Trump Made A Mistake

That's a great point, Ray! The witnesses in the House Impeachment Inquiry all testified under oath. Trump defenders under oath? Not on their lives.

Agreed. So what's your point? The only witness that testified to having an actual conversation with the President was Sondland, and he testified that the President instructed him not to use a quid pro quo, and wanted nothing in return from Zelensky. The rest of the witnesses presumed, assumed, were told by a party of another party, of another party.

He testified there was a quid pro quo, and everyone was in the loop.



Talk to Rudy.


Nice try, but if you listen to what he said, he said he got that idea from Rudy--not Trump. So when he talked to Trump directly, Trump said no quid pro quo.

Should Giuliani testify?

We have the President telling even the President of Ukraine to get with Giuliani in his call....

Giuliani was the President's front man, and he told everyone, to follow Giuliani's direction or lead.

That is why all the diplomats who did not speak to Trump directly, knew what the President wanted done, on the Biden's, Crowdstrike, investigations, and public announcement by the Ukraine of such for the coveted D.C. visit, and aid.


They did not create this story out of the blue, it was at the direction of the President thru his direction to follow Giuliani.


Should Rudy testify to who? Lady Piglosi refuses to send the articles to the Senate. Unless Mitch goes over her head and has a hearing without the articles, then there is nobody to testify to at this point. On the other hand, Mitch should give her a time limit, and if she doesn't move them forward, the impeachment should be null and void.

But if she does send them up, Mitch has stated there will be no witnesses. It will be a flat out vote.

Sondland testified that he was not sure what Trump wanted which is why he called him direct. And Trump's own words were that he didn't want anything.

In case you haven't noticed, the House and Senate are on Holiday break right now, and not in session... they will be back January 7th, and the Senate will likely get the impeachment documents within the week of their return.
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.
 
Agreed. So what's your point? The only witness that testified to having an actual conversation with the President was Sondland, and he testified that the President instructed him not to use a quid pro quo, and wanted nothing in return from Zelensky. The rest of the witnesses presumed, assumed, were told by a party of another party, of another party.

He testified there was a quid pro quo, and everyone was in the loop.



Talk to Rudy.


Nice try, but if you listen to what he said, he said he got that idea from Rudy--not Trump. So when he talked to Trump directly, Trump said no quid pro quo.

Should Giuliani testify?

We have the President telling even the President of Ukraine to get with Giuliani in his call....

Giuliani was the President's front man, and he told everyone, to follow Giuliani's direction or lead.

That is why all the diplomats who did not speak to Trump directly, knew what the President wanted done, on the Biden's, Crowdstrike, investigations, and public announcement by the Ukraine of such for the coveted D.C. visit, and aid.


They did not create this story out of the blue, it was at the direction of the President thru his direction to follow Giuliani.


Should Rudy testify to who? Lady Piglosi refuses to send the articles to the Senate. Unless Mitch goes over her head and has a hearing without the articles, then there is nobody to testify to at this point. On the other hand, Mitch should give her a time limit, and if she doesn't move them forward, the impeachment should be null and void.

But if she does send them up, Mitch has stated there will be no witnesses. It will be a flat out vote.

Sondland testified that he was not sure what Trump wanted which is why he called him direct. And Trump's own words were that he didn't want anything.

In case you haven't noticed, the House and Senate are on Holiday break right now, and not in session... they will be back January 7th, and the Senate will likely get the impeachment documents within the week of their return.


So why didn't she forward them before she left?
 
He testified there was a quid pro quo, and everyone was in the loop.



Talk to Rudy.


Nice try, but if you listen to what he said, he said he got that idea from Rudy--not Trump. So when he talked to Trump directly, Trump said no quid pro quo.

Should Giuliani testify?

We have the President telling even the President of Ukraine to get with Giuliani in his call....

Giuliani was the President's front man, and he told everyone, to follow Giuliani's direction or lead.

That is why all the diplomats who did not speak to Trump directly, knew what the President wanted done, on the Biden's, Crowdstrike, investigations, and public announcement by the Ukraine of such for the coveted D.C. visit, and aid.


They did not create this story out of the blue, it was at the direction of the President thru his direction to follow Giuliani.


Should Rudy testify to who? Lady Piglosi refuses to send the articles to the Senate. Unless Mitch goes over her head and has a hearing without the articles, then there is nobody to testify to at this point. On the other hand, Mitch should give her a time limit, and if she doesn't move them forward, the impeachment should be null and void.

