Trump doubles down on claim that US 'wages are too high

[NYcarbineer]

Republicans that fight against raising the minimum wage do it because big business pays them to fight against raising the minimum wage. It's really not that complicated.

So when do I get my check?

You're in government? What office do you hold?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I'd accept a compromise. Raise the minimum wage to 10 bucks and then tie it to inflation, adjusted annually.

How about we get a new President who KNOWS and CAN create new jobs - replacing the full-time jobs that were lost thanks to the ACA?!

This country has lost almost a million GOVERNMENT jobs since the recession. Where do you suppose those people are now?

Not sucking up our tax dollars?

 

[Boss]

 

[easyt65]

The real problem is the middle class wages not rising with the tide.....the min wage would naturally follow.

That is part of it, but the fact that the full-time labor force is as low as it has been since the 70s is a major part of it. Again, due to the ACA mandates, many jobs modified the full-time jobs to become part-time jobs (cut in salary and benefits). The answer is not to give lil' Jimmy, Middle Class Joe Smith, or Granny a $15 an hour wage for working at McDonalds...it's bringing back and creating full-time jobs.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Republicans that fight against raising the minimum wage do it because big business pays them to fight against raising the minimum wage. It's really not that complicated.

So when do I get my check?

You're in government? What office do you hold?

Who said anything about working for the government?
Certainly not you.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yeah that's right pinhead, we want to pay you $17 a day and a bowl of rice.

Now go run vote for your Socialist.

It's what Trump said....we need LOWER wages to compete with the Chinas of the global economy.

It's clear as day light, what Trump said and meant, no other explanation for it.

Bring American wages DOWN, so we can compete...

Yeah, that's what I said... We're going to pay you $17 a day and bowl of rice. And you're going to work 6 days a week and 12 hrs. a day for it and be grateful. Isn't that what you want to hear? We're just crazy ass heartless bastards who want to make you suffer so the rich can get richer... not dammit... GO VOTE FOR YOUR SOCIALIST!

Go vote for your FASCHISTS.

^^^^^^WTF???

is this leftard falling apart or what/??

He said I supported a Socialist, if so, then he supports a Fascist.

Neither are 100% true.....but what the heck.....why not throw it out there with all the mud coming from the right wing...?

Bernie is a self proclaimed socialist.

 

[Boss]

Yeah, that's what I said... We're going to pay you $17 a day and bowl of rice. And you're going to work 6 days a week and 12 hrs. a day for it and be grateful. Isn't that what you want to hear? We're just crazy ass heartless bastards who want to make you suffer so the rich can get richer... not dammit... GO VOTE FOR YOUR SOCIALIST!

Go vote for your FASCHISTS.

Go find a dictionary.

STAT!

Just saying...

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander....

socialist/fascist

Hey, you ought to be okay with Fascism, it's what we've had for 8 years.

Fascism is a Right Wing philosophy, have we had a right winger for 8 years and I missed it?

Guess so, because we've had Fascist government by every definition.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump is right. Minimum wage increases kill jobs. Everybody with a brain knows that, it's simple logic.

Except actual evidence proves you wrong...

Does raising the minimum wage always result in job growth?

It mostly doesn't affect it all

At the risk of repetitiveness, even raises in the minimum wage aren't really raises. They are merely reductions in the rate and amount of decline the minimum wage has seen over the last 5 decades.

 

[Stephanie]

So, the way to compete with China getting all of our manufacturing is to bring USA wages DOWN to China's wages?


What a STUPID comment and thoughtless idea.

Yeah that's right pinhead, we want to pay you $17 a day and a bowl of rice.

Now go run vote for your Socialist.

It's what Trump said....we need LOWER wages to compete with the Chinas of the global economy.

It's clear as day light, what Trump said and meant, no other explanation for it.

Bring American wages DOWN, so we can compete...

Yeah, that's what I said... We're going to pay you $17 a day and bowl of rice. And you're going to work 6 days a week and 12 hrs. a day for it and be grateful. Isn't that what you want to hear? We're just crazy ass heartless bastards who want to make you suffer so the rich can get richer... not dammit... GO VOTE FOR YOUR SOCIALIST!

