Trump had "nothing to do with Russia"

[Cellblock2429]

Please post photos and the address of the Trump Tower in Moscow. This could be damaging.

At the very least......Trump...."the greatest deal-maker EVER"....fucked up on that little deal.....LOL

/----/ How so?

 

[Valerie]

No. It's a hypothetical based on a false narrative floated by Democrats perpetrated by the media. They're lying to you and trying to use unrelated situations to draw a false conclusion.

Whats worse is you dipshits are using a proposal that never became reality to base your arguments from. You have to read so much into your reference material and assume things that never happened for it to be even possible.

Never mind that you don't seem to understand how a large multi-national corporation works. Not every idea originates from the CEO. Trump's companies looked into building in dozens of countries. Russia was only one of them. They decided it was a waste of time, yet this allegedly proves colluding somehow. Grasping at straws much?

"Let's look into building in Russia!"
"Sorry sir, it doesn't make any sense!"
"OK, forget about it!"

This proves Collusion.

How dumb can you get.

your posts represent the dumbest of the dumbos, so who could beat that?



"this proves" blah blah blah that is is YOUR false narrative..

drip drip drip fact fact fact IGNORED by partisan parrots.

these latest emails are just another piece of the BIG puzzle currently being sorted out by YOUR GOVERNMENT.

that is, LEGALLY sorted out, not by "libtards" as your false narrative repeatedly asserts, but by THE LAW.

these dedicated officials are SWORN TO preserve, protect and defend YOUR COUNTRY from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC.

naturally, this effort offends dumbo parrots like YOU.

Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, and why Trump is so afraid of it, explained

 

[nat4900]

/----/ From your link:
"The Trump Moscow proposal was simply one of many development opportunities that the Trump Organization considered and ultimately rejected," Cohen said in a written statement.
"In late January 2016, I abandoned the Moscow proposal because I lost confidence that the prospective licensee would be able to obtain the real estate, financing and government approvals necessary to bring the proposal to fruition," he added. "It was a building proposal that did not succeed and nothing more."

So for all you people who are telling me that it was an innocent connection and nothing ever happened with it, fine. That isn't my point. I don't give a hoot about the whole Russia investigation as I know how it will end up. Both "sides" will declare victory. I don't care.

My OP is about the fact that I repeatedly have had my President lie to me. I don't like it when people lie to me. Some of you folks apparently don't care if someone lies to you unless they are in the wrong tribe.

You have NO proof that Trump "lied" about anything.
You have LIB MSM attempting to string together a lot of 'ifs' and 'could bes' and what ifs' to prove Trump "lied.
Let's wait and see if any of their usual bullshit is true.
Just b/c someone in his multi-billion dollar empire spoke to a (GOD FORBID) Russian about some proposed building doesn't mean President Trump had anything to do with the initial inquiries.

/----/ On a different thread, Libtards give Hildabeast a pass on the Birther Movement by claiming a low level staffer started the rumor. This supposedly vindicated Hillary. But the Libtards also claim Trump is responsible for his lawyer's inquiries two years before he ran for president.
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Oh. Yes it's outrageous. Is that what you want to hear? Does that excuse President Trump from responsibility for lying somehow? Am I supposed to not care? Help me with your point.

/----/ You need to prove Trump was lying. Your wishful thinking doesn't count as evidence. Here's an example to help you along.
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QUICK.....change the subject....Its getting too hot for the orange clown.....LOL

 

[Cellblock2429]

Please post photos and the address of the Trump Tower in Moscow. This could be damaging.

Somehow, Marriott, Hilton, Ritz-Carlton, etc. DID manage to work out a deal for construction in Moscow and St. Petersburg........BUT, the "greatest deal maker, Trump" failed !!!!.....LOL

/----/ He didn't like the deal. Do you accept every deal offered to you? Are you going to attack Marriott, Hilton and the Ritz-Carlton for doing business with Putin?

 

[nat4900]

Please post photos and the address of the Trump Tower in Moscow. This could be damaging.

At the very least......Trump...."the greatest deal-maker EVER"....fucked up on that little deal.....LOL

/----/ How so?

