Trump-Bashers! I Challenge You!

[protectionist]

What? You won't address my post because you said it was off-topic. Now I'm cutting and running? You are seriously fucked up dude.

When it's off topic, it SHOULDN'T be addressed You want to get you post addressed ? Fine. Make it ON TOPIC.

FCT did that in Post # 35, and he got his post addressed in Post # 58. You could too, if your post wasn't so "seriously fucked up"

 

[WinterBorn]

"Off Topic!" Is his favorite reply.

when it applies. Of course.

You try and create threads with a very narrow range, then throw hissy fits when everyone doesn't play.

 

[PredFan]

Nah, my phone doesn't list the numbers and I'm too lazy to count them. This discussion isn't really worth the work. Good luck with your thread.

Cut and run. No problem.

What? You won't address my post because you said it was off-topic. Now I'm cutting and running? You are seriously fucked up dude.

When it's off topic, it SHOULDN'T be addressed You want to get you post addressed ? Fine. Make it ON TOPIC. FCT did that in Post # , and he got his post addressed in Post # 58. You could too if your post wasn't so "seriously fucked up"

So, you admit you were wrong accusing me of cutting and running then. Fine. Again, good luck with your thread.

 

[g5000]

So there you have it.

1) Trump believed Hillary Clinton will make a great President.

2) Trump believed Bill Clinton was a great President.

3) Trump believed Bush was the worst President in the history of the US. He believed Bush deliberately lied about WMDs to get us into a war with Iraq.

4) Trump believed there were no WMDs in Iraq.

5) Trump believed the US should cut and run from Iraq.

6) Trump believed Bush should be impeached for lying to get us into the war.

7) Trump was "very pro-choice".

8) Pro socialized medicine.

9) Pro big government.

10) Big contributor to, and supporter of, the Clintons.


Any time, anywhere, there was a left wing talking point to discuss, Donald Trump was right there in the ranks with them. EVERY TIME!!!

This is whose cock you dumb rubes have been sucking. This is the GOP front runner.

WAKE UP, RUBES!

OFF TOPIC!

Nope. The overarching issue is to prove Trump stood on the left wing Democratic side until a few months ago. I proved that, in spades.

I listed 18 issues.

Yes, you listed 18 issues which a casino owner who is not an elected official would not have a record on. It is like asking for evidence of Trump's opinion on the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics.

You wanted to preserve your delusions. We get it.

However, wherever and whenever Trump DID speak on political matters, it was ALWAYS from the left wing perspective.

Always.

You lose. Time to wake up to the fact Trump is a far left wing Democrat, you willfully blind sap.

 

[protectionist]

In other words, you cherry picked the question. Whoa, that's really going out on a limb, you dare-devil, you.
That is called a closed-mind and makes this thread a fucking joke.
No balls, no glory, wimp!

Off Topic ^^^

Any time ANY poster asks a question they cherry pick it, by asking the question they want to ask. I included EIGHTEEN ISSUES in my OP. That's a lot of cherries....dumbass.

 

[PredFan]

So there you have it.

1) Trump believed Hillary Clinton will make a great President.

2) Trump believed Bill Clinton was a great President.

3) Trump believed Bush was the worst President in the history of the US. He believed Bush deliberately lied about WMDs to get us into a war with Iraq.

4) Trump believed there were no WMDs in Iraq.

5) Trump believed the US should cut and run from Iraq.

6) Trump believed Bush should be impeached for lying to get us into the war.

7) Trump was "very pro-choice".

8) Pro socialized medicine.

9) Pro big government.

10) Big contributor to, and supporter of, the Clintons.


Any time, anywhere, there was a left wing talking point to discuss, Donald Trump was right there in the ranks with them. EVERY TIME!!!

This is whose cock you dumb rubes have been sucking. This is the GOP front runner.

WAKE UP, RUBES!

OFF TOPIC!

Nope. The overarching issue is to prove Trump stood on the left wing Democratic side until a few months ago. I proved that, in spades.

I listed 18 issues.

Yes, you listed 18 issues which a casino owner who is not an elected official will not have a record on. You wanted to preserve your delusions. We get it.

However, wherever and whenever Trump DID speak on political matters, it was ALWAYS from the left wing perspective.

Always.

You lose. Time to wake up to the fact Trump is a far left wing Democrat.

Disagree. He is in fact a power hungry egomaniac who can switch his beliefs and opinions to whichever way best serves him. It served him to be in the Democrat side then, it serves him to be on the republican side now. He only believes in himself and his goals.

