Trump Goes Silent On Voting Machines

[progressive hunter]

No, the machines are the evidence. No one had to look they are there but being withheld from discovery

As someone already pointed out, they were looked at and you came up with an excuse as to why that wasn't sufficient.

You'll invent any excuse if something doesn't fit your preconceived conclusions.

all they did was investigate themselves and concluded they did nothing wrong,, they were never looked at by an outside unbiased source for the specific claims presented,,

but you knew that and decided to lie about it,,

 

[Rigby5]

I do not know that. But there was massive fraud and enough votes were stolen or manufactured to steal the election. Again, release the machines if there is nothing to hide. They look very guilty. If it were Trump withholding the machines you would be livid. Remember he withheld his taxes from view and that made him guilty. Apply that same standard here.

Typically, people look for evidence of something before settling on the conclusion. You've arrived at a conclusion and are now looking for evidence. It's backwards.

There's no pleasing you. They could do a million investigations proving you wrong and you've had a million reasons to ignore those investigations.

But there have been lots of deliberate fraud in the past, like hanging chads, butterfly ballots, voters disenfranchised over their name, etc.
And using privately built, imported voting machines, is just ridiculously vulnerable.
No one can prove there was no election fraud.
And the lack of proof there was is not sufficient to prove there wasn't, since it is easy to wipe the electronic evidence.
A hand recount of paper ballots is the only way to get close to accurate. And I think that was only done a few places?

 

[Rigby5]

No, the machines are the evidence. No one had to look they are there but being withheld from discovery

As someone already pointed out, they were looked at and you came up with an excuse as to why that wasn't sufficient.

You'll invent any excuse if something doesn't fit your preconceived conclusions.

The voting machines were NOT at all looked at.
You would have to disclose the software, not only now, but any downloaded through the network, at the time.
Which obviously can't be done because it is transient.

 

[Lastamender]

I did not say that. Fulton county was enough to steal the election. We saw actual videos of fraud taking place.

So the voting machines only cheated in some places and not others?

I do not know that. But there was massive fraud and enough votes were stolen or manufactured to steal the election. Again, release the machines if there is nothing to hide. They look very guilty. If it were Trump withholding the machines you would be livid. Remember he withheld his taxes from view and that made him guilty. Apply that same standard here.

I don't think the election was a fraud, but it can never be proven it wasn't because the machines were never properly certified, and with wide area network capability, could never be verifiable.

If you look at the historical results of elections you can see Biden missed a lot of benchmarks. He did not take bellwhether counties (1 out of 19). He did not win Iowa, Florida or Ohio. He won the least amount of counties of any president and the down ballot of his party lost.

Then there was a 700,000 vote lead that evaporated overnight in PA. The data shows huge spikes with Biden getting 94% of votes in ballot drops of 200,000. There is video of ballots being counted multiple times. Also data shows exact ratios that are impossible to maintain in any election unless the ratio is predetermined.

There was massive fraud. The guilt is obvious. The censorship, the intimidation from the FBI against whistle blowers, and finally the impeachment all point to guilt.

 

[Polishprince]

As Trump allies get sued by Dominion and Smartmatic the x-president has been told to keep his mouth shut.
Donald Trump could still get sued for his role in spreading fake news.

"On Wednesday, The Daily Beast reported that Trump has quietly stopped mentioning a pair of election systems vendors that he and his allies have long implicated in conspiracy theories about the outcome of the 2020 presidential race."

"Both Dominion and Smartmatic are currently involved in large defamation lawsuits against right-wing associates and supporters of Trump who tried to implicate them in fictional election fraud schemes. Dominion has filed suit against Rudy Giuliani, and plans to file another suit against right-wing MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. Smartmatic, meanwhile, has a $2.7 billion suit pending against Fox News."

Trump quietly stopped attacking voting machine companies after they filed lawsuits against his allies: report - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism

President Trump has been de-platformed, he really can't say anything directly to the American people.

