Trump Hammers Biden Over Troops Killed In Afghanistan Pullout

[struth]

How many would have died if trump withdrew us? We will neve4 know. It would have been > than 13 and you would have said 13 was low

Trump wouldn't of withdrew if the agreement wasn't met

 

[rightwinger]

what am I cherry picking? This is Harris and XIden's legacy in Afghan

Biden got us out of Afghanistan with fewer casualties than Trump

If you get to Cherry Pick Trumps legacy.
Except for one act of terrorism, Biden had no deaths while Trump had 34

 

[rightwinger]

Trump wouldn't of withdrew if the agreement wasn't met

Trump was already ignoring Taliban violations

 

[rightwinger]

The taliban didn't want any deaths before we left. That might make us stay. So they laid low till we were literally flying out and they attacked. They wanted to be seen as chasing us out.

They would have done it to Trump had we not stolen the election from him.

Taliban did not attack us
The terrorist bomb was by ISIS

Who Trump bragged about eliminating

 

[sealybobo]

Taliban did not attack us
The terrorist bomb was by ISIS

Who Trump bragged about eliminating

Well those guys were going to come out and start shooting as our planes were taxi'ing to the runway. They wanted to photo op of them chasing us out. Would have happened to Trump too. So would have Benghazi because Trump would have been busy at Mara Lago showing off top secret documents to friends or golfing

 

[AntonToo]

Um your link doesn’t say anything about him advocating for a full withdrawal as you claim

Um you are full of shit as usual.

The 2009 trip persuaded him that the policy was failing.

"What he saw and heard on the trip," Obama wrote in his 2020 memoir, "A Promised Land," "convinced him that we needed to rethink our entire approach" and that Afghanistan was a "dangerous quagmire."

Biden was sometimes the only senior White House official opposing troop surges to back the counterinsurgency strategy.
Yet the years that passed only sharpened Biden's concerns and those of close aides, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

"Biden argued throughout the process, and would continue to argue, that the war was politically unsustainable at home," Robert Gates, a defense secretary under Obama who clashed with Biden, said in a 2014 memoir.

Here is Biden promising 2014 withdrawal:

Biden's 2012 Comments About Leaving Afghanistan 'Period' in 2014 Resurface

"We are leaving in 2014," Biden promised during a 2012 vice presidential debate.

www.newsweek.com

He was consistently advocating draw down and withdrawal, even if most in Obama administration disagreed with him.

 

[struth]

Um you full of shit as usual.

The 2009 trip persuaded him that the policy was failing.

"What he saw and heard on the trip," Obama wrote in his 2020 memoir, "A Promised Land," "convinced him that we needed to rethink our entire approach" and that Afghanistan was a "dangerous quagmire."

Biden was sometimes the only senior White House official opposing troop surges to back the counterinsurgency strategy.
Yet the years that passed only sharpened Biden's concerns and those of close aides, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

"Biden argued throughout the process, and would continue to argue, that the war was politically unsustainable at home," Robert Gates, a defense secretary under Obama who clashed with Biden, said in a 2014 memoir.

opposing surges, isn't the same as wanting a complete withdraw

 

[struth]

Trump was already ignoring Taliban violations

haha no he wasn't, hence why we maintained the 2500 troops the military recommended

 

[struth]

Biden got us out of Afghanistan with fewer casualties than Trump

If you get to Cherry Pick Trumps legacy.
Except for one act of terrorism, Biden had no deaths while Trump had 34

what? what a weird statement....trump didn't withdraw all our troops....so not sure what you are comparing.

 

[AntonToo]

opposing surges, isn't the same as wanting a complete withdraw

Biden's 2012 Comments About Leaving Afghanistan 'Period' in 2014 Resurface

"We are leaving in 2014," Biden promised during a 2012 vice presidential debate.

www.newsweek.com

He was consistently advocating draw down and withdrawal, even if most in Obama administration disagreed with him.

 

[rightwinger]

haha no he wasn't, hence why we maintained the 2500 troops the military recommended

He still had a deadline to remove those troops.

He only left Biden 2500 troops to cover the withdrawal
It wasn’t enough

 

[sealybobo]

Got a link to him saying that?

Also, Obama was against Iraq. Hillary was conned into going along. Probably why she was labeled a hawk and Obama beat her.

In politics, the terms war hawk and hawk are used to describe a person who favors starting armed conflicts or escalating ongoing ones instead of attempting to solve problems through dialogue or other non-violent methods. Hawkish individuals are the opposite of war doves, who advocate negotiations and peaceful settlements to resolve disputes and view the option of going to war as one to be avoided by any means necessary.

 

[struth]

Biden's 2012 Comments About Leaving Afghanistan 'Period' in 2014 Resurface

"We are leaving in 2014," Biden promised during a 2012 vice presidential debate.

www.newsweek.com

He was consistently advocating draw down and withdrawal, even if most in Obama administration disagreed with him.

When did he advocate for a withdraw? Certainly, I don't disagree he opposed the surge

 

[sealybobo]

what? what a weird statement....trump didn't withdraw all our troops....so not sure what you are comparing.

More soldiers died in Afghanistan in Trump's 4 years than Biden's 4. That's where he's going with this.

 

[struth]

He still had a deadline to remove those troops.

He only left Biden 2500 troops to cover the withdrawal
It wasn’t enough

what are you talking about? The military already testified they told Xiden to leave 2500 troops there. Xiden ignored them, and ignored the agreement

you are right, there was still a deadline when trump was in office, so not sure how ignored anything.

 

[struth]

More soldiers died in Afghanistan in Trump's 4 years than Biden's 4. That's where he's going with this.

Well that seems rather stupid to compare since Xiden and Harris surrendered in the first year in office.

 

[struth]

Also, Obama was against Iraq. Hillary was conned into going along. Probably why she was labeled a hawk and Obama beat her.

In politics, the terms war hawk and hawk are used to describe a person who favors starting armed conflicts or escalating ongoing ones instead of attempting to solve problems through dialogue or other non-violent methods. Hawkish individuals are the opposite of war doves, who advocate negotiations and peaceful settlements to resolve disputes and view the option of going to war as one to be avoided by any means necessary.

Clinton and Xiden were massive war hawks, Obama was too....he got us in to more wars in the middle east.

 

[AntonToo]

When did he advocate for a withdraw? Certainly, I don't disagree he opposed the surge

Dumbass, what part of WE ARE LEAVING, PERIOD do you not get?

By all acounts he pushed for it the entire time he was in the Obama admin.

 

[rightwinger]

what are you talking about? The military already testified they told Xiden to leave 2500 troops there. Xiden ignored them, and ignored the agreement

you are right, there was still a deadline when trump was in office, so not sure how ignored anything.

What would have happened if Biden left 2500 troops after the agreed to withdrawal date with the Taliban?

A lot more deaths than the 13 you keep harping on

 

[rightwinger]

Clinton and Xiden were massive war hawks, Obama was too....he got us in to more wars in the middle east.

Wars started by Clinton …..none
Wars started by Obama …..none
Wars started by Biden…..none

Wars started by Republucans……Kuwait, .Afghanistan and Iraq
Killing 10,000 Americans