Trump Removed from Maine Primary Ballot

[BlindBoo]

Funny you guys are junior Nazis now.

Ever verify Steele?? Nope. Your side are a Cancer on this nation.

Funny you think Law and Order is Nazism, and lawlessness, unconstitutional demands, big lies, and violent intimidation is normal political discourse and mechanism.

Did Clinton foment an attempt to overturn Trumpybears victory in 2016 based on the Steele document?

You side is stupid.

 

[Independent thinker]

It's snowballing. There will be more states disqualifying him. It's also a kick in the butt at SCOTUS, telling them they can't slow-walk this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/28/maine-trump-primary-ballot/?itid=hp_alert

Maine barred Donald Trump from the primary ballot Thursday, making it the second state in the country to block the former president from running again under a part of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office.

The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) is sure to be appealed. The Colorado Supreme Court last week found Trump could not appear on the ballot in that state, and the Colorado Republican Party has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. The nation’s high court could resolve for all states whether Trump can run again.

I agree. It is snowballing against Democrats, which is why Trump keeps on rising in the polls and is either tied or leading in every single swing state. Care to make any bets as to whether these Democrat abuses of power will stand after the Supreme Court rules on it?

 

[Nostra]

The SOS is always in charge of who gets on the ballot.

How can you not know these things?

Can you back that up?

 

[marvin martian]

It's snowballing. There will be more states disqualifying him. It's also a kick in the butt at SCOTUS, telling them they can't slow-walk this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/28/maine-trump-primary-ballot/?itid=hp_alert

Maine barred Donald Trump from the primary ballot Thursday, making it the second state in the country to block the former president from running again under a part of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office.

The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) is sure to be appealed. The Colorado Supreme Court last week found Trump could not appear on the ballot in that state, and the Colorado Republican Party has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. The nation’s high court could resolve for all states whether Trump can run again.

You're going to look even dumber than usual when SCOTUS smacks all you little Hitlers down. Probably 9-0.

 

[Moonglow]

The SOS is always in charge of who gets on the ballot.

How can you not know these things?

The secretary of state is a state-level position in 47 of the 50 states. The position does not exist in Alaska, Hawaii and Utah. In Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Virginia, the office is called the secretary of the commonwealth and differs only in name. The voters directly elect the secretary of state in 35 states. In the other 12, the secretary is appointed by either the governor or the state legislature.

The position's duties are generally administrative, and no two states have identical responsibilities delegated to the secretary of state. Many are tasked with keeping state records, from registering businesses to recording the official acts of the governor. The officeholder also often serves as the chief election official in their state, administering state elections and maintaining official election results. The commissioning and regulation of notaries public, keeping of the official state seal, and certification of official documents all typically fall under the purview of the secretary of state.

Secretary of State (state executive office)

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[marvin martian]

It's snowballing. There will be more states disqualifying him. It's also a kick in the butt at SCOTUS, telling them they can't slow-walk this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/28/maine-trump-primary-ballot/?itid=hp_alert

Maine barred Donald Trump from the primary ballot Thursday, making it the second state in the country to block the former president from running again under a part of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office.

The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) is sure to be appealed. The Colorado Supreme Court last week found Trump could not appear on the ballot in that state, and the Colorado Republican Party has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. The nation’s high court could resolve for all states whether Trump can run again.

Here's a tweet from the Nazi in Maine who just disenfranchised at least half the voters in the state. Note the incredibly ironic hashtag...

 

[Nostra]

The secretary of state is a state-level position in 47 of the 50 states. The position does not exist in Alaska, Hawaii and Utah. In Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Virginia, the office is called the secretary of the commonwealth and differs only in name. The voters directly elect the secretary of state in 35 states. In the other 12, the secretary is appointed by either the governor or the state legislature.

The position's duties are generally administrative, and no two states have identical responsibilities delegated to the secretary of state. Many are tasked with keeping state records, from registering businesses to recording the official acts of the governor. The officeholder also often serves as the chief election official in their state, administering state elections and maintaining official election results. The commissioning and regulation of notaries public, keeping of the official state seal, and certification of official documents all typically fall under the purview of the secretary of state.

Secretary of State (state executive office)

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

I don‘t see “unilateral disenfranchisement “ in those duties.

 

[marvin martian]

Here's a tweet from the Nazi in Maine who just disenfranchised at least half the voters in the state. Note the incredibly ironic hashtag...

However much you hate the Nazis who are disenfranchising half the country, it's not enough.

 

[Moonglow]

I don‘t see “unilateral disenfranchisement “ in those duties.

That's because you didn't write the description, get a job.

 

[Billiejeens]

Not just a Democrat, an anti Trump flaming liberal progressive.

And up-talker.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Correct, she had to follow the election laws of Maine, which she did.

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A state cannot pass valid laws that allows state officers to unilaterally revoke the voting franchise.

 

[22lcidw]

Using a rule used and created by Republicans.

