This doesn't fit reality, early 20th century america/europe, and going back to the dawn of capitalism, conditions were very bad for the workers, no safety laws, capitalists violently fighting labor organizing, children working to get a loaf of bread... The government had to step in.

 

[2aguy]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

I would say not....but when the gardener or the housekeeper gets a job that can afford that house? They can get that house....because in a capitalist society they can change their life circumstances and become more than what they started out as....while in socialism...not so much...they are a gardener or a housekeeper for life...

Under socialism the gardener and housekeeper get affordable healthcare and education. Under capitalism they're on their own.

This is true, especially in european countries that have social democracies, with universal healthcare and affordable education.

There healthcare and education is not affordable...they are running both into the ground....they were just lucky to have previous, hard working generations to pay up to now...now they have made their kids lazy and they don't have the work ethic.....

 

[David_42]

I don't see capitalists doing much for the homeless when their are plenty of homes available...

T

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

Does the gardener and housekeeper have advanced degrees?

The cool thing about a capitialist society...you don't need an advanced degree..as you would need in Europe or a socialist country to get a good government job.....you can start a business and become a millionaire........just by working real hard at doing something someone needs done that you can do better than the other guy...

That is the miracle of Capitalism........

European countries are generally social democracies, a mixture of capitalism and socialism, yes, you can start a business and become a millionaire in any first world country, if you're lucky, have start up capital, etc, etc.. Tons of people are trying to move up and only a few will, they're all hard working, only a few will become the millionaires. There is nothing wrong with capitalism if it is regulated.

They are beginning to collapse...people are not working and they are running out of tax money to fund their welfare paradises...that is why they have to import so many foreign workers.....

I don't think they are beginning to collapse at all, people are working there, want to discuss the employment rates? Welfare paradises? What does that even mean?
List of countries by unemployment rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[David_42]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

I would say not....but when the gardener or the housekeeper gets a job that can afford that house? They can get that house....because in a capitalist society they can change their life circumstances and become more than what they started out as....while in socialism...not so much...they are a gardener or a housekeeper for life...

Under socialism the gardener and housekeeper get affordable healthcare and education. Under capitalism they're on their own.

This is true, especially in european countries that have social democracies, with universal healthcare and affordable education.

There healthcare and education is not affordable...they are running both into the ground....they were just lucky to have previous, hard working generations to pay up to now...now they have made their kids lazy and they don't have the work ethic.....

They are entirely affordable, it's why european countries generally have longer life expectancies and happier citizens, they spend less on healthcare/education then america, and get better results. "previous, hard working generations.." How do you judge that all european kids are lazy? How do you make a basis for any of your claims?

 

[2aguy]

Unfettered capitalism is as destructive as unfettered socialism. Both need regulated. An optimum combination of both is best.

There is no such thing a unfettered capitalism. Capitalism by nature has restraints.

That statement is utter nonsense. Capitalism's nature is to have NO restraints. Restraints must be imposed on capitalism from outside sources.

Competition is the only restraint that works.......that and the fact for a captialist to succeed....he has to make people happy.....

The government bureaucrat in charge of toilet paper has no one to make sure he does his job right...and the state runs out of toilet paper...ask Venezuela...

This doesn't fit reality, early 20th century america/europe, and going back to the dawn of capitalism, conditions were very bad for the workers, no safety laws, capitalists violently fighting labor organizing, children working to get a loaf of bread... The government had to step in.

Yeah...the switch from the misery of a manual labor agrarian culture to an industrial one was messy...why? Because it had never happened before.....now we have people with rock climbing walls at work........things do not change over night and things are not made perfect over night....it has taken us this long to get where we are and we have cleaned up the environment, and work conditions are excellent for even the most manual of laborers.....

And what made all those safety laws, and improvements....captialism...people became wealthier than ever before, and they demanded more from their lives...because they had money to make it happen.........

Socialism destroys innovation and achievement........

 

[2aguy]

I don't see capitalists doing much for the homeless when their are plenty of homes available...

T

Does the capitalist who owns that house pay his gardener and housekeeper enough to have the same house?

Does the gardener and housekeeper have advanced degrees?

The cool thing about a capitialist society...you don't need an advanced degree..as you would need in Europe or a socialist country to get a good government job.....you can start a business and become a millionaire........just by working real hard at doing something someone needs done that you can do better than the other guy...

That is the miracle of Capitalism........

European countries are generally social democracies, a mixture of capitalism and socialism, yes, you can start a business and become a millionaire in any first world country, if you're lucky, have start up capital, etc, etc.. Tons of people are trying to move up and only a few will, they're all hard working, only a few will become the millionaires. There is nothing wrong with capitalism if it is regulated.

They are beginning to collapse...people are not working and they are running out of tax money to fund their welfare paradises...that is why they have to import so many foreign workers.....

I don't think they are beginning to collapse at all, people are working there, want to discuss the employment rates? Welfare paradises? What does that even mean?
List of countries by unemployment rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Dig past the left wing propaganda....

Notice the source....not right wing is it....

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/16/why-denmark-is-shrinking-its-social-safety-net/?_r=0


It shows that between 2005-7, the number of people who got jobs during their four years of benefits — the green line – rose at the beginning before dropping sharply, then spiked as benefits were about to run out, only to plummet after. The red line shows similar behavior in 1998, when Denmark’s benefit period was five years.

“It shows that people are not seeking all the jobs they could get, but just the jobs they would like to have,” said Steen Bocian, chief economist at Danske Bank.

That luxury has become too dear as Denmark exits a two-year downturn.

In addition to halving the unemployment benefits period, the government is pinning high hopes on job activation programs, one of the three pillars in Denmark’s famed “flexicurity” model. Employers have carte blanche to hire and fire, and in turn, the jobless are guaranteed benefits if they attend retraining and job placement programs tailored to prepare them for work where labor is scarce.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

Why would anyone want a house like that even if you can afford it? It's a monstrosity. It's a giant lawn ornament.

 

[David_42]

Unfettered capitalism is as destructive as unfettered socialism. Both need regulated. An optimum combination of both is best.

There is no such thing a unfettered capitalism. Capitalism by nature has restraints.

That statement is utter nonsense. Capitalism's nature is to have NO restraints. Restraints must be imposed on capitalism from outside sources.

Competition is the only restraint that works.......that and the fact for a captialist to succeed....he has to make people happy.....

The government bureaucrat in charge of toilet paper has no one to make sure he does his job right...and the state runs out of toilet paper...ask Venezuela...

This doesn't fit reality, early 20th century america/europe, and going back to the dawn of capitalism, conditions were very bad for the workers, no safety laws, capitalists violently fighting labor organizing, children working to get a loaf of bread... The government had to step in.

Yeah...the switch from the misery of a manual labor agrarian culture to an industrial one was messy...why? Because it had never happened before.....now we have people with rock climbing walls at work........things do not change over night and things are not made perfect over night....it has taken us this long to get where we are and we have cleaned up the environment, and work conditions are excellent for even the most manual of laborers.....

And what made all those safety laws, and improvements....captialism...people became wealthier than ever before, and they demanded more from their lives...because they had money to make it happen.........

Socialism destroys innovation and achievement........

They switched from feudalism in europe to industrial capitalism, the conditions were just as bad, until regulations were put into place. Oh, on the contrarian, it happened in europe, and then in america, we got here because of regulated capitalism and the people organizing, now we have safety regulations, labor laws, taxes, roads, public education, medicare, social security.... Socialism destroys innovation? We've already established that america is a mix of capitalism and socialism, your claim doesn't fit reality.

 

[Lakhota]

Republicans have been the biggest driver of our national debt.