Today’s GOP - Censure Those Who Convicted Trump But Not Klan Leaders

[marvin martian]

The Democrats are the Party of the KKK.

Bullshit. The KKK never had a "party".

Oh, yes it does. You people started it and still own it.

 

[excalibur]

The NY Times Retracts the Sicknick Story | RealClearPolitics


The fakery of that fake headline has already been debunked, Fingerboy. It's all about reading comprehension, or in this case lack thereof. There's no "retraction", the original wording stands.
Why don't you go find some "newly discovered photos".

Yes, the NY Times has retracted that Sicknick was killed with blunt force trauma. CNN retracted on Feb. 2 and it took the Times nearly two weeks to catch up to CNN.

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According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.​

Investigators struggle to build murder case in death of US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick | CNN Politics

Investigators are struggling to build a federal murder case regarding fallen US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, vexed by a lack of evidence that could prove someone caused his death as he defended the Capitol during last month's insurrection.

www.cnn.com

 

[excalibur]

Bullshit. The KKK never had a "party".

LOL

Your historical ignorance is large. The KKK was the paramilitary arm of the Democratic Party.

Democrats, the Party of slavery, the Civil War, Lincoln's assassination, Black Codes, Jim Crow, lynchings. And now Joe Biden, who says blacks don't know how to get on the internet.

 

[Pogo]

The Democrats are the Party of the KKK.

Bullshit. The KKK never had a "party".

Oh, yes it does. You people started it and still own it.

Edumacation for Dumbfucks, 101.

First of all I'm not an ex-Confederate soldier born between 1839 and 1841 so I'm not one of "you people".

The KKK was conceived and founded as a social group along the lines of a college fraternity, and took their name directly from such a fraternity called Kuklos Adelphon, Christmas of 1865 in a building at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee, by six bored ex-soldiers in their mid-20s, using some of the fraternity hazing rituals and silly names for their imaginary band of pranksters, NONE of whom had a political party affiliation, in a time and place where political parties didn't even exist anyway. And their purpose had nothing to do with either race or politics.

Want their names? Here ya go, in alpha order.
(Maj) James Crowe, Calvin Jones (whose father had a law office in that building), (Capt) John Booker Kennedy, (Capt) John Lester, (Maj) Frank O. McCord and Richard R. Reed. Want their picture? Again here ya go.

All except that guy with the flute second from left bottom row. We don't know who that is, presumably they needed a flautist, but that's Kennedy with the violin, I believe that's McCord with the other violin on the left, I'd have to look it up to be sure who's who among the rest.

Now I AM a musician, so in that sense I could be one of those "you people". Is that what you mean?

Now that's the original Klan, which officially dissolved about three years later. The much larger Klan, the one with the burning crosses, was the re-formed group founded Thanksgiving night of 1915 at Stone Mountain Georgia, where the first Klan cross was burned and the organization re-formed under a bible, an unsheathed sword and an American flag, by one William Joseph "Colonel Joe" Simmons, a defrocked Methodist minister, salesman and con artist, who was looking to (and did) make money by starting a real Klan like the one in the film of that year "Birth of a Nation" that people could join for a fee of course, which went into his pocket.

Simmons too had no known political affiliation. And testifying before Congress described it as a fraternal organization and "non-political". That Klan officially disbanded in 1944, April 23 to be exact, when the IRS slapped it with a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill while the Governor of Georgia (Ellis Arnall) revoked its charter to exist.

There was a third guy who made noises about starting a third Klan just after WW2 named Samuel Green. He kind of balked when the IRS told him he'd be responsible for that back tax bill, and then fortunately keeled over and kicked the bucket from a heart attack in 1949 and that was the end of that.

Green too had --- all together now --- no known political affiliation.

Go ahead, I gave you names, dates, places, the whole shebang. Just try to prove anything there wrong.

 

[excalibur]

... Go ahead, I gave you names, dates, places, the whole shebang. Just try to prove anything there wrong.

LOL

One moment, please...

 

[excalibur]

... Go ahead, I gave you names, dates, places, the whole shebang. Just try to prove anything there wrong.

LOL

One moment, please...