I do not know the rule, however this woman is not a Democrat. When we argue constitution in other ways near all other's called Democrats are not. They are Progressive Socialists supporting silent revolution. Hence the endless Democracy rants as everyone voting thinks its freedom. It is not. And skanks like this will hide if she ever has to prove herself for survival. Many Progs are so insulated as they never know what a real threat is. She represents the harbinger of dictatorship.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The Democrat party is out of control. No charges, no crime, no conviction.

One Leftist decides to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/politics/trump-maine-14th-amendment-ballot/index.html

Secretary of State actually.

Having said that, absent an actual conviction for a criminal charge of such, I am not personally comfortable with this, nor do I believe SCOTUS will be.

 

[Richard-H]

The Democrat party is out of control. No charges, no crime, no conviction.

One Leftist decides to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/politics/trump-maine-14th-amendment-ballot/index.html

Aren't you happy that we live in a Republic and not a Democracy!

Does the U.S. Constitution suddenly mean nothing to you?

Yup, the intention of the 14th amendment Sec. 3 was to override Democracy, just in case a significant amount of voters supported a fascist turd or other such insurrectionist scum.

 

[Darkwind]

Now you know what a Dem dominated country would be like, mob rule.

Worse than mob rule.

Remind yourself of the millions who died under Mao.

The Democrats have gone full Authoritarian.

 

[BlindBoo]

The Democrat party is out of control. No charges, no crime, no conviction.

One Leftist decides to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/politics/trump-maine-14th-amendment-ballot/index.html

You realize that she is bound by law to hold a hearing on all challenges submitted to the office, right?

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

‘As an initial matter, Mr. Trump's objections hinge largely on rules of evidence that do not ‘govern this proceeding. The fact that a report includes hearsay, contains irrelevant facts, or lacks foundation does not automatically render it inadmissible under the APA. Rather, the central question is whether, under Section 9057(2), it s the type of evidence on which reasonable persons. are accustomed to rely in serious affairs. I rule that that the January 6 Report meets this standard.

Under the Federal Rules of Evidence, government investigative reports, including reports of Congress, are presumed admissible, with the party challenging admissibility bearing the burden of showing the report is untrustworthy. See Beech AircraftCorp. v. Rainey, 488 U.S. 153, 167 (1988); Barry v. Trustees of Intl Ass'n Full-Time Salaried Officers & Emps. ofOuiside Loc. Unions & Dist. Counsel's (Iron Workers) Pension Plan, 467 F. Supp. 2d 91, 96 (D.D.C. 2006).

Trustworthiness is assessed according to a non-exhaustive list of four factors: “(1) the timeliness of the investigation; (2) the special ski or expertise of the investigating official; (3) whether a hearing was held and the level at which it was conducted; and (4) possible motivation problems.” Barry, 467 F. Supp. 2d at 97; see also Beech Aircraft, 488 U.S. at 167n.11. Similarly, in Maine, “factual findings from a legally 8p. 9authorized investigation” are admissible under the Maine Rules of Evidence unless “sources of information or other circumstances indicate lack of trustworthiness. See Me. R. Evid. 803(8)(a).

I am not bound by either the federal or Maine rules of evidence because this is an APA proceeding. However, the four factors outlined above provide a useful framework for assessing the trustworthiness of the January 6 Report. The first three factors plainly counsel in favor of admissibility. Mr. Trump's objections focus primarily on the fourth factor, namely the motivation of the authors. But all Congressional reports are to some degree political, and many of the facts contained in the Report are corroborated by other documentary and video evidence in the record. 1 accordingly see no reason to exclude the January 6 Report in its entirety under § MRS. §9057(2). That said, Mr. Trump's concerns are valid insofar as the Report reflects a curated view of the evidence and contains characterizations of that evidence. These limitations influence the weight that I assign to the Report.

 

[Moonglow]

I do not know the rule, however this woman is not a Democrat. When we argue constitution in other ways near all other's called Democrats are not. They are Progressive Socialists supporting silent revolution. Hence the endless Democracy rants as everyone voting thinks its freedom. It is not. And skanks like this will hide if she ever has to prove herself for survival. Many Progs are so insulated as they never know what a real threat is. She represents the harbinger of dictatorship.

Hardly since the rule has never had to be invoked until a big, fat, orange unethical megalomaniac made them use it...

 

[Richard-H]

I do not know the rule, however this woman is not a Democrat. When we argue constitution in other ways near all other's called Democrats are not. They are Progressive Socialists supporting silent revolution. Hence the endless Democracy rants as everyone voting thinks its freedom. It is not. And skanks like this will hide if she ever has to prove herself for survival. Many Progs are so insulated as they never know what a real threat is. She represents the harbinger of dictatorship.

Yes, except:

Amendment 14 Sec. 3 of the U.S. Constitution!

 

[justoffal]

I'm sure you think you're making some point.

Point is pretty obvious

 

[Darkwind]

The SOS is always in charge of who gets on the ballot.

How can you not know these things?

The SOS is in charge of setting election laws. Not given the power to negate due process.

The 14th Amendment's clauses (plural) make it clear that the entire Amendment cannot be used to deprived any citizen of due process.