"Please post photos and the address of the Trump Tower in Moscow."........LOL

 

[Cellblock2429]

So for all you people who are telling me that it was an innocent connection and nothing ever happened with it, fine. That isn't my point. I don't give a hoot about the whole Russia investigation as I know how it will end up. Both "sides" will declare victory. I don't care.

My OP is about the fact that I repeatedly have had my President lie to me. I don't like it when people lie to me. Some of you folks apparently don't care if someone lies to you unless they are in the wrong tribe.

You have NO proof that Trump "lied" about anything.
You have LIB MSM attempting to string together a lot of 'ifs' and 'could bes' and what ifs' to prove Trump "lied.
Let's wait and see if any of their usual bullshit is true.
Just b/c someone in his multi-billion dollar empire spoke to a (GOD FORBID) Russian about some proposed building doesn't mean President Trump had anything to do with the initial inquiries.

/----/ On a different thread, Libtards give Hildabeast a pass on the Birther Movement by claiming a low level staffer started the rumor. This supposedly vindicated Hillary. But the Libtards also claim Trump is responsible for his lawyer's inquiries two years before he ran for president.
View attachment 146547

Oh. Yes it's outrageous. Is that what you want to hear? Does that excuse President Trump from responsibility for lying somehow? Am I supposed to not care? Help me with your point.

/----/ You need to prove Trump was lying. Your wishful thinking doesn't count as evidence. Here's an example to help you along.
View attachment 146550

QUICK.....change the subject....Its getting too hot for the orange clown.....LOL

/----/ Asking for proof of your claim is changing the subject? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[nat4900]

Are you going to attack Marriott, Hilton and the Ritz-Carlton for doing business with Putin?

Did those outfits RUN for president stating that they had NO deals with Russia???...........LOL

 

[nat4900]

Asking for proof of your claim is changing the subject?

NO, fuck head.....bringing up Bill Clinton IS changing the subject....Ask a grown up for help (or ask Hannity, quick).......LOL

 

[Cellblock2429]

Asking for proof of your claim is changing the subject?

NO, fuck head.....bringing up Bill Clinton IS changing the subject....Ask a grown up for help.......LOL

/----/ Apparently you confuse posting your opinion with providing evidence. My meme simply clarifies my request to PROVE Trump was lying. You won't because you can't.

 

[Dim Bulb]

/----/ From your link:
"The Trump Moscow proposal was simply one of many development opportunities that the Trump Organization considered and ultimately rejected," Cohen said in a written statement.
"In late January 2016, I abandoned the Moscow proposal because I lost confidence that the prospective licensee would be able to obtain the real estate, financing and government approvals necessary to bring the proposal to fruition," he added. "It was a building proposal that did not succeed and nothing more."

So for all you people who are telling me that it was an innocent connection and nothing ever happened with it, fine. That isn't my point. I don't give a hoot about the whole Russia investigation as I know how it will end up. Both "sides" will declare victory. I don't care.

My OP is about the fact that I repeatedly have had my President lie to me. I don't like it when people lie to me. Some of you folks apparently don't care if someone lies to you unless they are in the wrong tribe.

You have NO proof that Trump "lied" about anything.
You have LIB MSM attempting to string together a lot of 'ifs' and 'could bes' and what ifs' to prove Trump "lied.
Let's wait and see if any of their usual bullshit is true.
Just b/c someone in his multi-billion dollar empire spoke to a (GOD FORBID) Russian about some proposed building doesn't mean President Trump had anything to do with the initial inquiries.

/----/ On a different thread, Libtards give Hildabeast a pass on the Birther Movement by claiming a low level staffer started the rumor. This supposedly vindicated Hillary. But the Libtards also claim Trump is responsible for his lawyer's inquiries two years before he ran for president.
View attachment 146547

Oh. Yes it's outrageous. Is that what you want to hear? Does that excuse President Trump from responsibility for lying somehow? Am I supposed to not care? Help me with your point.

/----/ You need to prove Trump was lying. Your wishful thinking doesn't count as evidence. Here's an example to help you along.
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I had nothing to do with Russia. Yet his lawyer did. And reported his progress three times. And his son did. What on earth am I missing here that makes this not a lie? The fact that they never built s building? He didn't say "I had some brief conversations between my people and some Russians that never amounted to anything. " That would've been easy. But no he said "I had nothing to do with Russia". That is a lie.

