Today’s GOP - Censure Those Who Convicted Trump But Not Klan Leaders

Is anyone really surprised?

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That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.

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That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
You'd think they'd know they hit rock bottom already.... :eusa_whistle:
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
There may not be the kind of rock bottom for these people that forces one to reexamine their values.
Its fun to watch the GOP tie it's self into knots for a candidate that has never gotten more votes than a democrat in the same election. .
Republicans have proven that vindictive hypocrisy is their platform.
The GOP is a total joke.

We keep saying how can they get any lower, but they do.

Bush and Trump were totally failed presidents with failed results, the worst in US history.

These retards are going to double down on failure.

Bush was a failure. Trump was a bigger failure leaving office in shame and disgrace with the country in ruin and crisis...

God help us what the next idiot failed GOP president will do. America can't afford to ever elect a republican ever again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....screaming ”white supremacy” and “racist” in a nation founded, built and funded by whites falls on deaf ears...it’s played the fuck out. Your pet human darkies are responsible for mass degradation and the ruin of American communities, cities and states. It’s time for you to exhaust all effort changing ‘dark’ culture / behavior. Move along now...be productive.

You seem to be listening...dropout. LOL


Oh I’m listening alright...and watching fools make fools of themselves as they spend their time vilifying America’s best most productive in the name America’s worse least productive liabilities...haha...Twilight Zone shit. Thanks for the free entertainment Guadalupe.

Yall did produce quite a riot last month, killed a cop, made asses of yourself, and are still denying reality.

No one killed the cop, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Haven't you read about the NYT retraction issued after the impeachment trial was over?
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

The Klan and White Supremacists endorsed Hitlery and Pedo Joe. And I didn't have to go back a century like you, Loser. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:





As noted upthread, there is no "the KKK" as a unit, and there hasn't been since 1944. So basically you're salivating over your own Composition Fallacy, like a toddler pointing proudly to his turd.

BEFORE that date however, in the aforementioned 1924 and 1928 elections the KKK was indeed an organization, a coordinated and powerful one spread coast-to-coast. It endorsed Coolidge because he was the only POTUS candidate who would not denounce them, and it endorsed Hoover because the Democrat, Al Smith, was a Catholic. In fact KKK ran a national smear campaign against Smith exactly for that reason.

Catholics, you see, like immigrants, like labor and unions, like minorities in general, were Klan targets. They were also constituents of the Democratic Party. And you can review --- or in your case read for the first time ever ---- the end part of post 194 to see why that was.

You keep going back 80 years..................I showed you the KKK & White Supremacists endorsed YOUR PAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, Moron.

You keep losing.


I don't have Presidential candidates, moron.

But I do have this:

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Sorry that that's not from "80 years ago". It's from October 2016. Right about the time Rump was paying off Stormy Daniels.

More recently than that, there was:



If you notice the date, that's from Charlottesville. A "very fine" tweet I'm told.
 
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Is anyone really surprised?

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That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.

Le6kTZc.gif
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
You'd think they'd know they hit rock bottom already.... :eusa_whistle:
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
There may not be the kind of rock bottom for these people that forces one to reexamine their values.
Its fun to watch the GOP tie it's self into knots for a candidate that has never gotten more votes than a democrat in the same election. .
Republicans have proven that vindictive hypocrisy is their platform.
The GOP is a total joke.

We keep saying how can they get any lower, but they do.

Bush and Trump were totally failed presidents with failed results, the worst in US history.

These retards are going to double down on failure.

Bush was a failure. Trump was a bigger failure leaving office in shame and disgrace with the country in ruin and crisis...

God help us what the next idiot failed GOP president will do. America can't afford to ever elect a republican ever again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....screaming ”white supremacy” and “racist” in a nation founded, built and funded by whites falls on deaf ears...it’s played the fuck out. Your pet human darkies are responsible for mass degradation and the ruin of American communities, cities and states. It’s time for you to exhaust all effort changing ‘dark’ culture / behavior. Move along now...be productive.

You seem to be listening...dropout. LOL


Oh I’m listening alright...and watching fools make fools of themselves as they spend their time vilifying America’s best most productive in the name America’s worse least productive liabilities...haha...Twilight Zone shit. Thanks for the free entertainment Guadalupe.

Yall did produce quite a riot last month, killed a cop, made asses of yourself, and are still denying reality.

No one killed the cop, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Haven't you read about the NYT retraction issued after the impeachment trial was over?

There was no retraction.

Trump supporters did what they always do, attack and cause damage. I look forward to when they catch the guy and put him in the federal pen.
 
Is anyone really surprised?

View attachment 457050


That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.

Le6kTZc.gif
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
You'd think they'd know they hit rock bottom already.... :eusa_whistle:
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
There may not be the kind of rock bottom for these people that forces one to reexamine their values.
Its fun to watch the GOP tie it's self into knots for a candidate that has never gotten more votes than a democrat in the same election. .
Republicans have proven that vindictive hypocrisy is their platform.
The GOP is a total joke.

We keep saying how can they get any lower, but they do.