Good.

Why is it "good" to suppress Free Speech, in the liberal view?

Trump is free to make whatever remakrs he wants, but if defames, libels or slanders someone he will pay the consequences. Just like every other American citizen.

It is only possible to sue someone if they make knowingly false statements, with a harmful intent.
Not only is it likely Trump believes it so can't be sued, but no one should trust voting machines unless they are produced by the government. And even then someone working on them could install a secret back door no one else knows about.
You don't know how computers work.
They do all have lots of vulnerabilities.
The only way to make voting machines even close to secure, is if they are make under top secret restrictions.

It isn't a false statement anyhow, because Trump only stated that the rumors were out there- and they were. So it was true.

 

[evenflow1969]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

 

[surada]

As Trump allies get sued by Dominion and Smartmatic the x-president has been told to keep his mouth shut.
Donald Trump could still get sued for his role in spreading fake news.

"On Wednesday, The Daily Beast reported that Trump has quietly stopped mentioning a pair of election systems vendors that he and his allies have long implicated in conspiracy theories about the outcome of the 2020 presidential race."

"Both Dominion and Smartmatic are currently involved in large defamation lawsuits against right-wing associates and supporters of Trump who tried to implicate them in fictional election fraud schemes. Dominion has filed suit against Rudy Giuliani, and plans to file another suit against right-wing MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. Smartmatic, meanwhile, has a $2.7 billion suit pending against Fox News."

Trump quietly stopped attacking voting machine companies after they filed lawsuits against his allies: report - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism

President Trump has been de-platformed, he really can't say anything directly to the American people.

Good.

Why is it "good" to suppress Free Speech, in the liberal view?

Trump is free to make whatever remakrs he wants, but if defames, libels or slanders someone he will pay the consequences. Just like every other American citizen.

It is only possible to sue someone if they make knowingly false statements, with a harmful intent.
Not only is it likely Trump believes it so can't be sued, but no one should trust voting machines unless they are produced by the government. And even then someone working on them could install a secret back door no one else knows about.
You don't know how computers work.
They do all have lots of vulnerabilities.
The only way to make voting machines even close to secure, is if they are make under top secret restrictions.

It isn't a false statement anyhow, because Trump only stated that the rumors were out there- and they were. So it was true.

The president of the United States indulges himself in spreading stupid gossip????? You sure have low expectations.

 

[Lastamender]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

 

[rightwinger]

Private Citizen Trump is going to have to pay from multiple lawsuits.

He led and participated in the attacks on these companies.
He should pay.

NAACP lawsuit will put Trump “out of business,” lawmaker says | WTRF

Excerpt:

Thompson, represented by the NAACP, filed the lawsuit Tuesday alleging that Trump, Giuliani, and the far-right groups Proud Boys and Oath Keepers conspired to incite the attack while lawmakers were gathered to reaffirm President Biden’s Electoral College victory.

The lawsuit accuses them of violating the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, which prohibits two or more people from conspiring to “prevent, by force, intimidation, or threat,” any office-holder from performing their duties.

“The act was put in place to protect those members of Congress so that we can actually have a democracy that stands up to the promise of the Constitution, without individuals being in fear of their intimidation or threat to their lives,” Johnson said, adding that the Capitol riots “fit perfectly” into why the legislation was passed.

Thompson compared modern-day extremist groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to the Ku Klux Klan, claiming the groups “morphed out of the Klan connection.”

NAACP lawsuit will put Trump “out of business,” lawmaker says

Congressman Bennie Thompson, the Democratic lawmaker who is partnering with the NAACP in a lawsuit against former President Trump and Rudy Giuliani, says he is looking forward to his day in court. …

www.wtrf.com

A one day occupation of Congress can not possibly be construed as attempting to prevent congress from conducting business.
But a frivolous lawsuit attempting to harm an ex-president over their legally protected political beliefs, is illegal.