Yes Pogo, you would find that funny. Facts.

 

[Pogo]

... Go ahead, I gave you names, dates, places, the whole shebang. Just try to prove anything there wrong.

LOL

One moment, please...

This is just TOO FUNNY to be true.

What you have here, moron, is the SAME bullshit blog post I continuously mock Fingerboy ( bripat9643 ) who fell for the same shit and didn't bother to vet it either. He too posted a thread, couple of years ago, claiming this was a "newly discovered photo" of the 1924 Democratic convention. On trolley tracks. In the rain.

Actually that's a Klan funeral march for a slain policeman and it's in Madison Wisconsin --- it IS in 1924 but it's in December, a month after the fucking election was over. And the picture has been sitting in the Wisconsin Historical Society archives for ninety-seven years.

Yet another mythology I won't need to research, thanks.

Both parties' political conventions in 1924 featured controversial debates about whether each party would denounce the KKK by name. The Republican one in Cleveland was an easy Klan win, the Democratic one was stretched out by rival factions arguing about it and competing candidates for each side. The KKK supported Californian William Gibbs McAdoo. On the anti-Klan plank side were Sen. Oscatr Underwood (D-AL) and Al Smith, Governor of New York, who would be the party's POTUS candidate in 1928. The plank was defeated by a single vote, and the ongoing deadlock among candidates, producing the longest political convention in history, finally settled on dark horse John W. Davis of West Virginia ---- who immediatley denounced the Klan on his own.

That's why the KKK endorsed Calvin Coolidge that year, Dumbass --- he was the only candidate who wouldn't denounce them. And that same Klan ran a national smear campaign against Smith four years later because he was a Catholic, ALL OF WHICH I ALREADY POSTED IN THIS SAME THREAD, SHIT-FOR-BRAINS. All you had to do was READ it.

NEITHER convention was popularly called the "Klanbake" (D) or the "Konvokation in Kleveland (R) until long after they happened. That's a contemporary mythology.

Where the FUCK do you come up with this ridiculous shit? Wet trolley tracks in the rain in Wisconsin, a political convention, reallly? Fucking REALLY?? You're absolutely pathetic.

 

[excalibur]

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You are one sad individual denying the intertwined history of the KKK and the Democratic Party. Makes me think you are a Klan member.

 

[Concerned American]

Look at where the Trump cult said there was all this so-called "fraud," which, of course, was non-existent

• Milwaukee - Mainly black voters
• Detroit - Mostly black voters
• Philadelphia - Mostly black voters
• Atlanta - Mostly black voters

Tonterias!

 

[Pogo]

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You are one sad individual denying the intertwined history of the KKK and the Democratic Party. Makes me think you are a Klan member.

CLEARLY there is NOTHING that makes you "think". I doubt you can even pronounce the word.

Holy SHIT, a political convention on fucking trolley tracks in the rain in December in Wisconsin. UNreal. You're a sad sad case.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Is anyone really surprised?

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Good point, perhaps you can go back to 1989 and ask them why they didn't censure David Duke, and why in 2021 they censured bill Cassady.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Is anyone really surprised?

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Good point, perhaps you can go back to 1989 and ask them why they didn't censure David Duke, and why in 2021 they censured bill Cassady.

Also, democrats held a senate majority in 1989.

 

[Correll]

Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.

The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.

That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.

republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.

Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.



More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.


Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?

Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.

No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.

I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.


I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.


So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.

I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.

Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.

Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.

White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says

White supremacist extremists will remain the deadliest domestic terror threat to the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security's first annual homeland threat assessment, which details a range of threats from election interference to unprecedented storms.

www.cnn.com

Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.

The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​

Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​

Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​

Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​

Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​

George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​

Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.

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Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

The Klan and White Supremacists endorsed Hitlery and Pedo Joe. And I didn't have to go back a century like you, Loser.

KKK grand dragon endorses Hillary Clinton for president

Hillary Clinton is working hard to consolidate support during a tougher-than-expected Democratic primary, but there’s one backer she may wish to back away from: a Ku Klux Klan grand dragon.

www.foxnews.com

White Supremacist Richard Spencer Endorses Joe Biden

Will media demand Biden disavow like they did with Trump and David Duke?

summit.news

As noted upthread, there is no "the KKK" as a unit, and there hasn't been since 1944. So basically you're salivating over your own Composition Fallacy, like a toddler pointing proudly to his turd.