Bush and Trump were totally failed presidents with failed results, the worst in US history.

These retards are going to double down on failure.

Bush was a failure. Trump was a bigger failure leaving office in shame and disgrace with the country in ruin and crisis...

God help us what the next idiot failed GOP president will do. America can't afford to ever elect a republican ever again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....screaming ”white supremacy” and “racist” in a nation founded, built and funded by whites falls on deaf ears...it’s played the fuck out. Your pet human darkies are responsible for mass degradation and the ruin of American communities, cities and states. It’s time for you to exhaust all effort changing ‘dark’ culture / behavior. Move along now...be productive.

You seem to be listening...dropout. LOL


Oh I’m listening alright...and watching fools make fools of themselves as they spend their time vilifying America’s best most productive in the name America’s worse least productive liabilities...haha...Twilight Zone shit. Thanks for the free entertainment Guadalupe.

Yall did produce quite a riot last month, killed a cop, made asses of yourself, and are still denying reality.

No one killed the cop, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Haven't you read about the NYT retraction issued after the impeachment trial was over?

There was no retraction.

Trump supporters did what they always do, attack and cause damage. I look forward to when they catch the guy and put him in the federal pen.

The NY Times Retracts the Sicknick Story | RealClearPolitics
 
Is anyone really surprised?

View attachment 457050


That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.

Le6kTZc.gif
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
You'd think they'd know they hit rock bottom already.... :eusa_whistle:
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
There may not be the kind of rock bottom for these people that forces one to reexamine their values.
Its fun to watch the GOP tie it's self into knots for a candidate that has never gotten more votes than a democrat in the same election. .
Republicans have proven that vindictive hypocrisy is their platform.
The GOP is a total joke.

We keep saying how can they get any lower, but they do.

Bush and Trump were totally failed presidents with failed results, the worst in US history.

These retards are going to double down on failure.

Bush was a failure. Trump was a bigger failure leaving office in shame and disgrace with the country in ruin and crisis...

God help us what the next idiot failed GOP president will do. America can't afford to ever elect a republican ever again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....screaming ”white supremacy” and “racist” in a nation founded, built and funded by whites falls on deaf ears...it’s played the fuck out. Your pet human darkies are responsible for mass degradation and the ruin of American communities, cities and states. It’s time for you to exhaust all effort changing ‘dark’ culture / behavior. Move along now...be productive.

You seem to be listening...dropout. LOL


Oh I’m listening alright...and watching fools make fools of themselves as they spend their time vilifying America’s best most productive in the name America’s worse least productive liabilities...haha...Twilight Zone shit. Thanks for the free entertainment Guadalupe.

Yall did produce quite a riot last month, killed a cop, made asses of yourself, and are still denying reality.

No one killed the cop, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Haven't you read about the NYT retraction issued after the impeachment trial was over?

There was no retraction.

Trump supporters did what they always do, attack and cause damage. I look forward to when they catch the guy and put him in the federal pen.

The NY Times Retracts the Sicknick Story | RealClearPolitics


The fakery of that fake headline has already been debunked, Fingerboy. It's all about reading comprehension, or in this case lack thereof. There's no "retraction", the original wording stands.
Why don't you go find some "newly discovered photos".
 
Is anyone really surprised?

View attachment 457050


That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.

Le6kTZc.gif
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
You'd think they'd know they hit rock bottom already.... :eusa_whistle:
That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.
There may not be the kind of rock bottom for these people that forces one to reexamine their values.
Its fun to watch the GOP tie it's self into knots for a candidate that has never gotten more votes than a democrat in the same election. .
Republicans have proven that vindictive hypocrisy is their platform.
The GOP is a total joke.

We keep saying how can they get any lower, but they do.

Bush and Trump were totally failed presidents with failed results, the worst in US history.

These retards are going to double down on failure.

Bush was a failure. Trump was a bigger failure leaving office in shame and disgrace with the country in ruin and crisis...

God help us what the next idiot failed GOP president will do. America can't afford to ever elect a republican ever again.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....screaming ”white supremacy” and “racist” in a nation founded, built and funded by whites falls on deaf ears...it’s played the fuck out. Your pet human darkies are responsible for mass degradation and the ruin of American communities, cities and states. It’s time for you to exhaust all effort changing ‘dark’ culture / behavior. Move along now...be productive.

You seem to be listening...dropout. LOL


Oh I’m listening alright...and watching fools make fools of themselves as they spend their time vilifying America’s best most productive in the name America’s worse least productive liabilities...haha...Twilight Zone shit. Thanks for the free entertainment Guadalupe.

Yall did produce quite a riot last month, killed a cop, made asses of yourself, and are still denying reality.

No one killed the cop, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Haven't you read about the NYT retraction issued after the impeachment trial was over?

There was no retraction.

Trump supporters did what they always do, attack and cause damage. I look forward to when they catch the guy and put him in the federal pen.

The NY Times Retracts the Sicknick Story | RealClearPolitics


The fakery of that fake headline has already been debunked, Fingerboy. It's all about reading comprehension, or in this case lack thereof. There's no "retraction", the original wording stands.
Why don't you go find some "newly discovered photos".