 

[protectionist]

So, you admit you were wrong accusing me of cutting and running then. Fine. Again, good luck with your thread.

I did no such thing. You cut and ran, faggot. You're a gutless coward. At least FCT stood up and took his beating (in post # 58) like a man. You were to chicken shit to do that.

 

[protectionist]

Disagree. He is in fact a power hungry egomaniac who can switch his beliefs and opinions to whichever way best serves him. It served him to be in the Democrat side then, it serves him to be on the republican side now. He only believes in himself and his goals.

Yeah ? So you're saying then that you are the same as those people I talked about in the OP who say this ? >>

"it is only in the last 6 months or so, that he has come out with Conservative policies (right in time for the 2016 election campaign)."

Got guts enough to answer this ?

 

[Londoner]

Trumps views on China harken back to the old protectionist view of Trade when great Presidents like Truman and Eisenhower defended the American worker against freedom-hating tyrannies offering cheap labor.

Reagan ended our great postwar trade policies, preferring instead to free capital to roam the globe for the cheapest operating conditions. The result was a decimated middle class (which was fraudulently "repaired" by the Credit Industrial Complex. Indeed, we called it Morning In America, but it was fueled by MasterCard Visa, American Express and predatory mortgage financing. We traded shopping malls for factories, and built a faux Credit Democracy where shiny plastic credit cards replaced wages, and health care was converted into a parasitic monopoly that served only the rentier class ... and infrastructure was left to rot).

Trump sounds more like the moderate Republicans of my father's era, before a Hollywood actor destroyed the party along with the middle class.

 

[protectionist]

Yes, you listed 18 issues which a casino owner who is not an elected official will not have a record on. It is like asking for evidence of Trump's opinion on the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics.
You wanted to preserve your delusions. We get it.
However, wherever and whenever Trump DID speak on political matters, it was ALWAYS from the left wing perspective.
Always.
You lose. Time to wake up to the fact Trump is a far left wing Democrat, you willfully blind sap.

What you proved is that you could be refuted 18 times in one Post (Post # 58)

But if you wish to try to cover it up, by your way out of it, that's your perogative. You got refuted BIG TIME, and YOU KNOW it.

 

[protectionist]

Trumps views on China harken back to the old protectionist view of Trade when great Presidents like Truman and Eisenhower defended the American worker against freedom-hating tyrannies offering cheap labor.

Reagan ended our great postwar trade policies, preferring instead to free capital to roam the globe for the cheapest operating conditions. The result was a decimated middle class (which was fraudulently "repaired" by the Credit Industrial Complex. Indeed, Morning In America fueled by MasterCard Visa, American Express and predatory mortgage financing. A faux Credit Democracy where shiny plastic credit cards replaced wages and health care was converted into a dysfunctional monopoly that served only shareholders ... and infrastructure was left to rot).

Trump sounds more like the moderate Republicans of my father's era, before a Hollywood actor destroyed the party along with the middle class.

EXCELLENT POST. And what a breath of fresh air of knowledge and truth, in contrast to the dum dums who have been polluting the thread with BS up to now.

Just to add to what you were saying, Reagan also undid all the good that Eisenhower did with Operation Wetback, deporting 2-3 million illegal aliens, by giving 3 million of them amnesty, in 1986, adding more to the foreign cheap labor stab in the back to the American worker. Immigration - AKA DOMESTIC outsourcing.

 

[amrchaos]

I get it

You want us Trump bashers to prove he is not a conservative based on what he has campaigned on!!

I can't...I have to dig up his past and claim what he said then is his belief, not what he says now.

I see how that is flawed. What he may have believed a few months ago may not be what he believes now.

I need to find where he contradicts himself at present to prove he is not a conservative.

I currently have nothing. Excuse me while I bunny hop away.

 

[PredFan]

So, you admit you were wrong accusing me of cutting and running then. Fine. Again, good luck with your thread.

I did no such thing. You cut and ran, faggot. You're a gutless coward. At least FCT stood up and took his beating (in post # 58) like a man. You were to chicken shit to do that.

And you have proven yourself too stupid to talk to.

 

[PredFan]

Disagree. He is in fact a power hungry egomaniac who can switch his beliefs and opinions to whichever way best serves him. It served him to be in the Democrat side then, it serves him to be on the republican side now. He only believes in himself and his goals.

Yeah ? So you're saying then that you are the same as those people I talked about in the OP who say this ? >>

"it is only in the last 6 months or so, that he has come out with Conservative policies (right in time for the 2016 election campaign)."

Got guts enough to answer this ?