 

[Cellblock2429]

So for all you people who are telling me that it was an innocent connection and nothing ever happened with it, fine. That isn't my point. I don't give a hoot about the whole Russia investigation as I know how it will end up. Both "sides" will declare victory. I don't care.

My OP is about the fact that I repeatedly have had my President lie to me. I don't like it when people lie to me. Some of you folks apparently don't care if someone lies to you unless they are in the wrong tribe.

You have NO proof that Trump "lied" about anything.
You have LIB MSM attempting to string together a lot of 'ifs' and 'could bes' and what ifs' to prove Trump "lied.
Let's wait and see if any of their usual bullshit is true.
Just b/c someone in his multi-billion dollar empire spoke to a (GOD FORBID) Russian about some proposed building doesn't mean President Trump had anything to do with the initial inquiries.

/----/ On a different thread, Libtards give Hildabeast a pass on the Birther Movement by claiming a low level staffer started the rumor. This supposedly vindicated Hillary. But the Libtards also claim Trump is responsible for his lawyer's inquiries two years before he ran for president.
View attachment 146547

Oh. Yes it's outrageous. Is that what you want to hear? Does that excuse President Trump from responsibility for lying somehow? Am I supposed to not care? Help me with your point.

/----/ You need to prove Trump was lying. Your wishful thinking doesn't count as evidence. Here's an example to help you along.
View attachment 146550

I had nothing to do with Russia. Yet his lawyer did. And reported his progress three times. And his son did. What on earth am I missing here that makes this not a lie? The fact that they never built s building? He didn't say "I had some brief conversations between my people and some Russians that never amounted to anything. " That would've been easy. But no he said "I had nothing to do with Russia". That is a lie.

/----/ If you can post any EVIDENCE that Trump personally dealt with the negotiations then post it or STFU.

 

[g5000]

/----/ Please post photos and the address of the Trump Tower in Moscow. This could be damaging.

I can just see you at an attempted murder trial asking to see the dead body.

"Without a dead body, he is innocent of attempted murder!"

 

[g5000]

This convinces me even more that Trump has assets in Russia, and that is why he can't bring himself to directly criticize or attack Putin for fear his assets will be seized.

This is one of several reasons why Trump won't release his tax returns.

 

[Dim Bulb]

You have NO proof that Trump "lied" about anything.
You have LIB MSM attempting to string together a lot of 'ifs' and 'could bes' and what ifs' to prove Trump "lied.
Let's wait and see if any of their usual bullshit is true.
Just b/c someone in his multi-billion dollar empire spoke to a (GOD FORBID) Russian about some proposed building doesn't mean President Trump had anything to do with the initial inquiries.

/----/ On a different thread, Libtards give Hildabeast a pass on the Birther Movement by claiming a low level staffer started the rumor. This supposedly vindicated Hillary. But the Libtards also claim Trump is responsible for his lawyer's inquiries two years before he ran for president.
View attachment 146547

Oh. Yes it's outrageous. Is that what you want to hear? Does that excuse President Trump from responsibility for lying somehow? Am I supposed to not care? Help me with your point.

/----/ You need to prove Trump was lying. Your wishful thinking doesn't count as evidence. Here's an example to help you along.
View attachment 146550

I had nothing to do with Russia. Yet his lawyer did. And reported his progress three times. And his son did. What on earth am I missing here that makes this not a lie? The fact that they never built s building? He didn't say "I had some brief conversations between my people and some Russians that never amounted to anything. " That would've been easy. But no he said "I had nothing to do with Russia". That is a lie.

/----/ If you can post any EVIDENCE that Trump personally dealt with the negotiations then post it or STFU.

Dude you just don't want to believe facts. His lawyer reported directly to him three times on the status of conversations. And frankly your argument doesn't work. If someone running for president says "I had nothing to do with the Russians" but his lawyer and son did and you're okay with that not being a lie, then you get the President you deserve. In this case, basically, you get a word parsing guy who reminds me more and more of Bill Clinton. The thing I don't get when I see your semi angry vitriolic defense is why on earth you can't support the President and also criticize him for lying. It's okay to do, he will still be president. But he makes it hard for people like you to have to use Bill Clinton methods to make excuses for him.