How is it "fake," you NAZI asshole? THE NYT originally claimed he died from being hit on the head with a fire extinguisher, and now they admit he died at home a day after the riot with no indication of blunt trauma.

Where's the "fake" part?
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.

More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.

Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.

No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.

I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.

I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.

So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

This is all pre southern strategy (Lee Atwater), which caused the vast majority of racists to switch parties. The stage was set for this by the earlier dixiecrat movement, and then returned with 1964 civil rights act.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana: died in 1954
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine: died 1961
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine: died 1961
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado: died 1949
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington: died 1957
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon: died 1941
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado: died 1948
DC Stephenson: died 1966


That list was in power WAY before the Dixiecrats, which was two people running in the 1948 election. It would be oversimplification to suggest the infamous Southern Strategy "caused" the majority of racists to switch parties --- those cracks were breaking long before that so it's more accurate to say the Southern Strategy took advantage of those fissures. The last significant wound to the infamous bipolar Democrat "Solid South" was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when Strom Thurmond did what had been unthinkable and switched parties (aprés lui, le deluge). Before that and the more minor strains with the Kennedy Administration, Thurmond had endorsed Eisenhower in 1952, which I believe is why the Democratic Party kicked him off the ballot as he was running for the Senate (he then won that seat as a write-in).

Prior to that was the aforementioned Dixiecrats of 1948, which consisted of Thurmond and Mississippi Governor Fielding Wright, which was generated when Thurmond and fellow travellers heard too much about civil rights at the Democratic convention from the likes of Harry Truman and the young mayor of Minneapolis Hubert Humphrey and walked out to run their own candidate (shades of 1860 when the same thing happened). But the original crack, as far as historical events IMHO dates to 1936, when Franklin Roosevelt, at the height of his influence and about to win a landslide, got the party's Presidential nomination rules changed from a two-thirds majority of the vote to a simple (50% plus one) majority, which cut the knees off the Southern bloc's ability to hold out for its hyperconservative agenda, as it had most dramatically in 1924 when it held up that convention trying to stop the party platform from denouncing the Klan. It became the longest convention in history and required a hundred ballots before it settled on dark horse John W. Davis (who immediately denounced the Klan on his own). The intervening World War II put the regional differences on the back burner until the Dixiecrats erupted.

And then a generation prior to that, at the turn of the century, the Democratic and Republican Parties were essentially swapping constituencies, with the Democrats taking on the interests of minorities, immigrants and labor, while the Republicans cozied up to big business, the wealthy, corporations and Wall Street. That's arguably where the schism really starts, or at least where the seeds are sown.



The Southern Strategy is a debunked myth.
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

The Klan and White Supremacists endorsed Hitlery and Pedo Joe. And I didn't have to go back a century like you, Loser. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:





As noted upthread, there is no "the KKK" as a unit, and there hasn't been since 1944. So basically you're salivating over your own Composition Fallacy, like a toddler pointing proudly to his turd.

BEFORE that date however, in the aforementioned 1924 and 1928 elections the KKK was indeed an organization, a coordinated and powerful one spread coast-to-coast. It endorsed Coolidge because he was the only POTUS candidate who would not denounce them, and it endorsed Hoover because the Democrat, Al Smith, was a Catholic. In fact KKK ran a national smear campaign against Smith exactly for that reason.

Catholics, you see, like immigrants, like labor and unions, like minorities in general, were Klan targets. They were also constituents of the Democratic Party. And you can review --- or in your case read for the first time ever ---- the end part of post 194 to see why that was.

You keep going back 80 years..................I showed you the KKK & White Supremacists endorsed YOUR PAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, Moron.

You keep losing.

Those are satirical endorsements.

Good one. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :itsok:
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.



1. They might have. People do change.

2. And besides, that was 1944 they disbanded. The vast majority of them are dead by now.

3. We have violent mobs rioting from the LEFT rioting almost non stop for the last two years. I would thinks THAT is hte number one domestic terror threat in the US. Teh FBI has been politicized and corrupted by dem partisans.

1. Oh, I’m sure some did...a drop in the proverbial bucket. Most of them just “went into the closet“ when their views were no longer popular in polite society.

2. The Klan isn’t disbanded, Pollyanna. They exist today and happily riot with other Trump supporters.

3. You’ve lost whatever marbles you had left.



1. My parents were FDR era democrats. By the time I knew them, they were in lockstep with the dem party on say, civil rights and teh vietnam war. Unless my understanding of the usa 1930s is way off, they changed during the course of their lives.

2. The Klan(s) that were significant disbanded. The new one is an insignificant fringe, who do very little, other than try to keep mailing lists going.

3. Non-stop riots that are killing people in the streets, are a smaller threat than some people that might do something someday? And I'M the one that has no marbles? LOL!!!! You and the FBI belong in padded rooms.

1. I’m sorry, are you trying to say your parents were racist and then they “grew” out of it?

2. Just because they don’t call themselves the KKK anymore doesn’t mean they ceased to exist.These extremists white supremacy groups are the number one domestic terrorist threat in the IS. Our very own, home grown, terrorists.