Forget it. You are too stupid to talk to.

 

[g5000]

Yes, you listed 18 issues which a casino owner who is not an elected official will not have a record on. It is like asking for evidence of Trump's opinion on the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics.
You wanted to preserve your delusions. We get it.
However, wherever and whenever Trump DID speak on political matters, it was ALWAYS from the left wing perspective.
Always.
You lose. Time to wake up to the fact Trump is a far left wing Democrat, you willfully blind sap.

What you proved is that you could be refuted 18 times in one Post (Post # 58)

But if you wish to try to cover it up, by your way out of it, that's your perogative. You got refuted BIG TIME, and YOU KNOW it.

RUBE: Prove to me this man is crazy by showing me the time he swallowed razor blades.

G5000: Here is evidence the man eats his own poop and barks at the moon.

RUBE: Off topic! If you can't show me he swallowed razor blades, then he must be sane.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

OK. Trump bashers. If you think your arguments can hold up to intense scrutiny, here's your chance to prove it. It's now or never. Accept my challenge, or cut and run like scared rabbits. Fight or flight.

This is for the conservatives who say that Trump is not a Conservative, and whose policies have been liberal, and it is only in the last 6 months or so, that he has come out with Conservative policies (right in time for the 2016 election campaign).

Is that what you think ? I've heard lots of people saying that. Well, here is a list of issues, and what do you say about them ? Is Trump just a 2015/2016 "conservative", or not ? Step up to the plate.

Issues

1. Gun control

2. Same-sex marriage.

3. Taxes

4. Death penalty

5. Domestic drilling

6. China

7. Obamacare

8. Military strength

9. Immigration

10. Mexican border fence/wall

11. Foreign job stealers

12. Political insiders

13. Cyber-warfare

14. Israel

15. Iran nuclear program

16. North Korea

17. Welfare

18. Terrorism

Half of the shit on your list has had him on 2 or more different sides. The other half of your list he has offered his ideas, which by the way change or get denied depending on who's doing the interview.

You like Trump, fine. I think he is a pompous conceited ass. I'm not going to bother fine tuning the points as Trump supporters don't care and any discussion will end with insults & name calling. I know cause I've created threads showing the two faces of Trump and that's how every single one of them ended.

If it's Trump vs Hillary I will hold my nose & vote Trump while hoping for the best. That's the last I will say on the matter

 

[ptbw forever]

If Cruz is out of the running before we in Florida get to vote, I will have a decision to make. Do I vote for Trump or Rubio?

Trump is stronger on three things that are important: illegal immigration, Muslim refugees, and the economy.

Cruz is stronger in that I think he will pick a strong conservative SCOTUS judge. I'm not sure at all about Trumps picking ability. I also believe if it's Rubio vs any Dem, Rubio wins. He will win in a landslide against Hillary.

The thing is, to me, the SCOTUS pick is the most important issue we face right now.

Leaning Rubio, but not solid on it yet.

Rubio will not win in a landslide against Hillary, and even if he wins he will just be another Bush when it comes to the issues that actually matter, and that will kill off the Republican Party considering the changing demographics.

Trump is a wildcard, but if he wins, the Republican Party will be forever changed for the better.

Cruz has no prayer of getting the required number of delegates.

 

[protectionist]

I get it

You want us Trump bashers to prove he is not a conservative based on what he has campaigned on!!

I can't...I have to dig up his past and claim what he said then is his belief, not what he says now.

I see how that is flawed. What he may have believed a few months ago may not be what he believes now.

I need to find where he contradicts himself at present to prove he is not a conservative.

I currently have nothing. Excuse me while I bunny hop away.

You're excused.

 

[protectionist]

And you have proven yourself too stupid to talk to.

Not a very good cover for cowardice. Not very credible. Try again.

 

[protectionist]

Half of the shit on your list has had him on 2 or more different sides. The other half of your list he has offered his ideas, which by the way change or get denied depending on who's doing the interview.

You like Trump, fine. I think he is a pompous conceited ass. I'm not going to bother fine tuning the points as Trump supporters don't care and any discussion will end with insults & name calling. I know cause I've created threads showing the two faces of Trump and that's how every single one of them ended.

If it's Trump vs Hillary I will hold my nose & vote Trump while hoping for the best. That's the last I will say on the matter

No. Same sides - all 18.

But the ideas are NOT changed. They are the same.

If Trump is a pompous, conceited ass, I don't care. The President of the US is getting paid to lead the country and PROTECT it. If he does that, fine. He'll be the first one in a long time.