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Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.Ah, yes the good old days but how really good were they. The “good old days” are always viewed through the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia. The reminiscer does not actually remember how it was, especially when they’re talking about their childhood and young adulthood. The human brain is extremely unreliable when it comes to long-term memory, so some of those good times may not have even happened.Cherry pick any items you desire, but we had less crime, neighborhoods that held value, a strongly religious country, a country where strangers actually greeted each other on the street, a much weaker and less intrusive government, and a work ethic where people were too happy to work 6 days a week. Several times in my life I held two jobs; at one point three. Even today as I'm starting to push 60 years old, I have a full-time job and a landlord as well.
You want all these people to come into this country because of jobs. Well guess what? Those jobs won't be there forever. Then what will we do with these people when they are no longer needed? Ship them back to their country?
These excuses and reasons for them coming here is not something I buy into because I believe we AMERICANS can get along just fine without any immigration. I mean, wouldn't it be a better country if we dialed back and you didn't have to much any button on your phone or ATM machine to speak the language of your country????
From a historical standpoint, things are objectively better now. There are less wars than any other point in human history, world hunger is at an all-time low, people are more educated now than any other generation, there have been huge leaps in medicine and technology that have extended and improved the quality of life, many diseases have been eradicated or are close to being so by vaccines and other medical advancements, we’re connected to each other no matter where we are thanks to the internet, more minority groups have more rights than ever before, and hard labor is being replaced by machines so we don’t have to do dangerous tasks.
The “good old days” are a fantasy. It’s better for everyone if we live in the real present. However, if those "good old days" were really that good, it was immigrants, parents and grandparents and great grandparents of those immigrants that made it that good.
To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.Ah, yes the good old days but how really good were they. The “good old days” are always viewed through the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia. The reminiscer does not actually remember how it was, especially when they’re talking about their childhood and young adulthood. The human brain is extremely unreliable when it comes to long-term memory, so some of those good times may not have even happened.
From a historical standpoint, things are objectively better now. There are less wars than any other point in human history, world hunger is at an all-time low, people are more educated now than any other generation, there have been huge leaps in medicine and technology that have extended and improved the quality of life, many diseases have been eradicated or are close to being so by vaccines and other medical advancements, we’re connected to each other no matter where we are thanks to the internet, more minority groups have more rights than ever before, and hard labor is being replaced by machines so we don’t have to do dangerous tasks.
The “good old days” are a fantasy. It’s better for everyone if we live in the real present. However, if those "good old days" were really that good, it was immigrants, parents and grandparents and great grandparents of those immigrants that made it that good.
To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Never said that they were responsible for bloating it, I said most of them use welfare. I also implied that if our social programs are such that we need to bring in foreigners, then maybe it’s time to get rid of them, or at the very least, never create any more.
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Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Never said that they were responsible for bloating it, I said most of them use welfare. I also implied that if our social programs are such that we need to bring in foreigners, then maybe it’s time to get rid of them, or at the very least, never create any more.
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Well they shouldn't be using it at all. They are in the country illegally and no way should they be allowed to use our social services.
Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Never said that they were responsible for bloating it, I said most of them use welfare. I also implied that if our social programs are such that we need to bring in foreigners, then maybe it’s time to get rid of them, or at the very least, never create any more.
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Well they shouldn't be using it at all. They are in the country illegally and no way should they be allowed to use our social services.
And there you have put your finger on the problem with "anchor babies". As automatic citizens, THEY qualify for welfare services, even if their illegal immigrant parents don't.
Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .
Obtaining Asylum in the United States
To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .
Obtaining Asylum in the United States
To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
Great!! They could have been in the US by entering any US embassy in Mexico. But instead, they protested at the one in Mexico City..
A LOT of asylum grants come thru foreign agencies.
This is NOT an "asylum" issue. It's a fucking REFUGEE crisis. If they want Refugee status from ShitHole govts, Congress needs to recognize the crisis. Having a corrupt and lawless govt is NOT grounds for asylum. If it was, There'd be 10,000 at the borders every day. Only 90% of the "asylum" requests are set up for review. And 85% of those are dismissed BEFORE hearings.