BEFORE that date however, in the aforementioned 1924 and 1928 elections the KKK was indeed an organization, a coordinated and powerful one spread coast-to-coast. It endorsed Coolidge because he was the only POTUS candidate who would not denounce them, and it endorsed Hoover because the Democrat, Al Smith, was a Catholic. In fact KKK ran a national smear campaign against Smith exactly for that reason.

Catholics, you see, like immigrants, like labor and unions, like minorities in general, were Klan targets. They were also constituents of the Democratic Party. And you can review --- or in your case read for the first time ever ---- the end part of post 194 to see why that was.

You keep going back 80 years..................I showed you the KKK & White Supremacists endorsed YOUR PAST TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, Moron.

You keep losing.

I don't have Presidential candidates, moron.

But I do have this:

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Sorry that that's not from "80 years ago". It's from October 2016. Right about the time Rump was paying off Stormy Daniels.

More recently than that, there was:

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If you notice the date, that's from Charlottesville. A "very fine" tweet I'm told.

DAvid Duke???????????????? A clown who never made it past he LA state legislature in the 1980s????????????????

Yep. But as you see, he made it to Charlottesville.

Know what I find hilarious about David Dookey?

In '16 when Rump was running in Republican primaries for POTUS and Dookey was running in Republican primaries for Senate ----- Dookey had a higher approval rating from Louisiana black voters than Rump had.

You know what I find hilarious? YOu talk like a retarded baby with a mouthful of shit and still expect to be taken seriously.

 

[Eyepublius]

Yes, true pre-Civil War racists were DEMS... then afterwards sides flipped and now the racists are the GOP bigly and more so than in the 1860's... an historical fact - you check that out, too.

DEMS saw the light - REPUBS went into the darkness and remain there to this very day.

 

[Seawytch]

1. Or, they could just be more accepting with time, without a weird Maoist public shaming.

2. You libs have been whining about the supposed "Rise" in ws for quite some time. But you never talk about how many there are. YOu certainly love to call people ws. How many ws are in this country?

1. It's not shameful to be a former racist.

2. It has been reported on. There has been a significant rise in the number of white supremacist/nationalist groups in the United States.

White Supremacy Groups in the United States

This resource provides an overview of the history, propaganda, violent activities, and notable rhetoric of the most active and virulent white supremacist groups in the United States, as well as several prominent white supremacist media outlets.

www.counterextremism.com

What is the benefit to you in denying the existence of these (Almost 200 known groups compromised of untold numbers) extremist groups?

 

[Correll]

1. Or, they could just be more accepting with time, without a weird Maoist public shaming.

2. You libs have been whining about the supposed "Rise" in ws for quite some time. But you never talk about how many there are. YOu certainly love to call people ws. How many ws are in this country?

1. It's not shameful to be a former racist.

2. It has been reported on. There has been a significant rise in the number of white supremacist/nationalist groups in the United States.

White Supremacy Groups in the United States

This resource provides an overview of the history, propaganda, violent activities, and notable rhetoric of the most active and virulent white supremacist groups in the United States, as well as several prominent white supremacist media outlets.

www.counterextremism.com

What is the benefit to you in denying the existence of these (Almost 200 known groups compromised of untold numbers) extremist groups?

1. And again, you demonstrate that actual change is not your goal, humiliating your enemies is.

2. So, no numbers at all, about any real rise in the number of ws. Not even empty unsupported claims. We have no reason to believe there is any rise in the fringe movement.

 

[Seawytch]

Thread title. "GOP today"
O.P subject: A newspaper article from 1989.

Just like the fake impeachment evidence.

The Klan have long been an important voting block for the GOP, the Party would never do anything to alienate that constituency.

That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

This new incarnation of them, is an irrelevant fringe.


You pretend otherwise, to give you an excuse to dehumanize your enemies.