3.Yes, you’ve lost your marbles. You’re doing nothing but spouting ridiculous conspiracy theories based on zero evidence.



1. I'm saying people change. Your assumption that everyone who was racist in the past, held firm to those beliefs is wrong.

2. HOw many ws are there in America?

3. LOL!! Says the man calling my concern about mobs killing people in the streets right now, a conspiracy theory without evidence.
1. Yes, people do, but it’s rare.

2. White supremacists don’t often self identify. (They get fired from their jobs)


3. Where are these mobs “killing people right now” exactly?


1. Is it? What makes you think that?

2. I've seen that. A rise in number of organizations could just be how easy it is to organize online. An increase in incidents could be COMPLETELY from a rise in false reports. Do you not find it odd that the left has not compiled a big scary number of how many ws there are in the country?

3. The mobs move around. The deaths are random. I don't know where teh most recent death was, but I know that it was not the last.
1. The fact that very few former racists "come out" as former racists. Change is hard, especially of ingrained beliefs.


Attitudes, particularly racial prejudice, which serves a number of psychological and material functions, often have a basic core that is resistant to change—
2. The rise in incidents "could be" from space aliens, but it's not. The rise in these white supremacist and nationalist groups mirrors what is being observed in other countries as well. They are a bigger threat than the Islamic terrorists that have us undressing at airports.

3. Surprise, surprise, surprise...you making yet another bullshit claim you can't back up. Becoming quite a bad habit with you. Just stop with your ridiculous false equivalency.




1. Who has to "come out"? What is your goal? Public humiliation? Or minds and hearts changing?

2. How many ws are there in this country?

3. The bit where you demand a link for shit you already know or already have an excuse to dismiss, is just a troll tactic and means nothing to me. Stop being a troll.
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

The Klan and White Supremacists endorsed Hitlery and Pedo Joe. And I didn't have to go back a century like you, Loser. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:





As noted upthread, there is no "the KKK" as a unit, and there hasn't been since 1944. So basically you're salivating over your own Composition Fallacy, like a toddler pointing proudly to his turd.

BEFORE that date however, in the aforementioned 1924 and 1928 elections the KKK was indeed an organization, a coordinated and powerful one spread coast-to-coast. It endorsed Coolidge because he was the only POTUS candidate who would not denounce them, and it endorsed Hoover because the Democrat, Al Smith, was a Catholic. In fact KKK ran a national smear campaign against Smith exactly for that reason.

Catholics, you see, like immigrants, like labor and unions, like minorities in general, were Klan targets. They were also constituents of the Democratic Party. And you can review --- or in your case read for the first time ever ---- the end part of post 194 to see why that was.

You keep going back 80 years..................I showed you the KKK & White Supremacists endorsed YOUR PAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, Moron.

You keep losing.


I don't have Presidential candidates, moron.

But I do have this:

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Sorry that that's not from "80 years ago". It's from October 2016. Right about the time Rump was paying off Stormy Daniels.

More recently than that, there was:



If you notice the date, that's from Charlottesville. A "very fine" tweet I'm told.

DAvid Duke???????????????? A clown who never made it past he LA state legislature in the 1980s????????????????

:laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :itsok: :itsok: :itsok:
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

The Klan and White Supremacists endorsed Hitlery and Pedo Joe. And I didn't have to go back a century like you, Loser. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:





As noted upthread, there is no "the KKK" as a unit, and there hasn't been since 1944. So basically you're salivating over your own Composition Fallacy, like a toddler pointing proudly to his turd.

BEFORE that date however, in the aforementioned 1924 and 1928 elections the KKK was indeed an organization, a coordinated and powerful one spread coast-to-coast. It endorsed Coolidge because he was the only POTUS candidate who would not denounce them, and it endorsed Hoover because the Democrat, Al Smith, was a Catholic. In fact KKK ran a national smear campaign against Smith exactly for that reason.

Catholics, you see, like immigrants, like labor and unions, like minorities in general, were Klan targets. They were also constituents of the Democratic Party. And you can review --- or in your case read for the first time ever ---- the end part of post 194 to see why that was.

You keep going back 80 years..................I showed you the KKK & White Supremacists endorsed YOUR PAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, Moron.

You keep losing.

Those are satirical endorsements.



WS and their ilk have had no voice in this nation for 60 years. Their primary goals seem to be, from what I have seen to get enough pr to reach the very few people in society open to their ideas to keep the mailing lists alive.


Everytime you people make a big deal out of one of the "endorsing" a gop candidate, you are working WITH the ws, to keep their movement alive.


You are their biggest allies.
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.

More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.

Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.

No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.

I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.

I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.