Not gonna release 2000 people a day into the USA to roam and fend for themselves for 60 days just to deny 85% of the asylum requests.
Get your tribe to build REFUGEE CAMPS and treat it as the problem it REALLY is..
Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .
Obtaining Asylum in the United States
To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
Great!! They could have been in the US by entering any US embassy in Mexico. But instead, they protested at the one in Mexico City..
A LOT of asylum grants come thru foreign agencies.
This is NOT an "asylum" issue. It's a fucking REFUGEE crisis. If they want Refugee status from ShitHole govts, Congress needs to recognize the crisis. Having a corrupt and lawless govt is NOT grounds for asylum. If it was, There'd be 10,000 at the borders every day. Only 90% of the "asylum" requests are set up for review. And 85% of those are dismissed BEFORE hearings.
Not gonna release 2000 people a day into the USA to roam and fend for themselves for 60 days just to deny 85% of the asylum requests.
Get your tribe to build REFUGEE CAMPS and treat it as the problem it REALLY is..
Immediately once they get in, they start lobbying and championing for policies that made their countries shitholes in the first place.
Don’t believe the righty propaganda about “applying the right way”. You actually have to be in the US to claim asylum. So if someone walks up to the border and claims asylum they aren’t illegal .
Obtaining Asylum in the United States
To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
Great!! They could have been in the US by entering any US embassy in Mexico. But instead, they protested at the one in Mexico City..
A LOT of asylum grants come thru foreign agencies.
This is NOT an "asylum" issue. It's a fucking REFUGEE crisis. If they want Refugee status from ShitHole govts, Congress needs to recognize the crisis. Having a corrupt and lawless govt is NOT grounds for asylum. If it was, There'd be 10,000 at the borders every day. Only 90% of the "asylum" requests are set up for review. And 85% of those are dismissed BEFORE hearings.
Not gonna release 2000 people a day into the USA to roam and fend for themselves for 60 days just to deny 85% of the asylum requests.
Get your tribe to build REFUGEE CAMPS and treat it as the problem it REALLY is..
Immediately once they get in, they start lobbying and championing for policies that made their countries shitholes in the first place.
It is not anti-American to support policies whose purpose is to save America. Without immigration America will not have the size workforce it will need to grow and prosper in the 21st century.wow dude you really are an anti americanOur bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.Ah, yes the good old days but how really good were they. The “good old days” are always viewed through the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia. The reminiscer does not actually remember how it was, especially when they’re talking about their childhood and young adulthood. The human brain is extremely unreliable when it comes to long-term memory, so some of those good times may not have even happened.
From a historical standpoint, things are objectively better now. There are less wars than any other point in human history, world hunger is at an all-time low, people are more educated now than any other generation, there have been huge leaps in medicine and technology that have extended and improved the quality of life, many diseases have been eradicated or are close to being so by vaccines and other medical advancements, we’re connected to each other no matter where we are thanks to the internet, more minority groups have more rights than ever before, and hard labor is being replaced by machines so we don’t have to do dangerous tasks.
The “good old days” are a fantasy. It’s better for everyone if we live in the real present. However, if those "good old days" were really that good, it was immigrants, parents and grandparents and great grandparents of those immigrants that made it that good.
To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
oh palease. asking people to take a cut in pay because you want to bring in illegal aliens to work for nothing? that my friend is anti american. and you are the winner of that title.It is not anti-American to support policies whose purpose is to save America. Without immigration America will not have the size workforce it will need to grow and prosper in the 21st century.wow dude you really are an anti americanOur bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
The only way the nation can survive with it's huge and growing debt is to have a large and growing workforce and population in order to generate the necessary economic growth. Without it we become a has been.
only lousy capitalists lose money on border policy with a commerce clause under any form of Capitalism.oh palease. asking people to take a cut in pay because you want to bring in illegal aliens to work for nothing? that my friend is anti american. and you are the winner of that title.It is not anti-American to support policies whose purpose is to save America. Without immigration America will not have the size workforce it will need to grow and prosper in the 21st century.wow dude you really are an anti americanOur bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
The only way the nation can survive with it's huge and growing debt is to have a large and growing workforce and population in order to generate the necessary economic growth. Without it we become a has been.
