Trump is Finished

[cereal_killer]

Oh wait another op ed on how Donald Trump is going to fade away...interesting. This one must be true.

>>>>>>>>Trump will end up the Republican nominee<<<<<<<< (you can take that to the bank)

Fiorina is a war monger and pretty clueless, Carson, while a great guy, is VP material if anything..the rest of the idiots are well...idiots.

I am sure you can produce a list of columns to back up your claim.
Meanwhile, it is entirely predictable Trump will fade. Virtually every outsider does. Mainly because they suck at politics, which is a learned skill.

LOL Politics is a learned SKILL? No......... Politics is learned BULLSHIT. This is why he will end up the nominee, people are tired of the bullshit. It was bound to happen. The whole climate was a powder keg waiting for someone like Trump to come along and light the fuse. He got in at the right time. Same goes for Carson. Why are these two leading? Because they are skilled Politicians? Lol hell no, they are anything but.

People are tired of Politicians saying all the right things and then doing the complete opposite or nothing at all. This election is like no other. When you got "skilled politicians" sitting in the single digits that speaks volumes. It's over for them. Only chance they have is if Carson and/or Trump fuck up.

I rea;ize you are a simpleton. But politics is an art and a skill. Some people are good at it. SOme arent. Some people get better,
But look at the history of non-politicians running for major office and they usually fail. There are some exceptions, like Eisenhower. But circumstances can explain those.

Yes it's an art and skill in bullshit. I see through it as do a lot of people. I can see/hear them reciting their little scripts they memorize. "If I'm elected President (begin to raise voice for emphasis) I will make sure every American (raise voice even more) has clean and fresh (begin shouting) DRINKING WATER!!!!" *take in applause*

Again, the Politicians are sitting in the single digits for a reason. We've heard it all before, we've seen it all before. Game over man! Game over!.

And they get elected and serve, often very honorably and the best you've done in life is be moderator here.

You cannot be serious

Rabbi really?

 

[Iceweasel]

Trump won't win the nomination. His following is loyal so far but no one ranks lower with unfavorables with middle and left leaning voters. He's a divider, not uniter.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump will not get the nomination without the support of the mainstream. That will not happen.

The 70% of the party, the mainstream, will not support Trump and will boot the far right cons out on their asses. Good riddance.

70% of the Party will not win the election though. If the Repubs want to play that game, they can. Most of them are career politicians, many Congress men and women who can retire on a hefty retirement anyway and probably really don't care who actually wins the election anyway. They are not going to do anything to aid the country regardless as to who wins.

We will recast the party so that the far right will slink off. We will replace you with the younger genxrs and millennials, strong in femine and minority concerns and issues. Your day is over.

 

[The Rabbi]

I am sure you can produce a list of columns to back up your claim.
Meanwhile, it is entirely predictable Trump will fade. Virtually every outsider does. Mainly because they suck at politics, which is a learned skill.

LOL Politics is a learned SKILL? No......... Politics is learned BULLSHIT. This is why he will end up the nominee, people are tired of the bullshit. It was bound to happen. The whole climate was a powder keg waiting for someone like Trump to come along and light the fuse. He got in at the right time. Same goes for Carson. Why are these two leading? Because they are skilled Politicians? Lol hell no, they are anything but.

People are tired of Politicians saying all the right things and then doing the complete opposite or nothing at all. This election is like no other. When you got "skilled politicians" sitting in the single digits that speaks volumes. It's over for them. Only chance they have is if Carson and/or Trump fuck up.

I rea;ize you are a simpleton. But politics is an art and a skill. Some people are good at it. SOme arent. Some people get better,
But look at the history of non-politicians running for major office and they usually fail. There are some exceptions, like Eisenhower. But circumstances can explain those.

Yes it's an art and skill in bullshit. I see through it as do a lot of people. I can see/hear them reciting their little scripts they memorize. "If I'm elected President (begin to raise voice for emphasis) I will make sure every American (raise voice even more) has clean and fresh (begin shouting) DRINKING WATER!!!!" *take in applause*

Again, the Politicians are sitting in the single digits for a reason. We've heard it all before, we've seen it all before. Game over man! Game over!.

And they get elected and serve, often very honorably and the best you've done in life is be moderator here.

You cannot be serious

Rabbi really?