But if she does send them up, Mitch has stated there will be no witnesses. It will be a flat out vote.

Sondland testified that he was not sure what Trump wanted which is why he called him direct. And Trump's own words were that he didn't want anything.

In case you haven't noticed, the House and Senate are on Holiday break right now, and not in session... they will be back January 7th, and the Senate will likely get the impeachment documents within the week of their return.


So why didn't she forward them before she left?

Because McConnell and Graham have admitted they are making it a kangaroo court rather than a fair trial like they have to swear an oath to do.
They both need to recuse themselves.
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.

If Trump didn't make his extortion demand of Zelensky, he wouldn't have been impeached. It's that simple.

Trump isn't going to expand his base by setting his hair on fire and whining about Pelosi. He has already gotten all the mileage he can get out of that.
 
Nice try, but if you listen to what he said, he said he got that idea from Rudy--not Trump. So when he talked to Trump directly, Trump said no quid pro quo.
Should Giuliani testify?

We have the President telling even the President of Ukraine to get with Giuliani in his call....

Giuliani was the President's front man, and he told everyone, to follow Giuliani's direction or lead.

That is why all the diplomats who did not speak to Trump directly, knew what the President wanted done, on the Biden's, Crowdstrike, investigations, and public announcement by the Ukraine of such for the coveted D.C. visit, and aid.


They did not create this story out of the blue, it was at the direction of the President thru his direction to follow Giuliani.

Should Rudy testify to who? Lady Piglosi refuses to send the articles to the Senate. Unless Mitch goes over her head and has a hearing without the articles, then there is nobody to testify to at this point. On the other hand, Mitch should give her a time limit, and if she doesn't move them forward, the impeachment should be null and void.

But if she does send them up, Mitch has stated there will be no witnesses. It will be a flat out vote.

Sondland testified that he was not sure what Trump wanted which is why he called him direct. And Trump's own words were that he didn't want anything.
In case you haven't noticed, the House and Senate are on Holiday break right now, and not in session... they will be back January 7th, and the Senate will likely get the impeachment documents within the week of their return.

So why didn't she forward them before she left?
Because McConnell and Graham have admitted they are making it a kangaroo court rather than a fair trial like they have to swear an oath to do.
They both need to recuse themselves.

If they should recuse themselves, so should every representative on the left that has been talking about impeaching Trump since before he even took office.

Nancy doesn't run the Senate no more than McConnell runs the House. You're in my town breathing my air, and what Mitch says--goes. It doesn't matter what the commies think about it. It's none of their concern.
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.

If Trump didn't make his extortion demand of Zelensky, he wouldn't have been impeached. It's that simple.

Trump isn't going to expand his base by setting his hair on fire and whining about Pelosi. He has already gotten all the mileage he can get out of that.

That's the problem. Trump extorted nobody. That's why this impeachment is all based on lies.
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.

If Trump didn't make his extortion demand of Zelensky, he wouldn't have been impeached. It's that simple.

Trump isn't going to expand his base by setting his hair on fire and whining about Pelosi. He has already gotten all the mileage he can get out of that.

That's the problem. Trump extorted nobody. That's why this impeachment is all based on lies.

The problem is the defense of Trump is, "Unh-uh", just like a toddler cookie thief. Someone else must have put those crumbs there.
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.

This is no joke, Ray. Nancy Pelosi is as serious as a heart attack.

The Constitution states that once the Articles of Impeachment are transmitted to the Senate, the Senate MUST drop all other business and hold a trial. Pelosi wanted to get NAFTA 2.0 and the Budget passed before the Christmas break, in order to prevent a government shut down, and to give a win to the workers of America for Christmas.

That fools like you are being told that Nancy is afraid to hand the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate, shows just how gullible you are. Pelosi wants Republican Senators to return to their states where 70% of all Americans, including 60% of Republicans, are asking for a proper trial in the Senate with witnesses and evidence. She wants the Senators to face their constituents before they decide whether to provide cover for this corrupt President or not. She wants these people to face their children and their grandchildren and tell them why they're lying and spreading Russian propaganda. Let's see how united Moscow Mitch's army are going to be as they face re-election next November.
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.

This is no joke, Ray. Nancy Pelosi is as serious as a heart attack.