So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

This is all pre southern strategy (Lee Atwater), which caused the vast majority of racists to switch parties. The stage was set for this by the earlier dixiecrat movement, and then returned with 1964 civil rights act.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana: died in 1954
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine: died 1961
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine: died 1961
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado: died 1949
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington: died 1957
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon: died 1941
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado: died 1948
DC Stephenson: died 1966


That list was in power WAY before the Dixiecrats, which was two people running in the 1948 election. It would be oversimplification to suggest the infamous Southern Strategy "caused" the majority of racists to switch parties --- those cracks were breaking long before that so it's more accurate to say the Southern Strategy took advantage of those fissures. The last significant wound to the infamous bipolar Democrat "Solid South" was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when Strom Thurmond did what had been unthinkable and switched parties (aprés lui, le deluge). Before that and the more minor strains with the Kennedy Administration, Thurmond had endorsed Eisenhower in 1952, which I believe is why the Democratic Party kicked him off the ballot as he was running for the Senate (he then won that seat as a write-in).

Prior to that was the aforementioned Dixiecrats of 1948, which consisted of Thurmond and Mississippi Governor Fielding Wright, which was generated when Thurmond and fellow travellers heard too much about civil rights at the Democratic convention from the likes of Harry Truman and the young mayor of Minneapolis Hubert Humphrey and walked out to run their own candidate (shades of 1860 when the same thing happened). But the original crack, as far as historical events IMHO dates to 1936, when Franklin Roosevelt, at the height of his influence and about to win a landslide, got the party's Presidential nomination rules changed from a two-thirds majority of the vote to a simple (50% plus one) majority, which cut the knees off the Southern bloc's ability to hold out for its hyperconservative agenda, as it had most dramatically in 1924 when it held up that convention trying to stop the party platform from denouncing the Klan. It became the longest convention in history and required a hundred ballots before it settled on dark horse John W. Davis (who immediately denounced the Klan on his own). The intervening World War II put the regional differences on the back burner until the Dixiecrats erupted.

And then a generation prior to that, at the turn of the century, the Democratic and Republican Parties were essentially swapping constituencies, with the Democrats taking on the interests of minorities, immigrants and labor, while the Republicans cozied up to big business, the wealthy, corporations and Wall Street. That's arguably where the schism really starts, or at least where the seeds are sown.



The Southern Strategy is a debunked myth.


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The facts about the Southern strategy
For this fact-check, we interviewed historians and reviewed news articles from the civil rights era.
Joseph Alsop, an influential syndicated newspaper columnist, called it "basically a segregationist strategy" in a 1962 column.
When Republican Barry Goldwater ran for president in 1964, his Southern surrogates played up the fact that he had just voted against the Civil Rights Act. That paid off in the Deep South where he won a handful of states, but he ultimately lost to Lyndon B. Johnson.
By 1968, the Republicans fine-tuned their approach and packaged it in a way they could win, said Maxwell, the Arkansas professor and an expert on southern politics.
Republican nominee Richard Nixon reached out to white Southerners by opposing school busing and promising that his administration would not "ram anything down your throats" and would appoint "strict constructionist" Supreme Court justices.
The strongest evidence of the Southern strategy comes directly from Republicans at the time.
That includes Clarence Townes, who served as director of the Minorities Division of the Republican National Committee in the 1960s. Harvard professor Leah Wright Rigueur wrote about Townes in her book "The Loneliness of the Black Republican."
When Nixon disbanded the division, Townes told reporters in 1970, "There’s a total fear of what’s called the Southern strategy. Blacks understand that their wellbeing is being sacrificed to political gain. There has to be some moral leadership from the president on the race question, and there just hasn’t been any."
In 1969, Nixon White House aide Lamar Alexander, who now represents Tennessee in the U.S. Senate, wrote about the Southern strategy in a memo following the unsuccessful Supreme Court nomination of Clement Haynsworth, who was opposed by civil rights groups.
"SOUTHERN STRATEGY — we flat out invited the kind of political battle that ultimately erupted when we named a Democrat-turned-Republican conservative from South Carolina. This confirmed the Southern strategy just at a time when it was being nationally debated," Alexander wrote.
Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips openly discussed the Southern strategy in a newspaper article in 1973:
"If the New Washington liberal crowd could tear themselves away from Watergate ecstasy and the lionizing of Daniel Ellsberg for a little look-see below the Mason-Dixon line, they might glean a useful political insight, namely that the GOP 'Southern Strategy' seems to be rolling along — and rolling up local victories — just as if G. Gordon Liddy had never existed." (Ellsberg released the Pentagon papers in 1971 while Liddy was an FBI agent convicted of illegal wiretapping.)
Phillips told the New York Times in 1970 that the Republicans were never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the "Negro vote and they don't need any more than that."
"The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans," he wrote. "That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
Ultimately, winning over white Southern voters required using coded language, as campaign consultant Lee Atwater, who worked on Reagan’s 1980 campaign, explained in an interview 1981. In audio, he can be heard describing how in 1954, a racial slur could be used to describe black Americans, but that "backfired" by 1968 — requiring a pivot to use more abstract language.
"So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites," he said.​
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

The Klan and White Supremacists endorsed Hitlery and Pedo Joe. And I didn't have to go back a century like you, Loser. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:





As noted upthread, there is no "the KKK" as a unit, and there hasn't been since 1944. So basically you're salivating over your own Composition Fallacy, like a toddler pointing proudly to his turd.