Yeah honest. A whole list of them. Your attitde of "they all suck" is typical of ignorant people whose knowledge of politics comes from Yahoo headlines.

 

[amrchaos]

I don't really see this "fading star" for Trump as others claim. His numbers has peaked in the 30 and then fell back to above 20 during the week after the 1st debate.

At worst, he is stagnant.

Sorry guys. You need trump falling into the teens before you can toast his demise. Probably need another month for that and then it is not assured.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sure it is; he will fail.

 

[bripat9643]

The great Daniel Heninger explains why Trump is past his sell by date.

Trump: Odd Man Out
The oddest moment in the second GOP debate was when the first thing Donald Trump did was to launch an assault on Sen. Rand Paul, who was standing about three miles away at the end of the podiums: “Well, first of all, Rand Paul shouldn’t even be on this stage. He’s number 11, he’s got 1% in the polls, and how he got up here, there’s far too many people anyway.” Ummm, what was that all about?

Since that Sept. 16 debate, as measured by the RealClearPolitics polling average, Mr. Trump has lost about a quarter of his support, down to 23% from 30% on the eve of the debate. In this week’s Wall Street Journal/NBC poll, he is at 21%.

It’s not going to get better. The Trump numbers are going to drift sideways, or fall.

A few weeks ago, Mr. Trump tweeted that getting his business out of Atlantic City before the casinos collapsed was “great timing.” The moment has come for the timing master to recognize it’s Atlantic City all over again. For his phenomenal presidential campaign, it’s time to go.

In politics, there’s that famous thing known as Big Mo—momentum. Donald Trump had Big Mo like no one’s ever seen. It’s gone. The odds are he’ll soon be in second or third place, behind someone he insulted as a loser, as the heartless, mocking media will note. He’s not going to enjoy not being on top.

Politics is about winning at the margin. It is about securing a base of voter support and then finding ways to attract additional voters at the margin. In the highly partisan presidential elections since 2000, the Republican and Democratic nominees both have had a base vote rotating in the mid-40s. Then the candidates have to add marginal votes toward the 50% threshold. (In 2000, with third-party candidate Ralph Nader getting 3%, George W. Bush and Al Gore both finished with about 48%, hanging chads and a generation of political bitterness.)

The Trump candidacy is pure base, and Mr. Trump has not built out from that base, which topped out at about 30%. It’s become obvious that this third of angry conservative voters is volatile. Mr. Trump’s famous support base has eroded, dispersing to the other outsider candidates, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina.

More important, it is now clear that Mr. Trump is personally incapable of doing what is necessary to expand beyond his early burst of support. The tax plan he released this week, admirable as a broad outline, is supposed to show he’s getting serious. That’s the problem. His core base didn’t want that kind of serious.

Even at the level of performance art, what’s happening now is the slow-motion disintegration of “Trump.” His candidacy is detouring into weird and confusing fights, such as the “boycott” of Fox News. News reports on the Trump candidacy increasingly note remarks from admirers who essentially say: I really like that he tells it like it is, but I’m not sure he’s a good fit for the presidency.

The pace of volatility in contemporary politics is unprecedented, as a 74-year-old Vermont socialist is revealing to the preordained candidacy of Hillary Clinton. That the improbable Mr. Trump could rise and then flatline in so little time is startling but not surprising. What Mr. Trump ought to recognize is that his place in the 2015 moment—his political legacy—is secure, unless he lets it evaporate.

Donald Trump was the first person to tap into the zeitgeist of disgust coursing through politics everywhere. The fed-up voters of Guatemala have just made a TV comedian with no political experience the top finisher in their first-round presidential vote. In Spain, a referendum last Sunday revealed many in Catalonia would jump off the political cliff to separate from Madrid, their version of despised Washington.

In the 1996 presidential campaign, the Republican nominee, Sen. Bob Dole, coined a political phrase for the ages: “Where’s the outrage?” That’s the question a lot of Republican voters were asking themselves about their declared presidential candidates earlier this year: Where’s the outrage? With Donald Trump’s June 16 presidential announcement, they finally got it.