And if immigrants all voted republican, republicans would pander to them to get their vote. That's politics.what does any of that have to do with illegal entry into our country. Illegals are not immigrants their are illegal aliens.43 percent of companies in the 2017 Fortune 500 were founded or co-founded by an immigrant or the child of an immigrant. Today 46% of the Inc. 5000 fastest growing small businesses were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants.People that legally immigrate to the US wait months and even years to do so. They pay thousands of dollars travel and relocation cost. They give up their jobs, their friends, their home, and their way of life to come here. America benefits by legal immigration just as immigrant do. It is not generosity. History shows us that it is mutually beneficial.The Unites States of America allows a million foreigners to become citizens of this country every year. No other industrialized or modernized country in the world comes close to our generosity.
So don't let these leftists tell you we are being greedy, inconsiderate, or uncaring of other people in the world outside our country unless they can show you one other country that comes close to ours when it comes to immigration.
No, it's not mutually beneficial. If it were, then we would be asking them to come here.
The truth of the matter is that the US is the greatest country in the world. So it stands to reason that most everybody would want to come here. That's why it's so hard to get in. But as a country of 325 million people, letting everybody in, or even a good percentage in is not in our best interests. We have way more than enough people here to do what we need to do.
There are good jobs and bad jobs in the US. The bad jobs are easy to get. In fact, they are begging people to come work for them. The good jobs? You're not going to get in that easy. You may be on a list for years. You may need to take tests or acquire skills or education. You may not get in at all.
That's the way it works for good countries and bad countries.
Like so many developed nations we are growing older. Birth rates are lower and falling. Retirement is pulling millions out the workforce We need people, not just entrepreneurs but people to pick fruit, build houses, and work in factories. The US Commerce Department projects a labor shortage that will grow from the current 6 million today to over 24 million in just 6 years.
Immigration is vital to our future economic growth. However, the US has the 5th most restrictive immigration policies in the world. With the current target of 1 million legal immigrants a year, we are adding only .3% to our population which is not near enough to meet our needs.
It's Flopper's way of saying "See, some of them are doing great, that's a good reason to let them all in!"
So far I've heard how great workers they are, how religious they are, how family values matter so much to them, how nice of people they are, how they have less percentage of criminals than US born citizens, but I think you could find that in just about any group of people.
However we don't base their acceptance to this country on that. We base it on coming here legally, assimilating into our country, and yes, waiting their turn if need be.
If immigrants were renown to vote Republican, the leftist would have had a wall up 30 years ago, and everybody here today supporting their intrusion on this country would be totally against them today due to crime, diseases, inability to communicate, lack of education or training.
I don't understand your last sentence. Please expound on it.Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.Ah, yes the good old days but how really good were they. The “good old days” are always viewed through the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia. The reminiscer does not actually remember how it was, especially when they’re talking about their childhood and young adulthood. The human brain is extremely unreliable when it comes to long-term memory, so some of those good times may not have even happened.
From a historical standpoint, things are objectively better now. There are less wars than any other point in human history, world hunger is at an all-time low, people are more educated now than any other generation, there have been huge leaps in medicine and technology that have extended and improved the quality of life, many diseases have been eradicated or are close to being so by vaccines and other medical advancements, we’re connected to each other no matter where we are thanks to the internet, more minority groups have more rights than ever before, and hard labor is being replaced by machines so we don’t have to do dangerous tasks.
The “good old days” are a fantasy. It’s better for everyone if we live in the real present. However, if those "good old days" were really that good, it was immigrants, parents and grandparents and great grandparents of those immigrants that made it that good.
To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Never said that they were responsible for bloating it, I said most of them use welfare. I also implied that if our social programs are such that we need to bring in foreigners, then maybe it’s time to get rid of them, or at the very least, never create any more.
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I don't understand your last sentence. Please expound on it.Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Never said that they were responsible for bloating it, I said most of them use welfare. I also implied that if our social programs are such that we need to bring in foreigners, then maybe it’s time to get rid of them, or at the very least, never create any more.
