Trump deal loses 1300 jobs before he ever takes office ..

An Earthquake hits
A wall is collapsing, about to crush 5 people
You jump into action, pull 2 clear
Those 2 live, 3 die

Liberal Logic: 'You are responsible for the deaths of 3 people'.

:wtf:

You save a whole industry from collapse.
You save 1100 jobs.

Conservative Logic: Saving 1100 jobs is more important than saving a whole industry because the guy saving the 1100 jobs is our guy....
 
Figures you have that attitude. Just trust government and assume everything will be fine in the end.... Is it a pension or just Australian Social security? Does it invest in anything, or is it paid out of government funds? You really should know this shit.

I check my 401k monthly, right now is dividend time. If companies are allowed to be bailed out and fuck over stockholders and bondholders, they whole system goes down, and guess where those pensions invest their money?

I don't trust govt at all. It's a private superannuation fund. And if the industry collapses the stock and bond holders are fucked anyway.
how does it make any money?
 
No shit. People found this out a month ago.
Thanks for nothing, dumbfuck.


yet you lied about Trump bribing Carrier ... thanks for being a lying pos ... hairball.
Oye vay....where does it end?

Another unarmed moron who thinks he can actually have
a battle of wits with, of all posters, TNHarley :dunno:


PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


want the link Ellie Mae?
Whats you point, dude? Nobody gives a shit. He saved jobs. Jobs that will turn into tax money. I thought you leftist statists liked tax $?
Bribing companies to stay isn't out of the normal. And you just about have to considering the leftist policies that rape our private sector.


more left than stayed ...DDDUUURRRRRRRRRR ... a more or less thingie Gomer, ya know?

math is so confusing huh?
 
I wrote Trump and told him that if he gave me a $3,000 tax break, I won't have my $4,000 worth of dental work done in Nogales, Mexico for $2,000. I expect a response as soon as his people have gone through his campaign donation file looking for my name. He already knows that I am not on his "A" list, because I would already be a cabinet appointee.
I'd tell you to go to mexico and come back and show us the quality of the work.

Obviously, you don't live anywhere near the border. I have had my dental work done in Mexico for 10 years, and the work is excellent. In reality, I will be there again in 2 weeks. the Tucson dentist wanted $8,000. The Nogales dentist wants $1,200 for the exact same procedure. let me know if you want me to pick up some Viagra for you for 20 cents per pill, or maybe some Gentleman Jack, at 60% of the US price.
well do they have obummercare there? no wonder why! and you think you're laughing at us. you're telling everyone how fked up obummercare actually is. thanks.

I'm glad you brought that up. America is the only country in the world that saddles their businesses with providing heath insurance for their employees. Ford has been spending more of their own money for health insurance than they have paid per car for steel since 1977. And folks on the right think that is a GOOD thing, and then blame Ford for moving their assembly to countries where employers don't provide group insurance. It amazes me how folks like you can not grasp how our present health insurance structure puts out industry at a total disadvantage on the world market, when it is such a simple thing to understand.
my present health insurance? I didn't vote for this crap called obummerfail.
 
No shit. People found this out a month ago.
Thanks for nothing, dumbfuck.


yet you lied about Trump bribing Carrier ... thanks for being a lying pos ... hairball.
Oye vay....where does it end?

Another unarmed moron who thinks he can actually have
a battle of wits with, of all posters, TNHarley :dunno:


PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


want the link Ellie Mae?
Whats you point, dude? Nobody gives a shit. He saved jobs. Jobs that will turn into tax money. I thought you leftist statists liked tax $?
Bribing companies to stay isn't out of the normal. And you just about have to considering the leftist policies that rape our private sector.


more left than stayed ...DDDUUURRRRRRRRRR ... a more or less thingie Gomer, ya know?

math is so confusing huh?
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No shit. People found this out a month ago.
Thanks for nothing, dumbfuck.


yet you lied about Trump bribing Carrier ... thanks for being a lying pos ... hairball.
Oye vay....where does it end?

Another unarmed moron who thinks he can actually have
a battle of wits with, of all posters, TNHarley :dunno:


PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


want the link Ellie Mae?
PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..
Nice "cumback", did you scrape it from the back of your throat?


stfu, you're trolling.
stfu, you're trolling
You stfu, I'm not trolling, there's nothing to work with here!

Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot,
but not acceptable for me to point it out?
 
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I get all that. And if the industry collapses? The point of having stocks and bonds is...?
there wouldn't be an economy then. that's what if.

Exactly. See my link. There was high speculation that if the auto industry and gone into a tail spin your country would have gone into a long recession.

But don't worry. Go around criticising Obama and Bush for saving a whole industry while putting Trump on a pedestal for allegedly saving 1100 jobs.[/QUOTE]
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yet you lied about Trump bribing Carrier ... thanks for being a lying pos ... hairball.
Oye vay....where does it end?

Another unarmed moron who thinks he can actually have
a battle of wits with, of all posters, TNHarley :dunno:


PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


want the link Ellie Mae?
PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..
Nice "cumback", did you scrape it from the back of your throat?


stfu, you're trolling.
stfu, you're trolling
You stfu, I'm not trolling, there's nothing to work with here!

Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot,
but not acceptable for me to point it out?
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only Trumpbots suck Trumps cock for bribing a company and still losing more jobs than it kept.
You mean tax incentives? Lol, I guess when BMW was bribed to come to South Carolina it was a mistake? They didn't have to pay property taxes for ten years. Liberals here hated the idea, but now they bring millions in South Carolina yearly. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands they give to charity. One of the best things happened to us.
 