Why do you want to dehumanize your enemies? Historically, that is not something people of good intent do.

republicans want to keep confederate monuments and everything, "my heritage!".
Democrats say losers dont get participation trophies.
Its the Klan who wants the confederate everywhere.
This is why southern strategy happened.

Yes, that is a good example of how you are dehumanizing your enemies.

More and more liberals are admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps.

Are you ready to be honest, or are you still lying?

Please link to these alleged liberals that are "admitting that the end game is mass murder or concentration camps." ...this ought to be good.

No. You know it is true and I can't be bothered. Address the facts.

Actually I don't know that is true and since you, a COVID truther, is the one making the claim, I'm gonna need links, liar.

I'm not a liar. I think by now, you have a sense of how I am a deeply honest person.

I know you don't like that fact. But on some level you know it.

So, knock off the shit. The truth is that you already have a rationalization in place to dismiss the links if I were to waste the time finding the examples.


So, let's just skip to your rationalization and I will address it.

I have no need to rationalize something you made up, liar. Link to all these liberals you claim want to kill you or put you in a concentration camp.

Why? YOu are not going to admit anything. You will just rationalize a reason to dismiss it.

I don't have to since you can't prove it happened.

Whatever. We can go back to my original point then.


That is moronic and not true. The Klan was always an important voting bloc for the DEMs, until they were destroyed.

Nnnno, not really. First off they were not "destroyed". They were officially disbanded, in 1869, and then revived in 1915 which became the much bigger one that spread coast-to-coast, the one that burned the crosses, the one we have all the pictures of. But that Klan, when it dabbled in politics at all (and most of what it did was apolitical), supported or opposed either Democrats or Republicans (or No Party candidates) according to whatever worked in that time and place. It got Republicans elected to high state office in Maine, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, California, Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and it got Democrats elected in the South. In Oregon it got a Democrat Governor and a Republican Mayor of Portland. In Colorado it was the reverse. This latter-day revisionism that it was somehow a political party machine is so much malarkey.

Oh and just to complete the history that second Klan was officially disbanded in 1944. The IRS slapped a 2/3 of a million dollar back tax bill on it and at the same time the Governor of Georgia revoked its charter.

And despite the official organization membership dwindling, the racists didn't stop being racist. They joined militias and other white supremacy groups. We are talking about the number one domestic terrorists threat in the United States.

White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says

White supremacist extremists will remain the deadliest domestic terror threat to the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security's first annual homeland threat assessment, which details a range of threats from election interference to unprecedented storms.

www.cnn.com

Indeed. Everything Klannish since 1944 has been knuckledragger yahoos playing dress-up and going HEY LOOKA ME IMMA KLAN. None had to coordinate with or get licence from any national network.

That's exactly what David Dookey was doing when he dressed up in bedsheets. Playing dress-up. Local dress-up groups didn't coordinate and even fought with each other.

There was another guy, one Samuel Green, who made noises about restarting a THIRD Klan just after World War II. IRS told him "Okay, then you'll assume this 2/3 of a million dollar tax liability", That gave Green pause, but happily he took a heart attack and keeled over in 1949 and that never happened.

The fact the only person you clowns can bring up on the Republican side is a State Representative from LA in the 80s who has been ostracized by the Republican party since then tells everyone you have nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Your party elected a KKK Leader to the US Senate until he went toes up in 2010, Dumbass.

I don't have a "party" nor am I familiar with whoever the reference is but umma give you some names for homework. You want Senators? We got 'em. Gubnors, Reps, Mayors etc. You want names? All you gotta do is ask. Or search, but that might not work out well, might it.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana​

Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine​

Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine​

Rice Means - Senator, Colorado​

Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington​

George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon​

Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado​

And you'll notice once you get to Da Google that all of those were when the KKK actually officially existed.

Oh and don't leave out D.C. Stephenson.... here lemme introduce ya.

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Wasn't that fun? I like how one wag put a 'funny' on it way before he would have had time to read/view all that.

When I get back we'll talk about Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge. Both of whom the Klan endorsed.

This is all pre southern strategy (Lee Atwater), which caused the vast majority of racists to switch parties. The stage was set for this by the earlier dixiecrat movement, and then returned with 1964 civil rights act.

Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana: died in 1954
Owen Brewster -- Governor/Senator, Maine: died 1961
Ben Paulen -- Governor, Maine: died 1961
Rice Means - Senator, Colorado: died 1949
Albert Johnston -- Rep, Washington: died 1957
George Luis Baker -- Mayor, Portland Oregon: died 1941
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado: died 1948
DC Stephenson: died 1966

That list was in power WAY before the Dixiecrats, which was two people running in the 1948 election. It would be oversimplification to suggest the infamous Southern Strategy "caused" the majority of racists to switch parties --- those cracks were breaking long before that so it's more accurate to say the Southern Strategy took advantage of those fissures. The last significant wound to the infamous bipolar Democrat "Solid South" was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when Strom Thurmond did what had been unthinkable and switched parties (aprés lui, le deluge). Before that and the more minor strains with the Kennedy Administration, Thurmond had endorsed Eisenhower in 1952, which I believe is why the Democratic Party kicked him off the ballot as he was running for the Senate (he then won that seat as a write-in).

Prior to that was the aforementioned Dixiecrats of 1948, which consisted of Thurmond and Mississippi Governor Fielding Wright, which was generated when Thurmond and fellow travellers heard too much about civil rights at the Democratic convention from the likes of Harry Truman and the young mayor of Minneapolis Hubert Humphrey and walked out to run their own candidate (shades of 1860 when the same thing happened). But the original crack, as far as historical events IMHO dates to 1936, when Franklin Roosevelt, at the height of his influence and about to win a landslide, got the party's Presidential nomination rules changed from a two-thirds majority of the vote to a simple (50% plus one) majority, which cut the knees off the Southern bloc's ability to hold out for its hyperconservative agenda, as it had most dramatically in 1924 when it held up that convention trying to stop the party platform from denouncing the Klan. It became the longest convention in history and required a hundred ballots before it settled on dark horse John W. Davis (who immediately denounced the Klan on his own). The intervening World War II put the regional differences on the back burner until the Dixiecrats erupted.

And then a generation prior to that, at the turn of the century, the Democratic and Republican Parties were essentially swapping constituencies, with the Democrats taking on the interests of minorities, immigrants and labor, while the Republicans cozied up to big business, the wealthy, corporations and Wall Street. That's arguably where the schism really starts, or at least where the seeds are sown.

The Southern Strategy is a debunked myth.

Candace Owens wrong about Southern strategy

During a congressional hearing on hate crimes, conservative African American commentator Candace Owens said that the Rep

www.politifact.com

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The facts about the Southern strategy​

For this fact-check, we interviewed historians and reviewed news articles from the civil rights era.​

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Joseph Alsop, an influential syndicated newspaper columnist, called it "basically a segregationist strategy" in a 1962 column.​

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When Republican Barry Goldwater ran for president in 1964, his Southern surrogates played up the fact that he had just voted against the Civil Rights Act. That paid off in the Deep South where he won a handful of states, but he ultimately lost to Lyndon B. Johnson.​

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By 1968, the Republicans fine-tuned their approach and packaged it in a way they could win, said Maxwell, the Arkansas professor and an expert on southern politics.​

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Republican nominee Richard Nixon reached out to white Southerners by opposing school busing and promising that his administration would not "ram anything down your throats" and would appoint "strict constructionist" Supreme Court justices.​

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The strongest evidence of the Southern strategy comes directly from Republicans at the time.​

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That includes Clarence Townes, who served as director of the Minorities Division of the Republican National Committee in the 1960s. Harvard professor Leah Wright Rigueur wrote about Townes in her book "The Loneliness of the Black Republican."​

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When Nixon disbanded the division, Townes told reporters in 1970, "There’s a total fear of what’s called the Southern strategy. Blacks understand that their wellbeing is being sacrificed to political gain. There has to be some moral leadership from the president on the race question, and there just hasn’t been any."​

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In 1969, Nixon White House aide Lamar Alexander, who now represents Tennessee in the U.S. Senate, wrote about the Southern strategy in a memo following the unsuccessful Supreme Court nomination of Clement Haynsworth, who was opposed by civil rights groups.​