The Constitution states that once the Articles of Impeachment are transmitted to the Senate, the Senate MUST drop all other business and hold a trial. Pelosi wanted to get NAFTA 2.0 and the Budget passed before the Christmas break, in order to prevent a government shut down, and to give a win to the workers of America for Christmas.

That fools like you are being told that Nancy is afraid to hand the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate, shows just how gullible you are. Pelosi wants Republican Senators to return to their states where 70% of all Americans, including 60% of Republicans, are asking for a proper trial in the Senate with witnesses and evidence. She wants the Senators to face their constituents before they decide whether to provide cover for this corrupt President or not. She wants these people to face their children and their grandchildren and tell them why they're lying and spreading Russian propaganda. Let's see how united Moscow Mitch's army are going to be as they face re-election next November.

Yep, that sure sounds like Quid Pro Quo.
 
Lol, she call Trump supporters a basket of deplorables. I'm sure over half of Americans support Trump now.
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She said, "HALF of Trump supporters are a basket full of Deplorables."

She specifically called HALF of them are such, NOT ALL.
So, your defending a presidential candidate calling Americans deplorables?
You are defending Impeached Tramp calling Americans "Human scum."
He is calling politicians that. Quit lying, but Hillary did call her fellow Americans deplorables. See I think Lindsay Graham is scum, because he is.
Impeached Tramp is a politician, so he is calling himself the scum he is.
Got to go through the Senate before you can gloat about impeachment.
 
She said, "HALF of Trump supporters are a basket full of Deplorables."

She specifically called HALF of them are such, NOT ALL.
So, your defending a presidential candidate calling Americans deplorables?
You are defending Impeached Tramp calling Americans "Human scum."
He is calling politicians that. Quit lying, but Hillary did call her fellow Americans deplorables. See I think Lindsay Graham is scum, because he is.
Impeached Tramp is a politician, so he is calling himself the scum he is.
Got to go through the Senate before you can gloat about impeachment.
Where exactly in the Constitution does it say that?
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.

This is no joke, Ray. Nancy Pelosi is as serious as a heart attack.

The Constitution states that once the Articles of Impeachment are transmitted to the Senate, the Senate MUST drop all other business and hold a trial. Pelosi wanted to get NAFTA 2.0 and the Budget passed before the Christmas break, in order to prevent a government shut down, and to give a win to the workers of America for Christmas.

That fools like you are being told that Nancy is afraid to hand the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate, shows just how gullible you are. Pelosi wants Republican Senators to return to their states where 70% of all Americans, including 60% of Republicans, are asking for a proper trial in the Senate with witnesses and evidence. She wants the Senators to face their constituents before they decide whether to provide cover for this corrupt President or not. She wants these people to face their children and their grandchildren and tell them why they're lying and spreading Russian propaganda. Let's see how united Moscow Mitch's army are going to be as they face re-election next November.

Ah yes, you leftist mind readers again. You know what Piglosi was thinking. Well bad news for you: Piglosi doesn't know what Piglosi is thinking.

Oh, such important business that they didn't have time to send it to the Senate, but plenty of time to impeach him first.

The polls are working against the Democrats now. I have no idea where you're getting YOUR information from. If the polls were with the commies, those articles would have been sent the next day.
 
Pelosi will send the Articles to the Senate after the crackpot in the White House has had a couple of weeks to stew over them. She only delayed one business day, so far, and that allowed space for an editorial from Christianity Today, calling for Trump's removal, and an endorsement from Vladimir Putin, supporting Trump. More news will come out, more leaks will happen, Rudy will shoot his foot another time or two. 70+% of Independents want to hear from some of the witnesses Trump has blocked. Give it time.

Piglosi is playing a game because even she knows this has been a giant joke right from the beginning. She's trying to keep the radicals in her party happy along with her base, but fully understands what goes around comes around, and this impeachment war will always be known as being started by the Democrats.

So now that she made the radicals happy, she's trying to find a way to backpedal out of this. Trump will be using this impeachment as a campaign issue, to rile up his base and bring fair minded people who see this for what it really is to come out and vote Republican in 20.

If Trump didn't make his extortion demand of Zelensky, he wouldn't have been impeached. It's that simple.

Trump isn't going to expand his base by setting his hair on fire and whining about Pelosi. He has already gotten all the mileage he can get out of that.

That's the problem. Trump extorted nobody. That's why this impeachment is all based on lies.