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And if immigrants all voted republican, republicans would pander to them to get their vote. That's politics.what does any of that have to do with illegal entry into our country. Illegals are not immigrants their are illegal aliens.43 percent of companies in the 2017 Fortune 500 were founded or co-founded by an immigrant or the child of an immigrant. Today 46% of the Inc. 5000 fastest growing small businesses were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants.People that legally immigrate to the US wait months and even years to do so. They pay thousands of dollars travel and relocation cost. They give up their jobs, their friends, their home, and their way of life to come here. America benefits by legal immigration just as immigrant do. It is not generosity. History shows us that it is mutually beneficial.
No, it's not mutually beneficial. If it were, then we would be asking them to come here.
The truth of the matter is that the US is the greatest country in the world. So it stands to reason that most everybody would want to come here. That's why it's so hard to get in. But as a country of 325 million people, letting everybody in, or even a good percentage in is not in our best interests. We have way more than enough people here to do what we need to do.
There are good jobs and bad jobs in the US. The bad jobs are easy to get. In fact, they are begging people to come work for them. The good jobs? You're not going to get in that easy. You may be on a list for years. You may need to take tests or acquire skills or education. You may not get in at all.
That's the way it works for good countries and bad countries.
Like so many developed nations we are growing older. Birth rates are lower and falling. Retirement is pulling millions out the workforce We need people, not just entrepreneurs but people to pick fruit, build houses, and work in factories. The US Commerce Department projects a labor shortage that will grow from the current 6 million today to over 24 million in just 6 years.
Immigration is vital to our future economic growth. However, the US has the 5th most restrictive immigration policies in the world. With the current target of 1 million legal immigrants a year, we are adding only .3% to our population which is not near enough to meet our needs.
It's Flopper's way of saying "See, some of them are doing great, that's a good reason to let them all in!"
So far I've heard how great workers they are, how religious they are, how family values matter so much to them, how nice of people they are, how they have less percentage of criminals than US born citizens, but I think you could find that in just about any group of people.
However we don't base their acceptance to this country on that. We base it on coming here legally, assimilating into our country, and yes, waiting their turn if need be.
If immigrants were renown to vote Republican, the leftist would have had a wall up 30 years ago, and everybody here today supporting their intrusion on this country would be totally against them today due to crime, diseases, inability to communicate, lack of education or training.
What I'm writing about is having a workforce large enough to support the economic growth the US must have in the 21st century.
We need to stop illegal immigration but we need to do in the right way. Building walls around the country, circumventing asylum and refugee status, and using executive action is not the right way.
It begins with the law that should provide the legal immigrants we need for the 21st century.
We need to deal both practically and humanly with illegal immigrants in the country. We need to rewrite our asylum laws. Having thousands of migrants at our door asking for asylum which they will not receive is just plain stupid.
It is not anti-American to support policies whose purpose is to save America. Without immigration America will not have the size workforce it will need to grow and prosper in the 21st century.wow dude you really are an anti americanOur bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.To some degree yes. It was immigrants who were welcome here at the time and came here legally; they were needed at one time.
We don't want or need them now. As I mentioned earlier, if immigrants were known to vote Republican, the Democrats would have stopped them long ago. So what this is really about is politics and not our dependency on any third world workers.
As far as today and yesterday, you're talking to a guy with a 80" Hi-Def television with an iPhone X and remote car start that works from a cell phone. I love technology. But I'm going beyond that. I'm speaking more about society and environment...... and perhaps yes, government as well.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
The only way the nation can survive with it's huge and growing debt is to have a large and growing workforce and population in order to generate the necessary economic growth. Without it we become a has been.
Seriously, get rid of Medicare and Social SecurityI don't understand your last sentence. Please expound on it.Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Never said that they were responsible for bloating it, I said most of them use welfare. I also implied that if our social programs are such that we need to bring in foreigners, then maybe it’s time to get rid of them, or at the very least, never create any more.
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Certainly. You stated that the reason we need these invaders is because our population is shrinking and we need working people to support those of us going on Social Security and Medicaid when we retire. SS and Medicare are social programs, therefore your claim is we need immigrants to support these social programs.
If that is the case, don't bring in foreigners, get rid of social programs, and maybe in the future, we won't need foreigners to support them.
