The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.
Just like the fake impeachment evidence.
That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.
This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.
You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.
Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.
Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.
More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.
Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?
No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.
Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.
I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.
I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.
So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.
So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.
Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.
I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.
Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.
That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.
Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.
Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.
And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.
White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says
White supremacist extremists will remain the deadliest domestic terror threat to the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security's first annual homeland threat assessment, which details a range of threats from election interference to unprecedented storms.www.cnn.com
Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.
That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.
There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.
Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.
I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.
Ed Jackson -- Governor, IndianaOwen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, MaineBen Paulen -- Governor, MaineRice Means - Senator, ColoradoAlbert Johnston -- Rep, WashingtonGeorge Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland OregonClarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado
And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.
Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.
Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.
When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.
This is all pre southern strategy (Lee Atwater), which caused the vast majority of racists to switch parties. The stage was set for this by the earlier dixiecrat movement, and then returned with 1964 civil rights act.
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana: died in 1954
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine: died 1961
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine: died 1961
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado: died 1949
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington: died 1957
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon: died 1941
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado: died 1948
DC Stephenson: died 1966
That list was in power WAY before the Dixiecrats, which was two people running in the 1948 election. It would be oversimplification to suggest the infamous Southern Strategy "caused" the majority of racists to switch parties --- those cracks were breaking long before that so it's more accurate to say the Southern Strategy took advantage of those fissures. The last significant wound to the infamous bipolar Democrat "Solid South" was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when Strom Thurmond did what had been unthinkable and switched parties (aprés lui, le deluge). Before that and the more minor strains with the Kennedy Administration, Thurmond had endorsed Eisenhower in 1952, which I believe is why the Democratic Party kicked him off the ballot as he was running for the Senate (he then won that seat as a write-in).
Prior to that was the aforementioned Dixiecrats of 1948, which consisted of Thurmond and Mississippi Governor Fielding Wright, which was generated when Thurmond and fellow travellers heard too much about civil rights at the Democratic convention from the likes of Harry Truman and the young mayor of Minneapolis Hubert Humphrey and walked out to run their own candidate (shades of 1860 when the same thing happened). But the original crack, as far as historical events IMHO dates to 1936, when Franklin Roosevelt, at the height of his influence and about to win a landslide, got the party's Presidential nomination rules changed from a two-thirds majority of the vote to a simple (50% plus one) majority, which cut the knees off the Southern bloc's ability to hold out for its hyperconservative agenda, as it had most dramatically in 1924 when it held up that convention trying to stop the party platform from denouncing the Klan. It became the longest convention in history and required a hundred ballots before it settled on dark horse John W. Davis (who immediately denounced the Klan on his own). The intervening World War II put the regional differences on the back burner until the Dixiecrats erupted.
And then a generation prior to that, at the turn of the century, the Democratic and Republican Parties were essentially swapping constituencies, with the Democrats taking on the interests of minorities, immigrants and labor, while the Republicans cozied up to big business, the wealthy, corporations and Wall Street. That's arguably where the schism really starts, or at least where the seeds are sown.
The Southern Strategy is a debunked myth.
Candace Owens wrong about Southern strategy
During a congressional hearing on hate crimes, conservative African American commentator Candace Owens said that the Repwww.politifact.comThe facts about the Southern strategyFor this fact-check, we interviewed historians and reviewed news articles from the civil rights era.Joseph Alsop, an influential syndicated newspaper columnist, called it "basically a segregationist strategy" in a 1962 column.When Republican Barry Goldwater ran for president in 1964, his Southern surrogates played up the fact that he had just voted against the Civil Rights Act. That paid off in the Deep South where he won a handful of states, but he ultimately lost to Lyndon B. Johnson.By 1968, the Republicans fine-tuned their approach and packaged it in a way they could win, said Maxwell, the Arkansas professor and an expert on southern politics.Republican nominee Richard Nixon reached out to white Southerners by opposing school busing and promising that his administration would not "ram anything down your throats" and would appoint "strict constructionist" Supreme Court justices.The strongest evidence of the Southern strategy comes directly from Republicans at the time.That includes Clarence Townes, who served as director of the Minorities Division of the Republican National Committee in the 1960s. Harvard professor Leah Wright Rigueur wrote about Townes in her book "The Loneliness of the Black Republican."When Nixon disbanded the division, Townes told reporters in 1970, "There’s a total fear of what’s called the Southern strategy. Blacks understand that their wellbeing is being sacrificed to political gain. There has to be some moral leadership from the president on the race question, and there just hasn’t been any."In 1969, Nixon White House aide Lamar Alexander, who now represents Tennessee in the U.S. Senate, wrote about the Southern strategy in a memo following the unsuccessful Supreme Court nomination of Clement Haynsworth, who was opposed by civil rights groups."SOUTHERN STRATEGY — we flat out invited the kind of political battle that ultimately erupted when we named a Democrat-turned-Republican conservative from South Carolina. This confirmed the Southern strategy just at a time when it was being nationally debated," Alexander wrote.Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips openly discussed the Southern strategy in a newspaper article in 1973:"If the New Washington liberal crowd could tear themselves away from Watergate ecstasy and the lionizing of Daniel Ellsberg for a little look-see below the Mason-Dixon line, they might glean a useful political insight, namely that the GOP 'Southern Strategy' seems to be rolling along — and rolling up local victories — just as if G. Gordon Liddy had never existed." (Ellsberg released the Pentagon papers in 1971 while Liddy was an FBI agent convicted of illegal wiretapping.)Phillips told the New York Times in 1970 that the Republicans were never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the "Negro vote and they don't need any more than that.""The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans," he wrote. "That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."Ultimately, winning over white Southern voters required using coded language, as campaign consultant Lee Atwater, who worked on Reagan’s 1980 campaign, explained in an interview 1981. In audio, he can be heard describing how in 1954, a racial slur could be used to describe black Americans, but that "backfired" by 1968 — requiring a pivot to use more abstract language."So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites," he said.
Shit like that is why fact checkers have so little credibility.
I read though it looking for the evidence that they offer, adn there isn't any. Just people talking about their opinions on the matter and that is accepted as "proof".
To support the claim of the Southern Strategy, you need to show the GOP offering somethign to the Southern Wacists, something big that caused them to flip.
And there is NOTHIGN in there like that.
it is bullshit.
GOP platforms:
In 1960, a lengthy, detailed section on civil rights. Paragraphs and paragraphs.
Republican Party Platform of 1960 | The American Presidency Project
www.presidency.ucsb.edu
In 1964, only a few lines. Short enough to post...
Republican Party Platform of 1964 | The American Presidency Project
www.presidency.ucsb.edu
full implementation and faithful execution of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and all other civil rights statutes, to assure equal rights and opportunities guaranteed by the Constitution to every citizen;—improvements of civil rights statutes adequate to changing needs of our times;
By 1968, no mention of civil rights AT ALL. Zero, zip, zilch.
Republican Party Platform of 1968 | The American Presidency Project
www.presidency.ucsb.edu
Well, good for you. You actually went looking to see what you could find, to see what Nixon gave to the supposed "southern wacists" in order to buy their support as per the Southern Strategy.
Less discussion of Civil Rights, really doesn't fit the bill.
This was 1968. ALL the voters of the South had grown up under Jim Crow. LESS focus on discussing Civil Rights is pretty weak ass tea to support the grandiose claims of hte Southern Strategy.