 

[mudwhistle]

A steady stream of recent email disclosures that detail what Trump and his minions were actually doing during the 2016 campaign has taken the wind out of those arguments.

Law enforcement and intelligence officials also have publicly stated that they believe that the Kremlin worked to tilt the 2016 election in the president's favor, and Robert Mueller's team at the Justice Department is examining whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Kremlin. As a result, the Trump family's business and financial operations are facing more federal scrutiny than ever.

The business aspects of Mueller's investigation are significant because they could establish whether or not the president or his campaign team were looking for financial quid pro quos in exchange for possibly colluding with the Kremlin. (A similar issue is dogging the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who met with Chinese and Russian financiers last year as he tried to bail out his family's investment in a struggling skyscraper on Fifth Avenue.)

Trump's partnership with Sater also presents lots of interesting questions.

Felix Sater Is a Lean, Mean Trump-Russia Machine

Trump Associate Boasted That Moscow Business Deal ‘Will Get Donald Elected’

Trump Lawyer Emailed Senior Russian Aide About Real Estate Proposal

Top Trump Organization executive asked Putin aide for help on business deal

Trump's personal lawyer emailed Putin's spokesman for help on a business deal during the election

Prove these are authentic and provide links to the quotes or STFU.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Trump setting up business in Russia would be a HUGE conflict of interest possibly impairing his ability to do what is best for America when it came to Russia, because it would be bad for his pocket.

Having said that, in 2015 and even 2016 I doubt Trump actually thought he is likely to win the Presidency.

Still, he DID lie repeatedly about the extent of his Russian interests, contacts, plans and communications - it could be because he is simply a compulsive liar, it could also mean he is knee deep in cover up or some combination of the two.

It's Muller's job to get to the bottom of this.

Trump lying about it has made him compromised.

Amazingly, it probably will not have effect at all.

For more than a year and half, we have known he is a pathological liar. We've known he is a thief, a cheat, a criminal and downright dumb, and his "base" love it.

Many are learning they made a terrible mistake but a lot continue to ignore the facts.

I cannot count the number of times since January that I've said to myself, "I'm just so done with this guy."

Trump attorney reached out to Kremlin to pursue Moscow Trump Tower project - CNNPolitics

/----/ From your link:
"The Trump Moscow proposal was simply one of many development opportunities that the Trump Organization considered and ultimately rejected," Cohen said in a written statement.
"In late January 2016, I abandoned the Moscow proposal because I lost confidence that the prospective licensee would be able to obtain the real estate, financing and government approvals necessary to bring the proposal to fruition," he added. "It was a building proposal that did not succeed and nothing more."

So for all you people who are telling me that it was an innocent connection and nothing ever happened with it, fine. That isn't my point. I don't give a hoot about the whole Russia investigation as I know how it will end up. Both "sides" will declare victory. I don't care.

My OP is about the fact that I repeatedly have had my President lie to me. I don't like it when people lie to me. Some of you folks apparently don't care if someone lies to you unless they are in the wrong tribe.

You have NO proof that Trump "lied" about anything.
You have LIB MSM attempting to string together a lot of 'ifs' and 'could bes' and what ifs' to prove Trump "lied.
Let's wait and see if any of their usual bullshit is true.
Just b/c someone in his multi-billion dollar empire spoke to a (GOD FORBID) Russian about some proposed building doesn't mean President Trump had anything to do with the initial inquiries.

Well, except for all those videos, letters, tweets where pino trump lies, AND all those videos, letters, tweets where his spawn lies, AND all those times his minions lied ...

 

[mudwhistle]

So for all you people who are telling me that it was an innocent connection and nothing ever happened with it, fine. That isn't my point. I don't give a hoot about the whole Russia investigation as I know how it will end up. Both "sides" will declare victory. I don't care.

My OP is about the fact that I repeatedly have had my President lie to me. I don't like it when people lie to me. Some of you folks apparently don't care if someone lies to you unless they are in the wrong tribe.

You have NO proof that Trump "lied" about anything.
You have LIB MSM attempting to string together a lot of 'ifs' and 'could bes' and what ifs' to prove Trump "lied.
Let's wait and see if any of their usual bullshit is true.
Just b/c someone in his multi-billion dollar empire spoke to a (GOD FORBID) Russian about some proposed building doesn't mean President Trump had anything to do with the initial inquiries.