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"SOUTHERN STRATEGY — we flat out invited the kind of political battle that ultimately erupted when we named a Democrat-turned-Republican conservative from South Carolina. This confirmed the Southern strategy just at a time when it was being nationally debated," Alexander wrote.​

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Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips openly discussed the Southern strategy in a newspaper article in 1973:​

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"If the New Washington liberal crowd could tear themselves away from Watergate ecstasy and the lionizing of Daniel Ellsberg for a little look-see below the Mason-Dixon line, they might glean a useful political insight, namely that the GOP 'Southern Strategy' seems to be rolling along — and rolling up local victories — just as if G. Gordon Liddy had never existed." (Ellsberg released the Pentagon papers in 1971 while Liddy was an FBI agent convicted of illegal wiretapping.)​

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Phillips told the New York Times in 1970 that the Republicans were never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the "Negro vote and they don't need any more than that."​

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"The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans," he wrote. "That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."​

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Ultimately, winning over white Southern voters required using coded language, as campaign consultant Lee Atwater, who worked on Reagan’s 1980 campaign, explained in an interview 1981. In audio, he can be heard describing how in 1954, a racial slur could be used to describe black Americans, but that "backfired" by 1968 — requiring a pivot to use more abstract language.​

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"So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites," he said.​

Shit like that is why fact checkers have so little credibility.



I read though it looking for the evidence that they offer, adn there isn't any. Just people talking about their opinions on the matter and that is accepted as "proof".


To support the claim of the Southern Strategy, you need to show the GOP offering somethign to the Southern Wacists, something big that caused them to flip.


And there is NOTHIGN in there like that.


it is bullshit.

GOP platforms:
In 1960, a lengthy, detailed section on civil rights. Paragraphs and paragraphs.

Republican Party Platform of 1960 | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

In 1964, only a few lines. Short enough to post...

Republican Party Platform of 1964 | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

full implementation and faithful execution of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and all other civil rights statutes, to assure equal rights and opportunities guaranteed by the Constitution to every citizen;​

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—improvements of civil rights statutes adequate to changing needs of our times;​

By 1968, no mention of civil rights AT ALL. Zero, zip, zilch.

Republican Party Platform of 1968 | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

 

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Is anyone really surprised?

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Nope.

 

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That's where the GOP is right now.

I guess it has to hit rock bottom before it can turn around.

Look at the dates in your own sources! Sixteen years passed!

Some things certainly don't change much.

 

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1. Or, they could just be more accepting with time, without a weird Maoist public shaming.

2. You libs have been whining about the supposed "Rise" in ws for quite some time. But you never talk about how many there are. YOu certainly love to call people ws. How many ws are in this country?

1. It's not shameful to be a former racist.

2. It has been reported on. There has been a significant rise in the number of white supremacist/nationalist groups in the United States.

White Supremacy Groups in the United States

This resource provides an overview of the history, propaganda, violent activities, and notable rhetoric of the most active and virulent white supremacist groups in the United States, as well as several prominent white supremacist media outlets.

www.counterextremism.com

What is the benefit to you in denying the existence of these (Almost 200 known groups compromised of untold numbers) extremist groups?

1. And again, you demonstrate that actual change is not your goal, humiliating your enemies is.

2. So, no numbers at all, about any real rise in the number of ws. Not even empty unsupported claims. We have no reason to believe there is any rise in the fringe movement.

1. It's quite telling that you believe being a former racist is humiliating.
2. Except all the Law Enforcement agencies saying there is a rise.

We've already discussed (you dismissed) the FBI, but what about the State Department?

White supremacist terrorism 'on the rise and spreading,' State Dept. says in new report

The threat of racially or ethnically motivated terrorism, especially white supremacist terrorism, is "on the rise and spreading geographically," according to a new report

abcnews.go.com

Homeland Security?

White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says

White supremacist extremists will remain the deadliest domestic terror threat to the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security's first annual homeland threat assessment, which details a range of threats from election interference to unprecedented storms.

www.cnn.com

Are they all in on this conspiracy theory that you can't explain the reason for? What reason would they have to make it up?

Again, what is the benefit to you to deny the rise of these extremists groups?