Mr. Trump’s singular personality is simply at odds with the political skills necessary to carry that mood any further than his mere arrival accomplished. His support is moving to candidates who are variations on the Trump theme. What people saw and heard in Carly Fiorina was your basic straight-razor woman. Her rage looks to be about one degree below boiling. Ben Carson radiates an intelligent everyman’s bemusement at a gridlocked system.
-more at the source.

Everyone has been claiming and predicting Trump's demise ever since he announced. Guess what? He continues to LEAD.

Every time the media predicts his demise, he jumps in the polls.

 

[the_human_being]

Trump will not get the nomination without the support of the mainstream. That will not happen.

The 70% of the party, the mainstream, will not support Trump and will boot the far right cons out on their asses. Good riddance.

70% of the Party will not win the election though. If the Repubs want to play that game, they can. Most of them are career politicians, many Congress men and women who can retire on a hefty retirement anyway and probably really don't care who actually wins the election anyway. They are not going to do anything to aid the country regardless as to who wins.

We will recast the party so that the far right will slink off. We will replace you with the younger genxrs and millennials, strong in femine and minority concerns and issues. Your day is over.

Such are the dreams of the everyday Liberal.

 

[the_human_being]

Trump will not get the nomination without the support of the mainstream. That will not happen.

The 70% of the party, the mainstream, will not support Trump and will boot the far right cons out on their asses. Good riddance.

70% of the Party will not win the election though. If the Repubs want to play that game, they can. Most of them are career politicians, many Congress men and women who can retire on a hefty retirement anyway and probably really don't care who actually wins the election anyway. They are not going to do anything to aid the country regardless as to who wins.

We will recast the party so that the far right will slink off. We will replace you with the younger genxrs and millennials, strong in femine and minority concerns and issues. Your day is over.

They don't have the money. We're the ones with the funding.

 

[sealybobo]

Ya because Sleepy the dwarf is so much more attractive.

Let's be honest if just for a moment. The GOP is NOT going to nominate a black candidate. They are no where close to doing so. And certainly not after 8 years of a black Democrat administration.

Is "Sleepy" some racial dig? Carson hs done more in the last 10 minutes than you've done your whole life.
But how about addressing hte OP?

It's too long. Trump is winning over moderate Democrats and Republicans. He probably will win 40% and hillary and jeb will win 30% each.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump will not get the nomination without the support of the mainstream. That will not happen.

The 70% of the party, the mainstream, will not support Trump and will boot the far right cons out on their asses. Good riddance.

70% of the Party will not win the election though. If the Repubs want to play that game, they can. Most of them are career politicians, many Congress men and women who can retire on a hefty retirement anyway and probably really don't care who actually wins the election anyway. They are not going to do anything to aid the country regardless as to who wins.

We will recast the party so that the far right will slink off. We will replace you with the younger genxrs and millennials, strong in femine and minority concerns and issues. Your day is over.

Such are the dreams of the everyday Liberal.

Your delusions play themselves out in nonsense, for I am not a liberal and you are not a patriot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump will not get the nomination without the support of the mainstream. That will not happen.

The 70% of the party, the mainstream, will not support Trump and will boot the far right cons out on their asses. Good riddance.

70% of the Party will not win the election though. If the Repubs want to play that game, they can. Most of them are career politicians, many Congress men and women who can retire on a hefty retirement anyway and probably really don't care who actually wins the election anyway. They are not going to do anything to aid the country regardless as to who wins.

We will recast the party so that the far right will slink off. We will replace you with the younger genxrs and millennials, strong in femine and minority concerns and issues. Your day is over.

They don't have the money. We're the ones with the funding.

You indeed are deluded. When Trump drop out, he will take his money with him to a third party.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ya because Sleepy the dwarf is so much more attractive.

Let's be honest if just for a moment. The GOP is NOT going to nominate a black candidate. They are no where close to doing so. And certainly not after 8 years of a black Democrat administration.

Is "Sleepy" some racial dig? Carson hs done more in the last 10 minutes than you've done your whole life.
But how about addressing hte OP?

It's too long. Trump is winning over moderate Democrats and Republicans. He probably will win 40% and hillary and jeb will win 30% each.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump will not get the nomination without the support of the mainstream. That will not happen.

The 70% of the party, the mainstream, will not support Trump and will boot the far right cons out on their asses. Good riddance.