/----/ On a different thread, Libtards give Hildabeast a pass on the Birther Movement by claiming a low level staffer started the rumor. This supposedly vindicated Hillary. But the Libtards also claim Trump is responsible for his lawyer's inquiries two years before he ran for president.
View attachment 146547

Oh. Yes it's outrageous. Is that what you want to hear? Does that excuse President Trump from responsibility for lying somehow? Am I supposed to not care? Help me with your point.

/----/ You need to prove Trump was lying. Your wishful thinking doesn't count as evidence. Here's an example to help you along.
View attachment 146550

I had nothing to do with Russia. Yet his lawyer did. And reported his progress three times. And his son did. What on earth am I missing here that makes this not a lie? The fact that they never built s building? He didn't say "I had some brief conversations between my people and some Russians that never amounted to anything. " That would've been easy. But no he said "I had nothing to do with Russia". That is a lie.

Oh......so discussions by his company on Russia proves he had something to do with Russia personally?

If China talks among themselves about the United States do they have something to do with how our country acts? Does every country that mentions America run this country? If they don't deal with us but simply talk about us in private, does that mean they have something to do with us????

 

[Luddly Neddite]

well, well, well... who would have guessed the gilded charlatan is a big fat liar...??



80 times Trump talked about Putin



Trump business associate, Felix Sater, wrote a series of e-mails to Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, in which he boasted about his ties to Putin and predicted that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would be a political boon to Trump’s candidacy.


“Buddy our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Sater wrote in an e-mail. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

The e-mails show that, from the earliest months of Trump’s campaign, his associates viewed close ties with Moscow as a political advantage. Those ties are now under investigation by the Justice Department and multiple congressional committees.

“I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected,” Sater wrote.

‘Our boy can become president . . . and we can engineer it,’ Trump ally said of Russia deal - The Boston Globe

But the nutters STILL say there's no "proof".

 

[g5000]

“I really prefer Moscow over all cities in the world." - Donald Trump, Jr.


Trump Jr.’s love affair with Moscow

“We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” he said of Trump Organization properties. “There’s indeed a lot of money coming for new-builds and resale reflecting a trend in the Russian economy and, of course, the weak dollar versus the ruble.”

 

[mudwhistle]

Maxine Waters is so convinced that Bush Colluded with the Russians ,,,yet she never had any evidence,,,,just like she assumed tha Putin invaded Ukraine and dropped a few Mother Of All Bombs on them

waters is a ranking member on the house financial services committee, which is participating in the investigations into russia's interference. she has been privy to classified info.... & you aren't.

She also is a lying Democrat.
I hate to break it to you folks but we knew about Trump owning a multi-national corporation decades ago.
Just releasing shit about their considering building a tower in Russia isn't a secret.
And none of this is or ever was against the law.
This is just old news that the media is releasing that is intended to push their fucked up Russia collusion scam.

I don't think it was against the law to talk, I think it's just another piece of the Russian/Trump connection and possible quid pro quo.

Plus Trump lied about all of his connections....prosecutors and investigators take that as, having something to hide and will dig deeper.

No. It's a hypothetical based on a false narrative floated by Democrats perpetrated by the media. They're lying to you and trying to use unrelated situations to draw a false conclusion.

Whats worse is you dipshits are using a proposal that never became reality to base your arguments from. You have to read so much into your reference material and assume things that never happened for it to be even possible.

Never mind that you don't seem to understand how a large multi-national corporation works. Not every idea originates from the CEO. Trump's companies looked into building in dozens of countries. Russia was only one of them. They decided it was a waste of time, yet this allegedly proves colluding somehow. Grasping at straws much?

"Let's look into building in Russia!"
"Sorry sir, it doesn't make any sense!"
"OK, forget about it!"

This proves Collusion.

How dumb can you get.

Did he lie when he said he had nothing to do with Russia or not? That's my only issue. This is only the latest lie.

No. The next question should if he ever talked about or even mentioned Russia. Or if he ever uses Russian Dressing!!!

If he says no then BY GOD YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING!!!