BEFORE that date however, in the aforementioned 1924 and 1928 elections the KKK was indeed an organization, a coordinated and powerful one spread coast-to-coast. It endorsed Coolidge because he was the only POTUS candidate who would not denounce them, and it endorsed Hoover because the Democrat, Al Smith, was a Catholic. In fact KKK ran a national smear campaign against Smith exactly for that reason.

Catholics, you see, like immigrants, like labor and unions, like minorities in general, were Klan targets. They were also constituents of the Democratic Party. And you can review --- or in your case read for the first time ever ---- the end part of post 194 to see why that was.

You keep going back 80 years..................I showed you the KKK & White Supremacists endorsed YOUR PAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, Moron.

You keep losing.

Those are satirical endorsements.

Good one. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :itsok:

biden, is he still pals with top KKK leaders since old byrd died
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.



1. They might have. People do change.

2. And besides, that was 1944 they disbanded. The vast majority of them are dead by now.

3. We have violent mobs rioting from the LEFT rioting almost non stop for the last two years. I would thinks THAT is hte number one domestic terror threat in the US. Teh FBI has been politicized and corrupted by dem partisans.

1. Oh, I’m sure some did...a drop in the proverbial bucket. Most of them just “went into the closet“ when their views were no longer popular in polite society.

2. The Klan isn’t disbanded, Pollyanna. They exist today and happily riot with other Trump supporters.

3. You’ve lost whatever marbles you had left.



1. My parents were FDR era democrats. By the time I knew them, they were in lockstep with the dem party on say, civil rights and teh vietnam war. Unless my understanding of the usa 1930s is way off, they changed during the course of their lives.

2. The Klan(s) that were significant disbanded. The new one is an insignificant fringe, who do very little, other than try to keep mailing lists going.

3. Non-stop riots that are killing people in the streets, are a smaller threat than some people that might do something someday? And I'M the one that has no marbles? LOL!!!! You and the FBI belong in padded rooms.

1. I’m sorry, are you trying to say your parents were racist and then they “grew” out of it?

2. Just because they don’t call themselves the KKK anymore doesn’t mean they ceased to exist.These extremists white supremacy groups are the number one domestic terrorist threat in the IS. Our very own, home grown, terrorists.

3.Yes, you’ve lost your marbles. You’re doing nothing but spouting ridiculous conspiracy theories based on zero evidence.



1. I'm saying people change. Your assumption that everyone who was racist in the past, held firm to those beliefs is wrong.

2. HOw many ws are there in America?

3. LOL!! Says the man calling my concern about mobs killing people in the streets right now, a conspiracy theory without evidence.
1. Yes, people do, but it’s rare.

2. White supremacists don’t often self identify. (They get fired from their jobs)


3. Where are these mobs “killing people right now” exactly?


1. Is it? What makes you think that?

2. I've seen that. A rise in number of organizations could just be how easy it is to organize online. An increase in incidents could be COMPLETELY from a rise in false reports. Do you not find it odd that the left has not compiled a big scary number of how many ws there are in the country?

3. The mobs move around. The deaths are random. I don't know where teh most recent death was, but I know that it was not the last.
1. The fact that very few former racists "come out" as former racists. Change is hard, especially of ingrained beliefs.


Attitudes, particularly racial prejudice, which serves a number of psychological and material functions, often have a basic core that is resistant to change—
2. The rise in incidents "could be" from space aliens, but it's not. The rise in these white supremacist and nationalist groups mirrors what is being observed in other countries as well. They are a bigger threat than the Islamic terrorists that have us undressing at airports.

3. Surprise, surprise, surprise...you making yet another bullshit claim you can't back up. Becoming quite a bad habit with you. Just stop with your ridiculous false equivalency.




1. Who has to "come out"? What is your goal? Public humiliation? Or minds and hearts changing?

2. How many ws are there in this country?

3. The bit where you demand a link for shit you already know or already have an excuse to dismiss, is just a troll tactic and means nothing to me. Stop being a troll.
1. Former racists, duh. To convince others it is okay to leave hatred behind.

2. We don't know. They don't self identify much since they get fired. Sure were a lot at the Trump riot.


3. Making claims you can't back up is a "tell" that your claim is bullshit.
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.

More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.

Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.

No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.

I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.

I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.

So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

This is all pre southern strategy (Lee Atwater), which caused the vast majority of racists to switch parties. The stage was set for this by the earlier dixiecrat movement, and then returned with 1964 civil rights act.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana: died in 1954
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine: died 1961
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine: died 1961
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado: died 1949
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington: died 1957
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon: died 1941
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado: died 1948
DC Stephenson: died 1966


That list was in power WAY before the Dixiecrats, which was two people running in the 1948 election. It would be oversimplification to suggest the infamous Southern Strategy "caused" the majority of racists to switch parties --- those cracks were breaking long before that so it's more accurate to say the Southern Strategy took advantage of those fissures. The last significant wound to the infamous bipolar Democrat "Solid South" was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when Strom Thurmond did what had been unthinkable and switched parties (aprés lui, le deluge). Before that and the more minor strains with the Kennedy Administration, Thurmond had endorsed Eisenhower in 1952, which I believe is why the Democratic Party kicked him off the ballot as he was running for the Senate (he then won that seat as a write-in).