An Earthquake hits
A wall is collapsing, about to crush 5 people
You jump into action, pull 2 clear
Those 2 live, 3 die

Liberal Logic: 'You are responsible for the deaths of 3 people'.

:wtf:

You save a whole industry from collapse.
You save 1100 jobs.

Conservative Logic: Saving 1100 jobs is more important than saving a whole industry because the guy saving the 1100 jobs is our guy....
what industry exactly is failing? you keep posting that stupid line, and we have no idea what industry is failing. which one? Australia?
 
I wrote Trump and told him that if he gave me a $3,000 tax break, I won't have my $4,000 worth of dental work done in Nogales, Mexico for $2,000. I expect a response as soon as his people have gone through his campaign donation file looking for my name. He already knows that I am not on his "A" list, because I would already be a cabinet appointee.
I'd tell you to go to mexico and come back and show us the quality of the work.

Obviously, you don't live anywhere near the border. I have had my dental work done in Mexico for 10 years, and the work is excellent. In reality, I will be there again in 2 weeks. the Tucson dentist wanted $8,000. The Nogales dentist wants $1,200 for the exact same procedure. let me know if you want me to pick up some Viagra for you for 20 cents per pill, or maybe some Gentleman Jack, at 60% of the US price.
well do they have obummercare there? no wonder why! and you think you're laughing at us. you're telling everyone how fked up obummercare actually is. thanks.

I'm glad you brought that up. America is the only country in the world that saddles their businesses with providing heath insurance for their employees. Ford has been spending more of their own money for health insurance than they have paid per car for steel since 1977. And folks on the right think that is a GOOD thing, and then blame Ford for moving their assembly to countries where employers don't provide group insurance. It amazes me how folks like you can not grasp how our present health insurance structure puts out industry at a total disadvantage on the world market, when it is such a simple thing to understand.
my present health insurance? I didn't vote for this crap called obummerfail.

No, you didn't, because you prefer your employer to pay for your insurance, which, of course, means that your employer is not competitive with an employer anywhere else in the world that is in the same business.
 
yet you lied about Trump bribing Carrier ... thanks for being a lying pos ... hairball.
Oye vay....where does it end?

Another unarmed moron who thinks he can actually have
a battle of wits with, of all posters, TNHarley :dunno:


PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


want the link Ellie Mae?
PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..
Nice "cumback", did you scrape it from the back of your throat?


stfu, you're trolling.
stfu, you're trolling
You stfu, I'm not trolling, there's nothing to work with here!

Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot,
but not acceptable for me to point it out?

theres facts posted in the very first thread ... you're just too damn Dumb to do anything but troll, TROLL.
 
You save a whole industry from collapse.
You save 1100 jobs.
Except Obama didn't really 'save' GM.
GM could have just as easily been 'saved' by going through Bankruptcy...

The 'industry' was not just 'saved', either - you like skipping over that part where Obama broke the law, cost tax payers $10 BILLION, and 3/4 of the GM jobs still went to foreign countries.

Trump saved 1100 jobs without breaking the law, without costing tax payers a dime, and the 1100 jobs stay in the US.
 
I'd tell you to go to mexico and come back and show us the quality of the work.

Obviously, you don't live anywhere near the border. I have had my dental work done in Mexico for 10 years, and the work is excellent. In reality, I will be there again in 2 weeks. the Tucson dentist wanted $8,000. The Nogales dentist wants $1,200 for the exact same procedure. let me know if you want me to pick up some Viagra for you for 20 cents per pill, or maybe some Gentleman Jack, at 60% of the US price.
well do they have obummercare there? no wonder why! and you think you're laughing at us. you're telling everyone how fked up obummercare actually is. thanks.

I'm glad you brought that up. America is the only country in the world that saddles their businesses with providing heath insurance for their employees. Ford has been spending more of their own money for health insurance than they have paid per car for steel since 1977. And folks on the right think that is a GOOD thing, and then blame Ford for moving their assembly to countries where employers don't provide group insurance. It amazes me how folks like you can not grasp how our present health insurance structure puts out industry at a total disadvantage on the world market, when it is such a simple thing to understand.
my present health insurance? I didn't vote for this crap called obummerfail.

No, you didn't, because you prefer your employer to pay for your insurance, which, of course, means that your employer is not competitive with an employer anywhere else in the world that is in the same business.
I get the insurance available to me, yes. it was mandated I use only that. I can't go get my own insurance and obummerfail made sure I'd fail. wow, leeches, sucking the life out of the country.

BTW, it doesn't mean other countries insurance is better cause it's cheaper. it ain't fking cheaper, and you know it. put play the pity ball and see where it goes. but raising taxes is not an answer. never will be ever.
 
You save a whole industry from collapse.
You save 1100 jobs.
Except Obama didn't really 'save' GM.
GM could have just as easily been 'saved' by going through Bankruptcy...

The 'industry' was not just 'saved', either - you like skipping over that part where Obama broke the law, cost tax payers $10 BILLION, and 3/4 of the GM jobs still went to foreign countries.

Trump saved 1100 jobs without breaking the law, without costing tax payers a dime, and the 1100 jobs stay in the US.
and the industry he refers to is the auto industry and he is saying it was failing.

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