Trump Caves on Iran Nuclear Deal

[brummelben]

Well put.

Better put than your argument which seems to be struggleing at the moment. Of course this is why you skipped my response to you and opted to respond here.

Tell us just what you would do with this agreement, keep it, change it, cancel it?

My point is simple. It doesn't matter what we do, they'll still have a weapon in the same amount of time.

No they will not

Months to a year to developer a nuke. 10 years to develope the missile to carry it. The deal lasts for 10 years. The deal is a complete wash.

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

They don't really need to for 10 years, I've explained this already. Trump Caves on Iran Nuclear Deal

They have also gotten rid of centrifuges needed to produce plutonium

You mean in those facilities we aren't allowed to inspect? Some deal.

What facilities aren't we allow to inspect?

US inspectors banned from all Iranian nuclear sites under deal | Daily Mail Online

That is an outright lie

Then I guess hundreds of legit news sites are reporting the same lie. Don't beleive your lying eyes.

 

[vlad_hombre]

My point is simple.

This is true.

 

[brummelben]

They have also gotten rid of centrifuges needed to produce plutonium

You mean in those facilities we aren't allowed to inspect? Some deal.

What facilities aren't we allow to inspect?

US inspectors banned from all Iranian nuclear sites under deal | Daily Mail Online

That is an outright lie

Then I guess hundreds of legit news sites are reporting the same lie. Don't beleive your lying eyes.

Who are these legit news sites? I guarantee you made this up. Take a minute and google the facts in POLITIFACT

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

Better put than your argument which seems to be struggleing at the moment. Of course this is why you skipped my response to you and opted to respond here.

Tell us just what you would do with this agreement, keep it, change it, cancel it?

My point is simple. It doesn't matter what we do, they'll still have a weapon in the same amount of time.

No they will not

Months to a year to developer a nuke. 10 years to develope the missile to carry it. The deal lasts for 10 years. The deal is a complete wash.

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

 

[brummelben]

Tell us just what you would do with this agreement, keep it, change it, cancel it?

My point is simple. It doesn't matter what we do, they'll still have a weapon in the same amount of time.

No they will not

Months to a year to developer a nuke. 10 years to develope the missile to carry it. The deal lasts for 10 years. The deal is a complete wash.

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

You mean in those facilities we aren't allowed to inspect? Some deal.

What facilities aren't we allow to inspect?

US inspectors banned from all Iranian nuclear sites under deal | Daily Mail Online

That is an outright lie

Then I guess hundreds of legit news sites are reporting the same lie. Don't beleive your lying eyes.

Who are these legit news sites? I guarantee you made this up. Take a minute and google the facts in POLITIFACT

And politifact even admits that there are Iranian sites that inspectors aren't allowed to monitor and if they want access to those sites they must wait 24 days in which everything can be either moved or covered up. And yes, the United States is not allowed to inspect. But what does it matter. Obama didn't delay Iran from creating a nuclear missile. He delayed them from creating the nuclear warhead itself. Basic math once again rules. See previous posts.

 

[brummelben]

What facilities aren't we allow to inspect?

US inspectors banned from all Iranian nuclear sites under deal | Daily Mail Online

That is an outright lie

Then I guess hundreds of legit news sites are reporting the same lie. Don't beleive your lying eyes.

Who are these legit news sites? I guarantee you made this up. Take a minute and google the facts in POLITIFACT

And politifact even admits that there are Iranian sites that inspectors aren't allowed to monitor and if they want access to those sites they must wait 24 days in which everything can be either moved or covered up. And yes, the United States is not allowed to inspect.

The deal is not based on trust; it’s based on verification. The IAEA will have 24/7 access to Iran’s known nuclear facilities and will be closely monitoring Iran’s supply chain of nuclear materials, centrifuge production lines, and any purchases that might be used for a nuclear program. The deal also provides timely inspections to any undeclared facilities where suspected nuclear activity may be occurring. If Iran does cheat, they will be caught and sanctions will be re-imposed.

There are also aspects of the deal that Iran can’t easily undo. Iran must dismantle two-thirds of its installed centrifuges, remove 98% of its uranium stockpile, and permanently alter the Arak Plutonium reactor before it receives any relief from economic sanctions. These actions will be verified by the IAEA and will greatly increase the time it would take Iran to obtain weapons-grade nuclear material.

The deal goes to great lengths to buttress major points of the agreement. For example, the deal does not just put limitations on centrifuge production, it also puts limitations on rotor production, and on the machines that make the rotors. The subsidiary commitments that Iran has made for the agreement are truly impressive.

Rejecting this deal means no restrictions, no verification, and no inspections of Iran’s nuclear program. Even if Iran cheats, we’ll know far more about Iran’s nuclear activities than we do now. And that will mean that all of the alternatives—including the least desirable, military action—will be more effective.