70% of the Party will not win the election though. If the Repubs want to play that game, they can. Most of them are career politicians, many Congress men and women who can retire on a hefty retirement anyway and probably really don't care who actually wins the election anyway. They are not going to do anything to aid the country regardless as to who wins.

We will recast the party so that the far right will slink off. We will replace you with the younger genxrs and millennials, strong in femine and minority concerns and issues. Your day is over.

They don't have the money. We're the ones with the funding.

You indeed are deluded. When Trump drop out, he will take his money with him to a third party.

That would be fine with me as both parties are corrupt to the core.
Trumps crowds are showing up everywhere and he's going to the Oval Office either through the R or I Party.

 

[sealybobo]

Ya because Sleepy the dwarf is so much more attractive.

Let's be honest if just for a moment. The GOP is NOT going to nominate a black candidate. They are no where close to doing so. And certainly not after 8 years of a black Democrat administration.

Is "Sleepy" some racial dig? Carson hs done more in the last 10 minutes than you've done your whole life.
But how about addressing hte OP?

It's too long. Trump is winning over moderate Democrats and Republicans. He probably will win 40% and hillary and jeb will win 30% each.

As long as one of the other 12 GOP dwarfs doesn't win I'm good.

 

[Indeependent]

[QUOTE="The Rabbi, post: 12448239, member: 20947"
I rea;ize you are a simpleton. But politics is an art and a skill. Some people are good at it. SOme arent. Some people get better,
But look at the history of non-politicians running for major office and they usually fail. There are some exceptions, like Eisenhower. But circumstances can explain those.

Keep smoking that crack pipe, little fake rabid rabbit rabbi.[/QUOTE]

TheRabbi, as always, posts a plethora of concrete information to back up his usual general statements.

 

[sealybobo]

[QUOTE="The Rabbi, post: 12448239, member: 20947"
I rea;ize you are a simpleton. But politics is an art and a skill. Some people are good at it. SOme arent. Some people get better,
But look at the history of non-politicians running for major office and they usually fail. There are some exceptions, like Eisenhower. But circumstances can explain those.

Keep smoking that crack pipe, little fake rabid rabbit rabbi.[/QUOTE]
How about b actor turned politician Reagan?

 

[browsing deer]

[QUOTE="The Rabbi, post: 12448239, member: 20947"
I rea;ize you are a simpleton. But politics is an art and a skill. Some people are good at it. SOme arent. Some people get better,
But look at the history of non-politicians running for major office and they usually fail. There are some exceptions, like Eisenhower. But circumstances can explain those.

Keep smoking that crack pipe, little fake rabid rabbit rabbi.[/QUOTE]
I love it when jews fight. Such fun insults you come up with.
The anti semites are colossally repetitive and boring boring boring. They plagiarize and put you to sleep.

Trump has made too many people angry with him.

His tax plan borrowed Reagan's ideas, without the intellectual ideas underpinning them. It is bound to fail.

 

[sealybobo]

[QUOTE="The Rabbi, post: 12448239, member: 20947"
I rea;ize you are a simpleton. But politics is an art and a skill. Some people are good at it. SOme arent. Some people get better,
But look at the history of non-politicians running for major office and they usually fail. There are some exceptions, like Eisenhower. But circumstances can explain those.

Keep smoking that crack pipe, little fake rabid rabbit rabbi.

I love it when jews fight. Such fun insults you come up with.
The anti semites are colossally repetitive and boring boring boring. They plagiarize and put you to sleep.

Trump has made too many people angry with him.

His tax plan borrowed Reagan's ideas, without the intellectual ideas underpinning them. It is bound to fail.[/QUOTE]
He should have said he was going to raise taxes on the rich and cut middle class taxes.

Not only is that popular and the right thing to do, it will work.

It's so obvious. What makes companies hire? Demand. Put money in the middle classes pockets everyone wins.

 

[S.J.]

[QUOTE="The Rabbi, post: 12448239, member: 20947"
I rea;ize you are a simpleton. But politics is an art and a skill. Some people are good at it. SOme arent. Some people get better,
But look at the history of non-politicians running for major office and they usually fail. There are some exceptions, like Eisenhower. But circumstances can explain those.

Keep smoking that crack pipe, little fake rabid rabbit rabbi.

How about b actor turned politician Reagan?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, turned out to be the best president of the 20th century. Go figure.