Go vote for your FASCHISTS.

wow, you have another personality I never saw before.

 

[bedowin62]

I'd accept a compromise. Raise the minimum wage to 10 bucks and then tie it to inflation, adjusted annually.

How about we get a new President who KNOWS and CAN create new jobs - replacing the full-time jobs that were lost thanks to the ACA?!

You want the government to create jobs? I thought the government doesn't create jobs.

who created all the jobs the president brags he created? the government of the private sector?

careful idiot, your response might contradict other left-wing talking points

 

[bedowin62]

Trump is right. Minimum wage increases kill jobs. Everybody with a brain knows that, it's simple logic.

Except actual evidence proves you wrong...

Does raising the minimum wage always result in job growth?

It mostly doesn't affect it all

At the risk of repetitiveness, even raises in the minimum wage aren't really raises. They are merely reductions in the rate and amount of decline the minimum wage has seen over the last 5 decades.

where was the minimum wage lowered???

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'd accept a compromise. Raise the minimum wage to 10 bucks and then tie it to inflation, adjusted annually.

How about we get a new President who KNOWS and CAN create new jobs - replacing the full-time jobs that were lost thanks to the ACA?!

You want the government to create jobs? I thought the government doesn't create jobs.

who created all the jobs the president brags he created? the government of the private sector?

careful idiot, your response might contradict other left-wing talking points

How many jobs has the President claimed he personally created?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump is right. Minimum wage increases kill jobs. Everybody with a brain knows that, it's simple logic.

Except actual evidence proves you wrong...

Does raising the minimum wage always result in job growth?

It mostly doesn't affect it all

At the risk of repetitiveness, even raises in the minimum wage aren't really raises. They are merely reductions in the rate and amount of decline the minimum wage has seen over the last 5 decades.

where was the minimum wage lowered???

Every time it wasn't raised above the rate of inflation.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

lol, the RW'ers demand smaller government, and then when they get it, they blame the job related consequences on Obama.

Most of those Government jobs would have been above minimum wage and likely would also have health care benefits...these Republicans are poison I am telling you they are poison to the economy and somehow they delude themselves that the GOP handles the economy better..
Want A Better Economy? History Says Vote Democrat ...

 

[bedowin62]

I'd accept a compromise. Raise the minimum wage to 10 bucks and then tie it to inflation, adjusted annually.

How about we get a new President who KNOWS and CAN create new jobs - replacing the full-time jobs that were lost thanks to the ACA?!

You want the government to create jobs? I thought the government doesn't create jobs.

who created all the jobs the president brags he created? the government of the private sector?

careful idiot, your response might contradict other left-wing talking points

How many jobs has the President claimed he personally created?

millions, idiot



Barack Obama says his administration has created 5 million ...
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[HereWeGoAgain]

Trump is right. Minimum wage increases kill jobs. Everybody with a brain knows that, it's simple logic.

Except actual evidence proves you wrong...

Does raising the minimum wage always result in job growth?

It mostly doesn't affect it all

At the risk of repetitiveness, even raises in the minimum wage aren't really raises. They are merely reductions in the rate and amount of decline the minimum wage has seen over the last 5 decades.

Kinda like a cut in spending isnt really a cut at all.
It's just a smaller increase.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

There was a time, before primaries, when each party’s platform was really important. Voters didn’t pick a candidate, the party did. Then voters read what policies the party planned to implement should it control the executive branch, and possibly a legislative majority. It was the policies that drew the most attention – not the candidates.

Digging deeper today than shortened debate-level headlines, there is a considerable difference in the recommended economic policies of the two dominant parties.

The common viewpoint is that Republicans are good for business, which is good for the economy. Republican policies – and the more Adam Smith, invisible hand, limited regulation,lassaiz faire the better – are expected to create a robust, healthy, growing economy. Meanwhile, the common view of Democrat policies is that they too heavily favor regulation and higher taxes which are economy killers.

Right?