165 million people are contributing to Medicare and Social Security and are counting on it in retirment. 65 million are receiving benefits now. Not even Trump would suggest that. Beside, retirement is only one of the problems we face in increasing our workforce. The falling birthrate is going to reduce the size of the workforce and assuming we continue our economic expansion, we're going to need more people, not less. Over, the long term we are going have to increase our birth rate and the only practically way of doing that is to bring people into the country will higher birthrates so as they assimilate into the population, the overall birth rates increase. This will work in the US because our birthrate is not as bad as in many countries. In Italy, the birth rate is so low, 1.35 births per woman, half of what is was in 1960, that by 2120, Italy as we know it will cease to exist.
Seriously, get rid of Medicare and Social SecurityI don't understand your last sentence. Please expound on it.Our bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
Never said that they were responsible for bloating it, I said most of them use welfare. I also implied that if our social programs are such that we need to bring in foreigners, then maybe it’s time to get rid of them, or at the very least, never create any more.
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Certainly. You stated that the reason we need these invaders is because our population is shrinking and we need working people to support those of us going on Social Security and Medicaid when we retire. SS and Medicare are social programs, therefore your claim is we need immigrants to support these social programs.
If that is the case, don't bring in foreigners, get rid of social programs, and maybe in the future, we won't need foreigners to support them.
Automation does not really decrease the overall number of jobs. If shifts the need for employers between businesses. One headline reads automation will eliminate 800,000 jobs but the realty is that it will create 3.5 million new jobs but not the same kind of jobs nor in the same place. As the greatest expense of a business, employee cost is reduced, profits rise rapidly making possible expansion and the creation of new jobs. For example, few companies have automated as fast as Amazon. They are eliminating jobs right and left but they are also creating new jobs. They are doubling employment every few years.It is not anti-American to support policies whose purpose is to save America. Without immigration America will not have the size workforce it will need to grow and prosper in the 21st century.wow dude you really are an anti americanOur bloated welfare system can't be blamed on immigrants. It’s home-grown, not imported.I agree with you. We don't need immigrants at this time. We will need them in 5 to 10 years after they learn the language, established themselves, and become citizens. It takes years to adjust to a new country and really become productive. More so, we need their children and their children's children.
A shrinking workforce due to a falling birthrate, increased rate of retirement, and aging population will make it impossible for the nation to provide enough workers over the next 30 years to sustain the economic growth we need without immigration.
Some people say we should reduce immigration but the fact is we need to increase immigration. For a nation to prosper, it needs to grow economically and it can only grow if it has a sufficient workforce. This is even more important in nations such as ours that have borrowed heavily counting on strong economic growth in the future.
Then your stance is we have to depend on vagrants due to our failing social programs. Food for thought in the future.
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Immigrants use 39 percent fewer welfare and entitlements benefits per person than native-born Americans. Immigrants are less likely to use the individual programs in most cases and, when they do, the benefits they receive tend to be smaller. As I have said before legal immigrants are an asset not a liability.
Don't Blame Immigrants for Bloated Welfare State
The only way the nation can survive with it's huge and growing debt is to have a large and growing workforce and population in order to generate the necessary economic growth. Without it we become a has been.
That's insanity.
The less people, the less need for workers needed to produce for those people. With automation quickly doing jobs humans did or are doing now, what are we going to do in 50 years when there are no jobs? Are we going to be grateful then that we ushered in all these foreigners 50 years ago?
Whether you like it or not, manual labor is being replaced all the time. Kiosks are replacing receptionists at clinics and hospitals, they are also replacing fast food workers, and not far down the road, cooks and order takers. A McDonald's outlet that currently employs 30 people will be reduced to five people. Self checkouts at grocery stores are replacing cashiers. Computers are replacing toll booth operators on turnpikes and toll roads. Same goes for parking garages downtown.
In a town about 50 miles or so out of Cleveland is Lordstown Ohio. There a huge GM plant provided jobs for thousands of people. Now they are closing that plant down. Why? Because they believe the future lies with not only electric cars, but autonomous vehicles. What that means is goodbye Uber, goodbye taxi jobs, goodbye limo jobs and school transportation jobs. So what are we going to do with the first generation of immigrants then?