The problem is the defense of Trump is, "Unh-uh", just like a toddler cookie thief. Someone else must have put those crumbs there.

There are no crumbs anywhere. Trump has been overt about this since the beginning. That's what threw the Democrats off track. Trump provided the transcript as soon as he could which they were not expecting. They wanted to try and impeach Trump without the transcript figuring that the public would just take their word what was in it.

Trump is smarter than that and had nothing to hide. So he showed the public what took place in the conversation. Of course now that we know, we realize what a farce this is. No quid pro quo, Trump got nothing in return, and if anybody is doing damage to Biden, it's the Democrats for trying to make it a central issue for impeachment.
 
Let's see, your guy wanted Putin to wait till after the election. So he could kiss his ass better. Your guy?
Nobody kisses Putin's ass more and better than Impeached Tramp!
Please tell us how? I mean it's not like he gave Putin Crimea.
Impeached Tramp DID give Putin Crimea when he told leaders at a G7 summit dinner that Crimea is Russian because its people speak Russian.

When a reporter approached Trump during a morning event and asked him about the cold-blooded murderer President Putin?"

Trump responded: "He is a great guy. I think we had a really good meeting. I think he is a good person, we started discussing trade. I think we should have trade between Russia and USA, two great countries. We had a great meeting yesterday. He is a terrific person. Thank you very much."
You man child Obama gave Putin Crimea. Oh and he kissed Putin's ass also.
 
So, your defending a presidential candidate calling Americans deplorables?
You are defending Impeached Tramp calling Americans "Human scum."
He is calling politicians that. Quit lying, but Hillary did call her fellow Americans deplorables. See I think Lindsay Graham is scum, because he is.
Impeached Tramp is a politician, so he is calling himself the scum he is.
Got to go through the Senate before you can gloat about impeachment.
Where exactly in the Constitution does it say that?
If Pelosi sits on it, the Senate can void it.
 
Let's see, your guy wanted Putin to wait till after the election. So he could kiss his ass better. Your guy?
Nobody kisses Putin's ass more and better than Impeached Tramp!
Please tell us how? I mean it's not like he gave Putin Crimea.
Impeached Tramp DID give Putin Crimea when he told leaders at a G7 summit dinner that Crimea is Russian because its people speak Russian.

When a reporter approached Trump during a morning event and asked him about the cold-blooded murderer President Putin?"

Trump responded: "He is a great guy. I think we had a really good meeting. I think he is a good person, we started discussing trade. I think we should have trade between Russia and USA, two great countries. We had a great meeting yesterday. He is a terrific person. Thank you very much."
You man child Obama gave Putin Crimea. Oh and he kissed Putin's ass also.
A presidential BULLSHIT to you.
Impeached Tramp DID give Putin Crimea when he told leaders at a G7 summit dinner that Crimea is Russian because its people speak Russian.
How could he kiss Putin's ass while Impeached Tramp had his head permanently up it?????
 
You are defending Impeached Tramp calling Americans "Human scum."
He is calling politicians that. Quit lying, but Hillary did call her fellow Americans deplorables. See I think Lindsay Graham is scum, because he is.
Impeached Tramp is a politician, so he is calling himself the scum he is.
Got to go through the Senate before you can gloat about impeachment.
Where exactly in the Constitution does it say that?
If Pelosi sits on it, the Senate can void it.
Again, where exactly does the Constitution say that?????
 
Let's see, your guy wanted Putin to wait till after the election. So he could kiss his ass better. Your guy?
Nobody kisses Putin's ass more and better than Impeached Tramp!
Please tell us how? I mean it's not like he gave Putin Crimea.
Impeached Tramp DID give Putin Crimea when he told leaders at a G7 summit dinner that Crimea is Russian because its people speak Russian.

When a reporter approached Trump during a morning event and asked him about the cold-blooded murderer President Putin?"

Trump responded: "He is a great guy. I think we had a really good meeting. I think he is a good person, we started discussing trade. I think we should have trade between Russia and USA, two great countries. We had a great meeting yesterday. He is a terrific person. Thank you very much."
You man child Obama gave Putin Crimea. Oh and he kissed Putin's ass also.
A presidential BULLSHIT to you.
Impeached Tramp DID give Putin Crimea when he told leaders at a G7 summit dinner that Crimea is Russian because its people speak Russian.
How could he kiss Putin's ass while Impeached Tramp had his head permanently up it?????
Who was president when Putin took Crimea?
 

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