Prior to that was the aforementioned Dixiecrats of 1948, which consisted of Thurmond and Mississippi Governor Fielding Wright, which was generated when Thurmond and fellow travellers heard too much about civil rights at the Democratic convention from the likes of Harry Truman and the young mayor of Minneapolis Hubert Humphrey and walked out to run their own candidate (shades of 1860 when the same thing happened). But the original crack, as far as historical events IMHO dates to 1936, when Franklin Roosevelt, at the height of his influence and about to win a landslide, got the party's Presidential nomination rules changed from a two-thirds majority of the vote to a simple (50% plus one) majority, which cut the knees off the Southern bloc's ability to hold out for its hyperconservative agenda, as it had most dramatically in 1924 when it held up that convention trying to stop the party platform from denouncing the Klan. It became the longest convention in history and required a hundred ballots before it settled on dark horse John W. Davis (who immediately denounced the Klan on his own). The intervening World War II put the regional differences on the back burner until the Dixiecrats erupted.

And then a generation prior to that, at the turn of the century, the Democratic and Republican Parties were essentially swapping constituencies, with the Democrats taking on the interests of minorities, immigrants and labor, while the Republicans cozied up to big business, the wealthy, corporations and Wall Street. That's arguably where the schism really starts, or at least where the seeds are sown.



The Southern Strategy is a debunked myth.


The facts about the Southern strategy
For this fact-check, we interviewed historians and reviewed news articles from the civil rights era.
Joseph Alsop, an influential syndicated newspaper columnist, called it "basically a segregationist strategy" in a 1962 column.
When Republican Barry Goldwater ran for president in 1964, his Southern surrogates played up the fact that he had just voted against the Civil Rights Act. That paid off in the Deep South where he won a handful of states, but he ultimately lost to Lyndon B. Johnson.
By 1968, the Republicans fine-tuned their approach and packaged it in a way they could win, said Maxwell, the Arkansas professor and an expert on southern politics.
Republican nominee Richard Nixon reached out to white Southerners by opposing school busing and promising that his administration would not "ram anything down your throats" and would appoint "strict constructionist" Supreme Court justices.
The strongest evidence of the Southern strategy comes directly from Republicans at the time.
That includes Clarence Townes, who served as director of the Minorities Division of the Republican National Committee in the 1960s. Harvard professor Leah Wright Rigueur wrote about Townes in her book "The Loneliness of the Black Republican."
When Nixon disbanded the division, Townes told reporters in 1970, "There’s a total fear of what’s called the Southern strategy. Blacks understand that their wellbeing is being sacrificed to political gain. There has to be some moral leadership from the president on the race question, and there just hasn’t been any."
In 1969, Nixon White House aide Lamar Alexander, who now represents Tennessee in the U.S. Senate, wrote about the Southern strategy in a memo following the unsuccessful Supreme Court nomination of Clement Haynsworth, who was opposed by civil rights groups.
"SOUTHERN STRATEGY — we flat out invited the kind of political battle that ultimately erupted when we named a Democrat-turned-Republican conservative from South Carolina. This confirmed the Southern strategy just at a time when it was being nationally debated," Alexander wrote.
Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips openly discussed the Southern strategy in a newspaper article in 1973:
"If the New Washington liberal crowd could tear themselves away from Watergate ecstasy and the lionizing of Daniel Ellsberg for a little look-see below the Mason-Dixon line, they might glean a useful political insight, namely that the GOP 'Southern Strategy' seems to be rolling along — and rolling up local victories — just as if G. Gordon Liddy had never existed." (Ellsberg released the Pentagon papers in 1971 while Liddy was an FBI agent convicted of illegal wiretapping.)
Phillips told the New York Times in 1970 that the Republicans were never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the "Negro vote and they don't need any more than that."
"The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans," he wrote. "That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
Ultimately, winning over white Southern voters required using coded language, as campaign consultant Lee Atwater, who worked on Reagan’s 1980 campaign, explained in an interview 1981. In audio, he can be heard describing how in 1954, a racial slur could be used to describe black Americans, but that "backfired" by 1968 — requiring a pivot to use more abstract language.
"So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites," he said.​



Shit like that is why fact checkers have so little credibility.



I read though it looking for the evidence that they offer, adn there isn't any. Just people talking about their opinions on the matter and that is accepted as "proof".


To support the claim of the Southern Strategy, you need to show the GOP offering somethign to the Southern Wacists, something big that caused them to flip.


And there is NOTHIGN in there like that.


it is bullshit.
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.



1. They might have. People do change.

2. And besides, that was 1944 they disbanded. The vast majority of them are dead by now.

3. We have violent mobs rioting from the LEFT rioting almost non stop for the last two years. I would thinks THAT is hte number one domestic terror threat in the US. Teh FBI has been politicized and corrupted by dem partisans.