Well, for those who feel this way it may be time to review the last 80 years of economic history, Bob Deitrick and Lew Godlfarb have done it in a great, easy to read book; “Bulls, Bears and the Ballot Box” (available at Amazon.com) Their heavily researched, and footnoted, text brings forth some serious inconsistency between the common viewpoint of America’s dominant parties, and the reality of how America has performed since the start of the Great Depression.
Want A Better Economy? History Says Vote Democrat ...

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'd accept a compromise. Raise the minimum wage to 10 bucks and then tie it to inflation, adjusted annually.

How about we get a new President who KNOWS and CAN create new jobs - replacing the full-time jobs that were lost thanks to the ACA?!

This country has lost almost a million GOVERNMENT jobs since the recession. Where do you suppose those people are now?

Not sucking up our tax dollars?

Nice dodge. Since you're happy those million people are either out of work or holding jobs that other unemployed Americans were competing for,

why aren't you happy with the slow rate of job growth? You've been getting what you wanted -

fewer jobs in government, fewer private sector jobs related to government spending, what are you bitching about?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump is right. Minimum wage increases kill jobs. Everybody with a brain knows that, it's simple logic.

Except actual evidence proves you wrong...

Does raising the minimum wage always result in job growth?

It mostly doesn't affect it all

At the risk of repetitiveness, even raises in the minimum wage aren't really raises. They are merely reductions in the rate and amount of decline the minimum wage has seen over the last 5 decades.

Kinda like a cut in spending isnt really a cut at all.
It's just a smaller increase.

That's an artfully crafted concession, I'll give you that much.

 

[Programmer]

The problem with debating minimum wage with conservatives and especially republican conservatives is the issue is not about fairness or morality, it is rather about ideology and opposition involving perceived assumptions about who would get the raise. Underlying the opposition is economic agitprop from corporations whose only concern is next quarter earnings, and the Pavlovian response to anything that helps all Americans. It is part of a mindset created by business for over sixty years. The conservatives are well trained and facts have no place when the idea is an embedded belief. Tell them Clinton raised the rate and all went well and you have sufficiently countered them, but they still follow, as again it is not about rationality but rather about opposition based on ideology. Belief systems run deep for some. See book at bottom.

'Nearly 3 years, and counting: Minimum wage increase helps working families and the economy'
Nearly 3 years, and counting: Minimum wage increase helps working families and the economy

Raising the Minimum Wage to $12 by 2020 Would Lift Wages for 35 Million American Workers

"It turns out that the Wall Street bonus pool in 2014 was roughly twice the total annual earnings of all Americans working full time at the federal minimum wage." http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/opinion/sunday/nicholas-kristof-inequality-is-a-choice.html

"And yet over the course of the decade the old skepticism toward business that had been born in the Great Depression and reawakened for a new generation in the Vietnam era finally began to disappear. The economic transformations of the decade would be interpreted through the framework of the free market vision. The 1970s campaigns to revive the image of capitalism among college students bore fruit in the 1980s. Universities created new centers for the study of business themes such as entrepreneurship. Students in Free Enterprise, a group started in 1975 to bring students together to "discuss what they might do to counteract the stultifying criticism of American business," thrived on small college campuses, funded by companies like Coors, Dow Chemical, and Walmart (as well as the Business Roundtable). The group organized battles of the bands, at which prizes would be doled out to the best pro-business rock anthems, helped silkscreen T-shirts with pro-capitalist messages, and created skits based on Milton Friedman's writings, which college students would perform in local elementary schools. In the workplace, the decline of the old manufacturing cities of [he North and Midwest and the rise of the sprawling suburbs of the Sunbelt metropolises marked the rise of a new economic culture, dominated by companies such as Walmart and Home Depot and Barnes & Noble." Kim Phillips-Fein ('Invisible Hands')

"In the workplace, the decline of the old manufacturing cities of [he North and Midwest and the rise of the sprawling suburbs of the Sunbelt metropolises marked the rise of a new economic culture, dominated by companies such as Walmart and Home Depot and Barnes & Noble." (Emphasis by others)

There's the bullshit. Trump's point is that our wages are too uncompetitive to maintain "old jobs", your point is that they can work at Walmart and that's some "new" norm. This is the mistake that the UK made.