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

My point is simple. It doesn't matter what we do, they'll still have a weapon in the same amount of time.

No they will not

Months to a year to developer a nuke. 10 years to develope the missile to carry it. The deal lasts for 10 years. The deal is a complete wash.

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

 

[brummelben]

No they will not

Months to a year to developer a nuke. 10 years to develope the missile to carry it. The deal lasts for 10 years. The deal is a complete wash.

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

Lets ask again, what would you do?

 

[vlad_hombre]

Math is hard.

Logic is even harder.

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

Months to a year to developer a nuke. 10 years to develope the missile to carry it. The deal lasts for 10 years. The deal is a complete wash.

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

Lets ask again, what would you do?

Ramp up sanctions again and unleash Israel if they ask.

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

Math is hard.

Logic is even harder.

I always figured they could be one in the same.

 

[brummelben]

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

Lets ask again, what would you do?

Ramp up sanctions again and unleash Israel if they ask.

Looking for a war? Iran has lived up to the terms of the agreement, but in your infinite wisdom, that wouldn't be good enough. People far smarter than you or I are firmly behind this agreement

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

Lets ask again, what would you do?

Ramp up sanctions again and unleash Israel if they ask.

Looking for a war? Iran has lived up to the terms of the agreement, but in your infinite wisdom, that wouldn't be good enough. People far smarter than you or I are firmly behind this agreement

War with Iran will be quick. When they get nukes they'll be a part of the nations that can't go to war with one another. Should we go to war to prevent the number one state sponsor of terror in the world from developing a nuclear missile? Yes. Is that in our national interest? Yes.

 

[vlad_hombre]

It keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. I only wish you were as interested in NK when they developed their nuclear weapons

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

Lets ask again, what would you do?

Ramp up sanctions again and unleash Israel if they ask.

Damn, history must be the hardest of all.

We sanctioned the shit out of them (thank you, Obama & Clinton).

That's what brought them to the table, Einstein.

And, your next option is war.

When has that ever not worked out splendidly.

 

[brummelben]

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

Lets ask again, what would you do?

Ramp up sanctions again and unleash Israel if they ask.

Looking for a war? Iran has lived up to the terms of the agreement, but in your infinite wisdom, that wouldn't be good enough. People far smarter than you or I are firmly behind this agreement

War with Iran will be quick. When they get nukes they'll be a part of the nations that can't go to war with one another. Should we go to war to prevent the number one state sponsor of terror in the world from developing a nuclear missile? Yes? Is that in our national interest? Yes.

I am sure you were also in the forefront of the warmongers demanding war with iraq. how did that work out for you? Still looking for those WMD;s

 

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year.

You only wish? What was my position on NK nukes? See, you don't know because I haven't discussed it. And since I haven't discussed it your "I only wish" comment suddenly becomes bullshit.

This agreement will keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons for 10 years. What part of that can't you understand

What part of basic math don't you understand? I'll repeat for the mentally disabled.

Basic math, the US estimates that Iran can develop a nuke within months to a year. The US estimates it will take up to 10 years to develop the missile to put it on. Ergo, we've delayed a nuclear missile by a few months to a year. Iran gets a nuclear missile in 10 years anyway. So delaying it for 10 years isn't exactly a sucess story.

Lets ask again, what would you do?

Ramp up sanctions again and unleash Israel if they ask.

Damn, history must be the hardest of all.

We sanctioned the shit out of them (thank you, Obama & Clinton).

That's what brought them to the table, Einstein.

And, your next option is war.

When has that ever not worked out splendidly.

Telling them that well give them a shit load of money and lift sanctions while giving them a nuclear missile on the same timetable they had before is hardly a success story. There was, however, one time Iran truly halted their nuclear program; immediatly after we invaded Iraq.

 

[francoHFW]

Guess it's not such a "bad deal" after all.

The European Union's foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, said on Friday she was reassured during meetings with President Donald Trump's administration that it was committed to full implementation of the Iran nuclear deal.

Mogherini, who met this week with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, Trump's advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner and members of Congress, said her main intention in Washington was to discuss the nuclear accord, which granted Iran sanctions relief in return for curbs on its nuclear program.

"I was reassured by what I heard in the meetings on the intention to stick to the full implementation of the agreement," Mogherini told reporters.

EU's Mogherini: U.S. says will fully implement Iran nuclear deal

The government estimates that Iran can develop an nuke in anywhere between a few months to a year. Conversely they estimate that it will take roughly 10 years to develop the missile technology to transport it. The nuke deal is for 10 years. Now answer me this, how does this deal slow down the Iranian nuclear program? You can't exactly cave to a deal that gives Iran nuclear weapons on the same timetable as they had before.

That was before they had to throw out so much of their program, dupe.

 

[vlad_hombre]

War with Iran will be quick.

Thanks, Dick Cheney.