1. Oh, I’m sure some did...a drop in the proverbial bucket. Most of them just “went into the closet“ when their views were no longer popular in polite society.

2. The Klan isn’t disbanded, Pollyanna. They exist today and happily riot with other Trump supporters.

3. You’ve lost whatever marbles you had left.



1. My parents were FDR era democrats. By the time I knew them, they were in lockstep with the dem party on say, civil rights and teh vietnam war. Unless my understanding of the usa 1930s is way off, they changed during the course of their lives.

2. The Klan(s) that were significant disbanded. The new one is an insignificant fringe, who do very little, other than try to keep mailing lists going.

3. Non-stop riots that are killing people in the streets, are a smaller threat than some people that might do something someday? And I'M the one that has no marbles? LOL!!!! You and the FBI belong in padded rooms.

1. I’m sorry, are you trying to say your parents were racist and then they “grew” out of it?

2. Just because they don’t call themselves the KKK anymore doesn’t mean they ceased to exist.These extremists white supremacy groups are the number one domestic terrorist threat in the IS. Our very own, home grown, terrorists.

3.Yes, you’ve lost your marbles. You’re doing nothing but spouting ridiculous conspiracy theories based on zero evidence.



1. I'm saying people change. Your assumption that everyone who was racist in the past, held firm to those beliefs is wrong.

2. HOw many ws are there in America?

3. LOL!! Says the man calling my concern about mobs killing people in the streets right now, a conspiracy theory without evidence.
1. Yes, people do, but it’s rare.

2. White supremacists don’t often self identify. (They get fired from their jobs)


3. Where are these mobs “killing people right now” exactly?


1. Is it? What makes you think that?

2. I've seen that. A rise in number of organizations could just be how easy it is to organize online. An increase in incidents could be COMPLETELY from a rise in false reports. Do you not find it odd that the left has not compiled a big scary number of how many ws there are in the country?

3. The mobs move around. The deaths are random. I don't know where teh most recent death was, but I know that it was not the last.
1. The fact that very few former racists "come out" as former racists. Change is hard, especially of ingrained beliefs.


Attitudes, particularly racial prejudice, which serves a number of psychological and material functions, often have a basic core that is resistant to change—
2. The rise in incidents "could be" from space aliens, but it's not. The rise in these white supremacist and nationalist groups mirrors what is being observed in other countries as well. They are a bigger threat than the Islamic terrorists that have us undressing at airports.

3. Surprise, surprise, surprise...you making yet another bullshit claim you can't back up. Becoming quite a bad habit with you. Just stop with your ridiculous false equivalency.




1. Who has to "come out"? What is your goal? Public humiliation? Or minds and hearts changing?

2. How many ws are there in this country?

3. The bit where you demand a link for shit you already know or already have an excuse to dismiss, is just a troll tactic and means nothing to me. Stop being a troll.
1. Former racists, duh. To convince others it is okay to leave hatred behind.

2. We don't know. They don't self identify much since they get fired. Sure were a lot at the Trump riot.


3. Making claims you can't back up is a "tell" that your claim is bullshit.



1. Or, they could just be more accepting with time, without a weird Maoist public shaming.

2. You libs have been whining about the supposed "Rise" in ws for quite some time. But you never talk about how many there are. YOu certainly love to call people ws. How many ws are in this country?
 
Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.


Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.


No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.


I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.


Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.


Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.


Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.




Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

The Klan and White Supremacists endorsed Hitlery and Pedo Joe. And I didn't have to go back a century like you, Loser. :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:





As noted upthread, there is no "the KKK" as a unit, and there hasn't been since 1944. So basically you're salivating over your own Composition Fallacy, like a toddler pointing proudly to his turd.

BEFORE that date however, in the aforementioned 1924 and 1928 elections the KKK was indeed an organization, a coordinated and powerful one spread coast-to-coast. It endorsed Coolidge because he was the only POTUS candidate who would not denounce them, and it endorsed Hoover because the Democrat, Al Smith, was a Catholic. In fact KKK ran a national smear campaign against Smith exactly for that reason.

Catholics, you see, like immigrants, like labor and unions, like minorities in general, were Klan targets. They were also constituents of the Democratic Party. And you can review --- or in your case read for the first time ever ---- the end part of post 194 to see why that was.

You keep going back 80 years..................I showed you the KKK & White Supremacists endorsed YOUR PAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, Moron.

You keep losing.


I don't have Presidential candidates, moron.

But I do have this:

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Sorry that that's not from "80 years ago". It's from October 2016. Right about the time Rump was paying off Stormy Daniels.

More recently than that, there was:



If you notice the date, that's from Charlottesville. A "very fine" tweet I'm told.

DAvid Duke???????????????? A clown who never made it past he LA state legislature in the 1980s????????????????

:laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :itsok: :itsok: :itsok:


Yep. But as you see, he made it to Charlottesville.

Know what I find hilarious about David Dookey?

In '16 when Rump was running in Republican primaries for POTUS and Dookey was running in Republican primaries for Senate ----- Dookey had a higher approval rating from Louisiana black voters than Rump had.

:rofl:
 

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