Unless that one day was to confirm the next President

 

[rightwinger]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Rudy has destroyed his legacy.
He is no longer employable, his opinions are no longer wanted

 

[Lastamender]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Rudy has destroyed his legacy.
He is no longer employable, his opinions are no longer wanted

Not with me he hasn't. What the Left thinks of Rudy is irrelevant. There was massive fraud and he proved it to several state legislatures.

 

[rightwinger]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Rudy has destroyed his legacy.
He is no longer employable, his opinions are no longer wanted

Not with me he hasn't. What the Left thinks of Rudy is irrelevant. There was massive fraud and he proved it to several state legislatures.

Sad to see what Rudy did to his legacy.

Supporting ridiculous conspiracy theories about Stolen Elections.

 

[Lastamender]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Rudy has destroyed his legacy.
He is no longer employable, his opinions are no longer wanted

Not with me he hasn't. What the Left thinks of Rudy is irrelevant. There was massive fraud and he proved it to several state legislatures.

Sad to see what Rudy did to his legacy.

Supporting ridiculous conspiracy theories about Stolen Elections.

Not a conspiracy. The election was stolen. You are wasting your time lying to me. But you do it so well, wasting time.

Here is the Evidence

Crowdsourcing evidence for journalists.

hereistheevidence.com

 

[rightwinger]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Rudy has destroyed his legacy.
He is no longer employable, his opinions are no longer wanted

Not with me he hasn't. What the Left thinks of Rudy is irrelevant. There was massive fraud and he proved it to several state legislatures.

Sad to see what Rudy did to his legacy.

Supporting ridiculous conspiracy theories about Stolen Elections.

Not a conspiracy. The election was stolen. You are wasting your time lying to me. But you do it so well, wasting time.

Here is the Evidence

Crowdsourcing evidence for journalists.

hereistheevidence.com

sorry pal

Not playing your silly conspiracies

 

[Likkmee]

I can't remember what it is, but there's some legal shield that allows Trump to say all sorts of bullshit as President.

But he can't as a private citizen.

You don't know the guy. He says anything at any time.

 

[Lastamender]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Rudy has destroyed his legacy.
He is no longer employable, his opinions are no longer wanted

Not with me he hasn't. What the Left thinks of Rudy is irrelevant. There was massive fraud and he proved it to several state legislatures.

Sad to see what Rudy did to his legacy.

Supporting ridiculous conspiracy theories about Stolen Elections.

Not a conspiracy. The election was stolen. You are wasting your time lying to me. But you do it so well, wasting time.

Here is the Evidence

Crowdsourcing evidence for journalists.

hereistheevidence.com

sorry pal

Not playing your silly conspiracies

Sorry pal you saying that each time proves guilt. Dumbass.

 

[evenflow1969]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Hillarious! You no nothing about me. What a dumb fuck. You are a true waste of sperm. The best part of you ran down your mom's leg. Lol

 

[Lastamender]

the old leftwing rambo line, Rambo's a private citizen now, that makes him my problem.
remember the next line lefties.
I didn't come hear to save rambo from you, I came to save you from rambo. LOL

Ya Trumps fat fucking ass is Rambo. Hillarious. I recall his wittle feet hurt to bad to even be an army cook. Hillarious. You dumb fucking Trumpsters completely detached from reality. Can't wait to hear Rudy ask me if I would like fries with that.

At least Rudy would get a job. An asshole like you woud want the government to support your lying useless ass.

Hillarious! You no nothing about me. What a dumb fuck. You are a true waste of sperm. The best part of you ran down your mom's leg. Lol

I am pretty glad I know nothing about you. How about we keep it that way?

 

[rightwinger]

Trump: I have been cheated

My lawyers tell me I am not allowed to say by whom

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Private Citizen Trump is going to have to pay from multiple lawsuits.

He led and participated in the attacks on these companies.
He should pay.

A line of your failed predictions would stretch from here to the moon.
Too bad you are responsible for none of your idiotic comments.